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Feb 18 12:35:25 <ndec> ogra: hi! any news regarding the alsa upgrade in the archive?
Feb 18 12:35:43 <ndec> persia: ^^^ you might be interested too
Feb 18 12:58:29 <ogra> ndec, i havent heard from TheMuso yet buut pinged him
Feb 18 13:21:17 * XorA|gone dances
Feb 18 13:23:35 * ogra shades his eyes
Feb 18 13:26:22 <apachelogger> GrueMaster, NCommander, persia: building phonon with gcc 4.4 and -no-pch seems to fix the segfault there ... so I guess we need a fixed gcc 4.5 or the better part of Qt based libs will have to get that workaround :/
Feb 18 13:27:14 <apachelogger> actually I have semi-random segfaults now, so clearly nothing in phonon ^^
Feb 18 13:27:19 <ogra> apachelogger, talk to the toolchain guys in #linaro
Feb 18 13:27:36 <ogra> they will be intrested in debugging data to track down and fix the compiler issue
Feb 18 13:29:13 <ogra> they solved our last issue within two days
Feb 18 13:29:31 <ogra> (though it took two weeks to get them the right data and actually prove its gcc)
Feb 18 13:29:57 <apachelogger> oh
Feb 18 13:30:02 <apachelogger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/705689/comments/30
Feb 18 13:30:07 <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 705689 in gcc-4.5 "Qt applications crash with segfault error on armel when Qt is built with gcc 4.5 on natty" [High,Confirmed]
Feb 18 13:30:09 <apachelogger> seems they have a patch already
Feb 18 13:30:20 <ogra> yes
Feb 18 13:30:28 <ogra> i dont think gcc was uploaded since
Feb 18 13:30:44 <ogra> ask linaro if they ahve a testbuild in a ppa or so
Feb 18 13:50:28 <kenws> Hi there, Does anyone know where to find the ddebs for natty?
Feb 18 13:51:00 <kenws> The following apt.sources line doesn't seem to work:
Feb 18 13:51:00 <kenws> deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty main restricted universe multiverse
Feb 18 14:01:16 <ogra> kenws, well, it should looking at http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/ there are armel versions
Feb 18 14:02:38 <kenws> ogra: thanks, do you know how the corresponding apt.sources line would look like?
Feb 18 14:02:42 <kenws> brb
Feb 18 14:04:03 <ogra> the above should technically work
Feb 18 14:13:34 <ogra> kenws, did you run apt-get update after adding the line ?
Feb 18 14:13:53 <ogra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash ha smore details
Feb 18 14:15:32 <ogra> you might need to add the key etc
Feb 18 15:33:48 <Neko> http://blog.efikamx.info/2011/02/one-kernel-to-rule-them-all.html Efika MX Smartbook devs might want to build a shiny new kernel from here :)
Feb 18 15:55:03 <kenws> ogra: hm, this exactly what I'm using in my sources list
Feb 18 15:55:16 <ogra> kenws, and you did apt-get update
Feb 18 15:55:27 <ogra> kenws, and also impotred the gpg key
Feb 18 15:55:28 <kenws> ogra: yes
Feb 18 15:55:31 <kenws> also yes
Feb 18 15:55:32 <kenws> http://pastie.org/1579164
Feb 18 15:55:36 <kenws> http://pastie.org/1579161
Feb 18 15:55:54 <ogra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
Feb 18 15:56:16 <kenws> ogra: yeah, and it matches what I have or am I blind? : )
Feb 18 15:57:33 <ogra> how do you try to get a ddeb ?
Feb 18 15:57:48 <ogra> you need a special invocation of apt for that
Feb 18 15:58:01 <ogra> its documented on the page too
Feb 18 16:01:08 <ogra> (point 6)
Feb 18 16:01:18 <kenws> ogra: but the apt-get update fails to fetch the Packages.gz that is before the user installs any ddebs
Feb 18 16:01:30 <ogra> weird
Feb 18 16:02:08 <ogra> http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/natty/main/binary-armel/
Feb 18 16:02:13 <ogra> Packages.gz is there
Feb 18 16:03:09 <kenws> yep, but what about natty-updates, natty-security and natty-proposed?
Feb 18 16:03:41 <ogra> no security updates in the dev release ;)
Feb 18 16:03:54 <ogra> nore -updates or -proposed test archives
Feb 18 16:03:55 <kenws> point 2 of that wiki page seems to indicate that they shoul be there
Feb 18 16:04:11 <ogra> for a release they are
Feb 18 16:04:20 <ogra> but natty isnt released yet
Feb 18 16:04:21 <kenws> ok, i see
Feb 18 16:04:43 <kenws> ogra: thanks for your patience : )
Feb 18 16:04:52 <ogra> np :)
Feb 18 16:12:09 <NCommander> apachelogger: *groan* :-(
Feb 18 16:14:31 <ogra> Bug 721121
Feb 18 16:14:31 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 721121 in humanity-icon-theme "Icon in Launcher should be home folder icon" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721121
Feb 18 16:14:41 <ogra> heh
Feb 18 16:17:17 <GrueMaster> You should see the comments.
Feb 18 16:19:02 <apachelogger> NCommander: only that bug is keeping us from having an almost rocking kubuntu mobile :(
Feb 18 16:19:10 <apachelogger> kernel is close to inclusion too
Feb 18 16:22:37 <apachelogger> ScottK, mpoirier: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/sshot1.png
Feb 18 19:57:20 <Neko> https://bugs.launchpad.net/update-manager/%20bug/610820
Feb 18 19:57:24 <Neko> is anyone ever going to fix this?
Feb 18 19:58:30 <prpplague> Neko: that the full url?
Feb 18 19:58:46 <Neko> https://bugs.launchpad.net/update-manager/+bug/610820
Feb 18 19:58:47 <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 610820 in update-manager "Download size discrepancies" [Undecided,Confirmed]
Feb 18 19:59:29 <Neko> on ARM it says 704MB, 740MB, 74.0MB or some variation, it's so weird that it always has a 7 and a 4..
Feb 18 21:56:39 <Homefix> anyone here i can annoy?
Feb 18 21:57:14 <Homefix> Hello? anyone
Feb 18 21:57:41 <Homefix> ogra:
Feb 18 21:58:07 <Homefix> rbelem:
Feb 18 22:08:51 <rcn-ee_at_work> Homefix, maybe you should state your question, and if it interest's someone they might answer.. ..;)
Feb 18 22:20:52 <Homefix> sorry babysitting had a mess......
Feb 18 22:21:27 <Homefix> I am missing var/run/dbus in my chroot using arm lucid build
Feb 18 22:21:37 <Homefix> im soory..........
Feb 18 22:21:46 <Homefix> im missing.....
Feb 18 22:22:15 <Homefix> pid system_bus_socket normal?
Feb 18 22:27:00 <Homefix> i must be loosing my mind i am running a ubuntu arm img lucid on my htc evo my article:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932754
Feb 18 22:27:56 <Homefix> i am able to windows share thru hamachi I thought upstart does not function in that kind ov enviroment?
Feb 18 22:28:37 <Homefix> Nautilus does not share, it did with karmic,
Feb 18 22:30:17 <Homefix> sksudo nautilus brings up : (nautilus 1010) : WARNING**: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: no such file?
Feb 18 22:30:19 <Homefix> Help
Feb 18 22:32:35 <rcn-ee_at_work> Homefix, i'd bug the guy who wrote the article.. the people on this list are usually running boards where we have access to everything.. bootloader -> kernel -> rootfs..
Feb 18 22:32:48 <Homefix> i wrote it
Feb 18 22:33:28 <rcn-ee_at_work> ah fun.. so which kernel do you have on there?  lucid really needs 2.6.32+ ?
Feb 18 22:33:55 <Homefix> of corse the kernel is mising bits and peices
Feb 18 22:34:21 <Homefix> maybe it might be another issue u could help me with
Feb 18 22:34:32 <Homefix> other than the kernel
Feb 18 22:35:52 <rcn-ee_at_work> not likely, my chroot's work just fine, using debian squeeze as a base, chroots for (karmic/lucid/maverick/natty)
Feb 18 22:38:31 <Homefix> im just looking for a kind help im not as intellegent as most of u people. thats all maybe ill get lucky and find a solution, what have i got to loose besides time. and maybe gain a friend:)
Feb 18 22:40:06 <rcn-ee_at_work> google shows with that error, try restarting dbus in your chroot..
Feb 18 22:40:15 <Homefix> i would be satisfied with karmic ( no uppstart to mess things up in the chroot) but the programs stop opening after some time.
Feb 18 22:42:29 <rcn-ee_at_work> Homefix, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/441100 workaround seems promising
Feb 18 22:42:30 <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 441100 in dbus "within chroot, can fail to reload daemon configuration if not running (detects dbus daemon outside of chroot)" [Medium,Triaged]
Feb 18 22:43:16 <Homefix> I am unable to connect to upstart
Feb 18 22:43:47 <Homefix> I now but i dont quite understand somthing.................
Feb 18 22:45:02 <Homefix> I beg you would this workaround apply to this please look:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10584098#post10584098
Feb 18 22:45:45 <Homefix> i dont have a dbus outside the chroot right?
Feb 18 22:46:16 <Homefix> so im stuck with karmic?
Feb 18 22:47:20 <Homefix> Im using an android kernel
Feb 18 22:47:37 <Homefix> arm7
Feb 18 22:48:15 <rcn-ee_at_work> it would seem so..  if you can get the kernel source, i've heard htc has that.. enable CONFIG_DEVTMPFS with atleast 2.6.32 should get you closer..
Feb 18 22:48:27 <Homefix> yaaaaaaaaaa
Feb 18 22:48:41 <Homefix> thanks for somewere to go ILOVEYOU
Feb 18 22:49:28 <Homefix> like i said u amaze me with your knowledge
Feb 18 22:49:36 <Homefix> and thank u
Feb 18 22:55:02 <Homefix> rcn: one more thing please explain what is the "atleast 2.6.32" it cant mean ver.
Feb 18 22:57:47 <rcn-ee_at_work> in lucid, that config was manadority and it was enable with 2.6.32
Feb 18 22:59:42 <rcn-ee_at_work> i'm not sure if it matters for the os underneath the chroot.....
Feb 18 22:59:59 <Homefix> rcn: how woul i enable in the kernel "CONFIG_DEVTMPFS 2.6.32" on a line, then compile ?
Feb 18 23:00:16 <Homefix> add that is
Feb 18 23:00:47 <rcn-ee_at_work> it's a .config option.. have you built kernel's before?
Feb 18 23:01:55 <Homefix> well i enabeled loop_devices im the kernel i am using i have a lot to learn
Feb 18 23:02:27 <Homefix> I will post over at xda to get help with this
Feb 18 23:06:25 <pmathews> <rcn-ee_at_work> manadority?
Feb 18 23:23:38 <xerebz> i'm trying to compile opencv 2.2 on a beagleboard xm but i get this: http://pastebin.com/X3H4SsDc
Feb 18 23:44:17 <rcn-ee> pmathews, try booting lucid with out it.. i belive it's udev dependicy..
Feb 18 23:58:26 <pmathews> <rcn-ee> define  manadority
Feb 18 23:59:05 <rcn-ee> oh it's been awhile.. but during lucid's development cycle, you couldn't successfully mount lucid on a 2.6.32 kernel with out..
Feb 18 23:59:42 <pmathews> man  manadority
Feb 18 23:59:42 <pmathews> No manual entry for manadority
Feb 18 23:59:47 <rcn-ee> this was on the beagle at the time..
Feb 19 00:00:40 <rcn-ee> "required"
Feb 19 00:01:15 <pmathews> no luck with " find / -name manadority -maxdepth 6" either
Feb 19 00:02:01 <pmathews> or "which manadority"
Feb 19 00:02:15 <rcn-ee> bug: 510130 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-January/008518.html
Feb 19 00:02:46 <rcn-ee> sillybot seems slow... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/mountall/+bug/510130
Feb 19 00:02:47 <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 510130 in linux-ec2 "ec2 instance fails to boot if registered without ramdisk" [High,Fix released]
Feb 19 00:06:56 <pmathews> got it - you meant mandatory
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