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Mar 17 13:58:32 <vin> hi
Mar 17 13:58:37 <vin> the installation broke down
Mar 17 13:58:43 <vin> how can I get into the TTY
Mar 17 13:58:50 <vin> I have no default username/password
Mar 17 14:44:19 <lil_pete> vin: you can mount the filesystem on another linux machine, chroot into it and do $passwd <username>
Mar 17 14:44:44 <lil_pete> you can do even more stuff using qemu: http://wiki.debian.org/QemuUserEmulation
Mar 17 15:13:03 <lil_pete> hey guys can somebody tell me how to install cross-compiled modules?  i cant use make install... can i? :-/
Mar 17 15:13:14 <lil_pete> (im talking about non-kernel modules)
Mar 17 15:13:35 <lil_pete> ((meaning its a driver that isnt included in the kernel)) :D
Mar 17 16:04:58 <ogra_> GrueMaster, how does your panel crash ?
Mar 17 16:05:03 <ogra_> works fine for me
Mar 17 16:05:34 <GrueMaster> Not sure of the nature of it yet, but it dies & respawns continuously atm.
Mar 17 16:06:06 <GrueMaster> could be the resolution.
Mar 17 16:06:30 <ogra_> ah, yeah, i remember something that requires 800px with
Mar 17 16:06:35 <ogra_> *width
Mar 17 16:06:59 <ogra_> you shouldnt see gnome-panel at all though
Mar 17 16:07:13 <ogra_> did you explicitly pick gnome-session at gdm ?
Mar 17 16:07:37 <GrueMaster> Well, whatever is generating the top panel is respawning.
Mar 17 16:07:56 <ogra_> thats unity-2d-panel
Mar 17 16:08:09 <ogra_> (Qt app)
Mar 17 16:08:10 <GrueMaster> Tomato tomato.
Mar 17 16:16:06 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: issue we had was with gnome-panel
Mar 17 16:16:14 <rsalveti> and not unity-2d-panel, so it's probably a different bug this time
Mar 17 16:16:30 <GrueMaster> Yea I know.  Still, same visual effect.
Mar 17 16:17:24 <ogra_> does it go away if you use a higher res ?
Mar 17 16:17:43 <GrueMaster> Don't know.  Just rebooting with the fix now.
Mar 17 16:17:55 <GrueMaster> nope.
Mar 17 16:19:31 <GrueMaster> Hmmm.  Why is there a /home/buildd dir?
Mar 17 16:20:49 <ogra_> that shouldnt be there
Mar 17 16:20:53 * rsalveti lunch
Mar 17 16:21:39 <GrueMaster> It's on the image I downloaded.  Very odd.
Mar 17 16:21:53 <ogra_> i see it here too
Mar 17 16:21:55 <GrueMaster> Thought it might have been a glitch in the SD.
Mar 17 16:21:59 <GrueMaster> ok
Mar 17 16:22:25 * ogra_ just copies a loop mounted natty netbook into the ac100 
Mar 17 16:23:01 <ogra_> there is only the homedir though, no user
Mar 17 16:27:29 <ogra_> root@isis:/# dpkg -S /home/buildd
Mar 17 16:27:29 <ogra_> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /home/buildd
Mar 17 16:27:43 <ogra_> doesnt come from a package (would have surprised me)
Mar 17 16:29:51 <ogra_> not in any postinst either
Mar 17 16:34:48 <GrueMaster> ls
Mar 17 16:34:55 <GrueMaster> gah
Mar 17 16:35:58 <GrueMaster> I think I know why the bug reports are broken.  There is a chromium-browser bug that the script is failing on.
Mar 17 16:36:32 <ogra_> oh?
Mar 17 16:36:37 <ogra_> how can that be
Mar 17 16:41:36 <GrueMaster> Hmm.  Not related.  Working with Brian now.
Mar 17 17:47:20 <GrueMaster> The unity-2d-panel issue appears to be sound related (figures).
Mar 17 17:49:04 <GrueMaster> dmesg has a long list of "asoc: no valid backend routes for PCM:  SDP4430 Media" and .xsession-errors shows libsoundmenu.so is respawning.
Mar 17 19:57:09 <GrueMaster> Interesting.  This issue is omap4 only (beaglexm works fine).
Mar 17 19:59:37 <rsalveti> dual core?
Mar 17 20:00:56 <janimo> which issue?
Mar 17 20:03:43 <GrueMaster> janimo: The libsoundmenu respawn issue.  And I am not sure yet if it is dual core related.  That is my next step, although I doubt it.
Mar 17 20:04:08 <janimo> ah, I am not uptodate with U-2d related bugs
Mar 17 20:04:30 <janimo> I think I should test that too again
Mar 17 20:04:38 <GrueMaster> This is new as of today's image.
Mar 17 20:04:45 <janimo> I found both compiz an u-2d frustrating to use on x86
Mar 17 20:04:52 <janimo> so did not even tried to use it on arm
Mar 17 20:04:56 <GrueMaster> And I didn't see it yesterday when updating an older image.
Mar 17 20:05:33 <janimo> GrueMaster, there were again libindicator related updates since yesterday, is the soundmenu among them?
Mar 17 20:06:43 <GrueMaster> Might be.  Let me work to dig deeper for a bit.
Mar 17 20:06:49 <GrueMaster> Need food atm.
Mar 17 22:05:40 <GrueMaster> After much digging (mainly in the dark), it appears that the schema from indicator-sound is not being properly registered.
Mar 17 22:08:15 <ogra_> GrueMaster, i claimed the flash-kernel doesnt respect double dash notiation bug back
Mar 17 22:08:39 <ogra_> will work on that during the flash-kernel reworking
Mar 17 22:08:45 <GrueMaster> ok.  Are you actually going to fix it?  It has been there since karmic.
Mar 17 22:08:51 <GrueMaster> ok
Mar 17 22:10:40 <ogra_> its a pretty big task and bound to architectural design changes for flash-kernel-installer
Mar 17 22:11:05 <ogra_> i always planned to work on it ... currently we dont use live or d-i images so its not pressing
Mar 17 22:12:17 <GrueMaster> I'm just trying to whittle down open bugs.
Mar 17 22:13:14 <GrueMaster> btw:  I am making some progress on the unity-2d-panel respawn.  It so far appears to be indicator-sound update.
Mar 17 22:13:28 <GrueMaster> I'm getting ready to backrev and see if it still fails.
Mar 17 22:13:54 <GrueMaster> It is not smp related, but it is omap4 specific (runs fine on beaglexm).
Mar 17 22:16:45 <ogra_> try linking the binary of indicator-sound to /bin/true ;)
Mar 17 22:17:06 <ogra_> runs fine here too
Mar 17 22:17:15 <ogra_> even with broken sound in the kernel
Mar 17 22:18:24 <GrueMaster> Looks like there is a new version as of 3 hours ago.  Will try it first.
Mar 17 22:19:11 <GrueMaster> I have a feeling something broke in the newer releases for the postinst, as upgrading from 20110311 works fine.
Mar 17 22:19:45 <ogra_> fun
Mar 17 22:20:09 <ogra_> its probably the buildd user that broke it :P
Mar 17 22:20:20 <GrueMaster> heh
Mar 17 22:20:24 * ogra_ really has no clue where that could come from
Mar 17 22:21:16 <GrueMaster> Simple.  A botched update to the posinst script or a bad tweak to the schema.xml file.  The old settings would be still valid.
Mar 17 22:21:36 <ogra_> i was referring to /home/buildd
Mar 17 22:22:27 <GrueMaster> Oh, that.
Mar 17 22:23:37 <GrueMaster> Hmm.  Looks like all of the com.canonical.indicator.* schemas may be hosed.  Updating indicator-sound got passed it's issue, now datetime failes.
Mar 17 22:23:52 <GrueMaster> (as does my typing)
Mar 17 22:24:09 <ogra_> weird
Mar 17 22:24:27 <ogra_> i'm using an omap3 image here, freshly installed on the ac100
Mar 17 22:24:46 <ogra_> (with rolled back libc but no other modifications)
Mar 17 22:25:02 <ogra_> apart from the g-s-d breakage all seems to be fine
Mar 17 22:25:55 <GrueMaster> I can't really consider running on a non-supported system with a non-supported image completely valid.  Besides, it also works fine on my beaglexm
Mar 17 22:26:18 <ogra_> pfft
Mar 17 22:26:25 <ogra_> userspace is always the same
Mar 17 22:26:51 <GrueMaster> There can always be subtle hardware differences.
Mar 17 22:26:52 <ogra_> as long as you have all kernel options it should be fine
Mar 17 22:27:02 <ogra_> which we need to cover :)
Mar 17 22:27:22 <GrueMaster> Not up to us to validate hardware.
Mar 17 22:27:36 <GrueMaster> yet
Mar 17 22:27:39 <ogra_> up to us to make sure userspace runs on all v7 HW
Mar 17 22:27:57 <ogra_> which is one of the reasons to not hard build with NEON enabled
Mar 17 22:28:13 <GrueMaster> Then give me more v7 systems to test on.  Otherwise I can't comment on failures for which I have no hardware.
Mar 17 22:28:27 <ogra_> imho we all should have ac100s and efikas
Mar 17 22:28:48 <GrueMaster> Well, that I'll definitely agree to.  :D
Mar 17 22:28:54 <ogra_> just to be able to validate
Mar 17 22:29:33 <ogra_> i'm considering buying a second one ... i just found out the 3G version is available for 199€ now
Mar 17 22:30:11 <ogra_> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66592855/20110317-ubiquity-sarcasm.png
Mar 17 22:30:11 <GrueMaster> Not bad.  Wish I had the $$$ to spend.
Mar 17 22:30:16 * ogra_ grins
Mar 18 00:32:14 <ogra> GrueMaster, any idea why florence isnt in the archive ? the source was accepted and the binaries are lintian clean, so i dont get why they didnt make it into the archive
Mar 18 00:32:24 <ogra> (your mail indicates you know more)
Mar 18 02:18:50 <Xase> Hi, I had a couple of questions.
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