**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 21 02:59:57 2011
Mar 21 08:28:40 <bkero> persia: ping
Mar 21 08:50:25 <hrw> morning
Mar 21 13:29:47 <dmart>  
Mar 21 14:59:38 <ogra> grr
Mar 21 15:05:23 <lil_pete> hey guys does anybody have problems with usb-hotplugging at a toshiba tegra-platform? maybe even a solution to problems relatet to that? :)
Mar 21 15:05:37 <ogra> works fine on my ac100
Mar 21 15:06:11 <lil_pete> well i got a folio100, pretty much the same system, but only one usb port
Mar 21 15:06:43 <lil_pete> could you pastebin your dmesg and gzip -dc /proc/config.gz please?
Mar 21 15:07:32 <ogra> http://ac100.gudinna.com/kernel/ has the config
Mar 21 15:09:00 <ogra> note that the folio and ac100 kernels are massively different (they arent cross functional) so you can just blindly apply this config to a folio kernel
Mar 21 15:09:46 <lil_pete> ooohhh... dyou know about any details?
Mar 21 15:10:05 <lil_pete> 'coz i thought since usb should be somewhere on the tegra-chip it _should_ be the same config in both kernels?
Mar 21 15:10:07 <ogra> nope, ask in #ac100, i think phh did some tests
Mar 21 15:10:17 <lil_pete> didnt know that toshiba patched that much
Mar 21 15:10:25 <ogra> oh, related to usb they might be the same
Mar 21 15:10:48 <lil_pete> well i _thought_ so, but thats just blind assumptions, i never touched an ac100
Mar 21 15:10:51 <ogra> but that doesnt make the folio kernel bootable on an ac100 ;)
Mar 21 15:10:53 <lil_pete> ill ask in ac100
Mar 21 15:11:22 <lil_pete> well if i wanted to i couldnt, i have a custom kernel since i need some wicked custom drivers, but as i said... i thought that usb-stuff should run out of the box
Mar 21 15:11:49 <ogra> it does as long as your kernel properly provides everything udev expects
Mar 21 15:11:50 <lil_pete> im wondering if its some energy saving issue or something i messed up in the config... dunno.
Mar 21 15:12:49 <lil_pete> hehe thats the funny thing, if @ boot i plug in a usb-hub, i can plug/unplug everything i want to that hub. if i unplug the hub, its like usb is dead, nothing in dmesg at all. its... weird. :)
Mar 21 17:01:47 <ppisati> guys, in maverick to support a beagle board/xm, which kernel branch did you use? master? linaro? ti-omap? or ti-omap4?
Mar 21 17:01:52 <ppisati> during boot, my Xm says:
Mar 21 17:01:55 <ppisati> [    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.35-22-omap (buildd@gourd) (gcc version 4.4.5 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.4-14ubuntu4) ) #33-Ubuntu Mon Sep 20 03:17:30 UTC 2010 (Ubuntu 2.6.35-22.33-omap 2.6.35.4)
Mar 21 17:02:00 <ppisati> so i guess it's linaro, right?
Mar 21 18:07:54 <lool> ppisati: This only says which compiler was used
Mar 21 18:08:02 <lool> ppisati: In this case, one with the Linaro patchset applied
Mar 21 18:14:10 <ogra> ppisati, for omap3 we use mainline
Mar 21 18:17:16 <ogra> omap4 is a special breed from mainline, TI patches and linaro patches
Mar 21 22:46:30 <Xase> I'm interested in learning me some ARM and running Ubuntu on "a device similar to a beagle board?"
Mar 21 22:48:40 <Xase> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Demo_Image << I'm assuming trying this, and reading here will lead me in the right direction oh armites?
Mar 21 23:02:50 <GrueMaster> Do you already have a beagleboard?
Mar 21 23:05:30 <Xase_> GrueMaster: sorry my daughter pressed the sleep button.
Mar 21 23:05:42 <GrueMaster> Heh.
Mar 21 23:05:48 <Xase_> No, I don't however the Nook Color is really similar in processor and graphics processor.
Mar 21 23:06:07 <Xase_> I was wondering if the demo image would boot over SD or at least throw a kernel panic.
Mar 21 23:06:14 <GrueMaster> Similar in that it is arm based.  That's about it.
Mar 21 23:06:23 <Xase_> ... eh.
Mar 21 23:07:24 <GrueMaster> Slightly different processor than what is on the beagleboard.  In the arm world, the kernel needs to almost be specific to the system.
Mar 21 23:07:39 <Xase_> Well... so it'll at least throw a kernel panic?
Mar 21 23:08:02 <GrueMaster> We have people working to unify the code so we have one kernel, but it will take some time.
Mar 21 23:08:15 <Xase_> Well I was thinking of rebuilding the Cyangoenmod kernel from android with the extra requirements for running a GNU/Linux distro
Mar 21 23:08:16 <Xase_> So I technically have a kernel already =/
Mar 21 23:08:25 <GrueMaster> I'm not sure what it would do.
Mar 21 23:08:46 <Xase_> Well it would obviously needs to be configured to use the right display and all that nonsense.
Mar 21 23:08:48 <GrueMaster> You should google to see if someone has already hacked the nook.
Mar 21 23:08:55 <Xase_> Glad to finally hear some info form here.
Mar 21 23:09:02 <GrueMaster> There is more to it than just the kernel.
Mar 21 23:09:03 <Xase_> Well by hacked do you mean rooted?
Mar 21 23:09:15 <Xase_> I have a custom kernel on mine running already =/
Mar 21 23:09:22 <GrueMaster> Yes, and has a link to a working base image.
Mar 21 23:09:34 <Xase_> But it's still android... I wanted to step beyond that.
Mar 21 23:09:49 <Xase_> Do you think my idea is plausible however? at least trying to get it to work?
Mar 21 23:10:12 <Xase_> Like if I stuck at it, I could get it working near 100% capacity?
Mar 21 23:10:41 <GrueMaster> Personally, I only get to work on specific hardware that is officially supported by the current release.  That limits me to beagleboard, beagleXM (same kernel for both now), and Panda (dual core).
Mar 21 23:10:59 <Xase_> Ah.
Mar 21 23:11:17 <Xase_> What processor is in the beaglebord?
Mar 21 23:11:30 <GrueMaster> It is very plausable to get it working.  Others have done similar work with the Viewsonic tablet and the Toshiba AC100 smartbook.
Mar 21 23:12:10 <GrueMaster> The beagleboard & XM are omap3, just slightly different configurations than the nook.
Mar 21 23:12:44 <GrueMaster> So the omap kernel from Ubuntu may work wit hsome slight tweaking (or it might just work).  I don't know.
Mar 21 23:13:11 <rsalveti> probably need the correct board file
Mar 21 23:13:20 <rsalveti> with proper platform devices and drivers
Mar 21 23:13:29 <Xase_> Hmm, I think I'll have a look at it and a talk with some associates who think I'm crazy.
Mar 21 23:13:35 <rsalveti> so I'd say that you probably need some additional patches to make it fully compatible with nook
Mar 21 23:13:37 <Xase_> I am all new to this
Mar 21 23:13:40 <GrueMaster> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10306407
Mar 21 23:13:48 <rsalveti> Xase_: what is your kernel version?
Mar 21 23:14:18 <Xase_> That is nonsense though, it's just running basically as a VM rsalveti
Mar 21 23:14:21 <Xase_> hold on I'll check
Mar 21 23:14:48 <Xase_> 2.6.32.28
Mar 21 23:14:59 <rsalveti> urgh
Mar 21 23:15:00 <rsalveti> old
Mar 21 23:15:10 <Xase_> Yeah.
Mar 21 23:15:26 <Xase_> I don't expect it to be easy, and I know it will take awhile, I was just curious as to how plausible it is.
Mar 21 23:16:06 <GrueMaster> Check the link I posted above.  It has a howto for Ubuntu.
Mar 21 23:16:27 <Xase_> ... yeah to run it inside of android though =/
Mar 21 23:16:47 <Xase_> Does that hold any relevance to my ideals in the long run.
Mar 21 23:17:54 <Xase_> .sa0z56'tgh 6\tb ]6\5
Mar 21 23:18:02 <Xase_> Sorry
Mar 21 23:18:06 <rsalveti> it's probably plausible
Mar 21 23:18:08 <Xase_> My daughter is amazingly computer loving.
Mar 21 23:18:24 <rsalveti> would be good to check what bootloader are you using
Mar 21 23:18:32 <rsalveti> if it's possible to load an initrd file
Mar 21 23:18:55 <rsalveti> then see if it's possible to port the specific patches to at least 2.6.35
Mar 21 23:19:05 <rsalveti> so you can safely use the maverick rootfs
Mar 21 23:19:16 <rsalveti> or 2.6.38 if you want to use natty
Mar 21 23:19:24 <Xase_> Alright, I'll do some more reading then :D
Mar 21 23:19:37 <Xase_> It uses uboot on nand
Mar 21 23:19:43 <rsalveti> cool
Mar 21 23:20:14 <Xase_> Well I'll be back, and I'll read some on the kernel while I'm out.
Mar 21 23:20:22 <rsalveti> alright
Mar 21 23:29:32 * rsalveti bbl
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 22 02:59:57 2011