**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 08 02:59:58 2011
Apr 08 06:51:34 <guerby> armin76, eheh : http://perfectlylogical.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/pandaboard-seeing-full-1gb/
Apr 08 06:51:43 <guerby> armin76, I didn't know the panda had 1GB ...
Apr 08 07:00:08 <rsalveti> guerby: it had, the problem wasn't being able to see it
Apr 08 07:00:19 <rsalveti> but we had instability issues with it
Apr 08 07:00:42 <rsalveti> seems to be gone with 38, but still need to test it more
Apr 08 07:00:55 <guerby> rsalveti, I still have to try the new kernel
Apr 08 07:01:10 <rsalveti> guerby: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/633227
Apr 08 07:01:23 <rsalveti> guerby: yeah, would be good to try
Apr 08 07:01:33 <rsalveti> you can use the minimal image natty's image
Apr 08 07:01:39 <rsalveti> just console by default
Apr 08 07:02:01 <rsalveti> guerby: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/daily-preinstalled/current/
Apr 08 07:02:18 <guerby> rsalveti, thx will try this afternoon
Apr 08 07:02:44 <rsalveti> cool
Apr 08 07:02:47 <guerby> rsalveti, do I have to upgrade other stuff (u-boot)?
Apr 08 07:03:04 <rsalveti> guerby: should be fine with this image
Apr 08 07:03:16 <rsalveti> you just need to update if you're upgrading your kernel from .35
Apr 08 07:04:24 <guerby> rsalveti, "update" what do you mean?
Apr 08 07:04:46 <rsalveti> guerby: I mean, upgrading x-loader and u-boot
Apr 08 07:05:19 <guerby> rsalveti, ok, do you have URL with up to date instructions for these?
Apr 08 07:05:47 <rsalveti> guerby: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x-loader
Apr 08 07:05:54 <rsalveti> guerby: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot-linaro
Apr 08 07:06:00 <rsalveti> grab the latest deb available for both
Apr 08 07:06:07 <rsalveti> extract and copy the MLO and u-boot.bin files
Apr 08 07:06:17 <rsalveti> put at your first sd card partition and you should be fine
Apr 08 07:06:40 <guerby> rsalveti, ok will try thx
Apr 08 07:08:15 <rsalveti> np
Apr 08 07:08:17 * rsalveti gone, will try to get some sleep, be back in 7
Apr 08 08:36:37 <hrw> ogra_: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/androidcentral/~3/lfr21_mPmTA/asus-releases-eee-pad-transformer-source-code - maybe will interest you as this is also for tegra2
Apr 08 08:39:50 <ogra_> hrw, thanks
Apr 08 08:51:22 * XorA|gone needs to find a tegra2 toy
Apr 08 08:52:48 <hrw> XorA|gone: compulab one looks nice but probably not on market yet
Apr 08 08:54:28 <XorA|gone> would prefer an EEE replacement
Apr 08 08:54:38 <XorA|gone> or even better squeeze one into existing eee case
Apr 08 08:55:54 <hrw> XorA|gone: eeepad transformer + keyboard dock?
Apr 08 09:00:42 <XorA|gone> hrw: I didnt like the look of it
Apr 08 09:01:05 <XorA|gone> hrw: and the fact the keyboard dock is priced as 1/2 the price of the tablet is a downer
Apr 08 09:01:11 <hrw> yep
Apr 08 09:12:13 <ppisati> did you try a maverick kernel on a natty fs?
Apr 08 09:12:15 <ppisati> omap4
Apr 08 09:14:52 <hrw> ppisati: what is wrong with natty kernel?
Apr 08 09:15:29 <ppisati> hrw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/690370
Apr 08 09:15:38 <ppisati> that is actually a duplicate of
Apr 08 09:15:44 <ppisati> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/746137
Apr 08 09:16:03 <ppisati> i thought the vm.min_free workaround "fixed" it
Apr 08 09:16:07 <ppisati> well, i was wrong
Apr 08 09:16:15 <ppisati> i reproduced it on a natty kernel
Apr 08 09:16:31 <ppisati> and now i want to go back and see it if i can reproduce it on maverick too
Apr 08 09:16:37 <ppisati> but i had a natty sd
Apr 08 09:16:43 <hrw> hrw@panda:~$ head /proc/meminfo
Apr 08 09:16:43 <hrw> MemTotal:         940072 kB
Apr 08 09:16:47 <ppisati> installed maverick kernel on it and puff...
Apr 08 09:17:16 <ogra_> puff ?
Apr 08 09:17:22 <ogra_> define puff :)
Apr 08 09:17:26 <hrw> smoke
Apr 08 09:17:31 <ppisati> Starting kernel ...
Apr 08 09:17:32 <ppisati> Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.
Apr 08 09:17:34 <ppisati> stuck here
Apr 08 09:17:49 <ppisati> hrw: i didnt' get your comment about meminfo
Apr 08 09:20:24 <ppisati> hrw: if you got all that memory, i guess you don't hit lp633227 anymore, right?
Apr 08 09:21:15 <hrw> I did lot of builds
Apr 08 09:21:36 <hrw> what hurts is fsck
Apr 08 09:21:36 <ppisati> cool
Apr 08 09:21:56 <hrw> I have 280GB /home and most of reboots fsck complains
Apr 08 09:22:04 <ppisati> ouch
Apr 08 09:22:09 <ppisati> that's not a good sign
Apr 08 09:22:16 <cooloney> ogra_: hey, did you try today's daily image? i tried to install from SD card with the image. after installation, it is in gdm login screen. but I haven't setup any user account
Apr 08 09:22:24 <cooloney> ogra_: so i failed to login the system
Apr 08 09:22:57 <hrw> MemTotal:         943112 kB
Apr 08 09:23:05 <hrw> fixed cmdline to get 3MB more
Apr 08 09:23:18 <ppisati> anyway, i'll reinstall a maverick image, try again on that and than chase this memory frag problem
Apr 08 09:23:26 <ppisati> hrw: 460 + 512?
Apr 08 09:23:32 <hrw> 463+512
Apr 08 09:23:43 <ppisati> i was always curious
Apr 08 09:23:49 <hrw> I had 460+512 before
Apr 08 09:23:50 <ppisati> how do we get that numbers?
Apr 08 09:23:53 <ppisati> i mean
Apr 08 09:24:19 <hrw> >463 is memory for dsp&iva chips
Apr 08 09:25:14 <ppisati> 0x80000000 + 463 + dsp&c = 0xFFFFFFF aka (0xA0000000 - 1)
Apr 08 09:25:19 <hrw> ppisati: sp you have problems when build gcc trunk?
Apr 08 09:25:27 <ppisati> s/463/463MB/
Apr 08 09:26:15 <ppisati> hrw: you mean 690370?
Apr 08 09:26:38 <ppisati> hrw: actually never had instabilities, but i can easily get the bracktrace about the nic driver
Apr 08 09:27:51 <ogra_> cooloney, yep, jasper is broken, i would like to build a new image but the desktop team uploaded unity and that hasnt buiilt yet so i cant roll images
Apr 08 09:28:13 <ogra_> cooloney, i hope to roll fixed images during the day
Apr 08 09:28:48 <ppisati> hrw: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/591172/
Apr 08 09:29:47 <cooloney> ogra_: got it, i'm testing the new kernel, so i might need to tweak the /etc/password file
Apr 08 09:30:04 <ogra_> or use an older image
Apr 08 09:30:18 <ppisati> if i mark a bug X on LP as a duplicate of Y, does X get cancelled?
Apr 08 09:31:40 <cooloney> ogra_: too bad, i don't backup old one
Apr 08 09:31:52 <ogra_> you can zsync to an older one
Apr 08 09:31:59 <ogra_> will only take a few mins
Apr 08 09:33:08 <cooloney> ogra_: can i find the old one in the cdimage.ubuntu.com, or some where?
Apr 08 09:34:11 <ogra_> yes, there should be some
Apr 08 09:34:31 <ogra_> also if you dont want to test desktop features, just use the serial/headless image ;)
Apr 08 09:34:40 <ogra_> way smaller and faster
Apr 08 09:35:17 <ogra_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/daily-preinstalled/
Apr 08 09:38:08 <cooloney> ogra_: i got headless image, so far serial always ok,
Apr 08 09:38:18 <ogra_> yeah
Apr 08 09:38:38 <ogra_> todays headless should just work though
Apr 08 09:38:39 <cooloney> i'm testing the HDMI and other deskop related stuff like wirelese, BT/FM
Apr 08 09:39:11 <cooloney> ok
Apr 08 09:39:14 <cooloney> understand
Apr 08 09:39:40 <ogra_> but if you need to test the desktop you likely need to use the netbook image
Apr 08 09:41:08 <hrw> kgilmer: good evenig
Apr 08 09:41:56 <kgilmer> hi hrw :)  good morning
Apr 08 09:42:39 <hrw> kgilmer: wanted to write 今晩は but prefer to not trust online dictionaries when it comes to languages which I do not understand
Apr 08 09:42:59 <kgilmer> :)  that would have been fine hrw.
Apr 08 09:43:33 <hrw> kgilmer: how goes things with bug2?
Apr 08 09:43:44 <kgilmer> i keep meaning to resume my work to get ubuntu running on bug, but never seem to find the time :(
Apr 08 09:44:11 <kgilmer> bug2 is going well.  i'm mainly focusing on android platform dev now.
Apr 08 09:44:57 <kgilmer> the build system is smaller in scope from oe, so it seems to break in less weird ways.  but, i do not understand the make file syntax it uses yet very well.
Apr 08 09:45:43 <kgilmer> today i got busybox running from the build so when accessing serial console you don't have to deal w/ androids nasty shell environment.
Apr 08 09:46:11 <kgilmer> hrw, http://buglabs.github.com/android/
Apr 08 09:47:49 <hrw> kgilmer: tried to base on cyanogenmod? busybox included by default
Apr 08 09:48:03 <hrw> kgilmer: and you can grab android busybox from many places too
Apr 08 09:48:33 <kgilmer> yes, i forked and adapted a busybox github project.
Apr 08 09:48:57 <kgilmer> i did see 'cyanogenmod' in the make file but i'm not familiar with it.
Apr 08 09:49:14 <hrw> kgilmer: still on .31 kernel?
Apr 08 09:49:30 <kgilmer> no...izzy and others are working on .35 now
Apr 08 09:49:32 <kgilmer> linero
Apr 08 09:49:48 <kgilmer> being out of the office, i don't hear much about the day-to-day however.
Apr 08 09:50:00 <hrw> kgilmer: 8h difference kills
Apr 08 09:50:13 <kgilmer> 13 for me
Apr 08 09:50:15 <kgilmer> yeah
Apr 08 09:50:57 <kgilmer> how are things going for you hrw?
Apr 08 09:51:57 <hrw> kgilmer: good. got my panda working again, cross toolchains are on a way to archive
Apr 08 09:52:23 <kgilmer> nice
Apr 08 09:52:28 <hrw> kgilmer: hoping to get ubuntu developer status on monday (if dmb meeting will have quorum for enough time)
Apr 08 09:53:06 <kgilmer> i am running ubuntu on my bbxm.  working quite nicely.
Apr 08 09:53:20 <kgilmer> except for kernel problem with audio not being fixed in latest.
Apr 08 09:53:59 <hrw> kgilmer: get .35 working with video out module and then ubuntu will be easier to get working on
Apr 08 09:54:08 <hrw> but .38 would be better
Apr 08 09:54:47 <kgilmer> wow i have this, i will have to check out cyanogen in detail.  http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/viewsonic-g-tablet
Apr 08 09:55:07 <kgilmer> .38 w/ working audio is available now hrw?
Apr 08 09:55:25 <hrw> kgilmer: cyanogenmod is nice build of android - I use it on my nexus s
Apr 08 09:55:41 <hrw> kgilmer: I do not use audio on devboards
Apr 08 09:56:14 <kgilmer> most people don't hrw...that is the problem.  i think bug audio has never worked right.  i could be wrong tho.
Apr 08 09:56:48 <XorA|gone> I kind of wish XM had HDMI audio
Apr 08 09:57:03 <XorA|gone> make a nice mp4 player without powering up my ps3
Apr 08 09:57:05 <kgilmer> hi XorA|gone
Apr 08 09:57:12 <XorA|gone> yo kgilmer
Apr 08 09:57:51 <kgilmer> i just bought a "dreamplug" today actually.
Apr 08 09:58:21 <kgilmer> it has optical audio out
Apr 08 09:58:47 <hrw> kgilmer: ah. yet another sheevaplug mod
Apr 08 09:58:59 <kgilmer> this one is pretty nice...  http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/c-5-dreamplugs.aspx
Apr 08 09:59:10 <kgilmer> at least it looks nice
Apr 08 09:59:21 <kgilmer> we'll see once it gets to me.  which will be weeks i imagine.
Apr 08 09:59:59 <hrw> kgilmer: migrate to debian or angstrom when you will get it.
Apr 08 10:00:14 <hrw> kgilmer: it comes with ubuntu 9.04 installed which is not supported anymore
Apr 08 10:00:34 <kgilmer> ic...newer ubuntu is not available hrw?
Apr 08 10:00:54 <XorA|gone> hrw: get that multiarch working for armv5 :-D
Apr 08 10:03:48 * XorA|gone can ssh into his beaglexm from outside his network now
Apr 08 10:05:32 <hrw> kgilmer: armv5 was supported only in 9.04
Apr 08 10:05:40 <hrw> XorA|gone: ipv4 or ipv6?
Apr 08 10:06:50 <XorA|gone> hrw: ipv4, my ISP has no v6
Apr 08 10:06:50 <hrw> that remind me that I have to add some AAAA entries
Apr 08 10:07:03 <hrw> XorA|gone: neither does mine - I use sixxs.net tunnel
Apr 08 10:08:24 <XorA|gone> hrw: I was looking into that, would be best if I could terminate it on my OpenWRT router
Apr 08 10:10:12 <hrw> XorA|gone: I end it on my ubuntu router
Apr 08 10:10:21 <hrw> but w8
Apr 08 10:10:21 <kgilmer> dinner time.  good chatting hrw XorA|gone.
Apr 08 10:10:29 <hrw> kgilmer: greet wife and Mira
Apr 08 10:10:39 <kgilmer> will do hrw :)
Apr 08 10:11:13 <hrw> XorA|gone: aiccu is available for openwrt
Apr 08 10:11:36 <hrw> XorA|gone: even for 0.9 openwrt
Apr 08 10:11:52 <XorA|gone> hrw: Im running tomato
Apr 08 10:12:59 <hrw> sane you are
Apr 08 10:13:23 <XorA|gone> I need at least some devices on network I dont need to continuous admin
Apr 08 10:14:33 <hrw> http://cynik.eu/brak-panelu-z-4chan
Apr 08 10:16:42 <XorA|gone> hrw: hehe
Apr 08 10:20:41 <XorA|gone> hrw: ah I see there is a method that I can terminate it on the sheeva or the XM
Apr 08 10:24:56 <XorA|gone> so all these tegra2 googies, do nvidia ship a good GPU driver for them?
Apr 08 10:25:49 * XorA|gone notices a silliness in natty boot.scr
Apr 08 10:27:56 <XorA|gone> unless something these days unsets it setting all the elevators to noop in cmdline is wrong
Apr 08 11:05:23 <ppisati> hrw: got it too
Apr 08 11:06:15 <ppisati> hrw: home on NFS?
Apr 08 11:17:33 <hrw> ppisati: on usb hdd
Apr 08 11:18:31 <ppisati> uh
Apr 08 11:18:40 <ppisati> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/591172/
Apr 08 11:18:44 <ppisati> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/591194/
Apr 08 11:18:51 <ppisati> while doing network traffic
Apr 08 11:19:01 <ppisati> in natty it takes a couple of minutes to get it
Apr 08 11:19:07 <ppisati> on meverick much more
Apr 08 11:19:20 <ppisati> both of them with vm.min_free = 8192
Apr 08 11:20:51 <ppisati> hrw: but did it break anything? i mean, the compilation went on or did it stop?
Apr 08 11:20:59 <ppisati> becase that msg is just a warning
Apr 08 11:21:14 <hrw> ppisati: compilation is still going
Apr 08 11:21:18 <ppisati> k
Apr 08 11:21:21 <ppisati> i.e.
Apr 08 11:21:23 <ppisati> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453010
Apr 08 11:21:30 <hrw> gcc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1)
Apr 08 11:21:41 <hrw> it was make -j33
Apr 08 11:21:42 <ppisati> ops
Apr 08 11:22:17 <ppisati> so the internal fragmenantion affetcs usrland memory too
Apr 08 11:22:18 <ppisati> nice
Apr 08 12:48:31 <easwar> Anybody home?
Apr 08 14:40:23 <hrw> easwar: wasap?
Apr 08 15:44:15 <armin76> guerby: *yawn*
Apr 08 15:45:21 <guerby> armin76, sh4 fun for now :)
Apr 08 15:47:05 <armin76> sh4 && fun? right :P
Apr 08 16:14:42 <alf_> rsalveti: Hi! Do you have a minute (or two) to try something for me?
Apr 08 17:28:30 <rsalveti> alf_: sure
Apr 08 17:29:18 <alf_> rsalveti: thanks, latest chat at #linaro ;)
Apr 08 17:30:20 <alf_> rsalveti: in a few works, can you try glcompbench on the panda? It isn't working for me and I can't figure out why.
Apr 08 17:30:38 <alf_> rsalveti: s/works/words/
Apr 08 17:30:51 <rsalveti> alf_: sure, have the bzr link?
Apr 08 17:30:55 <rsalveti> or branch name
Apr 08 17:31:03 <alf_> rsalveti: lp:glcompbench
Apr 08 17:31:11 <rsalveti> cool, will give it a try
Apr 08 17:31:40 <alf_> rsalveti: ./waf configure --prefix=/usr --data-path=`pwd`/data --with-flavors=egl-es2
Apr 08 17:31:53 <alf_> rsalveti: (so you can run it without installation)
Apr 08 17:32:02 <alf_> rsalveti: ./waf
Apr 08 17:32:09 <rsalveti> cool, one minute
Apr 08 17:32:17 <alf_> rsalveti: build/src/glcompbench-egl-es2
Apr 08 17:32:24 <alf_> rsalveti: sure, no hurry :)
Apr 08 17:34:12 <alf_> rsalveti: btw, I have been using the alpha3 image and I am now upgrading to latest to see if it makes any difference
Apr 08 17:35:40 <alf_> rsalveti: but it will take a few hours for the upgrade to finish :/
Apr 08 17:35:47 <rsalveti> alf_: yeah, can imagine
Apr 08 18:08:51 <rsalveti> alf_: will be able to test in a few minutes, had to use my other panda that doesn't have the pvr packages installed
Apr 08 18:09:08 <rsalveti> my main panda is building the kernel in loop to test the highmem issue
Apr 08 18:59:14 <rsalveti> alf_: just a solid blue window
Apr 08 18:59:36 <rsalveti> with everything update
Apr 08 18:59:42 <rsalveti> both ubuntu and sgx drivers
Apr 08 19:00:17 <rsalveti> alf_: what would be the expect behavior?
Apr 08 19:07:54 <alf_> rsalveti: blue background and the desktop windows drawn around in a circle (texture from pixmap)
Apr 08 19:08:21 <alf_> rsalveti: you can run it on your desktop with --with-flavors=glx
Apr 08 19:08:43 <rsalveti> alf_: sure
Apr 08 19:08:46 <alf_> rsalveti: (or egl-es2 if your driver supports it)
Apr 08 19:09:50 <alf_> rsalveti: I am not sure if it is a driver issue or I am doing wrong that just happens to work with mesa...
Apr 08 19:10:36 <alf_> rsalveti: thanks for trying it out!
Apr 08 19:10:57 <rsalveti> alf_: how to build for gl? --with-flavors=gl?
Apr 08 19:11:41 <rsalveti> glx :-)
Apr 08 19:11:49 <alf_> rsalveti: the flavors are --with-flavors=glx,egl-gl,egl-es2 (you can build them all at the same time)
Apr 08 19:12:04 <rsalveti> alf_: probably a bug, if you give an unsupported flavor it will finish the configure just fine
Apr 08 19:12:14 <rsalveti> just the make part that's not going to build what we expect
Apr 08 19:12:45 <alf_> rsalveti: yes, I was too lazy to fix that ;)
Apr 08 19:13:04 <alf_> rsalveti: I'll fix it now
Apr 08 19:13:05 <rsalveti> alf_: works fine with glx
Apr 08 19:13:53 <alf_> rsalveti: desktop or omap4 swrast?
Apr 08 19:14:09 <rsalveti> alf_: desktop
Apr 08 19:16:00 <rsalveti> alf_: is it working with the mesa gles?
Apr 08 19:17:32 <rsalveti> alf_: seems to have an eglerror with every pixmap update
Apr 08 19:17:34 <rsalveti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/591417/
Apr 08 19:17:50 <rsalveti> or is this eglerror expected?
Apr 08 19:18:12 <alf_> rsalveti: this is EGL_SUCCESS ;)
Apr 08 19:18:23 <rsalveti> alf_: oh, so it should be fine :-)
Apr 08 19:20:16 <alf_> rsalveti: on the desktop, it works with mesa even when I force EGL_SOFTWARE=1 (it uses glTexImage2D fallback)
Apr 08 19:20:47 <alf_> rsalveti: on OMAP4 I haven't tried for a long time as I am using the TI drivers
Apr 08 19:21:25 <alf_> rsalveti: but I guess I could try with software glx... but I have to wait for the update now :/
Apr 08 19:22:45 <rsalveti> alf_: was this example working with any ti driver version?
Apr 08 19:24:17 <alf_> rsalveti: I really can't remember now... I was under the impression that some version of it did run successfully, that's why I hadn't tried it for so long
Apr 08 19:24:40 <rsalveti> alf_: hm, ok
Apr 08 19:37:33 <alf_> rsalveti: interesting! http://people.linaro.org/~afrantzis/egl-composite.tar.gz which was the proof-of-concept precursor to glcompbench seems to work
Apr 08 19:38:23 <rsalveti> alf_: let me try
Apr 08 19:39:25 <rsalveti> alf_: yup, works fine here
Apr 08 19:40:12 <alf_> rsalveti: ok, cool, at least I have a starting point now :)
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 09 02:59:57 2011