**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 12 02:59:57 2011 Apr 12 09:56:59 ericm|ubuntu: the target to get a binary for a beagleboaard on natty/master is binary-omap, right? Apr 12 10:01:51 ppisati, I believe so Apr 12 10:01:53 ppisati, cooloney should know more detail Apr 12 10:02:34 ericm|ubuntu: k Apr 12 11:46:11 ogra_, janimo: the test rebuild for armel did finish for main, now building the universe packages. however I would like to start another test rebuild using gcc-4.6 for main, setting the priority of this test rebuild higher than the current running rebuild for universe Apr 12 11:46:17 ok with you? Apr 12 11:46:34 once gcj-4.6 is built Apr 12 11:55:30 doko, fine by me. There are not many important uploads remaining Apr 12 11:55:40 ok, thanks Apr 12 12:04:35 * ogra_ wishes we could exclude packages on demand for such rebuilds Apr 12 12:05:13 doko, fine with me, though if all big packages jump on the buoldds at the same time and lock all buildds i'll ask lamont to kill a build Apr 12 12:05:48 it's done alphabetically Apr 12 12:06:24 and if you are interested, you should be able to set the priority for single remaining builds Apr 12 12:06:29 ah, i didnt know, yesterday we only had two left, the rest was taken by things like thunderbird, firefox, eglibc gcc etc ... Apr 12 12:06:53 yeah, i know, doesnt help if all buildds are taken by packages that take more than a day Apr 12 12:07:31 go ahead, just be aware that i'll ask lamot to kill stuff if its urgent and the rebuild is blocking Apr 12 12:08:00 (i assume things will get retried anyway if they are killed) Apr 12 13:00:17 bug 758732 Apr 12 13:52:11 has anyone noticed a problem with the gcc-4.5-arm-linux-gnueabi package for natty? it has an unmet dependency: "Depends: libgcc1-armel-cross (>= 1:4.5.2-8ubuntu3cross1.47) but 1:4.5.2-8ubuntu1cross1.61 is to be installed" Apr 12 13:55:08 hrw: ^ Apr 12 13:55:41 i think it's a recent problem. i updated the toolchain this morning. Apr 12 13:59:48 yes, we know that Apr 12 14:00:09 I have a talk with steve in <1h so we will discuss this too Apr 12 14:03:25 hrw, cool. thanks. Apr 12 15:23:41 headless images fail to start oem-config. Apr 12 15:24:19 debconf database is locked apparently. Apr 12 15:46:21 ogra_: I am going to have to fail the headless images due to bug 758858. Apr 12 15:57:47 GrueMaster, hrm Apr 12 15:58:32 netbook looks fine apart from one jasper issue with the ppa icon that i need to fix Apr 12 16:00:16 I just booted netbook. Appears to be ok so far. Apr 12 16:00:54 it feels quite a lot slower though Apr 12 16:04:32 Hmmm. oem-config died near the end on my netbook image. Apr 12 16:06:01 Generating a bug report now. Not sure if it is reproducable yet (these types of failures take ~30 minutes to reproduce). Apr 12 16:07:23 didnt die for me here Apr 12 16:08:00 did you get an apport report ? Apr 12 16:08:22 yes. Looking over the logs now. I also have a stack trace. Apr 12 16:08:36 very strange Apr 12 16:12:36 ogra_: bug 758910. I'm going to reflash and retry. Apr 12 16:25:37 GrueMaster, you say it restarted, did it finish on the second run ? Apr 12 16:25:48 yes Apr 12 16:26:21 hmm, itz gtk boog i'd say Apr 12 16:27:05 Grumble. Need a proper German translator bot. :P Apr 12 16:27:11 lol Apr 12 16:27:34 well, keep an eye on it, but i doubt we'll see it again Apr 12 16:27:56 i did three installs already and havent seen it Apr 12 16:28:28 I'm reflashing & retrying now. Unfortunately my desktop system tends to degrade over time flashing sd cards and I end up having to reboot. Apr 12 16:28:43 bah Apr 12 16:34:58 Hmm. Running evolution, firefox, amarok, kde desktop, two VM's in virtualbox and flashing an sd card seems to low my system down a bit. Apr 12 16:35:22 loagavg: 5.90 Apr 12 16:36:23 on the panda ? Apr 12 16:37:53 Pfft. Panda doesn't do VM. Apr 12 16:38:37 ah, indeed :) Apr 12 16:39:24 oh, as to the win32 image writer my son developed for jaunty, we are on our own if we want to add functionality to it. He is too busy to help before summer. Apr 12 16:40:19 I'll see if I can get Ncommander to look at it before release. Apr 12 16:45:31 * ogra_ takes a short break and will then jump into headless mode ... Apr 12 16:48:31 * GrueMaster thought that was ogra_'s standard modus operendi. Apr 12 17:03:12 Nice. My panda is now detecting my wireless AP on the other end of the house. With no antenae. Apr 12 17:04:23 there is an antenna on the PCB Apr 12 17:04:29 (also detecting my neighbor's wifi. Mua haha). Apr 12 17:05:09 the socket is just for an extender Apr 12 17:05:15 Ah. Apr 12 17:05:33 i couldnt get bT to work though Apr 12 17:05:43 hi all Apr 12 17:05:57 ubuntu-arm works with Devkit8000? Apr 12 17:10:26 ttyandroid: Possibly. Try downloading the latest natty headless image to start with. We also have a netbook image as well. May need to replace x-loader & u-boot, but the rest of the pool should work fine. Apr 12 17:10:53 Many thks GrueMaster Apr 12 17:12:31 ttyandroid: Be aware that since it is essentially a beagle, not an XM, memory will be a major limitation. Apr 12 17:13:27 GrueMaster: i have buy one BeagleBoard-XM A3 and stop working Apr 12 17:13:38 HW failure? Apr 12 17:14:04 GrueMaster yes mmc card Apr 12 17:14:29 GrueMaster: i try to buy other Beagleboard-XM but not find Apr 12 17:14:45 The card or the card reader? Apr 12 17:14:59 GrueMaster: card reader Apr 12 17:15:04 Ouch. Apr 12 17:15:16 GrueMaster u-boot bin from original SD don't work Apr 12 17:15:53 GrueMaster: no load other u-boot.bin and console seems nothing Apr 12 17:16:35 Which image are you trying? Apr 12 17:16:45 GrueMaster original SD image Apr 12 17:16:53 oh, intresting ! Apr 12 17:17:08 ogra_: ??? Apr 12 17:17:09 on headless i see asoc set up the sound stuff correctly Apr 12 17:17:10 GrueMaster: Angstrom-demo-image Apr 12 17:17:23 on netbook i still had the old errors Apr 12 17:17:38 GrueMaster have another seller of BeagleBoard-xM ? Apr 12 17:17:42 * ogra doesnt get that Apr 12 17:18:26 ogra_: that is very odd. Apr 12 17:19:08 ttyandroid: I'm in the US. I just used Digikey. Apr 12 17:19:48 GrueMaster, http://paste.ubuntu.com/593227/ Apr 12 17:20:13 WTH??? Apr 12 17:20:37 I'll check it here, since I have two boards to play with side by side. Apr 12 17:20:41 yeah, confusing, isnt it ? Apr 12 17:21:25 headless was built last while netbook was built first in a chunk of ten image builds or so Apr 12 17:21:43 I wonder if it is because of the alsa-utils stuff we added post-maverick? Apr 12 17:21:44 * ogra goes to check the manifests Apr 12 17:22:37 thats a good idea .... i'm just noticing that headless doesnt have any alsa userspace stuff Apr 12 17:23:17 i bet TheMuso carried that over from maverick Apr 12 17:23:54 Silly little aussie. :P Apr 12 17:24:13 well, nobody told him to drop it :) Apr 12 17:24:40 hmm, there are no processes at all on the headless image Apr 12 17:24:52 i dont get why it would fail Apr 12 17:25:17 oem-config? Don't know either. Apr 12 17:26:04 bah, crap ... Apr 12 17:26:15 * ogra forgot he has no job control in the rootshell Apr 12 17:26:20 starting over Apr 12 18:13:04 ogra_: Interesting tidbit. I removed /usr/share/alsa/init/omap4 and after a reboot, I now have no dmesg errors relating to asoc. Checking to see if sound works. Apr 12 18:16:57 GrueMaster, that would be awesome Apr 12 18:21:55 No sound. Mucked with alsamixer controls, nothing. Apr 12 18:22:22 Haven't tried the patches and updates you have yet. Apr 12 18:23:50 ah, well, you will need the new pulse from people.c.c Apr 12 18:26:09 tried with new pulse and nothing Apr 12 18:26:59 i get a new device in the sound properties Apr 12 18:27:12 but it only provides an input device apparently Apr 12 18:27:28 i sadly dont have the time to play more with wound today Apr 12 18:27:31 *sound Apr 12 18:27:39 will have to wait until post beta Apr 12 18:29:52 well, in any case dropping the maverick scripts should be a step forward Apr 12 18:32:27 GrueMaster, do you remember when we had the last working headless images ? Apr 12 18:32:48 Beta 1. Apr 12 18:32:49 * ogra_ tries to figure out the uboquity changes that might have caused this Apr 12 18:33:03 i'm pretty sure there were images after b1 Apr 12 18:33:20 but i dont know for how long Apr 12 18:35:40 I have all dailies since Beta. Haven't been able to test them as I was hobbled last week. I can do a binary test and see where the point of failure started. Apr 12 18:36:57 i would guess with april 3rd Apr 12 18:37:32 i see two debconf related changes in the ubiquity upload from the 2nd Apr 12 18:38:15 Ok, starting there. Apr 12 18:58:58 ogra_: 20110403 fails Apr 12 18:59:44 if 02 works i think i know what it is Apr 12 19:00:35 i'll try to remove that code bit here, lets see what happens then Apr 12 19:01:24 Checking 02 now. Apr 12 19:01:44 (as well as juggling a mirade of other test images). Apr 12 19:08:44 02 passes. Apr 12 19:09:13 So the relevant version of oem-config is 2.5.32->2.5.33 Apr 12 19:12:58 yep Apr 12 19:13:20 + * Do a quick check at startup to see if the debconf database is locked by Apr 12 19:13:21 + something else, and exit slightly more gracefully than by raising an Apr 12 19:13:21 + exception (LP: #746020). Apr 12 19:13:29 thats what i suspect to be at fault Apr 12 19:14:22 * ogra_ tests Apr 12 19:15:36 Is there a tool to check the debconf db? Apr 12 19:15:50 no idea Apr 12 19:15:53 Could be a simple boolean error. Apr 12 19:16:02 i dont think there is a tool Apr 12 19:16:07 works ! Apr 12 19:16:19 * ogra_ is at the language selection screen Apr 12 19:23:29 aaaand ... install successfully finished \o/ Apr 12 19:25:12 yup, all fine, even after a reboot Apr 12 19:31:54 You mentioned that jasper is doing something with debconf? Apr 12 19:32:21 yes, but it does that since before beta1 Apr 12 19:32:48 and it does it before the reboot, i already asked colin if it could cause any issue, but he denied Apr 12 19:33:14 it only sets debian-installer/framebuffer to false Apr 12 19:34:05 i simply think the check is worng, but i wouldnt know how to write it different or better Apr 12 19:34:58 i fear we need cjwatson Apr 12 19:38:46 hey all, i have an arm machine that unless the hdmi cable is plugged in, it freezes during boot. i've set the console to equal our serial console, and i added debug=vc to the kernel command line... and it appears it gets to this point: + /scripts/init-top/plymouth Apr 12 19:38:52 and then it stops Apr 12 19:39:13 What is the platform? Image? Apr 12 19:39:24 uImage, Maverick, ARM mx515 Apr 12 19:40:19 I don't think we had an mx515 kernel for maverick. I know we didn't have images. Apr 12 19:40:35 Might check with #linaro folks. Apr 12 19:40:38 The Linaro kernel supports some mx515 boards, but I guess it's a custom kernel Apr 12 19:40:48 you know it is lool :P Apr 12 19:41:08 steev: This is in the initrd still; plymouth touches framebuffer (it outputs the boot progress splash and messages etc.) Apr 12 19:41:29 steev: To poke at what's happening, you can add break=something to your kernel cmdline, this will give you a shell in the initrd Apr 12 19:41:45 steev: rgrep maybe_break /usr/share/initramfs-tools to see possible breakpoints you can use Apr 12 19:42:19 lool: my understanding was that, plymouth was supposed to see if it could use a framebuffer and if not (ttymxc0) was supposed to go down to a text console, it doesn't appear to be going to a text console Apr 12 19:42:20 steev: For instance, break=top is a good choice to get started Apr 12 19:42:44 okay, ill give that a shot :) Apr 12 19:42:51 steev: I can't speak for what plymouth attempts to do, you might have to research this yourself; but I can tell you how to run things by hand ;-) Apr 12 19:43:07 well if i can step through it, that will point where i need to go :) Apr 12 19:43:22 steev: To read the sources, take the initrd.gz from the system and unpack it in a directory of your choice: mkdir i; cd i; gunzip -c < ../initrd.gz | cpio -i Apr 12 19:43:39 steev: That will give you the same contents as what's in the initrd from the shell you will have Apr 12 19:43:48 steev: You can run exactly the same shell commands to see at which points it goes wrong Apr 12 19:57:14 is there a way to make plymouth itself be a tad more verbose, like saying what it's attempting to do? Apr 12 20:03:54 GrueMaster, see -release ... fix underway ;) Apr 12 20:04:13 I've been monitoring it. Cool. Apr 12 20:04:21 :D Apr 12 20:04:35 so apart from sound we should be good now Apr 12 20:04:48 Yep. Apr 12 20:04:56 and the odd color change in headless :) Apr 12 20:05:05 I still don't see that. Apr 12 20:05:11 i still wonder why only i seem to see it Apr 12 20:05:16 snap :) Apr 12 20:05:41 but i see it on all machines, its not client bound ... else i would have blamed the ac100 Apr 12 20:05:58 Maybe it looks different when not viewed through a beer glass. Apr 12 20:06:09 hmm, i should try that Apr 12 20:06:13 heh Apr 12 20:06:22 * ogra_ goes to look for a whisky botte to replace the glass Apr 12 20:06:28 *bottle Apr 12 20:07:34 GrueMaster, but do you use screen ? Apr 12 20:07:49 screen+byobu Apr 12 20:07:54 (i think i remember you said byobu) Apr 12 20:08:07 that might apply colormap changes Apr 12 20:09:10 Well, the system that the serial console is hooked to is headless. So ssh->byobu->many screen sessions. Apr 12 20:09:17 ah Apr 12 20:09:41 i wouldnt mind having it b/w Apr 12 20:09:57 i wonder if there is a way to enforce that on the installer side Apr 12 20:18:32 where does /conf/param.conf come from (we don't have one, which is why i ask) Apr 12 20:20:33 ogra_: I'm going to go ahead and greenlight armel rebuilds after oem-config is fixed. I haven't found anythhing that is critical and no one on kubuntu is interested in testing prior to rebuild. Apr 12 20:21:08 GrueMaster, yeah, just go ahead, i'll test tomorrow as soon as i get up Apr 12 20:21:33 That will really help, as I have an am post-op appointment tomorrow. Apr 12 20:22:00 no prob Apr 12 20:44:00 even when setting up the postfix (calling debconf) the colors were weird Apr 12 20:44:11 pink and gray IIRC Apr 12 20:44:25 mine are completely inverted Apr 12 20:44:34 rendering the whole ui unreadable Apr 12 20:44:51 yeah, seems to be inverted Apr 12 20:45:41 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/747229 has screenshots Apr 12 20:46:20 Wow. I am definately not seeing that. Apr 12 20:47:13 (of course, I am currently not seeing much of any oem-config atm) :P Apr 12 20:47:19 heh Apr 12 21:06:47 hi is anyone available to help me with a Ubuntu 10.10 ARM/OMAP question? Apr 12 21:07:01 Run into a bit of a problem working with the USB connection Apr 12 21:11:03 Schamus: Give more details. What are you seeing? Apr 12 21:11:45 Quite right, I'm running a Beagleboard xM A3,with ubuntu 10.10. I'm coding a python script to manipulate an LCD screen via USB Apr 12 21:12:30 The python script uses import serial, sets up the connection, and shoots hex bytes controlling and manipulatingthe screen to show items, however, on the beagleboard its apparently not sending the information over correctly Apr 12 21:12:47 Ok. Not sure how much help we can be. have you tried this on x86 first? Apr 12 21:12:51 On any other laptop this script works perfectly, but the beagleboard does not Apr 12 21:13:27 So i was curious if USB drivers on the Ubuntu 10.10 ARM edition are a bit different than a standard Ubuntu 10.10 install Apr 12 21:13:59 They should be the same. I believe the kernel was the same for both x86 & armel. Could be a config issue though. Apr 12 21:14:39 How so? Apr 12 21:15:17 Check /bot/config-`uname -r` Apr 12 21:15:21 boot Apr 12 21:16:20 The code is the same tree as x86. If it is a usb issue, it is either in the core arch code or a missing config option. Apr 12 21:16:30 The rest is arch generic. Apr 12 21:17:04 Also, try the latest maverick kernel or the natty kernel. Apr 12 21:17:51 yeah i did updates yesterday Apr 12 21:20:06 so, excuse my amateur, you mean something like "gedit /boot/config-'uname -r' correct? Apr 12 21:20:32 yes Apr 12 21:21:13 (you can actually just use tab completion, but it was easier to type uname -r to indicate the config for the running kernel) Apr 12 21:22:10 yeah i've been picking up linux over the past month or two so i'm a little ignorant in some basics still Apr 12 21:24:15 im pulling up a blank with that command Apr 12 21:25:16 type 'ls /boot-config*'. That should give you a list of config files. Apr 12 21:25:26 Look at the latest one. Apr 12 21:27:01 Ah, got it now. Apr 12 21:27:37 is there a specific section im looking at for USB? Apr 12 21:28:36 I have no idea personally. I don't have one of these lcd screens to try to reproduce this issue with. Apr 12 21:29:17 What image are you running on your laptop? If it is running the same release, check to see if it has the same kernel rev. Apr 12 21:29:40 That is the easiest starting point. Apr 12 21:31:02 10.04 on my laptop, 10.10 on the beagleboard Apr 12 21:31:58 I would suggest upgrading the laptop. It will be easier to diagnose that way. Apr 12 21:32:34 You can also just download the iso and use usb-creator to make a bootable usb drive to test with. Apr 12 21:33:19 Yeah, I mean I tried many other USB devices, (i.e. bluetooth dongle, mouse, keyboard) and they all work, just this LCD screen doesn't seem to want to accept streams from the beagleboard Apr 12 21:35:04 could it be a problem with permissions? Apr 13 01:41:35 my dreamplug just arrived today. A little disappointed it came with Jaunty preinstalled... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 13 02:59:57 2011