**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 28 02:59:58 2011 Apr 28 07:20:16 morning Apr 28 07:40:30 morning Apr 28 09:36:17 ogra, is it fair to call the ARM netbook build a "developer" version? Apr 28 09:36:44 I'm trying to avoid confusion for netbook users as to which image to download Apr 28 09:36:54 (in the release announcement) Apr 28 09:52:48 mdz, hmm, the developer image for arm is actually the headless one ... netbook is usually referred to by us as an enduser image in the community Apr 28 09:52:49 (i.e. as answer to the often upcoming question why we use a splash, have no kernel messages on and no serial login enabled by default) Apr 28 09:53:03 mdz, i would just call it "Image of the ARM edition" or some such instead and just drop the flavour Apr 28 09:53:20 ogra, which computers does it run on? Apr 28 09:53:42 all it says right now are Panda and Beagle, which are not end user computers but developer boards Apr 28 09:55:37 mdz, right, thats true ... but the image is supposed to be a reference for enduser installs Apr 28 09:55:48 vs the headles image which is a clear developer only image Apr 28 09:56:56 "A special developer version is provided for select Texas Instruments Apr 28 09:56:56 (TI) ARM platforms, specifically the "Panda" and "Beagle" boards. Apr 28 09:56:56 " Apr 28 09:57:00 is the language I've suggested Apr 28 09:57:10 (removing the reference to netbooks) Apr 28 09:57:13 referring to netbook ? Apr 28 09:57:52 ogra, referring to the 11.04 release Apr 28 09:58:02 not to a specific image Apr 28 09:58:18 * ogra would somewhat like the word reference in there ... :) but its ok as is Apr 28 09:58:41 Developer reference images are provided for select Texas Instruments (TI) ARM Apr 28 09:58:41 platforms, specifically the "Panda" and "Beagle" boards. Apr 28 09:58:43 ogra, ok? Apr 28 09:58:49 perfect ! Apr 28 09:58:51 :) Apr 28 09:58:52 done Apr 28 10:12:36 * hrw waits for Eagleboard ;D Apr 28 10:14:02 * LetoThe2nd still wants koalaboard. Apr 28 10:17:10 Beagle, Hawk, Leopard, Panda exists so far Apr 28 10:43:17 ogra, you have release noted the omap4 sound issues, but if i read bug #651302 there are isses on omap3 as well ? should that be noted too ?? Apr 28 10:43:18 Launchpad bug 651302 in alsa-lib "No sound in omap (beagle, beagleXM)." [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651302 Apr 28 10:43:47 apw, we have it noted in the arm release notes, i think thats enough Apr 28 10:44:08 http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/NattyReleaseNotes Apr 28 10:44:09 ogra_, ok Apr 28 11:17:46 ogra_, your arm release notes, the links at the bottom are missing Apr 28 11:18:45 mdz: ogra: panda and beagle are not the proper names. i think you should say pandaboard and beagleboard. in fact I think the exact name is PandaBoard and BeagleBoard. Apr 28 11:20:18 mdz, can we still change that ? Apr 28 11:21:23 mdz: ogra: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PandaBoard Apr 28 11:21:43 ogra_, yes, go ahead if nobody has the edit lock. don't forget to use `` to avoid it becoming a wiki link Apr 28 11:21:51 I still think that someone else should confirm, but I am pretty sure that Panda and Beagle is not the right one... Apr 28 11:22:06 prpplague: ^^ any idea? Apr 28 11:22:21 ogra_, oh, never mind, you're talking about the release announcement, rather than the release notes Apr 28 11:22:26 ogra_, ask skaet Apr 28 11:22:41 note that text is already copied into the release notes too Apr 28 11:23:36 mdz, i think ndec just referred to our above conversation Apr 28 11:23:56 * ogra goes around and changes Apr 28 11:24:37 ogra_: mdz: whatever reference you are making to panda and beagle you should be using the 'official' names. Apr 28 11:25:02 ogra, please tell skaet what you are doing Apr 28 11:25:23 np, will do Apr 28 11:25:25 ogra, you are blocking the release :P Apr 28 11:26:22 Daviey, awesome ! i always wanted to be at fault for that :P (didnt manage to in 6 years canonical) Apr 28 11:28:05 ogra: I am glad I could help you for this challenge ;-) Apr 28 11:31:06 Developer reference images are provided for select Texas Instruments (TI) ARM Apr 28 11:31:06 platforms, specifically the "PandaBoard" and "BeagleBoard" developer systems. Apr 28 11:31:20 looks beautiful... Apr 28 11:40:42 there we go, happy release day :) Apr 28 11:41:02 i'm out for some grocery, but anyone with arm/mmu/openocd/gdb knowledge is welcome: Apr 28 11:41:03 oops typoed Apr 28 11:41:06 bug 768249 Apr 28 11:41:07 Launchpad bug 768249 in linux-ti-omap4 "kexec panic: external abort on non-linefetch (0x1008) at 0x03510000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768249 Apr 28 11:44:09 ogra: your link is broken Apr 28 11:44:16 there's | in it :D Apr 28 11:44:37 thanks ! :) Apr 28 11:45:08 the ubuntu.com in such a mess on my machine. Something like broken css Apr 28 11:48:58 fairuz: with dell laptop on top of text? Apr 28 11:49:14 had to reload Apr 28 11:49:16 hrw: yes, and some broken list below it Apr 28 11:49:21 ah Apr 28 11:49:50 hrw: you are right, a hard refresh do the job Apr 28 11:52:18 ogra: why is there 'DRAFT' here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes Apr 28 11:53:13 ogra: also it seems that you in fact did put a wikilink for PandaBoard and BeagleBoard ;-) Apr 28 11:55:22 ndec, because its a draft :) the actual release notes go to ubuntu.com Apr 28 11:56:29 ogra: well, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes points to this place, and I received the release announcement already... so why is it still a draft? Apr 28 12:00:47 hmm, right Apr 28 12:02:27 i pinged #ubuntu-release Apr 28 12:02:37 fixed Apr 28 12:02:49 ndec, thanks for pointing out ! Apr 28 12:33:46 ogra: one more. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/NattyReleaseNotes has a link (at the end) to the netbook instructions. link is dead Apr 28 12:34:10 yeah, i need GrueMaster to tell me where he actually put that page Apr 28 12:34:26 or if he planned to just recycle the maverick notes Apr 28 12:34:30 its on my todo Apr 28 12:35:03 will likely be another 2h until he gets up Apr 28 12:37:16 ogra: and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPHeadlessInstall has a link to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/releases/ which is dead too... Apr 28 12:37:49 oh, yeah, that should point to the new location Apr 28 12:39:23 fixed Apr 28 12:39:34 (if the wiki ever saves) Apr 28 12:42:36 ogra: the manifest files are missing from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/ Apr 28 12:43:14 might be on purpose, seems they are missing for all images there Apr 28 12:43:37 hmm, except i'm blind Apr 28 12:43:39 :P Apr 28 12:45:06 pinged #ubuntu-release again ... lets see Apr 28 12:51:56 hi Apr 28 13:03:32 ndec: PandaBoard and BeagleBoard are the correct naming for the boards Apr 28 13:03:47 prpplague: thanks! ogra ^^ Apr 28 13:04:08 well, thats what we use now :) Apr 28 13:04:39 sorry for the late response, brain needed sleep Apr 28 14:47:59 Morning. Ogra, I didn't get a chance to do the installation notes for netbook. Apr 28 14:49:48 In the middle of editing the release notes page, my system decided it absolutely needed to reboot. I took that opportunity to upgrad ram from 3G to 8G. Didn't know my MB bios needed a massive upgrade to support it and was effectively down for over an hour. Apr 28 14:53:15 GrueMaster, it's critical you get it done NOW, the release is out Apr 28 14:53:25 and people have noticed your name vs notes Apr 28 14:54:50 I'll try. Wiki is being extremely slow. Apr 28 15:00:06 everything will be slow today :) Apr 28 15:00:11 its release day :) Apr 28 15:19:08 GrueMaster, apart from the blaze stuff i think the page looks ok, do we know blaze will boot that way still ? Apr 28 15:19:32 Not sure. Haven't had a chance to try since beta 1. Apr 28 15:19:47 I think blaze support is broken Apr 28 15:19:54 sebjan can give more details Apr 28 15:20:08 don't know if our kernel supports it Apr 28 15:20:08 yes, it's broken Apr 28 15:20:44 so remove that bit from the wiki then Apr 28 15:20:54 last time I tried, display was broken, but I can't remember if it was booting. Apr 28 15:21:40 Anything else to change? I have 5 minutes before I need to leave for a while. Apr 28 15:22:25 GrueMaster, then just go, i'll look over it after meeting and fix up what i find Apr 28 22:39:48 are the ubuntu arm repos stable now? Apr 28 22:43:34 for natty i mean Apr 28 22:45:24 steev: yes Apr 28 22:53:15 rsalveti: awesome Apr 28 22:54:10 rsalveti: in the OnericObjectives link, you mention a gl/gles proxy library, where is that, or is it something internal? Apr 28 22:54:29 steev: was something developed by linaro Apr 28 22:54:55 steev: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-graphics-wg/+spec/multimedia-linaro-runtime-gl-proxy Apr 28 22:58:05 thanks again :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 29 02:59:57 2011