**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 17 02:59:58 2011 May 17 03:16:51 Hello, I have written, and booted a ubuntu omap image on my Nook Color... or I assume it has booted as SD card takes priority in boot and the device doesn't boot normally, however Windows detects an unrecognizableusb device... May 17 03:17:01 What's my next step to doing something with it? May 17 03:26:29 Is there a way to access it over USB via my linux machine? May 17 03:26:57 Or should I try to build a version that utilizes the graphics processor in the Nook Color, and its display? May 17 03:30:34 It's always so... blah in here. May 17 03:33:07 Xase, I'd try to help you but I have no idea what hardware you're talking about... hopefully that makes things less blah :) May 17 03:33:24 Yes, would you like some info @ Matt_O ? May 17 03:34:10 http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook-color-technical/3483-nookcolor-full-specifications.html#post19758 May 17 03:36:13 And as I said, it boots more or less, obviously however there is no display, though from what I understand, great work has went into this gpu it contains with xorg. May 17 03:44:02 I'd imagine the sources for the Encore (Nook Color) Kernel would help in making a kernel for it as well? May 17 03:58:02 And now we've returned to blah. May 17 04:12:55 BBL May 17 07:22:47 ogra_: since you subscribed me to ubuntu-armel bugs, may you also tell me howto write a gmail filter to tag them ;) May 17 07:45:48 lol May 17 07:46:39 suihkulokki: look for the X-Launchapd-Message-Rationale header and other similar headers May 17 07:47:53 suihkulokki: and http://blog.launchpad.net/bug-tracking/gmail-filters-for-launchpad-bug-email May 17 07:49:30 suihkulokki: and finally the best one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFilter May 17 07:51:38 amitk: ah, the upper one was exactly what I want May 17 07:52:08 amitk: gmail doesn't allow filtering with headers, but with the words in mail it works around... May 17 07:55:40 mail filtering is very poor May 17 07:57:26 ? May 17 07:59:27 s/mail/gmail May 17 08:00:56 at least I had such feeling when last time tried it May 17 08:20:21 suihkulokki, i only follwed a request from your manager :P May 17 08:21:22 heh May 17 08:24:25 suihkulokki: rsalveti requested adding whole team to ubuntu-armel May 17 08:24:59 for me it means more entries in Canonical/LP/bugs folder **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 17 10:44:26 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 17 10:44:26 2011 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 17 10:45:25 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 17 10:45:53 2011 May 17 11:44:34 suihkulokki: hrw: with gmail you can only filter with the email content, where it says why you received the email May 17 11:44:51 and it's basically another way to trace arm bugs May 17 11:45:12 generally the arm team add the ubuntu armel porters when triaging arm relevant bugs May 17 11:45:30 well, we have some that are related to our images only May 17 11:45:47 sure, but that's fine :-) May 17 11:45:53 ogra_: you can fix all of those ;-) May 17 11:45:53 which arent actually arch specific May 17 11:45:58 heh May 17 11:45:59 i plan to May 17 11:46:26 but first i will introduce a pile of new bugs ... else its no fun :) May 17 11:46:40 * ogra_ uploads the ac100 kernel to the PPA May 17 11:59:51 lol May 17 13:00:26 janimo: any chance you could look at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/70865132/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-armel.chromium-browser_11.0.696.57~r82915-0ubuntu0.10.04.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz as well if oneiric is going to break in different ways? that's 2 versions old BTW, latest in -proposed May 17 13:00:51 micahg, will check May 17 13:01:07 janimo: thans May 17 13:01:09 *thanks May 17 13:02:20 micahg, this one looks like a packaging/config issue, as it luckily does not segfault May 17 13:02:36 and upstream supports ARM well AFAIK May 17 13:03:08 janimo: so, we're just missing a build-depends? May 17 13:03:34 micahg, did not look that close - I need to remember how chromium build system works first :) May 17 13:04:04 but there are simply undefined references to libjpeg-turbo, which is supported on ARM (android at least) May 17 13:04:14 maybe never tested on regular linux May 17 13:04:44 micahg, same versions of chromium go to both lucid and oneiric? May 17 13:05:20 janimo: well, currently oneiric arm is FTBFS at .68, I've been skipped arm uploads for the stable releases since the last round failed May 17 13:06:04 ok, right the ld segfault. But in principle you keep them up to date for all supported ubuntu releases I guess May 17 13:06:43 janimo: yes, I only separated the source so we can push non-arm faster May 17 13:07:12 separated the source? May 17 13:09:32 janimo: made chromium-browser i386 and amd64 on stable, will upload chromium-browser-arm source for arm as soon as there's a good chance it will build May 17 13:12:13 hmm, ok May 17 13:13:34 janimo: unfortunately necessary since we have no lead time on the builds May 17 13:19:28 I'm soooo lost. May 17 13:23:07 So, what kind of steps do I need to take while aiming to port ubuntu-arm to my device? May 17 13:23:54 what kind of device ? May 17 13:24:13 you usually only need the bootloader and a kernel and know how they boot the device May 17 13:24:16 Nook Color May 17 13:24:22 userspace very rarely differs May 17 13:24:23 Also known as the Encore May 17 13:24:42 Xase_, wait for GrueMaster to get up, he is working on an image for 11.10 May 17 13:24:58 Well, when I booted the omap image, it seems to boot, but obviously no display. May 17 13:25:00 For the Encore? May 17 13:25:32 ask him, i dont know which model he has May 17 13:25:36 Windows just let me know there's an unrecognized USB device connected once powered on. May 17 13:26:02 Alright ogra_, cause I'd love to be learning something useful in my life, and this seems to be the gateway for me. May 17 13:29:45 If Myriad group ported Dalvik to the N900... this means lots of good things. May 17 13:57:55 Hi! I think ubuntu-arm images and instructions need more "visibility". I find it difficult to reach https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/* through web searches or the main Ubuntu page. May 17 14:00:59 ogra_: janimo: ^^ just pinging to make sure the team is aware of this :) May 17 14:03:53 alf_, thanks, what would you suggest ? May 17 14:04:09 robclark: sebjan: ndec1: Do you know how I might contact Doug Deao? May 17 14:04:25 lag, you pung me yesterday ... May 17 14:04:41 anything important ? May 17 14:04:48 ogra_: Yes, you use multiple devices don't you? May 17 14:04:57 ogra_: Do you use a bip server? May 17 14:05:01 hmm, not sure if I know who that is.. May 17 14:05:11 robclark: Any way you can find out? May 17 14:05:11 lag, not to my knowledge May 17 14:05:23 ogra_: How do you collect backlog? May 17 14:05:24 ogra_: for one make sure that the arm port is mentioned somewhere in the main ubuntu downloads page (eg in alternative downloads) May 17 14:06:06 lag, well, i use dircproxy on one machine and a direct connection on the other May 17 14:06:47 alf_, ah, well we might get an arm landing page at ubuntu.com, i usually find it easiest to just go to cdimage.ubuntu.com and process from there May 17 14:06:57 ogra_: I'm trying to prevent one device from swallowing all my backlog May 17 14:07:42 lag, well, dircproxy should do that for you, i have some issues here though (which is why i usually still leave another machine running with direct connection) May 17 14:07:44 ogra_: For instance, if I log in on my tablet, it swallows all the backlog May 17 14:08:00 ogra_: Okay, I might just leave it May 17 14:08:10 ogra_: If I miss a message, I miss a message May 17 14:08:17 ogra_: sure, but you already know where to look for :) May 17 14:08:20 ogra_: If it's important, they can email :) May 17 14:08:21 for me dircproxy replays the backlog on every connect May 17 14:08:39 only the one since last connect though May 17 14:09:16 alf_, yeah, i agree we should have better exposure, i'm just not sure how, i guess we need to involve marketing for website stuff May 17 14:13:44 lag: I have irssi inside of screen/tmux running on one my machines 24/7 May 17 14:14:26 hrw: I use a bip server May 17 14:14:51 hrw: I like it, but whichever device logs on first, swallows all the backlog, which is then deleted from the server May 17 14:57:00 Can anyone here field questions on arm thumb instruction coding? May 17 15:00:59 Xase_: Morning. I haven't had a chance to dive into ubuntu on my nook color yet, but it is high on my todo list. May 17 15:28:00 GrueMaster: I'm willing to help, and learn. May 17 15:29:01 Excellent. I'm a bit busy with high priority work this week, but keep your eyes posted. It may require some tweaking of our standard kernel. May 17 15:29:28 My first step will be to build the B&N kernel into our image just to see if it works. May 17 15:29:49 Keep checking back here and at #nookcolor. May 17 15:32:11 Alright GrueMaster. I had an idea involving using the CyanogenMod Kernel as a test piece. May 17 15:32:19 Since it enables bluetooth. May 17 15:32:49 Not sure that it has the graphics support, but worth a shot. May 17 15:34:04 Well, they have a built kernel working for the Nook Color, but I'm sure you're already aware. May 17 15:34:42 Maybe you could give me a few good search terms, aimed at changing the kernel in the image, and I'll see what I can find and test on my own, and report to you. May 17 15:35:36 Do you have a linux system to work with? Preferably Ubuntu? May 17 15:35:53 Yes May 17 15:36:16 I have ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop that I have hooked to my TV May 17 15:36:45 Hopefully if all goes well, I'll have a desktop I can dedicate to it. May 17 15:36:49 Cool. My starting point was going to be with our netbook image. See link in /topic May 17 15:38:14 Xase_: porting takes a bit of effort May 17 15:38:39 Xase_: first step is to get some form of interactivity May 17 15:38:55 cracking interactivity was the key with the galaxy tab May 17 15:39:32 lilstevie: The nookcolor can boot from external SD. Hard part is already done. May 17 15:39:33 GrueMaster: This link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/ ? May 17 15:39:41 Xase_: Yes. May 17 15:39:47 kk just checking boss. May 17 15:39:55 Grab the omap image (not the omap4). May 17 15:39:59 GrueMaster: that part is easy :p May 17 15:40:01 heh May 17 15:40:14 Yeah, the image booted, and made noise in my devicemanager on windows... but obviously failed to register :D May 17 15:40:22 lilstevie: Not for some systems that don't boot externally. :P May 17 15:40:22 interactivity was a bitch for the tab May 17 15:40:25 Well... somewhat booted. May 17 15:40:36 GrueMaster: the tab doesnt boot externally either May 17 15:40:48 The galaxy tab has ubuntu? May 17 15:40:50 Lollol May 17 15:41:02 Xase_: yes it does, I made sure of that May 17 15:41:06 I don't like the tab... it feels chunky. May 17 15:41:14 I love it :) May 17 15:41:15 I'd rather have it than the Xoom though. May 17 15:41:26 oh you are talking about the 10.1? May 17 15:41:36 I am talking about the original 7" device May 17 15:41:36 Yeah. May 17 15:41:42 The 7" is nice. May 17 15:42:13 10.1 is a different beast May 17 15:42:30 So how hard is it to replace the kernel do you think? May 17 15:42:42 do you have fastboot May 17 15:42:44 Easy enough for me to do, if I'm semi-adept with the terminal? May 17 15:42:51 I uh... dunno honestly. May 17 15:42:56 I don't think so... May 17 15:42:59 I think just CWM May 17 15:43:18 I don't recall installing it, and I wouldn't imagine it'd be default on the Encore. May 17 15:43:24 fastboot is bootloader level May 17 15:43:36 Power and vol down right? May 17 15:43:53 it is a utility you run May 17 15:44:22 Yeah, it interfaces with the bootloader. May 17 15:44:35 Xase_: After pulling down the image, you can decompress it and then mount the boot partition with "mount -o loop,offset=$((512*63))" May 17 15:45:25 You will need to install uboot-mkimage tomake a uboot kernel. May 17 15:45:34 Alright. May 17 15:45:52 So fairly straight forward from there if I find the right links? May 17 15:46:33 I'd grab the MLO, u-boot, uImage, & uInitrd from the CM image and put them on the ubuntu image. May 17 15:46:51 But yea, fairly straight forward. May 17 15:47:47 So, I won't have to make the uboot kernel at first, just after testing CM7 kernel? May 17 15:51:55 Right. Sorry, still working on my first coffee of the morning. May 17 15:52:17 Same. May 17 15:52:27 If that works, then I guess we may not need the B&N kernel. May 17 15:54:57 I'd personally pull for either or... I really am a fan of the wifi powering down during sleep... though some people call it a bug, however some people really like bluetooth, and cyanogenmod is probably more optimized for other things. May 17 15:55:13 I don't think stock bn has ext4 support =/ May 17 15:55:22 for example. May 17 15:57:29 Neither does our image currently. May 17 15:57:47 The kernel has it, but the image is ext3. May 17 15:58:46 Mainly because the ext4 support was unstable in the kernel we used for omap4 until around Beta 1. Never got around to switching it. May 17 16:08:28 Lol May 17 16:08:43 Well I'll just use the BN kernel then at that case May 17 16:08:56 If I want to download something I'll just have to keep awake May 17 16:11:38 If this works, you still won't be able to do much. It will boot, but it will go into oem config, which requires a keyboard. Hopefully we can get on-screen keyboard support in Oneiric. May 17 16:13:45 Why can't it be done now? I'm not making a complanitory statement, just curious as to why @ GrueMaster May 17 16:14:07 Is there a way to trigger bluetooth support at start? Because I have a bluetooth keyboard... May 17 16:14:26 Well, I guess not, because I'd need to be able to config the bluetooth pairing. May 17 16:14:29 GrueMaster, just chrooting into the image and installing florence should be possible May 17 16:15:27 ogra_: Can that be done from an x86 host? I have a beagleXM I can use to manipulate the image with, but others may not. May 17 16:16:33 yes, using qemu-kvm-extras-static and copying qemu-arm-static inot the image to /usr/bin May 17 16:16:44 then you can just chroot May 17 16:16:55 Ah. May 17 16:17:09 We should add that to the wiki. May 17 16:17:25 i think it is *somewhere* on the wiki :) May 17 16:17:36 i once asked dyfet to write it up May 17 16:17:49 hmm ... so it miught probably not be ... May 17 16:17:51 Yea, that probably happened. May 17 16:17:59 :P May 17 16:19:16 0 May 17 16:19:47 Sorry. my daughter is eating lunch in my lap May 17 16:20:13 as long as you dont spill it into the channel on our laps thats fine ... May 17 16:20:14 Heh. May 17 16:21:07 Well she likes the keys, so the most you might get is some chicken finger grease in your circuits. May 17 16:21:34 ah, thats fine ... fat makes the electrons flow faster May 17 16:21:48 Good news, just got a monitor, and now can fix this desktop. May 17 16:21:59 Gotta wait till she naps to rig it. May 17 16:48:42 Blah May 17 17:30:30 hi.. I am trying to compile Ubuntu Natty Kernel for Beagle Board (OMAP3).. which kernel source should I take? May 17 19:02:42 Woo. May 17 19:02:47 Internet went down. May 17 20:18:20 nooo, the whole internet went down? May 17 20:45:36 No. May 17 20:45:38 Mine May 17 20:45:44 Trying to nmake a ubuntu disc May 17 20:47:18 GrueMaster: what was that line for mountlooping the image. May 17 20:55:40 GAH. May 17 20:55:57 Now my work has been halted by a lack of information. May 17 21:06:36 * Xase whittles a sharp pointy stick, because that's all whittling is good for. May 17 21:14:48 ... May 17 21:39:58 ScottK: ar eyou going to be the product manager for the armel+mx51 ? May 17 22:10:40 Xase: Sorry, had to run some errands. To loopmount the image, first type "file " to figure out the start sector of the partition you want. May 17 22:12:43 Then type "sudo mount -o loop,offset=$((512*))" Where =( May 17 22:17:51 It's okay :D May 17 22:19:32 GrueMaster: which sector has the kernel? May 17 22:20:07 Or which sector should I mount? May 17 22:21:32 For boot, the first partition. The second partition has the rootfs. May 17 22:21:58 And boot contains kernel correct? May 17 22:22:36 Boot has the xloader (MLO), uboot, and uboot modified kernel & initrd. May 17 22:23:50 The rootfs has /boot with vmlinuz, initrd.img, and all the modules. May 17 22:24:02 Same as your desktop. May 17 22:24:43 Hmm May 17 22:24:44 =/ May 17 22:25:11 Slight problem, I just get the help for mount while running that command. May 17 22:25:43 Make sure to replace all of the <> sections I told you. May 17 22:25:57 and no quotes. May 17 22:26:02 I did... should I maintain the <> ? May 17 22:26:07 no May 17 22:26:13 That's what I thought. May 17 22:26:28 oh... May 17 22:26:31 lollollol May 17 22:26:33 forgot -o May 17 22:26:46 heh. -oops May 17 22:27:51 Ok I see those files... May 17 22:28:11 Now should I just decompress CM7's flashable zip, and take the same files from it, and just overwrite or what? May 17 22:28:31 Yes. May 17 22:28:38 That is usually the easiest. May 17 22:29:01 kk I'll report back after I'm done, gotta transfer over the stuff, I haven't networked that desktop yet. May 17 22:29:07 Have I mentioned I kind of dislike unity. May 17 22:29:15 Heh May 17 22:29:27 It actually isn't that bad on a netbook. May 17 22:29:35 No I like it on netbookms... May 17 22:29:40 But... it blows on desktop May 17 22:29:41 Sucks on a 24" 1080p monitor. May 17 22:31:12 Sucks on a 56" monitor in 720p ;) May 17 22:31:27 Heh May 17 22:31:29 The feeling is mutual :D May 17 22:31:47 Hmm May 17 22:38:32 GrueMaster: I assume that stuff is in the ramdisk.img contained with in the zip? May 17 22:38:40 Can I just loop that without an offset? May 17 22:39:06 Guess not... May 17 22:39:19 Not sure. What was the link to the CM7 file? Let me pull it and look. May 17 22:39:23 "Must Specify Filesystem Type" May 17 22:39:42 http://mirror.cyanogenmod.com/get/update-cm-7.0.3-encore-signed.zip May 17 22:40:02 It contains u-boot legacy uImage Image May 17 22:40:07 and some other stuff May 17 22:40:44 Maybe it'd just be easier for sanity sake to just build it :D May 17 22:41:27 Pulling, give me a sec. May 17 22:41:52 You must have amazing internet... May 17 22:42:02 I wouldn't worry aboutthe ramdisk.img May 17 22:42:20 Actually, I'm at my mothers. She only has basic DSL. May 17 22:42:29 1.5/768 May 17 22:42:35 I just moved from having 1.8mb to 175Kb May 17 22:42:41 ouch May 17 22:42:44 Yeah. May 17 22:43:03 Getting 512K/s atm. May 17 22:43:08 I don't see the files elswhere in the file. May 17 22:45:41 =/ May 17 22:46:38 Hmm. looking at the zip file now. Interesting. May 17 22:47:14 file ./ramdisk.img yields: u-boot legacy uImage, Image, Linux/ARM, RAMDisk Image (gzip) May 17 22:48:05 Yea, that isw the ramdisk image. THis looks like only an update, not an image that you could boot from. May 17 22:48:14 *isn't May 17 22:48:31 oh snap May 17 22:48:36 The kernel may be usefull, but still need MLO and possibly uboot. May 17 22:49:30 I'll take a look inside the nightly May 17 22:49:46 The nightly is the full install at least. May 17 22:50:03 I have the B&N source for their v1.2 release. Iwas going to base off of that. May 17 23:03:13 Sorry bout that. May 17 23:04:42 Got a copy of those sources? May 17 23:05:15 I searched for a half hour earlier while half asleep, and never found them... May 17 23:05:23 Guess I gave up eventually. May 17 23:06:20 Let me see if there is a link. May 17 23:24:26 NCommander: Sure. May 17 23:25:56 ScottK: thanks May 17 23:36:37 hrw, y? May 18 02:14:01 GrueMaster: someone crashed my internet earlier, I assume it was the dogs, did you find that link bossmate? May 18 02:14:43 Yes. http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PResources/download/Nook/source-code/nookcolor_1.2.tgz May 18 02:15:35 Guess I gotta build it, what was the name of that tool? May 18 02:18:24 Wow this internet blows. May 18 02:34:39 =D May 18 02:36:50 GrueMaster: what was that utility I needed to build it? May 18 02:39:32 Oops, sorry. I think you can install gcc & gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi May 18 02:39:41 Then cross compile. May 18 02:39:53 (dinner called, had to eat) May 18 02:40:34 Why did it call, was it still alive? May 18 02:43:21 Daughter shut the internet May 18 02:43:33 heh May 18 02:43:41 StevenK: Hey! May 18 02:44:10 StevenK: No, I don't eat Aussie style. :P May 18 02:44:33 Hah May 18 02:45:46 so gnu-gcc and gnu-arm-eabi? May 18 02:45:55 I didn't quite read it before she shut the lid. May 18 02:46:15 I'm going to open up irc on the desktop so I don't miss anything. May 18 02:46:16 heh. gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi May 18 02:47:06 I knew I was close. May 18 02:47:15 And that has the utility to build the u-boot source? May 18 02:47:17 Xase_: I have quasselcore installed on a server in my basement, and I connect to it with quasselclient. The server stays logged in, even when I travel. May 18 02:47:55 I think it should, but you may need to tweek the makefile. I've never cross compiled before. May 18 02:47:56 I'm working with unlimited space and resources unfortunately, but that sounds awesome. May 18 02:48:05 rsalveti would know. May 18 02:48:15 * rsalveti reading May 18 02:48:26 READING?!?E!@ER@EWFSD May 18 02:48:29 How dare you. May 18 02:48:30 rsalveti: xcompile u-boot May 18 02:48:31 :p May 18 02:49:38 CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- make omap4_panda_config May 18 02:49:49 CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- make u-boot.bin May 18 02:49:51 for panda May 18 02:50:40 Alright, I'll be sure to bother the room with numerous pastebins when I hit retardation walls. May 18 02:51:18 Xase_: So just change omap4_panda_config for omap3621_evt1a May 18 02:51:39 You know, I've never bothered trying to share files via windows & Linux... is it easy? May 18 02:51:54 Xase_: samba should do it May 18 02:51:56 easy to set May 18 02:52:37 Good, because I have shite internet, and already downloaded the source to this computer... would rather just share things back and forth. May 18 02:59:44 Nananana nananana hey hey, lets compile. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 18 02:59:57 2011