**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 30 02:59:59 2011 May 30 06:17:56 morning May 30 14:17:20 ogra is there any documentation about putting ubuntu arm on a toshiba ac100? May 30 14:18:42 zul, yes May 30 14:18:51 zul, you got one ?!? May 30 14:19:31 ogra_: yep, christmas came early May 30 14:19:38 awesome May 30 14:20:04 zul, https://launchpad.net/~ac100/+archive/ppa follow the link to my people account May 30 14:20:04 android sucks as an os ;) May 30 14:20:10 yeah May 30 14:20:43 currentl installation means to jump thought some hoops May 30 14:20:59 zul: android serves a purpose May 30 14:21:04 just not on tablet devices May 30 14:21:06 i'm working on a proper installer that should be ready within this week May 30 14:21:30 lilstevie, i would use it on a tablet ... but on nothing with a keyboard May 30 14:21:49 ogra_: it is ok on the galaxy tab May 30 14:21:55 yeah May 30 14:22:02 but ubuntu is still better May 30 14:22:08 :) May 30 14:23:05 zul, start with http://developer.download.nvidia.com/tegra/files/os/tegra_froyo_20110207.run.gz it contains the nvflash utiliy you will need to flash the new kernel to the device May 30 14:23:06 the easiest way to explain how android feels on the tab is like having a Ferrari that is locked out of 4th gear + May 30 14:23:43 ogra_: cool ll poke around May 30 14:23:49 and ask if i need help May 30 14:24:25 zul, http://ac100.gudinna.com/README/ has outdated instructions for older images ... the commands are stil the same though May 30 14:24:35 it works just not very very May 30 14:27:23 zul: and if you want 3d, suspend and sound, you can follow my guide for .32 http://ac100.tunk.org/wiki/phh May 30 14:27:24 ogra_: hi. i installed natty from the minimal FS. what's the meta package to install the full desktop? ubuntu-netbook or ubuntu-desktop? May 30 14:27:38 gildean: meh May 30 14:27:47 but it has a bunch of nvidia-binaries and crap like that May 30 14:27:51 ndec, up to oneiric its ubuntu-netbook May 30 14:28:05 with this release we'll switch to -desktop on arm too May 30 14:28:12 ogra_: thx May 30 14:28:19 im more interested in running other things other that desktop on it May 30 14:28:26 gildean, zul surely wants to work with things like lxc May 30 14:28:34 so he should use a sane kernel May 30 14:28:42 ogra_: yeah, just mentioning :) May 30 14:29:02 ogra_: and normal server work loads ;) May 30 14:29:06 yeah May 30 14:29:36 ogra_: so on natty ubuntu-netbook should install the unity2D? May 30 14:29:41 zul, go for my .37 image then, if you run into issues, just ping ... same goes for the kernel, if you are mising options or patches, tell me May 30 14:29:51 ndec, both actually May 30 14:29:55 will do May 30 14:29:59 unity as well as unity-2d May 30 14:30:05 defaulting to 2d May 30 14:30:07 ogra_: ok.. 1gb is being installed ;-) May 30 14:33:03 I really wish I could crack the 3D accel nut on the tab May 30 14:33:12 unity would be win on the tab May 30 14:34:21 lilstevie, use unity-2d as we do in all arm images ? May 30 14:34:30 ogra_: it fails May 30 14:34:35 and florence so you have an android like kbd May 30 14:34:42 it fails ? May 30 14:34:47 bug number ? May 30 14:34:50 :) May 30 14:34:54 ogra_: not bug number May 30 14:35:05 unless you want my own trac :p May 30 14:35:12 I have zero accel May 30 14:35:15 even 2D May 30 14:35:19 and ? May 30 14:35:32 gnome-classic is the only thing that doesn't put too much load on the cpu May 30 14:35:33 my ac100 does only framebuffer too May 30 14:35:48 but unity-2d is snappier than the 3D one on my intel laptop May 30 14:35:50 your ac100 is also dualcore :) May 30 14:35:54 true May 30 14:36:07 but the cores are not actually used for graphics stuff May 30 14:36:28 my software framebuffer is a bit fail May 30 14:36:52 the SGX540 is meant to software accelerate without the need for the userland blobs May 30 14:37:14 it is a bug my end though May 30 14:37:34 the 2.6.32 sourcedrop from samsung had the most ugly unoptimized code **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon May 30 18:58:39 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 30 19:00:14 2011 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon May 30 20:11:13 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 30 20:12:15 2011 May 30 20:28:39 I'm sitting here upgrading our target to natty, and I've hit this --sysroot thing. How can I compile Qt (not from deb source) with xdeb ? E.g. are there any tutorials of how to build with xdeb out there? May 30 20:29:26 uhm, *cross compile Qt May 30 20:30:35 Dodgy network atm? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 31 07:34:15 2011 May 31 07:40:10 I'm bumping my question from yesterday: Are there any descriptions available how to cross compile non-debianized source software (I'm building Qt) with xdeb? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 31 07:48:14 2011 May 31 07:54:48 xdeb is to build debianized sources May 31 08:34:42 hrw, So since the ubuntu/linaro toolchain don't support sysroot, there are no way of building non-debianized sources? May 31 08:38:16 (Of course you know in advance the build deps for the sources) May 31 08:38:31 normal? May 31 08:38:52 ./configure --host=arm-linux-gnueabi;make kind? May 31 08:39:37 I wonder if that works for Qt? May 31 08:41:14 Qt does support cross compilation. The only problem are target armel library dependencies. And without sysroot, the rpath in these libs will be off May 31 08:42:45 sveinse: during oneiric cycle I hope that we will finally get multiarched headers so development will be much easier then is now May 31 08:43:08 ok May 31 08:43:56 to make some progress: If I want to cross build qt4-x11 from deb source, how do I do that? May 31 08:44:10 with xdeb that is May 31 08:45:49 xdeb -a armel --prefer-apt --only-explicit qt4-x11 May 31 08:45:53 I would try that May 31 08:46:17 thanks, I'll do that May 31 09:30:00 cooloney: hi May 31 09:53:39 hrw: hi May 31 14:12:12 GrueMaster: when you have time - http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/imx51/linux-image-2.6.31-608-imx51_2.6.31-608.26_armel.deb May 31 14:12:28 GrueMaster: is another kernel with some mor CVEs fix, if you can boot test it May 31 14:12:50 GrueMaster: it would be nice, so i can pull req May 31 14:39:31 ppisati: Didn't I test this on Friday? May 31 14:50:22 GrueMaster: new one May 31 14:50:33 GrueMaster: more cve fix etcetc May 31 14:50:41 GrueMaster: version didn't change since i didn't close it May 31 14:50:48 GrueMaster: and you will get more and more :) May 31 14:51:01 sigh. Ok. May 31 14:51:02 GrueMaster: just give me a "it boots" check May 31 14:51:09 Yep. May 31 14:51:30 did someone know a tool which will give me filesystem with just selected packages fetched (with deps) and unpacked? May 31 14:52:08 You mean like rootstock? May 31 14:52:27 forgot about that one... May 31 14:54:47 ppisati: In the future, when you post these kernels, please increment some number so that I hve a way of knowing which one is installed. Thanks. May 31 14:55:17 GrueMaster: uhm, i don't know if i can without closing the release May 31 14:55:29 GrueMaster: i'll check May 31 14:55:38 rootstock auto assume armel? May 31 14:56:01 I know it is possible. Others send me test kernels with bug ids in the version number all the time. May 31 14:56:14 and is also wrong tool. I need fs with 'libc6-dev libc6-dbg' and dependencies - no rootfs stuff needed in it May 31 14:56:47 GrueMaster: ok, i'll put some custom "grue1, grue2, grue3, etcetc" so you can distinguish it May 31 14:56:54 hrw: I have no other suggestions. Sorry. May 31 14:57:01 no problem May 31 14:58:21 hrw: but do you need a "release", or do you want some total custom image? May 31 14:58:52 ppisati: boots. No errors. May 31 14:59:01 GrueMaster: k, pull is coming May 31 14:59:11 * GrueMaster wanders off for morning shower & coffee. May 31 15:00:31 total custom fs May 31 15:03:06 hrw: i see, then i don't know any tool... May 31 15:04:25 hrw: i mean, deboostrap still install a minimal system May 31 15:05:02 hrw: if minimal + custom is ok, deboostrap May 31 15:05:23 hrw: but i think (but i could be wrong) that rootstock exploits deboostrap May 31 15:09:45 it is using it May 31 18:54:26 On natty/omap4 if i build something w/ g++ -marm and try to change a pages attributes, it fails (where-as it does not with the default build, read: thumb) ... thumb interop is not disabled so i'm confused as to why, anyone have any thoughts on the subject before I dig it further / file bug report ? May 31 18:59:34 Data I pass looks valid : Attempting to change atribs of 2 pages (PageSize: 4096) @ 0x1164000 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 01 02:59:56 2011