**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 27 02:59:57 2011
Jun 27 07:34:56 <kunguz> I have ubuntu arm headless version installed on my beagleboard C3, I want to use my usb wifi dongle to connect it to the internet.
Jun 27 07:35:04 <kunguz> RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN is the adapter
Jun 27 07:35:23 <kunguz> Apperantly i need to install a driver to make it work
Jun 27 07:35:34 <kunguz> but there is no make command in headless version
Jun 27 07:35:36 <kunguz> any ideas?
Jun 27 08:06:31 <Spider-Pork> morning
Jun 27 09:34:53 <bamLUCE> Hi, can you suggest me a cheap (~ 50$) handheld with a lcd display which supports linux and has a network card?
Jun 27 10:05:44 <kunguz> I am looking for a document as an explanation to how to connect to internet with ubuntu-arm headless? Does anyone know?
Jun 27 10:16:36 <Spider-Pork> generally after install the connection is auto-magically up
Jun 27 10:17:12 <Spider-Pork> Have you problems?
Jun 27 10:27:28 <diwic> ogra_, hi! Haitao wants a catchup on audio on the ac100
Jun 27 10:28:04 <diwic> ogra_, sometime while we're in Dublin, you're in Dublin as well right? I think I remember seeing you here.
Jun 27 10:34:08 <ogra_> diwic, yeah, and i'm sitting in front of 6 ac100s atm
Jun 27 10:35:29 <ogra_> diwic, we're in the arm room, if you want to can have a device for this week
Jun 27 11:00:10 <ppisati> ogra_: do you want an ac100 more? :)
Jun 27 11:27:55 <lilstevie> ogra_: did you get audio functioning on the AC100
Jun 27 11:49:11 <ogra_> ppisati, sure, come over
Jun 27 11:56:14 <ppisati> ogra_:
Jun 27 11:56:27 <ppisati> ogra_: after lunch i'll be all over you
Jun 27 11:56:40 <ogra_> awesome !
Jun 27 12:00:09 <Spider-Pork> ogra_: hi, i've installed Natty netbook version. Done apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. Then sudo alsaucm set _verb HiFi sudo alsaucm set _verb Record sudo rm /var/lib/alsa/asound.state sudo reboot I still have no input :(
Jun 27 12:04:20 <Spider-Pork|2> sorry for my pase, my connection gone down and i'm not sure about arrived on channel
Jun 27 12:04:26 <Spider-Pork|2> [13:57:15] <Spider-Pork> ogra_: hi, i've installed Natty netbook version. Done apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. Then sudo alsaucm set _verb HiFi sudo alsaucm set _verb Record sudo rm /var/lib/alsa/asound.state sudo reboot I still have no input :( [13:58:41] <Spider-Pork> of course as line-in, no mic
Jun 27 12:04:33 <Spider-Pork|2> *paste
Jun 27 12:41:41 <ocs_> Hi, can you suggest me a cheap (~ 50$) handheld with a lcd display which supports linux and has a network card?
Jun 27 12:48:35 <lilstevie> that is quite an ask
Jun 27 13:56:29 <lilstevie> persia: chase agreed that the kernel driver should work
Jun 27 14:06:41 <blu_> hi all
Jun 27 14:08:26 <lilstevie> hi blu_
Jun 27 14:09:12 <blu_> i have some trouble on my ubuntu 11.04 on pandaboard
Jun 27 14:09:29 <blu_> my wifi ping have a serious packet loss
Jun 27 14:10:14 <blu_> which is when i ping my router , i get a maximum 11 consecutive response then it will stuck for a while and resume back with another 11 consecutive response ...etc.
Jun 27 14:11:09 <blu_> can anyone tell me what probably is the problem ?
Jun 27 14:11:12 <lilstevie> how far from the router
Jun 27 14:11:27 <blu_> less than 1 m with good signal strength
Jun 27 14:12:07 <lilstevie> hm
Jun 27 14:12:17 <lilstevie> natty is really good with wireless on my device
Jun 27 14:12:29 <blu_> have you try to ping ?
Jun 27 14:12:34 <lilstevie> yeah
Jun 27 14:12:44 <blu_> ping without packet loss
Jun 27 14:12:46 <lilstevie> better results than I had with maverick
Jun 27 14:12:59 <blu_> is there any packet loss ?
Jun 27 14:13:03 <lilstevie> no
Jun 27 14:13:15 <blu_> r u using 11.04 ?
Jun 27 14:13:15 <lilstevie> this isn't panda though
Jun 27 14:13:17 <lilstevie> yes
Jun 27 14:13:22 <blu_> and kernel 2.6.38 too ?
Jun 27 14:13:28 <lilstevie> no
Jun 27 14:13:37 <blu_> which kernel u using ?
Jun 27 14:13:38 <lilstevie> different device different kern
Jun 27 14:13:42 <lilstevie> 2.6.35.7
Jun 27 14:14:03 <blu_> you r not using pandaboard ?
Jun 27 14:14:17 <lilstevie> have you tried running maverick again, just to see if there is a difference still
Jun 27 14:14:20 <lilstevie> no
Jun 27 14:14:31 <blu_> what device u r using ?
Jun 27 14:14:35 <lilstevie> galaxy tab
Jun 27 14:14:50 <blu_> may be different driver
Jun 27 14:15:00 <blu_> or different wireless hardware
Jun 27 14:15:17 <blu_> pandaboard uses wl1271 (if i not mistaken)
Jun 27 14:15:17 <lilstevie> I do have different hardware
Jun 27 14:15:23 <lilstevie> bcm4329 here
Jun 27 14:16:00 <blu_> is there any encryption on the comm ?
Jun 27 14:16:07 <blu_> ie. wep , wpa , wpa2
Jun 27 14:16:23 <lilstevie> wpa2
Jun 27 14:16:38 <blu_> nad u r using the wpasupplicant ?
Jun 27 14:16:44 <lilstevie> yep
Jun 27 14:17:34 <blu_> then either driver problem or kernel problem (i guess)
Jun 27 14:18:12 <lilstevie> or the binary firmware blob
Jun 27 14:18:56 <blu_> is fimware located on our SD storage or on the chip in the hardware ?
Jun 27 14:19:25 <lilstevie> should be in /lib/firmware/ somewhere
Jun 27 14:20:20 <blu_> mean that is on my  SD right ?
Jun 27 14:21:03 <lilstevie> yeah
Jun 27 14:21:36 <blu_> is galaxy using cortex A8  ?
Jun 27 14:21:42 <lilstevie> yeah
Jun 27 14:22:22 <lilstevie> samsung hummingbird SOC
Jun 27 14:22:35 <blu_> what is the diferrent between fireware and driver ?
Jun 27 14:22:44 <blu_> (in ubuntu)
Jun 27 14:23:04 <blu_> (and sry for asking beginner question becoz i m a beginner)
Jun 27 14:24:20 <NewbieToKernel> hi room
Jun 27 14:24:51 <NewbieToKernel> i want to build ubuntu for arm from sources
Jun 27 14:25:04 <NewbieToKernel> can anyone point me to the rite place?
Jun 27 14:25:22 <lilstevie> firmware is code that runs on the hardware, for instance with the wireless card it runs on the wireless chip to make it work
Jun 27 14:25:40 <lilstevie> and the driver is the interaction between the firmware and the OS
Jun 27 14:25:42 <NewbieToKernel> i looked up rootstock ... but that doesn't seem to be what i want
Jun 27 14:26:17 <blu_> lilstevie: could the code run on the hardware store in SD?
Jun 27 14:26:50 <lilstevie> blu_: some hardware stores its firmware on its own storage, but most use a loaded in firmware that is located in /lib/firmware
Jun 27 14:27:05 <lilstevie> NewbieToKernel: that is quite a difficult task
Jun 27 14:27:48 <NewbieToKernel> I can build android from its sources , can a similar thing be done for Ubuntu?
Jun 27 14:27:55 <blu_> #pandaboard
Jun 27 14:28:52 <NewbieToKernel> what exactly does rootstock do ?
Jun 27 14:29:06 <lilstevie> NewbieToKernel: android is different,
Jun 27 14:29:43 <lilstevie> rootstock grabs prebuilt binaries and builds a system from those packages
Jun 27 14:30:01 <lilstevie> NewbieToKernel: is there a reason you want to build from source, cause it is generally not something you want to do
Jun 27 14:30:13 <blu_> lilstevie: is patching driver , install driver, and patching firmware are all required to rebuild kernel ?
Jun 27 14:30:40 <lilstevie> blu_: sorry I don't understand
Jun 27 14:31:01 <NewbieToKernel> @lilstevie: I want to add openGL / hardware codec support etc etc for ubuntu on an arm target
Jun 27 14:31:03 <lilstevie> blu_: the kernel is a bit more than just drivers
Jun 27 14:31:20 <lilstevie> NewbieToKernel: then building an entire system is not needed for that
Jun 27 14:32:23 <NewbieToKernel> @lilstevie: but then how will i get access to the HAL on ubuntu? say for ALSA ?
Jun 27 14:32:40 <blu_> lilstevie: i was looking at https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/546381/ and https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/546401/ to try patch my driver
Jun 27 14:33:05 <blu_> but i was told that i need to rebuild/recompile my kernel for that
Jun 27 14:33:20 <lilstevie>  blu_ download the sources for panda
Jun 27 14:33:44 <lilstevie> NewbieToKernel: well for that you would only need to build ALSA if you were modifying that
Jun 27 14:34:06 <blu_> lilstevie: okay , then what should i do ?
Jun 27 14:34:44 <NewbieToKernel> @lilstevie: and then how do i manage to put ALSA back to the binaries and use rootstock ?
Jun 27 14:35:15 <NewbieToKernel> @lilstevie: is there an online guide to doing this?
Jun 27 14:36:11 <lilstevie> although, I don't think you should be modifying ALSA but rather the driver to make it compliant with the spec
Jun 27 14:36:11 <NewbieToKernel> @lilstevie: basically i dont know where to get started
Jun 27 14:36:34 <NewbieToKernel> @lilstevie: ALSA was just an example,
Jun 27 14:37:05 <lilstevie> doesn't matter what, still should be trying for compliance with the spec rather than working around it
Jun 27 14:37:17 <lilstevie> but if you look there will be source for everything available
Jun 27 14:37:43 <lilstevie> grab what you want to modify if you can't modify the driver,
Jun 27 14:37:46 <lilstevie> build it
Jun 27 14:38:02 <lilstevie> and install it into the proper filesystem
Jun 27 14:38:12 <lilstevie> proper place in the filesystem*
Jun 27 14:38:23 <lilstevie> blu_: apply the patch and compile
Jun 27 14:40:04 <blu_> lilstevie: is that mean i have to compile the whole ubuntu ?
Jun 27 14:41:24 <NewbieToKernel> @lilstevie: so where do i get started? say i want to add support for hardware codecs ... so where do i modify? for this i will need the location of the ubuntu sources ,I can then modify the sources, and then how do i push those changes back to my arm binary ?
Jun 27 14:41:57 <NewbieToKernel> i mean i can modify gstreamer
Jun 27 14:42:15 <NewbieToKernel> but then how to pus the changes back to the binary is what i want to know
Jun 27 14:47:30 <NewbieToKernel> stevie... did I explain myself clearly?
Jun 27 14:49:21 <NewbieToKernel> basically i want to know how to *grab what i want to modify and put it in put it into the appropriate file system*
Jun 27 14:53:38 <lilstevie> NewbieToKernel: with all hardware support that should be done in the kernel driver rather than in userspace
Jun 27 14:53:43 <lilstevie> blu_: no just the kernel
Jun 27 14:54:25 <blu_> lilstevie: that is not not for beginner :(
Jun 27 14:54:34 <blu_> *not
Jun 27 14:54:52 <lilstevie> no
Jun 27 14:56:51 <Spider-Pork> ogra_: sorry do you have only 2 minutes about my pandaboard and input sound?
Jun 27 14:57:24 <blu_> lilstevie: i see that compiling kernel is not an easy stuff
Jun 27 14:58:25 <Spider-Pork> maybe this link will be interesting http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Get_started_with_ubuntu_on_omap4
Jun 27 15:01:37 <lilstevie> blu_: once you are set up for it it isnt that difficult
Jun 27 15:02:50 <NewbieToKernel> @lilstevie: you are right, kernel changes would be for adding support for new hardware that is currently unsupported ... but what if I do have hardware support , but I need to change the HAL of ubuntu to use that hardware support?
Jun 27 15:03:41 <lilstevie> why would you need to change the HAL
Jun 27 15:04:32 <lilstevie> HAL has been depreciated
Jun 27 15:06:07 <NewbieToKernel> basically I only have access to the hardware via HAL . I donot have access to the actual drivers  , but this HAL is not compatible with Ubuntu HAL. By HAL i mean a generalized hardware abstraction layer , not something sprcific to ubuntu that has been deprecated
Jun 27 15:06:29 <blu_> lilstevie: okay , thank you ... i will try and hopefully that can solve my prob
Jun 27 15:06:55 <NewbieToKernel> so i want to write a mapping layer between these 2 HAL's
Jun 27 15:07:45 <NewbieToKernel> i want the ubuntu HAL to use call my HAL rather than invoking the kernel drivers directly
Jun 27 15:11:35 <lilstevie> NewbieToKernel: what device is this
Jun 27 15:17:03 <NewbieToKernel> I basically want to improve ubuntu port on Nexus 1
Jun 27 15:17:30 <NewbieToKernel> or nexus S
Jun 27 15:18:48 <NewbieToKernel> so I want android and ubuntu to co-exist, and ubuntu can use the Andoid HAL
Jun 27 15:21:17 <ogra_> there is no HAL in ubuntu anymore
Jun 27 15:21:40 <ogra_> Spider-Pork, sorry, but i'm out of ideas, it works on all pandas here if you use an mp3 player as input
Jun 27 15:22:03 <Spider-Pork> ogra_: just to understand if i missed some steps
Jun 27 15:22:13 <ogra_> no, the steps look fine
Jun 27 15:22:14 <Spider-Pork> downloaded prebuild natty netbook image
Jun 27 15:22:18 <Spider-Pork> ah ok
Jun 27 15:22:32 <ogra_> yeah, with that image and these steps sound works everywhere here
Jun 27 15:22:42 <lilstevie> NewbieToKernel: you mean you want to chroot?
Jun 27 15:23:04 <Spider-Pork> ogra_: done apt-get update && upgrade too
Jun 27 15:24:04 <Spider-Pork> :(
Jun 27 15:25:24 <Spider-Pork> ogra_: just to see if my board is broke, can you post an image of a your SD card with input working?
Jun 27 15:25:29 <Spider-Pork> *broken
Jun 27 15:25:54 <Spider-Pork> a dd copy for example
Jun 27 15:26:15 <ogra_> i am at the ubuntu sprint, there are several in teh room here, sound just works with teh above commands as described on the bug
Jun 27 15:27:24 <NewbieToKernel> @ogra: There must be some hardware abstraction layer in Ubuntu? @lilstevie not necessarily chroot just want ubuntu to use the hardware abstraction layer that android uses
Jun 27 15:27:31 <Spider-Pork> thank you ogra_
Jun 27 15:27:48 <Spider-Pork> so the last chance is the input broken
Jun 27 15:28:19 <blu_> ogra_: can you help me on ubuntu 11.04 wifi on pandaboard ?
Jun 27 15:28:47 <lilstevie> then where is the incompatibility, enable a kernel option, you will have no problems
Jun 27 15:29:03 <lilstevie> only  something like the battery wont read properly
Jun 27 15:30:13 <ogra_> NewbieToKernel, there is none, hal was dropped in favour of udev, udisks and upower
Jun 27 15:30:28 <ogra_> who all work directly through kernel uevents
Jun 27 15:32:04 <lilstevie> for the hummingbird SOC anyway
Jun 27 15:32:16 <lilstevie> sound is a pain, but that is how the audio codec is implemented
Jun 27 15:47:41 <persia> lilstevie: So, iof the kern driver works, which bit falls down?
Jun 27 15:49:28 <lilstevie> persia: looks to be evdev
Jun 27 15:52:34 <persia> The X input driver?
Jun 27 15:53:15 <persia> Does xinput --list-props not show the right set?
Jun 27 16:04:15 <lilstevie> it does, there is something weird no idea what
Jun 27 16:11:53 <kunguz> how do I connect my beagleboard to wireless internet? Ubuntu headless found the hardware and configured it during the install, now I am trying to find a way to connect to any ssid
Jun 27 16:14:41 <lilstevie> persia: I think I am going to have to file a bug on bugzilla
Jun 27 16:19:25 <kunguz> Can someone please help me to figure out how to connect to internet with my beagleboard that runs ubuntu-arm headless version?
Jun 27 16:22:32 <kunguz> can anyone please at least suggest something? I am really stuck with where to start
Jun 27 16:23:36 <shirgall> kunguz: ifconfig is where I would start
Jun 27 16:24:20 <kunguz> shirgall: the funny thing there is no iwlist or iwconfig or wpa_supplicant in the system :(
Jun 27 16:24:48 <shirgall> kunguz: sh, so naked ifconfig doesn't even show a wlan0 to manipulate?
Jun 27 16:25:16 <kunguz> shirgall: it does show an item called as lo
Jun 27 16:25:24 <shirgall> kunguz: that's loopback
Jun 27 16:25:52 <shirgall> kunguz: no eth0 either?
Jun 27 16:26:08 <kunguz> shirgall: it prompts that it found the wireless card during the installation but it could not connect to any wireless network that I gave so I skip the step
Jun 27 16:26:15 <kunguz> shirgall: sorry, nothing at all...
Jun 27 16:26:38 <kunguz> shirgall: with lsusb I can see the card as U.S. Robotics USR5423
Jun 27 16:26:41 <shirgall> kunguz: ok, the next place I'd loko is the contents of the file /etc/network/interfaces
Jun 27 16:27:17 <kunguz> shirgall: it only contains loopback network interface :(
Jun 27 16:27:24 <shirgall> kunguz: but, admittedly, if things were working automatically there'd be next to nothign in there
Jun 27 16:27:50 <shirgall> kunguz: can you "ifup wlan0"?
Jun 27 16:27:56 <kunguz> shirgall: let me see
Jun 27 16:28:22 <kunguz> shirgall: Ignoring unknow interface wlan0=wlan0 :(
Jun 27 16:28:28 <shirgall> rats
Jun 27 16:28:46 <shirgall> try ifup -a
Jun 27 16:29:05 <kunguz> shirgall: do you have any suggestion as a distro to use with my beagleboard?
Jun 27 16:29:26 <kunguz> shirgall: it returns nothing, went down to the newline
Jun 27 16:29:39 <shirgall> kunguz: I am testing the Ubuntu Oneiric alpha, but I'm not trying it headless
Jun 27 16:29:55 <shirgall> kunguz: and I'm using a pandaboard, not a beagleboard, but they are supposed to be pretty similar
Jun 27 16:30:32 <kunguz> shirgall: I want something light as a desktop, I want to work with lxde that's way I choose headless. After connecting the board to the internet, I will install lxde as a desktop
Jun 27 16:30:41 <kunguz> but failed with connecting it to the internet
Jun 27 16:31:48 <kunguz> shirgall: should I install it from the top?
Jun 27 16:31:49 <shirgall> kunguz: yeah, sorry, I don't have any other tricks handy at the moment, and I'm going into a meeting
Jun 27 16:32:01 <kunguz> shirgall: thanks for your time, you are the best.
Jun 27 16:32:16 <shirgall> kunguz: I did install it fresh, but that's something I can do because I have a spare sdcard. :)
Jun 27 16:32:23 <ogra_> kunguz, is that oneiric or natty ?
Jun 27 16:32:25 <shirgall> kunguz: you're welcome, I'll check in again later
Jun 27 16:32:28 <kunguz> ogra_: natty
Jun 27 16:32:36 <ogra_> hmm, should just work
Jun 27 16:32:45 <ogra_> oneiric has issues with USB currently
Jun 27 16:33:00 <ogra_> so you wouldnt see any usb devices on beagle there
Jun 27 16:33:06 <ogra_> natty should just work though
Jun 27 16:33:18 <kunguz> ogra_: so if I connect the usb adapter, it should be automatically seen under ifconfig, right?
Jun 27 16:33:57 <kunguz> ogra_: or do I need anything to configure it?
Jun 27 16:34:04 <ogra_> at least you should see it in dmesg
Jun 27 16:34:11 <ogra_> on headless ?
Jun 27 16:34:12 <ogra_> sure
Jun 27 16:34:22 <kunguz> ogra_: yes
Jun 27 16:34:27 <ogra_> headless is a developer image, you have to do everything manually
Jun 27 16:34:49 <kunguz> ogra_: in dmesg I can see a line ieee80211 phy1: Selected rate congrol algorithm 'minstre_ht'
Jun 27 16:35:00 <ogra_> i mean if you plug it in
Jun 27 16:35:07 <kunguz> ogra_: it does seem as recognised but there is nothing under ifconfig
Jun 27 16:35:11 <lilstevie> when is ubuntu going to start transitioning from xorg to wayland
Jun 27 16:35:21 <ogra_> lilstevie, once its ready
Jun 27 16:35:30 <lilstevie> ogra_: heh
Jun 27 16:35:31 <ogra_> surely not before next LTS by default
Jun 27 16:35:39 <kunguz> ogra_: so what should I do to make it visible under ifconfig?
Jun 27 16:35:46 <lilstevie> as an option?
Jun 27 16:36:17 <ogra_> kunguz, well, it should just show up ... if you see the device appear in dmesg right after yu plugged it in
Jun 27 16:36:45 <kunguz> ogra_: it is seen there, I mean under dmesg, but unfortunately there is nothing under ifconfig :(
Jun 27 16:37:03 <ogra_> cat /proc/net/dev
Jun 27 16:37:11 <ogra_> does that show anything beyond lo ?
Jun 27 16:37:21 <kunguz> ogra_: it does show wlan0
Jun 27 16:37:27 <kunguz> as a second line
Jun 27 16:37:51 <ogra_> what kind of chipset is in that card ?
Jun 27 16:38:00 <ogra_> might be that you miss firmware or some such
Jun 27 16:38:20 <kunguz> ogra_: it is U.S. Robotics USR5423 802.11bg device
Jun 27 16:38:25 <kunguz> ogra_: connected via USB
Jun 27 16:39:37 <kunguz> ogra_: isn't it wierd that there is no iwlist and wpasupplicant installed in the system?
Jun 27 16:46:04 <kunguz> ogra_: I think I found the reason
Jun 27 16:46:54 <kunguz> ogra_: /etc/network/interfaces has to be configured in a right manner, that's why I couldn't see wlan0 under ifconfig. Now I am able to see it
Jun 27 16:47:12 <kunguz> ogra_: I will try to connect to some open SSID without password
Jun 27 16:52:46 <kunguz> does anyone have a sample /etc/network/interfaces file to connect to a no password ESID
Jun 27 17:00:47 <kunguz> this is like a nightmare, does anyone know how to configure wlan0 to connect to some open ESSID?
Jun 27 17:00:54 <kunguz> sample would help a lot
Jun 27 17:04:50 <kunguz> auto wlan0
Jun 27 17:04:51 <kunguz> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
Jun 27 17:04:58 <kunguz> these are the two lines that I used
Jun 27 17:05:11 <NewbieToKernel> sorry @lilstevie and @ogra_ was away for a while... so if i want to add support for say "camera" or "GPS" or say "accelerometer" to ubuntu on arm then first i'd have to write a driver on the kernel and then expose it to user space. This is one way to do it. but what if i have a modified kernel with all these drivers in place , but the only way to access these in user space is through a
Jun 27 17:05:12 <NewbieToKernel> proprietary hardware abstraction interface? I want to write a mapping layer from ubuntu to this proprietary hardware interface
Jun 27 17:05:24 <kunguz> when I call sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart , it hangs...
Jun 27 17:06:59 <NewbieToKernel> so for that i think the only way is to rebuild ubuntu from souces after incorporating my changes ... do you think it can be done in any other way?
Jun 27 17:09:04 <ogra_> better write a proper driver then :)
Jun 27 17:09:30 <ogra_> "rebuild ubuntu from source" ??
Jun 27 17:09:36 <ogra_> what does that mean ?
Jun 27 17:10:04 <NewbieToKernel> what i mean is build ubuntu for arm target
Jun 27 17:10:23 <ogra_> that has already happened
Jun 27 17:10:34 <ogra_> what do you want to rebuild ?
Jun 27 17:10:53 <NewbieToKernel> but what what if i want to change it
Jun 27 17:11:23 <NewbieToKernel> to incorporate hardware changes
Jun 27 17:11:44 <ogra_> then you have to write a kernel driver
Jun 27 17:11:50 <NewbieToKernel> basically i dont want to touch the existing drivers
Jun 27 17:12:19 <NewbieToKernel> kernel drivers are already there for android
Jun 27 17:12:37 <NewbieToKernel> i want them to work with with ubuntu as well
Jun 27 17:14:06 <Gelmi> does anybody know if the card resize problem during Ubuntu 11.04 instalation (following I/O errors) has been fixed yet (Panda Board Rev. A2)?
Jun 27 17:15:13 <kunguz> is there any network manager that I can use in ubuntu-arm headless?
Jun 27 17:16:26 <NewbieToKernel> i saw some videos of ubuntu on nexus 1.... ubuntu seemed to run with a lot of lag.... so i'm assuming stuff like codecs and open gl must still be in software... i want to optimize it to interact with hardware
Jun 27 17:18:13 <kunguz> guys, please I need help; I couldn't connect my beagleboard to internet
Jun 27 17:18:18 <kunguz> I am really stuck
Jun 27 17:18:38 <kunguz> at least some suggestion would do fine
Jun 27 17:22:15 <kunguz> ogra_: may I ask for your help?
Jun 27 17:27:03 <kunguz> guys please :(
Jun 27 17:27:11 <kunguz> Please help me
Jun 27 17:34:02 <kunguz> that's the spirit of open source
Jun 27 17:51:45 <sveinse> In a debian world, how should changes to /etc files be handled? I mean, I am putting together a complete machine, and to suit some kernel/HW needs, some changes needs to be made into /etc/pulse/default.pa. However I cannot create a .deb file with those changes as files are already registered in the pulseaudio package. Does this imply that I must rebuild a special version of pulseaudio to my...
Jun 27 17:51:47 <sveinse> ...system to accommodate these changes?
Jun 27 17:54:55 <lag> kunguz: You are asking for help from someone who's working day finished 2hrs ago
Jun 27 17:56:40 <kunguz> lag: thank you for the reply.
Jun 27 17:57:11 <lag> sveinse: I thought the whole idea of a separate profile config file was that you wouldn't have to re-build
Jun 27 17:59:17 <sveinse> lag: "profile config"? Without having checked, I am pretty certain the /etc/pulse/* files are marked as config files in its deb package, so changes are allowed. But not two packages can own the same config file
Jun 27 18:07:42 <lag> sveinse: diwic is your man, he'll be back on tomorrow morning
Jun 27 18:08:37 <ogra_> lag, why hanvent i seen you around yet ?
Jun 27 18:08:42 <lag> sveinse: In the meantime perhaps you can find something of interest here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
Jun 27 18:08:49 <lag> ogra_: Yet?
Jun 27 18:08:54 <lag> ogra_: You mean in Dublin?
Jun 27 18:09:00 <ogra_> in dublin
Jun 27 18:09:00 <ogra_> oh
Jun 27 18:09:00 <ogra_> heh
Jun 27 18:09:04 * ogra_ forgot
Jun 27 18:09:08 <lag> 'cos I'm not coming ;)
Jun 27 18:09:12 <ogra_> #yeah
Jun 27 18:09:21 <ogra_> well, at least i'll come to your sprint
Jun 27 18:09:31 <lag> Linaro Platform Sprint is in ~1 month
Jun 27 18:09:38 <ogra_> yep
Jun 27 18:09:39 <lag> ogra_: You are? Great!
Jun 27 18:09:42 <ogra_> i'll be there
Jun 27 18:09:55 <lag> I'll look forward to it
Jun 27 18:09:59 <ogra_> :)
Jun 27 18:10:14 <lag> I would have liked to come to Dublin, but it is a very busy time for me
Jun 27 18:10:25 <ogra_> snowball ?
Jun 27 18:10:27 <lag> New project just started
Jun 27 18:10:32 <lag> Yeah, Android
Jun 27 18:11:13 <lag> Why aren't you in the bar?
Jun 27 18:11:48 <ogra_> i just finished up some stuff ... on my way ;)
Jun 27 18:12:02 <ogra_> ... and out :)
Jun 27 18:13:13 <lag> ogra_: ;)
Jun 27 18:13:43 <NewbieToKernel> hi ogra_
Jun 27 18:13:55 <NewbieToKernel> i guess you were away
Jun 27 18:13:59 <NewbieToKernel>  i saw some videos of ubuntu on nexus 1.... ubuntu seemed to run with a lot of lag.... so i'm assuming stuff like codecs and open gl must still be in software... i want to optimize it to interact with hardware
Jun 27 18:13:59 <sveinse> lag, my problem is not specifically related to pulseaudio, but it's _one_ example. But I got your message
Jun 27 18:15:26 <sveinse> I can install post installation modification scripts to do my changes within /etc, but it feels so... hackish.
Jun 27 18:16:18 <lag> sveinse: There are lots of useful wiki pages on the Ubuntu website and a great deal of information on the web about all this stuff. I'd say if you can't find your answer by the end of play tonight that people might be ready, willing and able to help you out tomorrow. Most people who usually help out here are on Sprint in Dublin (and most likely in the bar at the moment). :)
Jun 27 18:16:53 <sveinse> heh.. Let them enjoy their time. Thanks
Jun 27 18:16:58 <lag> :)
Jun 27 18:17:22 <lag> If you can't find anyone to help you, ping me tomorrow and I'll be more than happy to point you in the direction of someone who can
Jun 27 20:29:16 <MrCurious> persia: if i wanted to follow a bug relating to usb speed on pandaboard under ubuntu, do you know where i would look to follow the discussion?
Jun 27 21:13:31 <MrCurious> does anyone know if ubunto 10 on pandaboard has the usb speed issue that 11 has?
Jun 27 21:22:51 <kunguz> can anyone explain me how to connect to wireless network with ubuntu-arm headless image?
Jun 27 21:24:07 <sveinse> persia: Are you in Dublin as well?
Jun 27 21:25:16 <sveinse> If not: a short Q: Would you say running qemu-debootstrap is better/safer than running rootstock? (And I am aware of the extra bits rootstock is doing to the image)
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Jun 28 01:55:40 <MrCurious_> has anyone compared usb speed on ubuntu10.10 and 11.04? on pandaboard?
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