**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 02 02:59:57 2011 Jul 02 13:14:06 Hey guys, is there any reason in particular that while trying to update my Ubuntu ARM installation it hangs on "Removing libappindicator0.1-cil from Mono"? Jul 02 14:02:28 Anyone know why apt hangs on "Removing libappindicator0.1-cil from Mono"? Jul 02 14:03:04 Are you sure it's hung, and not just taking a stupidly long time? Jul 02 14:03:32 But if it is, it's almost certainly not apt, but perhaps something executed in the prerm of that package Jul 02 14:03:58 I can't be certain, but it appears to be hung. Jul 02 14:04:06 How would I work out the issue? Jul 02 14:04:51 mono is using 99% cpu. Jul 02 14:05:20 and has been for about an hour. :/ Jul 02 14:05:38 RIght, so it's something mono-ish being called from the prerm of that package. Jul 02 14:06:03 If you're looking for the quick workaround, you can probably kill mono and just carry on. Jul 02 14:06:12 But it would be lovely if you filed a bug. Jul 02 14:06:40 ok, what do I need to supply for the bug report? Jul 02 14:06:46 It may not be reproducible, mind you. But if you file a bug and it's a one-off thing we and you can't reproduce, no big deal. If we can reproduce it, then we can figure out WTF happened. Jul 02 14:06:58 *hand wavy* Jul 02 14:07:28 Honestly, something like "while removing libappindicator0.1-cil, mono spins at 99% usage for an hour on armel" is probably enough for someone to try it out. Jul 02 14:08:13 fair enough. Jul 02 14:08:43 Others will claim you need to include the keys to your car and send your first born in the mail, but whatever. Bugs like this are near impossible to find if not reproducible, and if reproducible, we can get the info we need locall. Jul 02 14:08:47 locally, too. Jul 02 14:10:17 hmm. It seems to happen when installing assemblies to Mono, too. Jul 02 14:10:30 That's a larger problem, then. Jul 02 14:10:50 And we'd definitely want a bug. One where we might even ask for more info if we can't reproduce. :P Jul 02 14:13:25 Would it be a problem that I'm using it in an almost definitely unsupported manner? :P Jul 02 14:15:49 Perhaps. :P Jul 02 14:16:54 I've also heard that mono on ARM may have some "issues", but I've not personally looked into what those are just yet. Jul 02 14:17:21 Hm. Jul 02 14:17:48 I don't actually know what this library is a dependency for, but it's very likely it's not for anything I'm actually wanting to use on this system. Is there a way to force apt to just remove it? Jul 02 14:20:32 Well, you can just bypass the prerm by editing the offending line in /var/lib/dpkg/info/.prerm Jul 02 14:21:03 And the trying to remove it again. Jul 02 14:42:42 hmm. Jul 02 14:45:39 infinity: there doesn't seem to be much I can do, the script only does one thing, and that's the one thing that's hanging. Jul 02 14:52:26 Can I make dpkg just ignore that package? :x Jul 02 17:40:43 ticky: You can just no-nop the script (sorry, been travelling, spotty connectivity) Jul 02 17:40:56 ticky: no-op* Jul 02 19:19:39 Martyn: hi :) Jul 02 19:20:26 hey there armin **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 03 02:59:57 2011