**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 04 02:59:58 2011 Jul 04 07:01:00 I thought there was an SRU that fixed that: new kernel, new alsa-libs Jul 04 09:49:31 Hi all, I'm getting these errors when compiling hostapd: error: ?return? undeclared (first use in this function) Jul 04 09:49:53 Yesterday my pandaboard froze when I loaded a new wireless driver Jul 04 09:50:01 So I rebooted it and now I am getting compile errors Jul 04 09:50:45 So I think some file is corrupted Jul 04 09:52:21 look into this file Jul 04 09:52:30 if there really is ?return? Jul 04 09:55:42 The full line is: /usr/include/stdlib.h:281:3: error: ?return? undeclared (first use in this function) Jul 04 09:56:19 And that line reads: return strtod (__nptr, (char **) NULL); Jul 04 10:05:25 I wonder where the "?" comes from Jul 04 10:06:38 invisible chars ? Jul 04 10:07:33 invisible Jul 04 10:07:41 than is something wrong Jul 04 10:07:58 try to reinstal libc and libc-dev package Jul 04 10:08:05 with apt-get install --reinstall Jul 04 10:22:01 LBo, woglinde: the "?" looks like a locale issue in the error message. You can see whether that's the case by doing export LC_ALL=C and then building again. Jul 04 10:23:13 There is probably no ?return? in the source: it's just the compiler trying to print `return' Jul 04 10:23:58 dmart exactly Jul 04 10:24:15 I think the ?'s are because of my irc client Jul 04 10:24:37 So the error is: error: 'return' undeclared Jul 04 10:25:49 LBo: it sounds like you may be right: either the source or the toolchain may be damaged. Can you reproduce it with a simple test case (i.e., int f(void) { return 0; }) ? Jul 04 10:26:30 More likely though, some source or headers got corrupted... Jul 04 10:27:37 hello.c:7:1: error: ?return? undeclared (first use in this function) Jul 04 10:27:49 I just did an: sudo aptitude reinstall libc6 libc-dev-bin libc-bin libc6-dev Jul 04 10:27:57 But that doesn't make a difference Jul 04 10:28:52 markos__: generally, any instruction with an "f" in is an obsolete mnemonic -- either FPA, or old-style VFP mnemonics (the modern syntax starts all the VFP/NEON mnemonics the "V" instead of "F") Jul 04 10:29:16 oops, wrong channel again Jul 04 10:30:33 markos__: where does this actually come from? Jul 04 10:30:40 * dmart sighs Jul 04 10:31:36 :) Jul 04 10:37:51 *g* Jul 04 10:37:57 linaro channel? Jul 04 10:39:04 yep Jul 04 10:43:32 dmart: any ideas how I could fix this? Jul 04 10:44:36 LBo try to install new Jul 04 10:44:38 *sorry* Jul 04 10:52:53 LBo: If you can easily reinstall, that might be easiest ... otherwise, if something is corrupted it could be tricky to find out what needs reinstalling. Jul 04 10:53:24 Yeah, I'll do a little more searching and else I'm going to reinstall :( Jul 04 10:54:44 Yesssss Jul 04 10:54:48 sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc-dev-bin libc-bin libc6-dev cpp g++ gcc cpp-4.5 g++-4.5 gcc-4.5 worked Jul 04 10:56:10 LBo: cool... maybe a header file got mangled Jul 04 10:56:54 Yeah I had a few lockups in one hour and pulling the power on the pandaboard wasn't a good idea :s Jul 04 10:57:35 I'm gonna Google for a setting to flush to disk a little faster Jul 04 11:21:20 LBo, If you're not using a rotary disk, be aware that more frequent flushing can have considerable negative performance implications. Jul 04 11:21:47 Actually, I should say "cached disk" rather than "rotary disk", as many of the SSD implementations have decent caching implementations that mask the details from the kernel. Jul 04 11:21:55 That said, pulling power is almost never a safe operation :) Jul 04 11:21:57 Yeah I know but I only want to use it when I'm doing "dangerous" stuff Jul 04 12:25:23 I have installed lxde using apt-get install lxde command. Jul 04 12:25:37 But after the boot I end up with the terminal instead Jul 04 12:25:50 What to configure to reach to the desktop Jul 04 12:26:11 lookinto Xorg.log Jul 04 12:28:44 woglinde: let me paste my Xorg.log to pastebin Jul 04 12:33:28 woglinde: http://sudrap.org/paste/text/15555/ Jul 04 12:34:29 kunguz, you shjould have installed lubuntu-desktop instead, that also pulls in a display manager (i.e. GDM) Jul 04 12:34:44 ogra_: ok let me install it Jul 04 12:34:48 i dont think the lxde package depends on any display managers Jul 04 12:35:34 ogra_: install is in progress, hope this helps. Thank you very much for the suggestion. Jul 04 12:35:44 welcome Jul 04 12:35:50 it should work Jul 04 12:37:50 ogra_: interesting, it returns as E: Broken packages Jul 04 12:38:00 thats natty ? Jul 04 12:38:07 or oneiric ? Jul 04 12:38:08 ogra_: yes Jul 04 12:38:14 ogra_: natty, it is Jul 04 12:38:25 ogra_: I felt like Yoda :D Jul 04 12:38:30 weird, can you pastebin ? Jul 04 12:38:35 sure Jul 04 12:39:33 ogra_: http://sudrap.org/paste/text/15556/ Jul 04 12:49:38 kunguz, ugh Jul 04 12:49:51 kunguz, just install gdm then ... it should offer you lxde Jul 04 12:50:10 look like the lubuntu folks hardcode a dependency on chromium Jul 04 12:50:14 *looks Jul 04 12:59:28 Rather, the dependency on chromium is set based on metapackage construction, as the tasks aren't cleanly implemented yet. Jul 04 13:00:00 i guess its the latter, given thats natty Jul 04 13:00:22 iirc proper task generation for lubuntu is only in oneiric Jul 04 13:00:58 Did that get sorted? I remember gilir looking at it, but I didn't hear that it landed. Jul 04 13:01:23 i just saw an upload mentioning it on -changes Jul 04 13:01:31 didnt look into if it works or so Jul 04 13:01:39 Ah, excellent. Jul 04 13:02:01 shouldnt you be in the aiR btw ? Jul 04 13:02:13 Doesn't matter until the SAN is available, really, as that's the major blocker, and it's hard to test this stuff with neither documentation nor working infrastructure. Jul 04 13:02:46 * persia refuses to be limited in IRC activity by mere physical location or relative vector Jul 04 15:58:03 Does apt have a mechanism for deploying/distributing package update beside internet access? I need to be able to make a list of packages which a system needs and then distribute the update to the system using other means than network. Jul 04 15:58:53 I've tried apt-offline, but it uses a back and forth model where you'd have to transfer files to and from the system Jul 04 16:00:23 Installing the repo and/or packages on the system is not hard, but it's figuring which packages that should be included in the update Jul 04 17:02:47 hi all Jul 04 17:02:58 can anyone tell me is there any iic, spi or uart driver in ubuntu for expansion port in pandaboard ? Jul 04 19:41:31 Now, if only I could get 1080p on the D-Sub output on this Quickstart, I'd be happy. Jul 04 23:34:31 does anyone have a favorite version of ubuntu that works reasonably well on pandaboard? Jul 05 01:17:28 MrCurious: natty works fine on Panda. Jul 05 01:30:57 infinity: This thing is wonderfully designed. HDMI adaptor puts the cable exactly on top of the power/reset buttons. Jul 05 01:31:08 Quickstart, that is. Jul 05 01:38:56 GrueMaster: I'm no longer sad that I didn't spring for the HDMI module for mine. Jul 05 01:39:47 Meh. I have the power of remote control via serial relay (same power as Panda). Jul 05 01:40:21 * GrueMaster wishes he could figure out why there is a 1.5s lag in irc. Jul 05 01:40:54 Reconnect to a US server? Jul 05 01:41:05 It is. Always. Jul 05 01:41:12 (I think). Jul 05 01:41:20 You're on a Bulgarian server right now. Jul 05 01:41:48 hitchcock.freenode.net [Sofia, BG, EU] Jul 05 01:42:42 GrueMaster: You might want to use irc.us.freenode.net instead of irc.freenode.net (the latter includes EU in the round-robin) Jul 05 01:43:02 Switching. Jul 05 01:44:06 Better? Jul 05 01:45:11 Am I here? Jul 05 01:45:18 Am I here? Jul 05 01:45:24 Not sure. Jul 05 01:45:29 Gah. 2.5s lag. Jul 05 01:45:31 And this is a server in Corvallis, OR. Jul 05 01:45:45 Weird. I'm on the same server as you with 0 issues. Jul 05 01:45:57 Hunt down the torrenting kids? :) Jul 05 01:46:38 They're at the cost. Pandora is the only consumer here. dsl-modem showing low traffic. Jul 05 01:47:14 Whoa. desktop loadavg: 5.84. hrm. Jul 05 01:48:33 grrr. Firefox (Lucid). Jul 05 01:48:51 25% CPU. Jul 05 01:49:51 Must be Jenkins. This is going to be a fugly cycle. Jul 05 01:49:53 I blame flash. Jul 05 01:50:01 Or Jenkins, sure. ;) Jul 05 01:50:12 Nope. Not running flash. Jul 05 01:50:28 Even my server is feeling stressed. Jul 05 01:51:37 Sigh. Guess I will need to dedicate my spare core2duo w/ 4G ddr2-800 to Jenkins. It requires Natty anyways and most of my infrastructure here is LTS (Lucid). Jul 05 01:52:59 I do love that every time someone re-invents the CI wheel, they make it even less efficient in the name of elegance and/or abstraction. Jul 05 01:53:43 Cl wheel? Jul 05 01:54:00 CI. Continuous Integration. Jul 05 01:54:46 Hrm. Bandwidth is good. Not stellar, but 5.6M/750 isn't bad (with pandora running on my chumby). Jul 05 01:55:22 infinity : Heh.. yeah Jul 05 01:55:36 infinity : I deal with bamboo all the time at work .. Atlassian. It works, but it's clunky Jul 05 01:55:45 and it's support for git is very basic Jul 05 01:57:56 Quickstart seems to be drawing power from either my USB, ethernet, or hdmi. weird. Not enough to do anything, but enough to make the power LED glow. Jul 05 01:58:35 I just seem to be going backwards with CIs, as far as system overhead. Jul 05 01:59:05 Tinderbox (perl) -> Buildbot (python) -> Jenkins (java) Jul 05 01:59:28 Not that the implementation language means anything, but in this case, the systems seem to match the stereotypes usually leveled at people who use them. Jul 05 01:59:47 Buildbot is horrible Jul 05 02:00:01 The sooner I have to stop caring about it, the better Jul 05 02:00:27 Tinderbox is simple, gets the job done, quick. Buildbot is a bit more modular, a bit more complex, reasonably quick about it. Jenkins is massively complex, and... Everything that goes with it. Jul 05 02:00:54 Personally, I don't care what it is running, as long as it WORKS. Jul 05 02:00:57 StevenK: I despised buildbot as a tinderbox replacement, but it kinda does the job. And doesn't bring machines to its knees just by existing. Jul 05 02:01:23 steven@hudson:~$ uptime Jul 05 02:01:24 01:57:36 up 311 days, 7:04, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Jul 05 02:01:29 My Jenkins VPS ^ Jul 05 02:01:46 StevenK: "bring to knees" doesn't always imply downtime. :P Jul 05 02:01:54 No, it implies heavy load Jul 05 02:02:02 Is it doing anything at all currently? Jul 05 02:02:14 Sure, it uses slaves to do the building :-) Jul 05 02:02:21 I dunno. I've not used it locally, to be fair. Just heard horror stories from others about CPUs spinning out of control. Jul 05 02:02:36 infinity: https://lpci.wedontsleep.org/ if you care Jul 05 02:02:47 I understand you may not :-) Jul 05 02:03:14 I'll care when someone tells me I have to care about it. Jul 05 02:03:42 Haha Jul 05 02:03:59 Next you'll tell me I don't count. Jul 05 02:04:25 You count when you send me large bags of money. Jul 05 02:04:35 Nice. Now to figure out how to use it on my panda farm. Jul 05 02:04:41 s/money/Australian lamb/ ? Jul 05 02:05:19 Money doesn't spoil in the mail. Jul 05 02:05:48 That's a solvable problem Jul 05 02:18:22 possible recursive locking detected? anyone encounter the same problem on pandaboard? Jul 05 02:18:40 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/429588/ Jul 05 02:18:54 I have problem to use pvr driver Jul 05 02:21:15 I'm using http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/l/linux-ti-omap4/linux-ti-omap4_2.6.38-1208.11.tar.gz Jul 05 02:23:53 Openfree`: Try using our toolchain too... Jul 05 02:25:36 Openfree`: No guarantees (in fact, it's pretty unlikely) that Gentoo's 4.5.2 contains all the fixes from recent upstream, Debian, Ubuntu, and Linaro GCC 4.6.x Jul 05 02:25:43 Openfree`: (Same argument goes for binutils) Jul 05 02:34:08 infinity, so ,you suggest use GCC 4.6.x? it would be to use ubuntu toolchain for gentoo user, you know... so I would like to know which patches I may need, or just upgrade Jul 05 02:35:42 Openfree`: I'd suggest using either Oneiric's toolchain or Linaro's (both GCC and binutils), yes. I wouldn't be the man to ask to dissect which patches you might need on top of an upstream checkout. Jul 05 02:37:45 infinity, but looking at the log, it shouldn't be the problem of toolchain side.. well I will try 2.6.38-1309.13, then see what happens Jul 05 02:37:55 infinity, anyway, thanks for your help Jul 05 02:39:35 Ok, I will try to ask at #linaro, see if any helps **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 05 02:59:57 2011