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Jul 19 03:02:59 <jeramee> seems my processor is running ARMv5 any suggestions on what to install on it
Jul 19 03:04:20 <persia> Debian.
Jul 19 06:53:11 <rsalveti> janimo: bug 812381 and bug 812110 are sync requests to fix arm ftbfs on ubuntu
Jul 19 06:53:11 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 812381 in qutecom "Sync qutecom 2.2.1+dfsg1-1 (universe) from Debian sid (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812381
Jul 19 06:53:12 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 812110 in klatexformula "Sync klatexformula 3.2.4-1 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812110
Jul 19 06:53:34 <janimo> rsalveti, I have no syncing powers
Jul 19 06:54:04 <rsalveti> so need to wait an archive admin I believe
Jul 19 06:54:22 <janimo> rsalveti, right, I think it happens daily as there are several adimns shifting
Jul 19 09:53:48 <Spider-Pork> i would to get ubuntu on my gumstix overo fire. Is there a prebuild image?
Jul 19 10:13:38 <infinity> rsalveti: Done and done.
Jul 19 10:28:49 <rsalveti> infinity: great, thanks
Jul 19 11:01:12 <jojo11> hey does anyone know if hardware encoders on BeagleBoard-xM are usable unlike the ones on PandaBoard
Jul 19 13:13:41 <siji> persia, ping
Jul 19 13:14:42 <mahmoh> if I swap out my SD on my panda, is there a way to rescan it like a scsi disk?
Jul 19 13:40:24 <ppisati> have anyone used strace to trace a running process?
Jul 19 14:44:16 <furibondox> hi guys
Jul 19 15:58:50 <mahmoh> where was that bug about USB IO and pinging the ethernet, didn't that get fixed, persia, GrueMaster?  I remember talking about it but I cannot find the bug in question
Jul 19 16:01:32 <GrueMaster> I'm not seeing anything in LP.  I think I read about it on the pandaboard mailing list.
Jul 19 16:03:36 <mahmoh> we were talking about it last week I think
Jul 19 16:16:41 <GrueMaster> mahmoh: http://jeffbastian.blogspot.com/2011/06/storage-speed-on-pandaboard-revisited.html
Jul 19 16:19:36 <GrueMaster> mahmoh: Have you tested this recently?  If not, I'll do a quick spot check to see if the problem exists in 1309.14 and file a bug accordingly.
Jul 19 16:39:41 <prpplague> GrueMaster: it appears to still be present 3.0-rc
Jul 19 16:40:08 <GrueMaster> great.
Jul 19 16:41:20 <prpplague> GrueMaster: it doesn't appear to be  lan9514 related
Jul 19 16:41:24 <GrueMaster> I'm going to file a bug in our tracker so that we can keep abreast of it.  I'm rerunning jeff bastian's benchmark tests to attach to the bug report for our kernel team.
Jul 19 16:41:45 <prpplague> GrueMaster: please detail how you run the test so that i can run them as well
Jul 19 16:41:48 <GrueMaster> Has anyone filed a bug upstream?
Jul 19 16:42:05 <prpplague> GrueMaster: mrcurious has been following the issue
Jul 19 16:42:09 <GrueMaster> Yep.
Jul 19 16:42:12 <GrueMaster> It will be in the bug report.
Jul 19 16:42:21 <prpplague> GrueMaster: i'll check with him when he is back on irc
Jul 19 16:43:54 <GrueMaster> I'll also try to fire up a Maverick install and copy it to a usb drive to see if it exists there as well.  If we can isolate it to a release, we can debug it more readily (in theory).
Jul 19 16:45:57 <GrueMaster> prpplague: Do you remember the kernel cmdline for setting mac address?  I have a couple of pandas (A1 & EA1) that share the same die id (thus the same mac).
Jul 19 16:46:13 <GrueMaster> Save me having to google for it.
Jul 19 16:46:36 <prpplague> GrueMaster: i dont believe upatched kernel support the mac argument
Jul 19 16:46:51 <prpplague> GrueMaster: think you have to apply a patch for it
Jul 19 16:47:03 <prpplague> GrueMaster: check with robclark , he normally has a good patchset for ti
Jul 19 16:47:04 <prpplague> it
Jul 19 16:47:28 <GrueMaster> It is in the natty kernel already.
Jul 19 16:47:43 <GrueMaster> I'll just look it up.
Jul 19 16:48:19 <ppisati> guys, besides janimo, anyone else can test the new ti-omap4 kernel? it's here: http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/ti-omap4-next/
Jul 19 16:49:12 <GrueMaster> ppisati: Are you aware of this performance bug with USB drives & having to ping the ethernet port?
Jul 19 16:49:34 <ppisati> GrueMaster: heard about it long ago
Jul 19 16:49:40 <ppisati> GrueMaster: still there?
Jul 19 16:49:47 <ppisati> GrueMaster: care to try the new kernel?
Jul 19 16:50:21 <GrueMaster> Apparently.  I am trying the 1309.14 kernel on oneiric now.  As soon as I finish the comparison there, I can.
Jul 19 16:50:36 <ppisati> cool
Jul 19 16:51:00 <ppisati> i tried to fix an audio bug today, but it seems it's a pulseaudio problem
Jul 19 16:51:10 <ppisati> so i won't wait anymore, tomorrow i'll push it
Jul 19 16:51:54 <GrueMaster> ok
Jul 19 16:52:30 <prpplague> GrueMaster: btw, i haven't confirmed it myself, but i was told that the issue presents itself on omap3 boards as well as on some arm9 based boards
Jul 19 16:53:31 <GrueMaster> prpplague: If I get around to it, I can try it on an XM.  It would be interesting to see if it is also present on a beagle C4.
Jul 19 16:53:52 <GrueMaster> sigh.  So many tests, so little time.
Jul 19 17:22:12 <mahmoh> GrueMaster: I think this is the bug on the ping problem - bug 709245
Jul 19 17:22:13 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 709245 in linux-linaro "panda: USB disk IO slow" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709245
Jul 19 17:24:13 <GrueMaster> interesting.
Jul 19 17:32:00 <mahmoh> ppisati: you need that kernel tested, what are the fixes that you're looking to verify?
Jul 19 17:43:38 <mahmoh> GrueMaster: 1309-14 - 0.2 MB/s vs. 4.0 MB/s w/ ping flood - the problem still exists, I would say this is higher than Medium too
Jul 19 17:49:10 <GrueMaster> mahmoh: What are you running to produce these results?  We need to document them so that they are reproducible (which I am doing now and will add to the bug report).
Jul 19 17:49:43 <mahmoh> pts/tiobench
Jul 19 17:50:03 <mahmoh> I'm adding a comment to the original bug, and asking to raise the priority too
Jul 19 17:50:58 <GrueMaster> Let me know when you have it filed.  I can raise priority and do other bug triage stuff from there.
Jul 19 18:02:41 <mahmoh> GrueMaster: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux-linaro/+bug/709245/comments/6
Jul 19 18:02:41 <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 709245 in linux-linaro "panda: USB disk IO slow" [Medium,Confirmed]
Jul 19 18:15:02 <Guest48215> Hi all, I am working with pandaboard trying to get a video conferencing application to be built on it
Jul 19 18:15:10 <Guest48215> I am using ubuntu 10.10 as the 11.04 doesn't seem to contain hardware codecs
Jul 19 18:15:22 <Guest48215> I see the panda board to have HDMI and DVI dual display capability
Jul 19 18:15:31 <Guest48215> It seems like ubuntu 10.10 does NOT support dual display but the ubuntu 11.04 seems to have support...
Jul 19 18:15:38 <Guest48215> Can I get pointer to the dual display patch which I can back port to ubuntu 10.10?
Jul 19 18:15:45 <Guest48215> Please correct me if I am wrong in my assumptions
Jul 19 18:28:37 <GrueMaster> mahmoh: If you test with the new kernel, use my test as it is quicker to setup and runs faster.
Jul 19 18:29:00 <mahmoh> GrueMaster: which test?  I'm testing the new kernel now
Jul 19 18:29:00 <GrueMaster> See comment 7 in the above bug.
Jul 19 18:30:14 <GrueMaster> I also added the linux-ti-omap4 kernel to the bug.  If you reproduce it on the 3.0 kernel let me know so I can add it as well.
Jul 19 18:32:52 <mahmoh> GrueMaster: yeah, the results appear to be the same on the 3.0.0-1 kernel
Jul 19 18:35:32 <GrueMaster> Can you post benchmarks on the new kernel?
Jul 19 20:01:00 <mahmoh> yes I can but it appears that they are the same a with the 2.6 kernel, no change in IO perf.
Jul 19 20:06:17 <GrueMaster> ok
Jul 19 20:06:41 <GrueMaster> Just note in the bug that you tried that kernel and I will add it to the top of the bug report.
Jul 19 20:23:26 <GrueMaster> mahmoh: Check out http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/arm/2011-June/001412.html
Jul 19 20:36:51 <mahmoh> yep, makes sense
Jul 19 21:08:50 <mahmoh> so the 3.0.0-1 kernel looks ok - boots, runs IO performance fine - I'm running three boards with it and haven't seen any major issues as of yet
Jul 19 21:12:55 <GrueMaster> Still has the USB performance issue though, right?
Jul 19 21:44:27 <martyn> The performance of AoE is just POO on arm
Jul 19 21:48:36 <GrueMaster> martyn: what are you testing with?
Jul 19 22:19:28 <persia> Bug 709245
Jul 19 22:19:29 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 709245 in linux-ti-omap4 "panda: USB disk IO slow" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709245
Jul 19 22:19:53 <GrueMaster> persia: ??
Jul 19 22:21:42 <persia> GrueMaster, Got a ping asking for a bug number in backscroll.  Wanted to verify the bug.  Seems like you found it already, looking at more backscroll.
Jul 19 22:22:20 <GrueMaster> I'm currently testing to see if it affects Maverick as well.
Jul 19 22:23:02 <persia> That's a neat idea.  Maybe it was introduced at some point, rather than being always present.
Jul 19 22:23:29 <GrueMaster> I hope so.  Might make it easier to backtrack.
Jul 19 22:25:04 <persia> Indeed.  If it was introduced, we can bisect it to the source.
Jul 19 22:25:29 <persia> If it is a bug in the initial implementation, there's no guide to the specific code to be fixed.
Jul 19 22:25:57 <Jack87|Away> anyone consider ubuntu arm on HP touchpad?
Jul 19 22:26:47 <GrueMaster> Jack87|Away: What hardware does it have?
Jul 19 22:27:15 <Jack87|Away> its a snapdargon not omap.
Jul 19 22:27:46 <persia> Ought work, but someone needs to upload a kernel, as there are none supporting snapdragon in the archive.
Jul 19 22:28:07 <Jack87|Away> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/14077_na/14077_na.pdf
Jul 19 22:28:45 <Jack87|Away> by the way... they got xserver running as an app.
Jul 19 22:33:05 <Jack87|Away> GrueMaster, check this out... http://yfrog.com/h0galnp
Jul 19 22:34:09 <Jack87|Away> those desktop enviorments are an xapp runnin within the touchpad
Jul 19 22:34:57 <GrueMaster> Cool.
Jul 19 22:35:18 <Jack87|Away> you can see in card view :). I was just wondering if anyone has taken intrest in the device here
Jul 19 22:36:33 <GrueMaster> I've been too swamped, and I have a Nook Color to get running ubuntu if/when I can get some spare cycles.
Jul 19 22:39:49 <Jack87|Away> GrueMaster, hehe me to.
Jul 19 22:58:45 <GrueMaster> Interesting resutls of testing bug 709245 on Maverick.  Not sure that I am doing this right.
Jul 19 22:58:46 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 709245 in linux-ti-omap4 "panda: USB disk IO slow" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709245
Jul 19 23:21:34 <mahmoh> yes, 3.0.0-1 did not change the USB performance/ping issue
Jul 19 23:23:09 <Neko> I think it's down to the hub chip in use
Jul 19 23:23:23 <Neko> I suggested someone kick around the enhanced TT scheduler and turbo mode on the usb ethernet and it got ignored
Jul 19 23:23:50 <Neko> because it has to be some kind of bug in the omap4, apparently.. and nothing to do with kernel options
Jul 19 23:25:24 <mahmoh> if someone wants to put in the time, I'll test it for sure
Jul 19 23:26:23 <mahmoh> persia: I thought we discussed the USB/ping problem before and someone mentioned that it was fixed in a later kernel - guess not?
Jul 19 23:27:44 <infinity> mahmoh: Probably confusion about USB issues.  We had an issue with no USB at all, that's fixed.
Jul 19 23:29:45 <mahmoh> it's possible
Jul 20 00:11:29 <GrueMaster> mahmoh: If you read the pandaboard emails, someone got that confused with the GCC-4.6 usb ehci bug.
Jul 20 00:12:05 <GrueMaster> At any rate, this bug is well documented in LP now.
Jul 20 00:15:00 <GrueMaster> mahmoh: If you have a usb stick & usb drive attatched, can you see how it performs when you have some constant i/o in the background of one while doing benchmarks to the other?  I'm thinking something like "while (1);do dd if=/dev/zero of=<mount point to usb stick> bs=4M count=10;done"
Jul 20 00:49:50 <mahmoh> GrueMaster: I do and I'm sure it'll work but I can try it if you're really curious to find out ;)
Jul 20 00:50:37 <GrueMaster> No, We really should get back to focusing on server tests.
Jul 20 00:51:04 <mahmoh> agreed
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