**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 01 02:59:57 2011 Aug 01 07:31:19 GrueMaster, ok, wifi works for me too now on panda/headless. network-manager was interfering with ifup, that's why it was behaving erratically Aug 01 10:53:17 persia, hi Aug 01 11:10:25 Hi All Aug 01 12:24:56 t Aug 01 13:12:30 persia, Aug 01 13:12:44 u there? Aug 01 13:13:40 friends, am trying to make, autostart fro xbmc with ubuntu LXDE Aug 01 13:13:59 And it's starts working but keyboard and mouse is not working Aug 01 13:15:13 i have added xbmc entry at /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart Aug 01 13:15:29 So any idea why the mouse and keyboard is not working ? Aug 01 13:54:40 Hello, i have installed the natty image on my sd card and now i want to build a new kernel. i found the linux-headers in the folder /usr/src, but i need the linux-source too ? is this right ? someone can help me ? it is the first time that i build a kernel Aug 01 13:59:32 lot of things are missing ... Aug 01 14:00:23 you can build kernel from your host pc Aug 01 14:02:02 r0xx, which processor /board you are using ? Aug 01 14:02:16 why you want to build the kernel from source ? Aug 01 14:02:58 yes this is my idear, i want to download the files to my beagle, after that copy the files to my host pc, cross compile a new kernel and copy the uImage to the SD-Card. Aug 01 14:03:10 im using the beagleboard xm (rev. A) Aug 01 14:03:57 i want to build a new kernel, because i want to deactivate the kernel pinmux, i made the pin changes in the bootloader Aug 01 14:05:12 ugh Aug 01 14:06:15 in any case if you want to recompile the omap3 kernel, just do: apt-get source linux; sudo apt-get build-dep linux Aug 01 14:06:37 omap3 is built from the linux package Aug 01 14:09:24 ogra: do you mean "sudo apt-get install linux-source" to get the sources ? Aug 01 14:15:46 or can i build a new kernel with the "linux-headers-2.6.38-8-omap" and "linux-headers-2.6.38-8" ? Aug 01 14:24:44 i want to use the old config file to build the kernel and only change the OMAP multiplexing support there, because i made the pinmux changes in the bootloader Aug 01 14:45:58 someone can help me with compiling a kernel for the beagleboard xm (rev.A) ? i only want to deactivate the OMAP multiplexing support, because i made this changes in the boot loader Aug 01 15:32:42 GrueMaster: bug 656410, if it's timer and not USB related I'm tending to think it's critical - needs a major push from where it is, what do you think? Aug 01 15:32:43 Launchpad bug 656410 in launchpad "connection not closed with time-out" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656410 Aug 01 15:37:07 mahmoh: What??? That is a firefox/launchpad bug. Aug 01 15:38:08 GrueMaster: let's try again ;) bug 709245 Aug 01 15:38:09 Launchpad bug 709245 in linux-ti-omap4 "panda: USB disk IO slow" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709245 Aug 01 15:41:28 mahmoh: By the nature of Arm, we cannot mark them as critical (yet). https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance "Critical: A bug which has a severe impact on a large portion of Ubuntu users." Aug 01 15:42:14 GrueMaster: oh, good point Aug 01 15:42:32 should be high (as it is) Aug 01 15:43:06 GrueMaster: so is there a way to get more focus on this? I can't tell if it's actively being worked or not Aug 01 15:43:18 critical would be rather arch independent ... i.e. "udev formats your / if it finds it ..." Aug 01 15:43:44 Yea, something like that may be bad. Aug 01 15:43:48 its actively being researched since three releases Aug 01 15:44:15 so dont expect quick solutions here ... it has been filed late though Aug 01 15:45:15 mahmoh: It may not be getting that much attention here, but It is getting a large amount of eyes looking at the issues from other groups (Android, Fedora, #pandaboard, etc). Aug 01 15:45:50 It appears to be more widespread than just Ubuntu on Omap4. Aug 01 15:46:05 yeah Aug 01 15:46:31 well, I'm guessing it's going to something that's going to hurt us soon if we don't find a fix, just want to ensure it has the right eyes on it like davidm or NCommander's Aug 01 15:47:59 mahmoh: It has top engineers at TI looking at it. And yes, davidm & NCommander are both monitoring it as well (but since neither are kernel developers...) Aug 01 15:48:45 mahmoh, its a longstanding problem with the panda, dont worry Aug 01 15:49:14 The bug is filed. At this point, the best you and I can do is monitor the bug for additional changes, and document any new findings we may come across. Aug 01 15:49:16 mahmoh, Andy Green from Linaro TI Landing team is well aware and we are escalating to TI this week Aug 01 15:49:19 it's not just the panda and not just USB Aug 01 15:49:37 But it is beginning to look like a hardware issue :-/ Aug 01 15:49:45 it Aug 01 15:49:47 davidm: thx Aug 01 15:50:03 is is a chip used on Pandaboards and Beagleboards Aug 01 15:50:44 mahmoh, what else is "it" beyond panda ? Aug 01 15:51:04 did you see it on non-TI hardware ? Aug 01 15:51:16 ^^^ Aug 01 15:52:25 ogra_: I have seen others mention the issue on the nVidia Tegra2 Dev platform. Aug 01 15:52:37 Not confirmed, but mentioned. Aug 01 15:53:03 not yet but it's definitely omap, originally thought only to be USB, not more, concerned it may be ARM/Kernel related but have no idea Aug 01 15:53:05 It is believed to be an issue with the SMC USB hub. Aug 01 15:53:07 intresting Aug 01 15:53:43 i cant see any issues with the ac100 (that doesnt say anything about other tegras with other peripherials indeed) Aug 01 15:54:07 I have good speed USB on the transformer Aug 01 15:54:18 GrueMaster: does anyone here have this tegra dev platform to verify? Aug 01 15:54:35 does anyone here have this tegra dev platform to verify? Aug 01 15:54:46 janimo: thanks Aug 01 15:55:03 Not me. I have a different tegra dev board but haven't set it up for testing. Aug 01 15:55:17 But I doubt mine has this issue. Aug 01 16:14:59 GrueMaster: it might be interesting to double check if you had time, I don't think you do Aug 01 16:15:37 I don't this week. Release testing and last minute push to finish work items for A3. Aug 01 16:15:56 well, who cares about dev boards anyway, as long as the production devices dont expose the issue ;) Aug 01 16:16:22 (which they apparently dont, at least for two devices) Aug 01 16:16:31 ogra_: Not a whole lot of production systems with the necessary hardware to test. Aug 01 16:16:52 there are tens of tegra based production devices out there ;( Aug 01 16:16:54 err Aug 01 16:16:55 ;) Aug 01 16:17:29 And how many of those have both USB & ethernet on the same hub device? Aug 01 16:17:34 and for two we have verified it doesnt occur Aug 01 16:17:41 ?? Aug 01 16:18:10 did you read the recent comments on the bug ? Aug 01 16:18:28 its very likely its not usb related at all Aug 01 16:19:12 and tbh dev devices are not as important as making sure that consumer devices are fine Aug 01 16:19:14 since also Sd cards are significantly slower than on other systems Aug 01 16:20:06 i would love to get a rooted playbook in my hands to actually test omap4 on a production device with our images :O Aug 01 16:20:11 running from sd was hell slow on my class 2 card fir the transformer Aug 01 16:20:20 but you dont get rooted playbooks anywhere Aug 01 16:20:38 ogra_: do playbooks even have kernel source Aug 01 16:20:50 lilstevie, but your class2 SD wont be faster on other HW either ;) Aug 01 16:21:02 ogra_: very true Aug 01 16:21:13 playbooks are omap4, they shouldnt be to far from the panda Aug 01 16:21:21 ah Aug 01 16:21:26 surely they arent identical Aug 01 16:21:34 would be interesting on loading your own kernel Aug 01 16:21:51 but i bet you could boot to a graphics-less system with the omap4 kernel Aug 01 16:22:10 wonder how the QNX kernel loads Aug 01 17:22:52 someone can help me with cross compiling a kernel for the beagleboard xm (rev.A) ? i only want to disablethe OMAP multiplexing support, because i made this changes in the boot loader **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 02 02:59:57 2011