**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 15 02:59:57 2011 Aug 15 03:07:45 3 minutes and i can take another try at making a bootable ubuntu stick Aug 15 07:46:53 Hi! Is there a way to start ubuntu-arm on pandabox with console login? Without gui? Aug 15 09:02:46 is janimo online today? Aug 15 09:17:30 So, I had a question regarding an ubuntu install that I was doing on a beagleboard. I followed the instructions posted here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OmapNetbook and successfully installed the OS on my beagle. The problem is, I can't log in. It goes straight to a login screen without setting up any user info. If someone could provide an explanation/help I would greatly appreciate it. Aug 15 10:49:12 Hi guys...I'm on a beagleboard-xm with my beloved ubuntu but can't manage to get the gles2 SGX demos to run properly...has anyone a hint in which direction I should have a look? Aug 15 10:49:35 the gles1 demos are running without a problem Aug 15 11:04:59 anyone? Aug 15 11:08:59 infinity, why are you still awake ? Aug 15 11:14:55 I just solved it ... was using the wrong drivers 2.0 in contrast to 5.0...so solved Aug 15 12:14:24 hello Aug 15 12:15:42 what's the correct way to build omap4 ubuntu kernel ? Aug 15 12:15:50 I used this : http://seabright.co.nz/2011/03/29/building-the-ubuntu-pandaboard-kernel/ Aug 15 12:16:04 but, how to install the kernel ? Aug 15 12:17:10 seems have to copy some files (uImage, zImage ?) in /boot, right ? Aug 15 12:19:28 well, you surely also want the modules Aug 15 12:19:39 oh. yes :) Aug 15 12:19:40 and you need to create an initrd Aug 15 12:19:51 for which you need to boot the panda Aug 15 12:20:44 yeah. do you have a link to help me ? Aug 15 12:21:13 just copy the files in place, boot the board with an existing kernel and run update-initramf for the kernel version Aug 15 12:21:19 *update-initramfs Aug 15 12:22:10 update-initramfs needs arguments ? Aug 15 12:23:10 yes, see the manpage Aug 15 12:23:31 update-initramfs -c -k the_name_of_my_kernel ? Aug 15 12:24:06 in previous example, seems to be "uImage", right ? Aug 15 12:24:08 copy zImage into /boot (as vmlinuz-${your version}, copy uImage into the vfat partition, then roll a tarball with the cross built modules and copy that into the rootfs Aug 15 12:24:56 I'll try Aug 15 12:25:03 then you boot and run: sudo update-initramfs -c -k ${your kernel version} && sudo flash-kernel Aug 15 12:25:50 okay! thanks. :) Aug 15 12:27:30 btw, there should be howtos about cross building a package instead of doing a raw build, that would make your life easier (you would just need to dpkg -i it) Aug 15 12:51:15 ogra_: oh wait, my kernel _is_ cross builded Aug 15 12:51:52 built* (sorry, don't speak english very well :/) Aug 15 14:46:46 ogra_: What made you think I was awake? :P Aug 15 15:39:09 infinity, dircproxy messing up logging i think Aug 15 15:44:56 ogra_: Fair enough. :) Aug 15 15:47:09 infinity, so i was a) wondering wheer to put my code in live-build and b) how to use a chrooted command, nothing in live-build/auto/build does that and i wonder why Aug 15 15:47:45 is the chroot around until live-build/auto/clean is called or is it wiped earlier already ? Aug 15 15:48:32 ogra_: It's around until it's cleaned, which is pretty much "forever" from the POV of auto/build. Aug 15 15:49:20 so everything i put below the tarring in live-build/auto/build will be in the chroot but not affect the tarball content, right ? Aug 15 15:49:40 Right. Aug 15 15:50:02 It's actually even more vile than that, the chroot exists twice. Aug 15 15:50:31 well, i need the one that has /dev, /proc and /sys Aug 15 15:50:48 chroot/* is the one installed to, then it's copied to binary/boot/filesystem.dir, and tarred from there. Aug 15 15:50:49 i dont think both have that mounted Aug 15 15:51:08 Neither will have that mounted by the time the tarball is created. Hrm. Fair point. Aug 15 15:51:27 i need to update the initrd so i will need that Aug 15 15:51:46 but i can do that from my code if needed Aug 15 15:52:20 Yeah, I'm looking to see if there's a "right way" we can do it that doesn't reinvent wheels. Aug 15 15:53:10 there is likely an lb command Aug 15 15:53:37 but with that quality of documentation nobody can expect we use it :P Aug 15 15:53:39 You'd think. Looks like it's broken into several. Aug 15 15:58:11 I'm not convinced that we ever have a fully-populated /dev, BTW. Aug 15 15:59:00 well, i'm not sure what update-initramfs needs actually, but i think /dev needs to be popuzlated a bit at least Aug 15 15:59:18 doesnt lb have an initrd command that cares for all that ? Aug 15 15:59:33 one would think such a thing should exist :) Aug 15 15:59:38 But "lb chroot_devpts install ${*}" and "lb chroot_proc install ${*}" and "lb chroot_sysfs install ${*}" should get you dev/pts proc and sys. Aug 15 16:00:15 heh, great, thats not much different to a mount line for each Aug 15 16:00:28 and i bet i need an lb unmount command too for each :P Aug 15 16:00:28 Not really, no. :P Aug 15 16:00:41 Clean kills them all, but you could use a remove line explicitely too. Aug 15 16:00:48 heh Aug 15 16:01:11 so i guess by looking at the other code i want: Aug 15 16:01:23 Chroot chroot blah .... Aug 15 16:01:28 to exec my commands Aug 15 16:01:38 Unfortunately, it looks like the update-initamfs stuff isn't abstracted out, and just happens in chroot_hacks. :/ Aug 15 16:02:15 fun Aug 15 16:02:26 But again, it's just one command. Aug 15 16:02:28 the more i hack on live-build the less i like it Aug 15 16:02:55 its not like it improves *anything* Aug 15 16:03:01 beyond being maintained in debian Aug 15 16:03:25 Part of that is our fault for being too slow to release livecd-rootfs. I tried. :/ Aug 15 16:03:40 But by the time we got it released as free software, this other project was well underway. Aug 15 16:04:22 well, i was pointed to http://people.debian.org/~jak/mkrootfs-doc.pdf today Aug 15 16:04:34 looks like a saner approach than live-build Aug 15 16:19:54 ogra_: Oh, and I found out why my ac100 was sad. Aug 15 16:20:15 ogra_: The total abootimg size was definitely larger than the 8M partition allotted for it. Aug 15 16:20:52 ogra_: flash-kernel probably needs a sanity check of target_partition versus image before it just mindlessly tries to dd 11MB to an 8MB partition. :/ Aug 15 16:21:22 (And this is going to be a recurring problem... Those image files will be large) Aug 15 16:22:03 I only got mine down by switching to MODULES=dep in initramfs.conf... Which will only help for a while until that becomes too big too. Aug 15 16:29:02 infinity, no problem since the installer creates a proper bootimg.cfg that definaes the max size Aug 15 16:29:12 seems yours didnt have that Aug 15 16:29:32 infinity, MODULES=dep is set by the installer too Aug 15 16:30:17 Ahh, I guess I need to fix my bootimg. I just used one you gave me. :P Aug 15 16:30:24 bootimg.cfg, even. Aug 15 16:30:37 well, i likely gave you one i use Aug 15 16:30:49 which definitely defines 8M as max size Aug 15 16:30:58 Well, then it doesn't work as expected. :P Aug 15 16:31:15 Cause it happily creates an unbootable system instead of erroring out or something. Aug 15 16:31:15 bootsize = 0x800000 Aug 15 16:31:37 weird, it should definitely error Aug 15 16:32:00 iirc there is also a check_size call in flash-kernel that actually double checks Aug 15 16:32:30 Weird. Aug 15 16:32:35 I'll have to look at that later. Aug 15 16:32:45 My tuits aren't particularly round right now. Aug 15 16:33:10 abootimg --create $TMPIMAGE -f /boot/bootimg.cfg -k $kfile \ Aug 15 16:33:10 -r $ifile >/dev/null 2>&1 || return 1 Aug 15 16:33:10 imagesize=$(wc -c "$TMPIMAGE" | awk '{print $1}') Aug 15 16:33:10 check_size "Bootimage" $imagesize $AC_SIZE Aug 15 16:33:58 AC_SIZE is defined as: $(abootimg -i $dev |grep "image size"|cut -d ' ' -f5) Aug 15 16:34:39 which is quite ugly Aug 15 16:36:00 Well, now that I know it's *supposed* to work, I'll look into it a bit later and see why mine appears not to. Aug 15 16:36:16 probably the abootimg output changed Aug 15 16:36:20 I still think that, even if it DTRT, it'll blow up "soon" when kernel+MODULES=dep ends up over 8M. :P Aug 15 16:36:57 well, i cant do much more than MODULES=dep adn diverting plymouth Aug 15 16:37:07 We need to shove a chainloader in that 8M partition and jump to our real kernel. grub on ac100, plox. Aug 15 16:37:12 which should get you an initrd below 2M Aug 15 16:37:28 i wrote all that already ... using kexecf Aug 15 16:37:43 as initrd shellscript menu ... Aug 15 16:37:56 NCommander, picked that up and created mukluk from that idea Aug 15 16:38:16 but the unstable state of kexec made us never use it Aug 15 16:38:16 * NCommander runs and hides Aug 15 16:38:42 and controversial discussions sbout grub or UEFI etc Aug 15 16:38:46 *about Aug 15 16:38:51 * infinity nods. Aug 15 16:39:14 I was being partially facetious. I see little point in retrofitting fancy boot loading options for an EOL product. Aug 15 16:39:28 hmm, so why are my mouse clicks not recognized anymore and why does my unity launcher hang around in front of all windows Aug 15 16:39:52 * ogra_ cant change channels in xchat Aug 15 16:39:57 Because you haven't switched to Xubuntu yet. Aug 15 16:40:07 lol Aug 15 16:40:14 ni, i'm unity-2d fan Aug 15 16:40:23 s/ni/no Aug 15 16:40:43 and xubuntu would have that prob too i guess, i think its metacity acting up Aug 15 16:40:50 I use unity on my netbooks, but I have fundamental disagreements with it on my hi-res 4x3 laptop screen. Aug 15 16:41:03 xubuntu doesn't use metacity... Aug 15 16:41:26 ah, indeed, there is that xfce WM Aug 15 16:42:16 Took me less than half an hour to make my xfce look shockingly identical to my old GNOME2 setup, so I'm happy. Aug 15 16:42:32 Anyhow. Less idle chatter, more working. Aug 15 16:42:32 aha, it was the panel ... Aug 15 16:43:09 i guess i should update ... i'm on pre-A3 ... Aug 15 16:46:01 Maybe I need bacon, then more work. Aug 15 18:27:56 howdy guys Aug 15 18:28:02 I'm trying to get a pandaboard Aug 15 18:28:04 to netboot Aug 15 18:28:15 however, it seems that it doesn't even turn on Aug 15 18:28:17 or something Aug 15 18:28:38 as I can't see any output connected though minicom Aug 15 18:42:17 dose some one have problem with installing the img file of ubuntu on the panda? my is installing but when the installation is finished and want to reboot it just loop the installation on it again,,, im using Natty Narwhal 11.04 img to install it... Aug 15 19:06:51 RoAkSoAx: guess you don't mean you're trying to boot it without an sd card :) Aug 15 19:09:36 armin76: lol of course not Aug 15 19:09:46 armin76: but I got further this time, still no minicom output though Aug 15 19:09:59 armin76: but at least I know the swtich detects a link with the connected network cable Aug 15 22:16:07 Does anyone know the username and password to login when using the natty image? Aug 15 23:06:12 RoAkSoAx: were you able to at least see the x-loader/u-boot messages? Aug 15 23:06:23 RoAkSoAx: otherwise could be the wrong first partition format Aug 15 23:07:15 RoAkSoAx: if you want to test your pandaboard I'd suggest you the latest linaro nano image: https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/Ubuntu/ImageInstallation Aug 15 23:07:24 grab the lt-panda hwpack and the nano image Aug 15 23:08:02 that should be enough for you to test the board, have proper console output and such Aug 15 23:09:17 http://releases.linaro.org/platform/linaro-n/nano/11.07/ Aug 15 23:14:22 rsalveti: yes I was, It seems it was due to the partitoins Aug 15 23:14:36 rsalveti: but managed to get the SD card partitioned correctly Aug 15 23:14:43 RoAkSoAx: cool, great Aug 15 23:15:12 ;) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 16 02:59:57 2011