**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 17 02:59:57 2011
Aug 17 03:05:02 <arcaico> prpplague thanks
Aug 17 03:05:04 <arcaico> Can you indicate some link to study?
Aug 17 03:06:02 <arcaico> there is no file in: /lib/modules/kernel
Aug 17 03:06:08 <prpplague> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2010/10/19/how-to-cross-compile-arm-kernel-under-ubuntu-10-10/
Aug 17 08:25:45 <Johansson> hi
Aug 17 08:26:03 <mahmoh> jcrigby: is there an updated u-boot about yet with pxe fixes?
Aug 17 08:26:16 <Johansson> I've installed the official pre-installed 11.04  headless image for beagleboard-xm
Aug 17 08:26:27 <Johansson> and changed the kernel like it says in the website
Aug 17 08:26:45 <Johansson> everything seems to work fine but the ethernet
Aug 17 08:27:02 <Johansson> I've tried insmod g_ether.ko, but it's not working
Aug 17 08:27:06 <Johansson> any idea?
Aug 17 08:28:35 <ogra_> headless is super minimal rather for developers that need a basic system to build on top
Aug 17 08:28:46 <ogra_> it might miss bits and pieces in userspace
Aug 17 08:29:06 <ogra_> do you see the NIC with "cat /proc/net/dev" ?
Aug 17 08:29:40 <Johansson> um, I'm going to boot it up now and see
Aug 17 08:29:51 <Johansson> I know headless is minimal, but I need a minimal system
Aug 17 08:30:10 <Johansson> It's going to act as an on board computer
Aug 17 08:30:19 <ogra_> alternatively you could use the oneiric server image, that should also not require fiddling with the kernel
Aug 17 08:30:32 <Johansson> I won't need a screen
Aug 17 08:30:50 <Johansson> I need the ethernet for connecting to it and develop
Aug 17 08:31:03 <ogra_> sure
Aug 17 08:31:06 <Johansson> and the spi and i2c in the expansion slots
Aug 17 08:35:08 <Johansson> It's not there, only the loopback interface
Aug 17 08:37:18 <ogra_> that looks like a kernel bug
Aug 17 08:38:17 <Johansson> yep
Aug 17 08:38:28 <Johansson> but I'm suprised that I couldn't find it anywhere
Aug 17 08:38:36 <Johansson> in the forums or google
Aug 17 08:39:01 <Johansson> seems like noone tries those headless images
Aug 17 08:39:02 <ogra_> well, i would recommend to at least test the server image (it is what was headless in natty but has additionally installable packages available
Aug 17 08:39:22 <ogra_> we didnt really promote them much
Aug 17 08:40:04 <ogra_> but our QA tests them heavily (thats how we i.e. find out that you need another kernel tarball for certain boards etc)
Aug 17 08:40:35 <Johansson> the server image of oneirc you mean?
Aug 17 08:40:40 <ogra_> yes
Aug 17 08:40:43 <Johansson> oneiric*
Aug 17 08:41:03 <ogra_> server is headless+a package pool of server packages you can install from
Aug 17 08:41:21 <ogra_> but uses a 3.0 kernel that should definitely support your board
Aug 17 08:41:32 <Johansson> but still lets me select the packages, right?
Aug 17 08:41:38 <ogra_> sure
Aug 17 08:41:46 <Johansson> at least in categories like the natty headless
Aug 17 08:41:50 <ogra_> the user experience is the same ... just the image is b igger
Aug 17 08:42:11 <ogra_> because it shops a pool of deb's
Aug 17 08:42:12 <Johansson> is it going to fit in a 2GB SD?
Aug 17 08:42:14 <ogra_> *ships
Aug 17 08:42:18 <ogra_> yes
Aug 17 08:42:25 <ogra_> should fit i think
Aug 17 08:42:26 <Johansson> ok, thanks :)
Aug 17 09:32:20 <ppisati> ogra_: uhmmm... didn't the early 3.0 omap3 kernels have broken usb?
Aug 17 09:32:38 <ppisati> ogra_: perhaps that's why he doesn't see the ethernet
Aug 17 09:32:49 <ogra_> he is on natty still
Aug 17 09:34:28 <ppisati> ah ok
Aug 17 09:34:41 <ogra_> and he has a board that came out fater natty released
Aug 17 09:34:45 <ogra_> *after
Aug 17 09:35:19 <ogra_> its likely that 3.0 will at least be fine with that part ... USb has to be checked indeed, but i think it should work again
Aug 17 09:36:46 <Johansson> but ethernet in the beagle works over a usb interface i think
Aug 17 09:36:56 <ogra_> yes
Aug 17 09:37:01 <Johansson> well anyway I'm installing oneiric, so I'll try
Aug 17 09:37:09 <ogra_> right :)
Aug 17 10:03:03 <Johansson> ogra_, it says the same during the installation as the natty version
Aug 17 10:03:06 <Johansson> "No network interfaces detected                                            ?
Aug 17 10:03:06 <Johansson>  ?                                                                           ?
Aug 17 10:03:06 <Johansson>  ? No network interfaces were found. The installation system was unable to   ?
Aug 17 10:03:06 <Johansson>  ? find a network device.  "
Aug 17 10:03:15 <Johansson> ops, sorry for the crappy copy-paste
Aug 17 10:03:34 <Johansson> "You may need to load a specific module for your network card"
Aug 17 10:03:52 <ogra_> hmm, first file a bug :)
Aug 17 10:04:06 <ogra_> do you have other USB devices you can see ... i.e. with lsusb ?
Aug 17 10:04:28 <Johansson> i don't have any other usb device connected
Aug 17 10:04:51 <Johansson> i can try I mouse or something to see if it shows up, when i finish the installation
Aug 17 10:05:49 <ogra_> just run lsusb, it should at least show you hubs etc
Aug 17 10:24:17 <Johansson> well, something is working
Aug 17 10:24:17 <Johansson> lsusb
Aug 17 10:24:18 <Johansson> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Aug 17 10:24:18 <Johansson> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Aug 17 10:27:41 <Johansson> oh, nice
Aug 17 10:27:53 <Johansson> ogra_, it doesn't work out of the box, the ethernet
Aug 17 10:27:57 <Johansson> but the usbs work
Aug 17 10:28:11 <Johansson> with modprobe g_ether, now the usb0 interface is up
Aug 17 10:28:12 <ogra_> weird
Aug 17 10:28:29 <ogra_> yeah, gadget wont indeed work by default
Aug 17 10:28:29 <Johansson> but i don't know why insmod g_ether.ko doesn't work
Aug 17 10:28:41 <ogra_> but a general network connection should
Aug 17 10:34:09 <Johansson> um..
Aug 17 10:34:17 <Johansson> the interface usb0 for the ethernet gadget is up
Aug 17 10:34:33 <Johansson> but dhclient can't find a dhcp server
Aug 17 10:34:41 <ogra_> yes, but we dont load any gadget modules by default afaik
Aug 17 10:35:03 <Johansson> and the leds in the ethernet aren't on either
Aug 17 10:35:13 <ogra_> leds on the ethernet ?
Aug 17 10:35:23 <ogra_> why would you have any leds lit up ?
Aug 17 10:35:23 <Johansson> the physical connector has 2 leds
Aug 17 10:35:29 <ogra_> you use gadget ethernet
Aug 17 10:35:39 <ogra_> not the NIC
Aug 17 10:35:46 <Johansson> the one that comes with the board
Aug 17 10:36:20 <ogra_> you know what g_ether is, right ?
Aug 17 10:36:41 <Johansson> yes, but if i'm not mistaken, the ethernet connector in the board
Aug 17 10:36:43 <ogra_> (hint, itr has nothing to do with the network card at all)
Aug 17 10:36:44 <Johansson> works that way
Aug 17 10:36:48 <ogra_> no
Aug 17 10:36:55 <Johansson> it's wired through an usb
Aug 17 10:37:04 <ogra_> it initializes a usb ethernet connection on the mini USB port
Aug 17 10:37:44 <Johansson> oh, then I was mistaken..
Aug 17 10:38:25 <Johansson> in all the info I've read everyone was using usb0/usb1 devices for ethernet
Aug 17 10:39:00 <ogra_> ogra@panda:~$ ifconfig |grep HWaddr
Aug 17 10:39:00 <ogra_> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 2e:40:70:f0:12:06
Aug 17 10:39:17 <ogra_> ogra@panda:~$ uname -a
Aug 17 10:39:18 <ogra_> Linux panda 2.6.38-1309-omap4 #14tiomap4v201107060935 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jul 6 08:35:55 UTC 2011 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
Aug 17 10:39:39 <ogra_> (thats oneiric though, but the kernel should still be the same as natty's on this install)
Aug 17 10:40:08 <Johansson> but that's a different board
Aug 17 10:40:35 <ogra_> ??
Aug 17 10:41:22 <Johansson> that's a pandaboard, right?
Aug 17 10:41:24 <ogra_> oh, wait, you said beagle
Aug 17 10:41:27 <Johansson> yes
Aug 17 10:41:31 <Johansson> a beagleboard-xm revC
Aug 17 10:42:03 <ogra_> yeah, that might be usb0 ... but its definitely not g_ether :)
Aug 17 10:42:13 <siji> ogra_, yes it's usb0
Aug 17 10:42:19 <ogra_> though i thoght we fixed it for both boards
Aug 17 10:42:27 <siji> u guess dhclient usb0 will work
Aug 17 10:42:30 <siji> *i
Aug 17 10:42:38 <ogra_> right
Aug 17 10:42:52 <Johansson> it's not g_ether the module then?
Aug 17 10:43:02 <ogra_> right, just ignore g_ether
Aug 17 10:43:04 <Johansson> with g_ether the usb0 is up, but dhclient not working
Aug 17 10:43:16 <ogra_> unless you want to actually use g_ether indeed :)
Aug 17 10:43:55 <Johansson> then what would be the right module to load?
Aug 17 10:44:30 <Johansson> I'm reading that it's treated indeed as an usb gadget
Aug 17 10:44:59 <ogra_> it shouldnt
Aug 17 10:45:17 <ogra_> its a fully fledged USB NIC
Aug 17 10:45:31 <ogra_> just weirdly named
Aug 17 10:46:00 <Johansson> uh, strange
Aug 17 10:46:33 <Johansson> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/356f0edcd90a6320
Aug 17 10:46:35 <ogra_> did you ifconfig usb0 up before running dhclient btw ?
Aug 17 10:46:58 <Johansson> yes
Aug 17 10:47:02 <Johansson> it shows in ifconfig -a
Aug 17 10:47:17 <ogra_> and what did the installer actually offer you ?
Aug 17 10:47:29 <Johansson> nothing
Aug 17 10:47:33 <ogra_> it should tell you name and description of the device before trying to configure it
Aug 17 10:47:40 <Johansson> it says that it couldn't detect any network interface
Aug 17 10:47:45 <ogra_> ah
Aug 17 10:47:55 <Johansson> then i just tried modprobe g_ether
Aug 17 10:48:10 <Johansson> and usb0 appeared
Aug 17 10:48:28 <ogra_> you are sure it wasnt there before ?
Aug 17 10:48:57 <Johansson> yes
Aug 17 10:49:56 <ogra_> hmm, weird
Aug 17 10:51:07 <Johansson> y can reboot and try again
Aug 17 10:57:15 <Johansson> yep, no network interface when i reboot
Aug 17 10:57:17 <Johansson> only lo
Aug 17 10:57:24 <ogra_> very weird
Aug 17 10:57:29 <ogra_> and thats natty ?
Aug 17 10:57:39 <Johansson> no, oneiric
Aug 17 10:57:45 <ogra_> ah, no, wait
Aug 17 10:57:47 <ogra_> yeah
Aug 17 10:57:56 <Johansson> natty didn't even work loading g_ether
Aug 17 10:58:00 * ogra_ is active in too many channels today
Aug 17 10:58:08 <Johansson> modprobe g_ether with natty gave an error
Aug 17 10:58:29 <ogra_> well, it definitely sounds like a kernel bug you should file
Aug 17 10:58:56 <ogra_> afaik we only have revA XMs in the team so its hard to test such issues
Aug 17 10:59:37 <ogra_> do you see any oopses or some such in dmesg ?
Aug 17 10:59:48 <siji> ogra_, I think revA also having the same issue
Aug 17 11:00:08 <ogra_> siji, well, then we would have seen it during release testing
Aug 17 11:00:19 <siji> ok
Aug 17 11:00:23 <Johansson> that's strange, should've noticed it
Aug 17 11:00:30 <ogra_> natty definitely has a working NIC on the XM revA
Aug 17 11:01:00 <Johansson> out of the box?
Aug 17 11:01:03 <ogra_> yes
Aug 17 11:01:09 <siji> ogra_, yes it's working but every boot i have to establisht he command dhclient usb0
Aug 17 11:01:19 <siji> (dont knw whether it's a bug or not)
Aug 17 11:01:26 <ogra_> that would have blocked the release if such an issue would have shown up during final release testing
Aug 17 11:02:16 <ogra_> though check the known issues page, it might be that there were issues with the non netbook images the netbook images dont have
Aug 17 11:02:29 <siji> ogra_, ok
Aug 17 11:03:36 <siji> any way i simply  made a init script and executing it while booting which solved my prblm :)
Aug 17 11:04:27 <Johansson> dhclient usb0 doesn't work for me i'm afraid
Aug 17 11:04:47 <ogra_> well, you dont see the NIC at all
Aug 17 11:04:51 <ogra_> thats different
Aug 17 11:04:58 <ogra_> since you dont even have usb0
Aug 17 11:05:11 <Johansson> but with modprobe g_ether it shows up
Aug 17 11:05:26 <ogra_> thats a totally different device, ignore gadget stuff
Aug 17 11:05:27 <Johansson> siji, does g_ether shows up in your lsmod?
Aug 17 11:05:39 <Johansson> ok then
Aug 17 11:05:44 <siji> Johansson, checking ..
Aug 17 11:05:48 <ogra_> sadly they are both named usb*
Aug 17 11:06:02 <siji> Johansson, no
Aug 17 11:06:03 <Johansson> then the problem is that I need to load the right module, which I don't know
Aug 17 11:06:09 <ogra_> no
Aug 17 11:06:23 <ogra_> the omap kernel should have all bits the beagle needs compiled in
Aug 17 11:06:45 <ogra_> can you pastebin /var/log/dmesg soemwhere ... after a boot without touchuing g_ether
Aug 17 11:08:02 <siji> ogra_, me ?
Aug 17 11:08:09 <Johansson> no, me probabl
Aug 17 11:08:11 <ogra_> siji, no
Aug 17 11:08:13 <ogra_> :)
Aug 17 11:08:14 <siji> ok
Aug 17 11:08:17 <siji> :)
Aug 17 11:08:40 <Johansson> gotta go now, we'll back in about half an hour and will check
Aug 17 11:08:54 <Johansson> btw, thanks for the help
Aug 17 11:12:07 <ogra_> welcome
Aug 17 12:02:39 <Johansson> ogra_, the full dmesg: http://pastebin.com/CZq8WfXJ
Aug 17 12:04:42 <ogra_> well, looks like it doesnt have any NIC there, thats definitely a kernel issue
Aug 17 12:05:47 <Johansson> will it be fixed compiling a new kernel?
Aug 17 12:07:14 <ogra_> well, first of all make sure to file a bug, then hassle ppisati about it enough to make him fix it ;)
Aug 17 12:08:00 <ogra_> (you can alsdo try to bribe him with beer or so, that might even get faster results)
Aug 17 12:08:08 <Johansson> hehe, ok
Aug 17 12:08:25 <ogra_> rsalveti, ^^^ have you heard of XM revC board NIC issues ?
Aug 17 12:08:37 <Johansson> but my question was if the problem is with this image
Aug 17 12:09:13 <Johansson> or if there is no support at all for this nic in the kernel
Aug 17 12:09:30 <ogra_> well, thats what the bug is supposed to tell us :)
Aug 17 12:09:53 <ogra_> afauik it should just be the same  smsc adapter the panda uses
Aug 17 12:10:44 <ogra_> and i think it should be even compiled in statically ... though that might have changed since i touched omap3 kernel stuff last
Aug 17 12:12:21 <rsalveti> ogra_: it seems that there's an issue with usb x revc
Aug 17 12:12:32 <ogra_> aha !
Aug 17 12:12:43 <rsalveti> still didn't check the details yet, but I remember the patches to fix it were applied
Aug 17 12:12:49 <ogra_> well, that would explain everything then :)
Aug 17 12:12:51 <rsalveti> so could be a new bug against 3.0
Aug 17 12:13:00 <rsalveti> even with linaro kernels
Aug 17 12:13:03 <ogra_> well, he sees it on natty too
Aug 17 12:13:21 <ogra_> i was about to suggest to try a linaro .deb
Aug 17 12:13:37 <ogra_> but if thats the same it wont be worth the effort
Aug 17 12:14:49 <rsalveti> hm, weird, I remember we fixed this at natty
Aug 17 12:15:09 <rsalveti> [    0.079040] OMAP3 Beagle Rev: xM C
Aug 17 12:15:14 <rsalveti> it's properly identified
Aug 17 12:39:36 <ogra_> bah, crap ... the ac100 installer cant work the way it is designed
Aug 17 12:39:39 <ogra_> sigh
Aug 17 12:42:22 <ogra_> infinity, i fear i need to go back to the overlay initrd and to using abootimg on antimony
Aug 17 12:43:04 <ogra_> infinity, the tarball is renamed n times i will never have the right filename in the initrd
Aug 17 12:56:02 <rsalveti> ogra_: in theory http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-natty.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee67d920c47e8a804560eed1e3b8f3157df50fe2;hp=bbe1f061a9bcc183c60921a70c98c08668bb9984 fixed the revc support for natty
Aug 17 12:56:22 <rsalveti> at least this was tested by some folks that had revc and it worked fine
Aug 17 12:57:04 <rsalveti> but this is not at the released kernel
Aug 17 12:57:10 <ogra_> aha
Aug 17 12:57:20 <rsalveti> guess we have that documented at the wiki page
Aug 17 12:57:33 <ogra_> well, the wuestion is if it is in the revC kernel that tobin offers as tarball :)
Aug 17 12:57:56 <ogra_> you cant use the release kernel anyway with that board
Aug 17 14:26:03 <RoAkSoAx> howdy guys
Aug 17 14:26:17 <ogra_> yo
Aug 17 14:26:20 <RoAkSoAx> I was wondering what mirror to use to install arm (i.e. archive.ubuntu.com)?
Aug 17 14:26:33 <ogra_> ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports
Aug 17 14:26:54 <ogra_> whats your installation taget device
Aug 17 14:28:05 <RoAkSoAx> ogra_: cool
Aug 17 14:28:07 <RoAkSoAx> thanks
Aug 17 14:28:09 <RoAkSoAx> using a pandaboard
Aug 17 14:28:32 <ogra_> what image ? they should all be properly pre-configured to DTRT
Aug 17 14:28:53 <ogra_> (i.e. the mirror should be pre-selected)
Aug 17 14:29:41 <ogra_> if not, thats a bug that should be filed
Aug 17 14:38:42 * ogra_ could really need some brilliant idea for the tarball naming problem
Aug 17 14:39:17 * ogra_ looks at infinity trying to find out if thats a snore coming from there or not
Aug 17 15:22:36 <infinity> ogra_: Hrm?  How does the filename matter?
Aug 17 15:22:53 <ogra_> infinity, it i ued to find the file :)
Aug 17 15:22:57 <ogra_> *used
Aug 17 15:23:16 <infinity> Well, find-live-filesystem is going to give you a consistent filename on antimony.
Aug 17 15:23:21 <ogra_> ele i would have to iterate over all posible tarballs and check all md5's (as you noticed before)
Aug 17 15:23:30 <ogra_> *else
Aug 17 15:24:00 <infinity> Of course, it might change again when you publish.
Aug 17 15:24:04 <ogra_> if i create the md5sum file before find-live-filesystem, the filename is differebt
Aug 17 15:24:17 <ogra_> right, and publishing chnges it again
Aug 17 15:24:19 <infinity> So?
Aug 17 15:24:47 <ogra_> with my way of doing the post processing on antimony i know the final filename
Aug 17 15:24:56 <infinity> The md5sum file shouldn't matter.  It could just be stdin, for all one cares.
Aug 17 15:24:57 <ogra_> so that wasnt a problem before
Aug 17 15:25:09 <infinity> And actually, no.  You still don't know the final filename with doing it all on antimony.
Aug 17 15:25:35 <infinity> Since we rename dailies to ubuntu-$version-whatever when we publish milestones and final releases.
Aug 17 15:25:59 <ogra_> hmm, right, thats in cdimage
Aug 17 15:26:02 <ogra_> btw
Aug 17 15:26:04 <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/668356/
Aug 17 15:26:14 <ogra_> a review would be appreciated before i merge that
Aug 17 15:28:43 <infinity> Your script just needs to know all the possible names it could be looking for, I suppose.  Or a pattern.
Aug 17 15:29:22 <infinity> Why didn't you use the live-build helpers to mount/umount your special filesystems?  Would have avoided that case statement, since it already knows the right thing.
Aug 17 15:29:39 <ogra_> either that or i could pre-filter against the filesize
Aug 17 15:29:53 <ogra_> hmm
Aug 17 15:30:35 <ogra_> you mean lb_chroot_sysfs and friends ?
Aug 17 15:30:42 <infinity> *nod*
Aug 17 15:30:45 <ogra_> how do i call them, are they in PATH ?
Aug 17 15:31:03 <ogra_> also do they mount in the right chroot :)
Aug 17 15:31:10 <ogra_> given i seem to have two
Aug 17 15:31:13 <infinity> You call them as "lb chroot_sysfs $args"
Aug 17 15:31:32 <infinity> And yeah, they operate on chroot/ not on binary/foo/blah.
Aug 17 15:31:37 <infinity> The one in binary is just a copy of the other.
Aug 17 15:32:10 <ogra_> hmm, so i should change my code to point to chroot/ then
Aug 17 15:32:59 <infinity> Possibly.
Aug 17 15:42:22 <ogra_> infinity, bah, that now looks boring http://paste.ubuntu.com/668365/
Aug 17 15:42:36 <ogra_> any obvious typos ?
Aug 17 15:43:40 <ogra_> hmm, i could drop rootpath as well i guess
Aug 17 15:43:42 <infinity> Nope, but you want to pass "$@" as the second argument to all your lb calls.
Aug 17 15:44:15 <infinity> In the case of those three, it probably doesn't matter that it gets all the arguments, but one never knows what some crazy person might do later. :)
Aug 17 15:44:26 <infinity> And yeah, the rootpath thing is pointless.
Aug 17 15:45:31 * ogra_ adds, though the code only chcks for install|remove anyway
Aug 17 15:46:10 <infinity> Yeah, I know.  It's just lb best practice, since all the tools are meant to potentially care about environment.
Aug 17 15:46:27 <infinity> (And they really should have a better way of doing that than passing the CLI on to everything)
Aug 17 15:46:30 <infinity> But whatever.
Aug 17 15:46:50 <ogra_> heh, yeah
Aug 17 15:47:05 <ogra_> ok, merging and uploading ... i'm curious if it will work :)
Aug 17 15:48:52 <infinity> Is 9:45am too early to hit the gin?
Aug 17 15:49:14 <ogra_> depends on the amount of tonic
Aug 17 15:49:38 <infinity> Ahh, that's how it works?  Good to know.
Aug 17 15:50:01 <infinity> My best friend's grandpa died last night, and I did the only sane and manly thing -- kept him up all night drinking.
Aug 17 15:50:16 <infinity> And now I'm trying to sort out how to operate on 3 hours' sleep with a splitting headache. :P
Aug 17 15:51:30 <ogra_> alka selzer ftw
Aug 17 15:51:48 <ogra_> and yes, after a 3h night gin at 9:45 is a sanr thing
Aug 17 15:51:50 <ogra_> *sane
Aug 17 15:52:01 <ogra_> (if you drank the night before)
Aug 17 20:48:36 <steev_> using an ubuntu core (oneiric) base, i've gone through and installed ubuntu-desktop, and I'm getting a few issues, one being locale can't seem to set the default locale (is this because I'm in a chroot without a kernel yet?) or am I missing something else, I do recall it asking me for the locale(s) to use, and I set it to US/US/UTF-8, the other is that dpkg seems to die because of modemmanager, ar
Aug 17 20:48:36 <steev_> e these known issues already?
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