**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 02:59:57 2011 Sep 27 03:01:45 ogra_, slangasek : is it going to be possible to get some sponsorship love for libjpeg-turbo that's in revu? Sep 27 07:16:33 Daviey: You're lucky you found _one_ person who would room with you ;) Sep 27 07:26:39 SWMBO? Sep 27 11:40:44 tgall_foo, whats the reason for using that old debhelper version = Sep 27 11:40:45 ? Sep 27 17:10:55 is the daily from today worth downloading and installing? Sep 27 17:11:26 it'd be great to see what changed between those builds somewhere Sep 27 17:35:00 brandini: You can also just do a "sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to find out. On a daily basis, this can be much quicker, especially after Thursday when we go into final freeze. After that, it is critical bug fixes only. Sep 27 17:48:14 brandini: Unless you're looking for installer changes, there's probably no point in new dailies (or even the final release), just upgrading should be fine. Sep 27 17:48:35 brandini: On the other hand, if you want to help make sure the installation media is in good shape, please do. ;) Sep 27 17:56:08 infinity: both mostly Sep 27 17:56:13 :) Sep 27 17:56:46 but back to my original question... is it good? :P Sep 27 17:58:24 Dunno, haven't used it. Sep 27 17:58:30 :) Sep 27 17:58:33 ok, here I go Sep 27 18:07:45 updated and rebooting Sep 27 18:09:36 GrueMaster: i really should build more of my panda netbooks Sep 27 18:09:56 Yes, and send one to me. :P Sep 27 18:10:44 GrueMaster: with all the new omap4 devices coming out, i would how economical it would be to build some.... Sep 27 18:10:47 prpplague: got pictures? Sep 27 18:11:16 http://www.elinux.org/PandaBoard_Netbook Sep 27 18:12:32 my friend is building one of those, would you be interested in doing one for him? Sep 27 18:13:00 hehe, i would love to build some more, simple don't have the time Sep 27 18:13:16 * prpplague tries to remember a quote from roscoe brown in the cowboys Sep 27 18:15:00 time is money? Sep 27 18:15:24 is it possible to turn off wifi/bt from the command line? Sep 27 18:15:30 I don't use them and I'd like to disable them Sep 27 18:15:48 yea if you export the gpio controls Sep 27 18:16:29 whats the best way to install dependancies on a chroot environment? Sep 27 18:16:39 * brandini looks up the gpio controls Sep 27 18:21:34 prpplague: in bsd we have soft and hard switches to control them Sep 27 18:34:14 I'm desperately trying to get lucy running on an omap device, not beagle! it comes with angstrom. I've swapped the rootfs between the two and it boots up to "Starting GPE display manager" and hangs, any ideas ? Sep 27 18:36:11 lucy? Sep 27 18:37:43 GrueMaster: oops, think i probably meant lucid! Sep 27 18:38:12 Why do you want Lucid? It was only a tech preview on omap3. Sep 27 18:38:29 And it is due to drop support next month for armel. Sep 27 18:38:45 (18 month support cycle for ports). Sep 27 18:39:41 GrueMaster: because apparently it will work the best with the old kernel that works with angstrom Sep 27 18:44:11 I take it you had issues with ubuntu core? Sep 27 18:44:27 How old is this kernel you're using? Sep 27 18:44:31 GrueMaster: I'm not going to lieā€¦ I've had issues with everything Sep 27 18:44:45 New userspace should work fine with old kernels, generally. Sep 27 18:53:55 infinity , GrueMaster " its 2.6.32 Sep 27 18:55:54 sniperjo_: I have used 2.6.31 on a different system (Dove) and had it boot into an oneiric rootfs, so it does work. Sep 27 18:56:34 * martyn has just booted an oneric rootfs Sep 27 18:57:58 sniperjo_: What are you currently booting from? SD? eMMC/Flash? Sep 27 18:58:05 GrueMaster: SD Sep 27 18:58:38 Ok, how is the SD partitioned? And do you have a spare SD 4G (or bigger)? Sep 27 18:58:53 GrueMaster: i have a 4gb Sep 27 18:59:09 That can be wiped? Sep 27 18:59:15 GrueMaster: partitioned as their sdcard config script does, one boot, one rootfs Sep 27 18:59:18 yup Sep 27 19:00:01 Ok, clone your working SD onto your spare SD. Sep 27 19:03:30 GrueMaster: ok done! Sep 27 19:03:43 Make sure the spare boots. Sep 27 19:06:32 GrueMaster: it works Sep 27 19:07:02 Ok, power off, and move the SD to your PC. BTW, what are you running on your PC? Sep 27 19:07:42 ubuntu netbook, 2.6.32-33 Sep 27 19:07:56 Ok. Old, but ok. Sep 27 19:08:23 On the netbook, insert the SD, but make sure it is unmounted. Sep 27 19:09:03 ok Sep 27 19:09:30 What drive is it (/dev/mmcblk0, /dev/sdb, etc)? Sep 27 19:09:37 sdb Sep 27 19:10:52 Ok, no format the second (rootfs) partition with "sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb2" (no quotes). Sep 27 19:14:31 GrueMaster: ok, done Sep 27 19:15:52 Ok. Now, do you have a copy of ubuntu-core? If not, "wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/oneiric/beta-2/ubuntu-core-11.10-beta2-core-armel.tar.gz" Sep 27 19:17:12 i have ed2e64d339cb4fc89c8965e6717d6d3e oneiric-core-armel.tar.gz Sep 27 19:17:47 Looks like it is the same one. Sep 27 19:18:20 In the directory where that tarball is, make a mnt directory "mkdir mnt". Sep 27 19:19:27 ok Sep 27 19:19:48 Now, "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 mnt" Sep 27 19:20:00 ya Sep 27 19:20:24 Next, "cd mnt" followed by "sudo tar -zxvf ../oneiric-core-armel.tar.gz" Sep 27 19:20:56 That should finish rewriting your rootfs with the ubuntu-core. Sep 27 19:20:59 yup Sep 27 19:21:30 ok, "cd .. ; sudo umount mnt" Sep 27 19:21:43 Wait for it to flush any cache writes. Sep 27 19:21:51 Then try that SD in your system. Sep 27 19:25:24 GrueMaster: ok, it has a massive spas out on udevd[2861]: unable to receive ctrl connection: Function not implemented Sep 27 19:25:41 as in it just keeps on repeating it Sep 27 19:25:47 hmm. Sep 27 19:26:24 also a modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.32/modules.dep: No such file or directory Sep 27 19:26:56 That is to be expected at the moment. No kernel in ubuntu-core rootfs. Sep 27 19:27:16 It should still give you some sort of prompt. Sep 27 19:27:43 Is this serial console or on screen? Sep 27 19:28:22 http://pastebin.com/ukRiFiaB Sep 27 19:28:31 GrueMaster: Serial console. Sep 27 19:30:00 ok. need to make a tweek to the rootfs. Shut it down and move the SD back to your netbook. Sep 27 19:30:31 ok, unmount ? Sep 27 19:30:48 mounted. Sep 27 19:31:20 good to go! Sep 27 19:32:34 ok. Easiest is to do the work in a terminal. cd to the mount point. Sep 27 19:32:43 and cd etc Sep 27 19:33:13 yup Sep 27 19:33:23 then type "sudo cp init/tty2.conf init/ttyO2.conf Sep 27 19:33:52 yup Sep 27 19:34:27 then "sudo vi init/ttyO2.conf" and change "exec /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty2" to "exec /sbin/getty -L ttyO2 115200" Sep 27 19:36:48 yup Sep 27 19:37:10 Save, cd away, unmount and reboot. Sep 27 19:38:18 See if that gives to a console shell. Sep 27 19:39:09 no looked like their might of been a longer pause, but then same error Sep 27 19:39:15 udevd[2861]: unable to receive ctrl connection: Function not implemented Sep 27 19:39:36 Does hitting enter on the serial console bring up anything? Sep 27 19:39:48 What is the kernel cmdline? Sep 27 19:39:55 (scroll up to see). Sep 27 19:40:43 enter does nothing and Sep 27 19:42:09 GrueMaster: where am i meant to be looking ? Sep 27 19:42:26 for uboot ? Sep 27 19:43:34 As the system boots, after "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel." Sep 27 19:44:45 err "Linux version 2.6.32 (root@edward-desktop) (gcc version 4.4.1 (Sourcery G++ Lite 2010q1-202) ) #20 Fri Aug 6 13:54:51 CST 2010" ? its all on http://pastebin.com/ukRiFiaB Sep 27 19:44:59 GrueMaster: Kernel command line: console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait Sep 27 19:45:11 sorry, diddnt see it Sep 27 19:45:22 Got it. Ok, need to reedit. Sep 27 19:45:55 ok I'm back in ect Sep 27 19:46:00 etc even Sep 27 19:46:01 excellent. Sep 27 19:46:30 Ok, "sudo mv init/ttyO2.conf init/ttyS2.conf" Sep 27 19:46:48 Then "sudo vi init/ttyS2.conf" and replace ttyO2 with ttyS2. Sep 27 19:47:48 That "should" now give you either a terminal or a login on the serial console. Sep 27 19:50:37 GrueMaster: still the same Sep 27 19:50:56 pressing enter should give you something. Sep 27 19:52:26 GrueMaster: still the same Sep 27 19:53:21 Are you using the keyboard on the serial-console system or a keyboard attached to the test system? use the serial-console system. Sep 27 19:53:40 still have "udevd[2861]: unable to receive ctrl connection: Function not implemented" that comes up 15x a sec, and pressing enter just adds a like between wherever it is printing Sep 27 19:53:56 GrueMaster: yes, its all going through a modem Sep 27 19:54:03 & minicom Sep 27 19:54:20 modem? Sep 27 19:54:35 well, usb / serial adapter Sep 27 19:54:36 lol Sep 27 19:54:50 Ok. BIGGGG difference. :P Sep 27 19:55:06 Lose minicom. It is a pita. Sep 27 19:55:08 i had some awful belikin thing before which was one Sep 27 19:55:23 Just type "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200" Sep 27 19:55:47 That should give you a better serial console. Sep 27 19:55:57 ok, but its still the same ! Sep 27 19:56:10 * infinity glares at sys/ucontext.h on ARM. Sep 27 19:56:51 Ok. Next we will need to disable udevd. Shut down and prepare to edit while I look at my systems. Sep 27 19:57:50 ok, thanks so much Sep 27 19:59:17 Looks like we can just edit etc/init/udev.conf. Comment out the "exec udevd --daemon by adding a # to the beginning of the line. Sep 27 20:00:34 ok, and try again ? Sep 27 20:01:13 yep Sep 27 20:04:11 GrueMaster: ok, so by the looks of it now, its just stopped before where the udev would start spamming it , enter does nothing Sep 27 20:04:51 hmmm. Sep 27 20:08:13 Not sure what the issue is now. I'll muck with some stuff here on a different system and see if I can recreate the environment. But first, I need food (haven't eaten all day). Sep 27 20:08:55 GrueMaster: ok, that would be amazing Sep 27 20:09:16 thanks for your help again! Sep 27 20:14:19 sniperjo_: One other thing, you might want to keep and eye on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/PBlueprintIdeas. One of the blueprints for next cycle is to help enable other consumer devices. For the most part, yours may be failrly simple (like patching u-boot & kernel to ID your board). Sep 27 20:15:34 If you can make it to Orlando Florida the first week of November, you can discuss it in person, otherwise you can monitor the sessions in IRC and comment where appropriate. Sep 27 20:15:53 i'd love to, but its a bit far ! Sep 27 20:16:30 Getting full support for your system in Oneiric is unfortunately not going to happen. We have final freeze Thursday, with only critical updates after that. Sep 27 20:16:46 But I can try to help a little as time allows. Sep 27 20:17:02 For now, lunch. Sep 27 20:17:35 GrueMaster: yea thats great, I'm only really looking for something that will play nice with chromium and mplayer at the moment! Sep 27 23:24:18 http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/26/amazon-kindle-fire/ Sep 27 23:24:24 wow, everything is omap now :-) Sep 27 23:24:26 probably omap 4 Sep 27 23:37:55 Would explain why pandas are hard to buy. Sep 28 00:45:54 what does the one LED that flashes all the time mean on ubuntu? Sep 28 00:52:20 ? Sep 28 00:52:23 On which hardware? Sep 28 00:53:38 the pandaboard Sep 28 00:54:01 the hardware specs say that it's user defineable Sep 28 00:55:22 "STATUS1" (the LED furthest from the SD card on a Panda) is USB activity, I believe, and STATUS2 is SD activity. Sep 28 00:56:02 I'm not positive on the STATUS1 thing, though. Sep 28 00:56:14 It does seem to go up when I shove things through the USB bus, though. :P Sep 28 00:57:57 I suspect the kernel knows for sure. Sep 28 01:04:28 hrmmm Sep 28 01:12:31 brandini: heartbeat Sep 28 01:12:58 one is for heartbeat and the other is for sd activity Sep 28 01:28:57 rsalveti: It's a pretty inconsistent heartbeat. Sep 28 01:29:25 infinity: well, depends on the cpu usage Sep 28 01:46:07 mine seems regular enough :) Sep 28 02:54:00 woo hoo, got my mx53 Sep 28 02:54:49 looks like it's got its own kernel package. anybody using natty with this board? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 28 02:59:56 2011