**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 05 02:59:58 2011 Oct 05 03:02:50 Nope. Not it (apparently). Oct 05 03:03:02 sigh. Oct 05 03:04:32 Banshee needs mono now? Sheesh. Oct 05 03:04:57 Its a mono app. Always has been. Oct 05 03:05:11 Rassum frassum Oct 05 03:06:13 Personally, I don't like either of the two gnome music apps (Banshee, Rhythmbox). But that's just me. Oct 05 03:07:00 Last time I looked at rhythmbox (8.04) it looks OK for what it was Oct 05 03:16:02 Yes, but apparently it won't work with ubuntuone (or at lease ubuntuone won't work with it). Don't ask me why. Oct 05 03:16:21 But we may revert to that for this release. Will know more Thursday. Oct 05 03:19:12 I expect canonical cares about that, but I don't :P Oct 05 03:20:46 Well, at least Pithos runs well on armel. Pandora on Panda rocks. Oct 05 03:21:43 Oh lame Oct 05 03:21:51 I thought you meant like the pandora game handheld Oct 05 03:21:58 May need to move my normal pandora setup to this system. Chumby is getting a little long in the tooth. Oct 05 03:22:24 No, online music. Beats my local collection. Oct 05 03:22:41 "We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S." Oct 05 03:23:11 There's a couple of CC-flavoured ones that I would use if I could be arsed. IIRC recent versions of rhythmbox know about them OOTB Oct 05 03:23:21 Yea, blame the industry, not Pandora. Freaking RIAA and ASCAP. Oct 05 03:23:49 Both fight for licensing rights, neither really care about the artists. Oct 05 03:25:55 I used to work in a lounge that featured live bands. During the day, they would play cds from the local bands that would play Friday & Saturday, until ASCAP came and told us to stop or pay. We even had one of the artists there, while his music was playing. Oct 05 03:26:43 At any rate, that is a long rant from 16 years ago ('95). Oct 05 03:27:12 Well, I've put in my 14 hours. Time to go veg on the tube. Oct 05 09:02:55 GrueMaster: no love updating mono-addins (hadto take a brick to it to get it installed but no comparable difference :-/) Oct 05 09:02:59 in banshee Oct 05 09:41:32 Hi guys, I've read every thread I could find on google groups but didn't find a new answer: Is hd video acceleration possible with natty on the pandaboard nowadays? I'm using the TI ppa with ubuntu-omap4-extras installed Oct 05 09:41:44 no Oct 05 09:41:44 And as a second question: Is there no performance governor anymore with natty? I don't find it anymore in the usual place Oct 05 09:41:56 wait for oneiric or use maverick Oct 05 09:42:11 Ti did no work on the natty port of the omx bits Oct 05 09:42:21 ogra_: Wow fast answer...even if it's not what I hoped for ;) Oct 05 09:42:34 (lets hope that makes the oneiric one twice as good :) ) Oct 05 09:43:25 ogra_: I'm experienced with beta versions, is there already support for it in the current dev version of oneiric? Oct 05 09:43:53 I would test it then and give feedback... Oct 05 09:44:43 plasmasolutions_, i dont think TI has uploaded to the PPA yet, ndec1 might be able to giev an ETA (i would gueyy by release its there though) Oct 05 09:44:49 *guess even Oct 05 09:46:18 plasmasolutions_: short answer: not available now. long answer: http://groups.google.com/group/pandaboard/browse_thread/thread/2aa25aab6635fb02 Oct 05 09:48:38 ogra_: ndec1: Thank you for your help...I'm reading your post now... Oct 05 09:53:39 ndec1: Wow, this post was needed... why is it so difficult to find?! Should be linked on the ubuntu wiki... Oct 05 09:54:39 ndec1: So ist's more than likely that we'll get the packages once oneiric is ready...that's goog news! Oct 05 09:54:57 goog = good :) Oct 05 09:58:42 plasmasolutions_: this is the last message in the pandaboard group... Oct 05 10:01:02 ndec1: I'm now a member of this group...so important news will not pass away again :) Oct 05 10:04:21 ndec1: So thank you very much..I have to leave now. But I will try maverick and oneiric once it's ready! Looking really forward to this release...bye Oct 05 10:25:54 ndec1, what is the difference between gst-ducati and gst-openmax? Oct 05 10:26:10 I read the mail you lined to above and it mentions this change in the PPA Oct 05 10:27:12 janimo: they do the same thing, in the sense that they decode/encode using h/w acceleration. but they use different low level APIs to do it Oct 05 10:27:23 gst-openmax uses OMX, gst-ducati uses DCE Oct 05 10:27:38 ndec1, are they competing or is one replacing the other? Oct 05 10:27:54 is DCE a TI-only technology? Oct 05 10:28:10 yes. Oct 05 10:28:19 Distributed Codec Engine. Oct 05 10:28:28 codec engine is TI API for codecs Oct 05 10:28:42 OMX uses CE API, and DCE uses the same API. Oct 05 10:29:17 janimo: http://groups.google.com/group/pandaboard/browse_thread/thread/2aa25aab6635fb02 Oct 05 10:29:31 oops... wrong copy paste... here is it: http://bloggingthemonkey.blogspot.com/2010/11/announcing-libdce-and-gst-ducati.html Oct 05 10:32:05 ndec1, thanks. Still not clear from it whether it is preferred to openmax. Probably not if portability is in mind. Is TI also updating gst-openmax though? Oct 05 10:33:18 janimo, the point is that whatever android chooses as default should be used, else you add extra workload Oct 05 10:33:42 and i think android moves away from omx Oct 05 10:35:57 ok, but android moves to something that is not in classic linux Oct 05 10:36:04 but I see your point Oct 05 10:36:37 its not in classic lunix, but the kernel side implementation will be the same Oct 05 10:36:46 *linux indeed :) Oct 05 10:39:46 ogra_: no android is not moving away from OMX. Oct 05 10:39:56 oh, i thought they do Oct 05 10:39:59 we are moving away from what we do in android ;-) Oct 05 10:40:09 i stand corrected then :) Oct 05 10:40:29 ogra_: if you read that somewhere, please share the link Oct 05 10:40:39 i didnt :) Oct 05 11:49:20 ogra_, Andoid moves from OpenCore to StageFright maybe that's what you (and I) mixed up with moving from OMX? Oct 05 11:49:43 yeah, i just knew everything is moving right now :) Oct 05 11:49:46 lots of multimedia related codenames around Oct 05 11:50:04 wohoo, another sprint in budapest \o/ Oct 05 11:50:15 * ogra_ guesses infinity will like that :) Oct 05 11:50:52 where is it announced? Oct 05 11:51:38 check your mails :) Oct 05 11:54:21 I checked right aft6er you said it. But I rmember my inbox is lagging a bit. So will get it in 20 minutes :) Oct 05 11:54:41 are ysou using uucp ? *g* Oct 05 11:55:39 homing pigeons Oct 05 11:55:56 heh Oct 05 11:55:59 unladen though. For maximum speed Oct 05 11:56:15 flying forwards or backwards ? Oct 05 11:56:32 (or belly up ?) Oct 05 11:57:18 show out of a cannon, wings tied to the body Oct 05 11:57:31 s/show/shot/ Oct 05 11:57:34 heh, yeah, that should be pretty fast Oct 05 13:16:07 Hi everybody Oct 05 13:17:40 morning Oct 05 13:18:00 I have got a BeagleBoard-xM and wonder which Ubuntu release to use. Oct 05 13:18:50 depends on the board revision ... the newer the more likely it is that your revision isnt supported out of the box in an older release Oct 05 13:19:56 According to u-boot it is "Rev C". (That's probably also the meaning of the "C" sticker on the board.) Oct 05 13:20:32 then i would suggest oneiric Oct 05 13:21:34 latest daily, shouldnt change much until tomorrow (when we build the Release Candidate images) Oct 05 13:21:36 This would be http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/oneiric-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap.img.gz then? Oct 05 13:21:43 yep Oct 05 13:22:43 Great! Because I have already tested Maverick in order to avoid Natty's https://launchpad.net/bugs/771537, and could not get it to boot. Oct 05 13:22:45 Launchpad bug 771537 in linux "Beagle XM lacks proper 1Ghz support" [Medium,In progress] Oct 05 13:34:17 right,. oneiric should fix that Oct 05 13:44:16 Thanks. I'll report back when I continue testing tomorrow. Oct 05 13:44:41 great, feedback is really appreciated since we are testing for release Oct 05 14:00:41 will the new oneiric not work with the older Beaglebaord xM Rev.A3? Oct 05 14:01:22 it should work with all beagle XMs that are currently available Oct 05 14:01:30 ok thanks Oct 05 14:01:43 the older ones dont since the boards showed up after or around release time Oct 05 14:02:12 we offer updated bootloader and kernel files you can replace on the older images, oneiric includes all these bits Oct 05 14:03:21 ok, I have an Rev A3 and a Rev B, im gonna play with both of them by the end of the week. glad to hear they will both work with oneiric Oct 05 14:03:45 if you find issues, please tell us Oct 05 14:05:51 will do Oct 05 14:06:21 downloading image from link above Oct 05 14:57:51 ndec1, yo ! i just got an oder acknowledgement for a 4460 :) Oct 05 14:58:12 ogra_: ? Oct 05 14:58:37 from TI Oct 05 14:58:45 seems there is a 4460 in shipment to me Oct 05 15:00:34 I got one Saturday. Still no box though. Oct 05 15:01:55 ogra_: cool! do you have the ID ? Oct 05 15:03:12 hmm, there are a bunch of numbers, which is the ID ? :) Oct 05 15:04:09 * ogra_ thinks what he just got from the postman is just a bill ... has the usual $0.00 Oct 05 15:05:21 ndec1: The Order Ack # for mine is 143064217. Is that the number you are looking for? Oct 05 15:05:43 do you have a RQST number? or the model number? Oct 05 15:07:55 OMAP4460UEVMES11GP12GHZTIWI-BLE or UEVM4460G-02-01-00. Those are the only other numbers on my copy. Oct 05 15:08:21 same here Oct 05 15:18:19 I wish it was friday and I could hack on my pandaboard Oct 05 15:22:33 ogra_: GrueMaster: ok. that looks good! Oct 05 15:25:43 ndec1: Any info on the new boards? Same/similar to panda? Same power? I'd like to get mine online as soon as it arrives so that I can say it works for Oneiric. Oct 05 15:37:18 If you get an 4460 then *I* should get a 4460 too! Oct 05 15:37:39 You just plug that into your pandaboard and voila eh? ;) Oct 05 16:05:06 wonder if I could get a job doing dev for these SoC things Oct 05 16:07:11 brandini: plenty of job openings for skilled developers Oct 05 16:07:58 I don't have any experience doing it, but I do have good skills and a great ability to learn Oct 05 16:09:23 brandini: as prpplague said, yes, we are always open to great people ;-) Oct 05 16:09:53 we == ubuntu? Oct 05 16:11:14 brandini: and others Oct 05 16:12:23 wonder if there are any in NE ohio Oct 05 16:17:23 brandini: i work for TI ;-) Oct 05 16:17:42 nice sound on the panda board! Oct 05 16:18:07 tested todays daily image 20111005 and can confirm that the fix from 1003 fixed Oct 05 16:18:18 w00t! Oct 05 16:19:01 Linux localhost 3.0.0-1205-omap4 #10-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Sep 29 03:57:24 UTC 2011 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux Oct 05 16:19:08 armv7l x3 Oct 05 16:19:09 xranby: Excellent. Oct 05 16:19:33 ndec1: any openings near NE ohio? Oct 05 16:23:42 GrueMaster: when testing i noted that the soundscard did not get detected while running the oem-setup but the soundcard got found when the lightdm login screen got displayed Oct 05 16:24:26 so the first thing i heard was the login sound.. excellent Oct 05 16:24:46 xranby: That could be a pulseaudio thing. Not sure. Oct 05 16:25:36 Right now, I am fighting to get through oem-config without respawning. Seems I am the only one experiencing this (although I can do it reliably on multiple boards with different SD cards). Oct 05 16:29:32 xranby: GrueMaster: i am also seing that the soundcard is detected only after loging in Oct 05 16:29:48 aplay -l does not return the same thing before and after login Oct 05 16:29:56 you know where it's coming from? Oct 05 16:33:09 It could be that pulseaudio is having issues running as root during oem-config. On firstboot, there is no default user and no user environment established. pulseaudio runs as a user app. Oct 05 16:34:08 even after installation, i get this. if you open a console before logging into lightdm (ssh or serial), aplay doesn't return anything Oct 05 16:36:57 Very odd. On my server images, I see both Panda & PandaHDMI in /proc/asound/cards. May need more alsa tweeks. Oct 05 16:38:36 You're supposed to see both. Oct 05 16:39:11 Yes, but you should also be able to use both. Oct 05 16:44:37 It appears we are missing a mixer device when logged in through the console (testing on ubuntu-server). Oct 05 18:29:26 ogra_: On today's image, clicking on the ti icon and telling software center to use this source causes software center to crash. Oct 05 18:34:28 I'd file a bug, but I am getting an "Unexpected Form Data error from lp. sigh. Oct 05 18:44:54 GrueMaster, ouch Oct 05 19:23:48 GrueMaster: Did you have an open bug for the "no swap" thing? Oct 05 19:23:57 GrueMaster: Going to slide that in right now. Oct 05 19:24:13 I'll look Oct 05 19:25:19 ogra_: Did you have any urge to have swap on ac100? ac100-tarball-installer doesn't currently look for and enable it. Oct 05 19:25:32 ogra_: (Right now, I'm just enabling it for jasper-using images) Oct 05 19:30:09 infinity: I could have sworn I had a bug filed on that, but I'm not turning up anything. Will try google. Oct 05 19:31:53 I see nothing filed by you... Oct 05 19:35:29 I don't even see where it was removed in jasper. Oct 05 19:36:15 Wait, Revno 119 removed it from jasper and added it to livecd-rootfs. Oct 05 19:36:34 And I guess it was never enabled in the new image build tool. Oct 05 19:37:22 Right, which is what I'm fixing. Oct 05 19:37:44 Well, what I've fixed. Was just curious if you had a bug to reference in the changelog. :P Oct 05 19:37:47 Which would be nice. Oct 05 19:38:06 * infinity goes to find a drink and see if a Tobinish bug appears while he's gone. :) Oct 05 19:38:14 Should I create one? Oct 05 19:38:23 ok Oct 05 19:43:13 Bug #868662 for you to play with. Oct 05 19:43:15 Launchpad bug 868662 in live-build "Switching to live-build dropped swap file creation on preinstalled images" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/868662 Oct 05 19:51:41 GrueMaster: Thanks, fix uploaded. Oct 05 19:52:17 I find myself wondering if your oem-config* issues are just bad timing with the fact that (ana)cron is still running during the install. Oct 05 19:52:29 I'd hoped to fix that in ubiquity, but I might be running out of time. Oct 05 19:52:41 very possible. Oct 05 19:53:18 Still annoying that I can't reproduce. Could just be because I have faster SD cards, so the timing is different. Oct 05 19:54:12 Define "faster". I have everything from class 4 to class 10, 4G-16G. Oct 05 19:54:26 Different brands even. Oct 05 19:54:41 My testing is mostly on a 32G Lexar class 10, which actually seems to perform faster than the box should suggest. Oct 05 19:55:23 But s/faster/different/ is all it takes for timing issues, really. Oct 05 19:55:43 Ah, well I don't have any of the extremely big ones. Cost too much still. Oct 05 19:57:14 I actually think it may be more of a kernel issue than an actual SD card issue. Same cards work fine on beagle. I even have tried the microSD cards in an adapter. Oct 05 20:32:41 sebjan: ping Oct 05 20:40:14 skaet: for tomorrow's RC and Cloud Images....did we want to promote a daily build or not? Oct 05 20:40:45 utlemming, yes we'll want to promote the daily builds to the iso tester. Oct 05 20:54:03 is there any word on getting mongodb to work properly on here? Oct 05 20:54:20 I built it by hand but it's got bugs and won't start up Oct 05 21:06:43 brandini, which version? Oct 05 21:06:48 the one in oneiric? Oct 05 21:06:57 do you have a bug link in LP? Oct 05 21:08:06 brandini, if not, please file one with details and add tag arm-porting-queue to it Oct 05 21:29:57 Erm, haven't we talked about it before? Oct 05 21:30:11 hi# Oct 05 21:30:13 mongodb needs serious upstream love to support anything !x86. Oct 05 21:30:14 hi Oct 05 21:31:00 Trying to get HDMI working with my pandaboard on my HDMI tv. It doesnt seem to autodetect the edid and set the sscreen correctly Oct 05 21:31:09 anyone have any suggestions on what I could do? Oct 05 21:31:35 stephen_: Which Ubuntu release? Oct 05 21:31:37 brandini / janimo: Oct 05 21:31:38 The mongodb server depends on both little-endianness and unaligned memory Oct 05 21:31:38 access, which I believe means it can only work on i386 and amd64. We believe Oct 05 21:31:41 that the mongodb will be useful even it is not available for all Debian Oct 05 21:31:44 supported platforms. Oct 05 21:31:56 Im running natty 11.04 Oct 05 21:32:16 (pandaboard precompiled image) Oct 05 21:32:20 stephen_: Is the TV pluggged in when you boot? Hot-plugging HDMI seems to be a bit iffy here. Oct 05 21:32:26 I just hit an oddity. Switched my keyboard/mouse to a different system, and it reported caps-lock opposite of the keyboard LED. Oct 05 21:32:33 all plugged in on boot yeh Oct 05 21:33:04 my TV is slightly older, only supports 720p Oct 05 21:33:24 (I need HDMI mode 16 I believe, 1280x720@50Hz) Oct 05 21:33:25 stephen_: You might try the latest daily for Oneiric. A lot of changes have been made to the edid code. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current Oct 05 21:34:11 ah I wasnt aware one of those was avilable yet :) I'll certainly give that a shot. If not, where is a good resource for bootargs Oct 05 21:34:30 I was having a look around, but the wiki I saw was a bit light Oct 05 21:35:31 I'll have to look for the bootargs, but I think they are on omappedia.org Oct 05 21:36:59 for bootargs, when I create a boot.scr would I just need the opne arg, or are there other trimmings requred? Oct 05 21:37:20 You shouldn't need any args at all, unless autodetection still fails us. Oct 05 21:38:19 infinity: On some sets it may. Hence why I suggested using Oneiric as a test first. Oct 05 21:39:35 I will be giving oneric a shot as soon as I can. After that Ill pop back if I don't have any luck Oct 05 21:40:12 Im expecting that it wont work, as my TV is probably a bit useless. Oct 05 21:40:29 I just had a look at boot.script in my /boot directory Oct 05 21:40:36 Ok, so I think I'm going to start putting my abilities to getting ubuntu arm on the android toshiba thrive... Oct 05 21:40:58 is it just a plain text file, or will I be needing to use the boot.scr way (I forgot the exact commands) Oct 05 21:41:26 AustereGrim: Cool. Good luck. If you succeed maybe we can add it to our community images next cycle. Oct 05 21:42:08 GrueMaster I hope, it's more of a hopeful endeavour, I just don't see me needing to make another android image that someone else is already doing the same thing... Oct 05 21:44:48 stephen_: The link you want for the display parameters is http://omappedia.org/wiki/Bootargs_for_enabling_display Oct 05 21:46:38 ah i see Oct 05 21:47:40 omapfb.mode=1280x720MR-24@50 Oct 05 21:47:48 is that what I would likely want? Oct 05 21:54:47 Possibly. Not sure about your system. Oct 05 21:55:10 got a second grue? Oct 05 21:57:42 for HDMI is it more likely that sort of thing, or setting omapfb.hdmimode Oct 05 21:58:25 MrCurious: Barely, what's up? Oct 05 22:00:31 stephen_: I think the omapfb.mode is what you want, but I'm not really sure. Oct 05 22:00:42 was thinking about reinstalling pandaboard ubuntu and was wondering if the usb speed fix has made it into the distro's yet and if you knew Oct 05 22:00:45 thanks anyway :) Oct 05 22:00:53 ill try oneric, then experiment :) Oct 05 22:01:53 MrCurious: It is in Maverick-updates and Oneiric. I have to test Natty-proposed as soon as it comes up (this week I hope). Oct 05 22:02:32 awesome Oct 05 22:03:01 so i just have to be a little more patient :) Oct 05 22:04:32 MrCurious: Or just install oneiric and help test. ;) Oct 05 22:05:07 is Oneiric a 11.10 variant? Oct 05 22:05:21 One and the same. Oct 05 22:05:49 then i definitely need to give it a test run (in a week when the fix i hang on is in) Oct 05 22:06:20 MrCurious: Hrm? Oct 05 22:06:23 MrCurious: What fix is that? Oct 05 22:06:28 usb speed Oct 05 22:06:31 MrCurious: It's in. Oct 05 22:06:33 Maverick=10.10, Natty=11.04, Oneiric=11.10, and as of today, Precise=12.04. Oct 05 22:06:33 hard disk/camera Oct 05 22:06:58 MrCurious: It's only natty where the fix is lagging. It's been in oneiric for ages. Oct 05 22:07:05 MrCurious: It is in on the Oneiric builds for a few weeks now. Oct 05 22:07:28 then i have something for this weekend. locating its download spot now :) Oct 05 22:08:13 MrCurious: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current. Oct 05 22:08:33 Even has working audio. Oct 05 22:08:40 even better, but i was only about 2 clicks away from there, and i lost the race :( Oct 05 22:09:46 thanks, will cry and complain once i get it installed :P Oct 05 22:10:01 that was funnier before i typed it Oct 05 22:11:14 I'll go put on my ignoring IRC pants. Oct 05 22:11:44 guess i wont be quitting that day job any time soon Oct 05 22:19:39 heh Oct 05 22:20:20 hey how do you get into single user mode on the pandaboard? Oct 05 22:21:38 Single user mode? I would guess it is the same on any Ubuntu platform (not that I know what that is). Oct 05 22:23:13 MrCurious: If you ask any silly questions, I will be forced to make you listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIPWGAzEZlA Oct 05 22:23:16 :P Oct 05 22:23:53 I was reading about that... in the creation of a live cd. Oct 05 22:24:02 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization if it helps Oct 05 22:24:16 uhm single user mode... Oct 05 22:25:13 "Removing the (Casper) Autologin" ? Oct 05 22:25:23 or reverse of that? Oct 05 22:25:42 GrueMaster: with uboot? Oct 05 22:26:29 or is that something different than what you're looking for zul? Oct 05 22:27:34 something different i changed a permission on a file that i shouldnt have and now i cant login i need a way to init=/bin/sh with ubuntu Oct 05 22:27:43 s/ubuntu/uboot/g Oct 05 22:27:54 ah... i get you... sorry. Oct 05 22:27:58 infinity, thanks, had no idea they were so non-portable. I wonder if it was a consciously made trade-off or it just happened Oct 05 22:28:28 maybe in order to dealwith their bson format they do byte level manipulation or it is too slow Oct 05 22:28:36 zul: SD or USB drive? OYu can just mount the device on a pc (running linux) and reedit the file. Oct 05 22:29:03 GrueMaster: sd card i dont have an sd reader handy Oct 05 22:29:26 Ah. Oct 05 22:30:47 janimo: I imagine it could be ported (but perhaps with non-portable DB formats, which is fairly common for that sort of thing), but I also suspect it would be some Serious Effort. Oct 05 22:31:48 infinity, their focus is probably speed (that's what I keep hearing about mongo) so they do not even consider ARM for the moment Oct 05 22:31:53 janimo: thanks for the reply Oct 05 22:31:57 I'm running daily Oct 05 22:32:05 janimo: ARM likes speed! Oct 05 22:32:26 janimo: But yeah. I don't think it's a "throw a few hours at the problem" deal, I think it's a "get deeply involved upstream and seriously think it through" thing. Oct 05 22:32:32 brandini, see what infinity said, that is likely more helpful than what I said. Still a bug in LP as a reminder/tracker would not hurt, maybe even linked to an upstram bug if it exists Oct 05 22:32:48 infinity, well fox likes grapes too Oct 05 22:33:08 janimo: Is that a Romanian saying? Oct 05 22:33:10 janimo: they have a bug filed in their tracker Oct 05 22:33:14 they being mongodb Oct 05 22:33:21 infinity, hmm, I think it is from one of Aesoph's fables Oct 05 22:33:33 fox saying grapes wee sour after it could not reach them Oct 05 22:33:42 but regardless, probably a bad analogy Oct 05 22:34:14 are there alternative nosql DB's that run on arm? Oct 05 22:34:16 as in ARM likes speed, but cannot attain it at the level x86 does these days Oct 05 22:34:37 brandini, couchdb does Oct 05 22:34:43 excellent Oct 05 22:34:56 brandini: By "nosql", you mean not SQL, or not an RDBMS server? Oct 05 22:35:00 casandra and other java based ones are affected by java itself being slow and buggy on ARM Oct 05 22:35:04 open source java that is Oct 05 22:35:25 java, slow? buggy? nooo... that can't be... . Oct 05 22:35:32 (And it also depends on how you want to access it... If via libraries and bindings is cool, the options are endless...) Oct 05 22:35:50 BDB and SQLite being the two usual choices, though. Oct 05 22:35:52 ugh, an apache project :) Oct 05 22:40:18 how well does couchdb run on the pandaboard? Oct 05 22:40:28 I can give it an SSD to store its data on :) Oct 05 22:45:04 grue: little fluffy clouds rocks Oct 05 22:46:54 perhaps the worse version of the song, but at the same time intriguing Oct 05 22:49:02 wow! even a surprise ending Oct 05 22:49:12 sounded a bit jordi to me Oct 06 01:46:07 infinity, ping? Oct 06 02:01:00 jcrigby: Sup? Oct 06 02:01:30 infinity, I had a question really stupid question google did not help Oct 06 02:01:38 but I figured it out Oct 06 02:01:53 Now I'm curious. :) Oct 06 02:02:03 to target -proposed in an upload you just put the -proposed in the changelong Oct 06 02:02:05 duh Oct 06 02:02:14 oneiric-proposed Oct 06 02:02:23 I didn't know that Oct 06 02:02:58 This is me not laughing. Oct 06 02:03:10 now I am Oct 06 02:04:45 it finally occured to me when I saw some -proposed names listed with other release names and then I realized its just a different release sorta Oct 06 02:04:49 hmm. trying to set up my new mx53 with oneiric but all of these instructions seem to assume you're flashing stuff onto the microsd card instead of installing from, like, the same machine. Oct 06 02:04:54 is this possible at all? :) Oct 06 02:05:12 or do I need to get a second computer with an sd reader involved Oct 06 02:05:37 dash: If you have a micro->regular SD adaptor, you can write to the SD from the same machine. :P Oct 06 02:05:44 dash, quick start has two card slots Oct 06 02:05:48 dash: But our installer is meant to install from microSD, yes. Oct 06 02:05:59 jcrigby: You can only boot from micro. Oct 06 02:07:19 sorry, I mean: it's booted from the microsd card Oct 06 02:07:32 i don't see how to install a new kernel from there, though. Oct 06 02:07:52 the postinst script for the kernel package fails Oct 06 02:08:03 Installing a new kernel on the Freescale-provided image is non-trivial. Oct 06 02:08:10 aaah. Oct 06 02:08:11 It's sitting in raw unpartitioned space. Oct 06 02:08:18 okay that makes sense. Oct 06 02:08:22 You're better off using our image, which is much more sane. :P Oct 06 02:08:29 so i shouild reflash it with a linaro image and then do things. Oct 06 02:08:35 great, now i get it. :D Oct 06 02:08:36 s/linaro/ubuntu/ Oct 06 02:08:46 infinity: oh. OK cool Oct 06 02:08:47 * infinity notes the channel name. Oct 06 02:09:00 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/oneiric-preinstalled-desktop-armel+mx5.img.gz Oct 06 02:09:04 infinity: nice Oct 06 02:09:12 Or if you wanted server.... Oct 06 02:09:29 Oh. We don't do mx5 for server. Oct 06 02:09:32 So, don't want that. Oct 06 02:09:37 Enjoy the desktop image! ;) Oct 06 02:09:41 hee Oct 06 02:09:59 won't be the first desktop image I have deinstalled stuff from. :) Oct 06 02:10:01 thanks! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 06 02:59:56 2011