**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 28 02:59:57 2011 Oct 28 03:41:44 TF101 Ubuntu .. does that work with NVIDIA graphics drivers? Oct 28 03:53:23 CodeWar: no Oct 28 03:54:08 lilstevie, darn!!! Oct 28 04:03:55 CodeWar: if you run the 2.6.38 ChromeOS kernel, allegely it can Oct 28 04:04:18 Note that I mean the linux4tegra driver; the TF101 hardware has nothing to do with conventional nvidia (nv/nouveau) GPU driver Oct 28 04:04:29 twb, understood Oct 28 04:16:38 I love how you say allegedly twb, no, it can, 2.6.38 is the requirement Oct 28 04:16:59 I say allegedly because *I* haven't reproduced the success Oct 28 04:19:06 lul Oct 28 04:22:37 As if your schooling is more important than my toy Oct 28 18:08:08 Hello. Does 11.10 have fully working to-opam4-addons package? whenever I try to decode an h.264 movie, I get what appears to be a board lock up, and have to do a system reset. Oct 28 18:08:49 (is running panda board). the #pandaboard folks mentioned 11.10 does not have a fully working ppa package, but I can indeed apt-get install ti-opap4-addons or whatever Oct 28 18:17:44 Yeah, but the ti-omap-addons package in the oneiric PPA is empty currently. Oct 28 18:22:53 infinity: ah, sorry about that. Thanks for the info Oct 28 18:22:54 that explains why I could install it, but it had no effect Oct 28 18:22:54 I was confused ;) Oct 28 18:23:16 is there an announcement mailing list or website I could follow so I know when something like that becomes available? Oct 28 18:23:44 Not that I know of. Oct 28 18:23:57 installing the natty .deb won't work? Oct 28 18:24:23 No, the natty stuff will die a horrible death on oneiric from what I understand. Oct 28 18:24:36 ok Oct 28 18:24:55 when was the last time someone tested? Oct 28 18:25:11 the package shouldnt be empty but pull in the sgx drivers Oct 28 18:25:17 as in, if it was tested at the time of beta, things might have changed? Oct 28 18:25:20 if its actually empty, talk to TI Oct 28 18:25:24 they maintain the PPA Oct 28 18:27:05 forgive me as I am returning to linux after a long long break, so Im unsure how I can browse the contents of the ppa archive for 11.10 Oct 28 18:27:10 but id be curious to check Oct 28 18:27:19 well, use a browser :) Oct 28 18:27:37 there should be aq link somewhere "package details" or some such Oct 28 18:27:50 ah, ok. Oct 28 18:28:01 thanks :) Oct 28 18:28:03 * vade sheepish :P Oct 28 18:29:26 And yeah, ubuntu-omap4-extras is still an empty package in oneiric. Oct 28 18:29:31 They really should fix that. Oct 28 18:29:41 beyond that, if you are missing bits, TI owns the PPA, we dont do anything in it Oct 28 18:30:59 (so you should contact them about it ... i.e. in #pandaboard *g*) Oct 28 18:32:50 oh, man, runaround time :D Oct 28 18:32:51 haha Oct 28 18:32:52 thanks Oct 28 18:35:36 well, the guys caring for the PPA are in both channels anyway, so it doesnt matter Oct 28 18:35:59 but that people from #pandaboard send you here wont change that :) Oct 28 18:36:51 ha, fair enough :) are there any other tips besides installing the add ons to help get the board running as fast as possible? I read about disabling swap, and moving the root fs to a USB keychain since the MMC card reader is notoriously slow Oct 28 18:37:27 well, i doubt a "keychain" is much faster than SD, use a real disk rather Oct 28 18:37:52 fair enough. Oct 28 18:57:35 has the startup tasks moved somewhere else in ubuntu 11.10 for ARM releases? Oct 28 18:58:01 no, why would they ? Oct 28 18:58:36 hmm...wasnt able to find under system settings Oct 28 18:59:13 11.10 running on my panda Oct 28 19:00:34 should be there though Oct 28 19:01:28 you mean "startup applications" right ? Oct 28 19:01:43 * ogra_ has it if he clicks on the little gear Oct 28 19:01:53 directly in the menu Oct 28 19:04:38 yes...I have a shell script I want run when ubuntu boots Oct 28 19:04:52 * nhg looks for a "little gear" Oct 28 19:05:29 top right, near your username in the top menu Oct 28 19:05:34 'startup applications' Oct 28 19:06:36 ahh...they moved it there...ok...thanks! Oct 28 19:07:00 wow I sort of helped someone , day 2 on the platform. ha Oct 28 19:07:14 it looks like a flower more than a cog imo Oct 28 19:07:19 or something Oct 28 19:07:28 cog. totally a cog Oct 28 19:07:29 :P Oct 28 19:08:22 a poppy or something Oct 28 19:08:39 vade_: day 1 for me...thanks Oct 28 20:07:54 has starting vsftpd type services on 11.10 changed? I couldnt get my ftp server to start yet. Oct 28 20:11:17 * ogra_ has no idea Oct 28 20:11:25 and i doubt its arm realted at all :) Oct 28 20:13:00 http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/index.php/view/99999908 Oct 28 20:13:10 ok...I'll dig around Oct 28 20:24:59 nhg: I got that issue with ssh as well, running services ssh start Oct 28 20:25:03 er, that output Oct 28 20:25:08 but, then ssh started Oct 28 20:25:16 try running it via "services" perhaps? Oct 28 22:10:35 So, I am running some OpenGL ES demos on my panda board, but I am getting an issue where libEGL.so is not being found. under Ubuntu 11.10 I know that not all of the multimedia support for panda board is active, but that graphics ought to be. However, I can only find the mesa gl drivers Oct 28 22:11:51 oh. DO I need to copy the Lib EGL.so out of the ImgTek SDK into /lib ? Oct 28 22:11:51 yippie Oct 28 22:11:52 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2011-October/000154.html Oct 28 22:11:53 * vade_ derps Oct 28 22:11:54 finally Oct 28 22:12:39 vade_, the TI PPA has everything you need, what are you fiddling with there ? Oct 28 22:13:51 well, on 11.10, apparently it doesn't have multimedia :P but, I've installed the TI PPA "ubuntu-omap4-extras, and do not have a libEGL.so anywhere accessible, and the imgtek OpenGL demos all fail to launch Oct 28 22:14:10 did you install the -dev packages from the PPA ? Oct 28 22:14:14 there should be some Oct 28 22:14:52 I followed the read me /wiki setup guide and installed the add-ons via the icon in the sidebar in Ubuntu 11.10 pre made image Oct 28 22:15:14 right, that does get you the support, but you want to develop ... Oct 28 22:15:19 libegl1-sgx-omap4: /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1 Oct 28 22:15:24 look around in the PPA Oct 28 22:15:38 well, why do I need the SO to *run* binaries Oct 28 22:16:02 R_Nev: ls: cannot access /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1: No such file or directory Oct 28 22:16:29 I just don't get why the PPA / extras did not install this :| Oct 28 22:16:31 i dont think that path applies in oneiric, we added multiarch support Oct 28 22:16:57 should be /usr/lib//libEGL.so.1 Oct 28 22:17:10 I only have mesa libEGL.so.1 Oct 28 22:17:26 usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/mesa-egl/libEGL.so.1 Oct 28 22:17:36 (and no EGL2) Oct 28 22:17:45 well, talk to TI :) Oct 28 22:17:51 * vade_ sighs Oct 28 22:17:51 we dont maintain whats in the PPA Oct 28 22:17:56 ok Oct 28 22:18:05 circles circles circles Oct 28 22:18:07 :P Oct 28 22:18:07 or talk to rsalveti if you can catch him ... Oct 28 22:18:25 or robclark, though i dont think he was involved in the packaging for oneiric Oct 28 22:19:24 I don't think the package is multiarch-enabled already Oct 28 22:19:50 fwiw, I remember some debate about whether or not to have the .so symlinks.. Oct 28 22:20:06 I think it is debian package guidelines (or something like that) to not have the .so? Oct 28 22:20:23 (I wasn't directly involved in that.. this is just what I vaguely remember overhearing..) Oct 28 22:20:25 libegl1-sgx-omap4: /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1.7.9.0 Oct 28 22:20:26 the .so should always be there Oct 28 22:20:32 and /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1 as a link Oct 28 22:20:37 but be a symlink to the versioned .so Oct 28 22:20:41 right Oct 28 22:20:42 weird. I do not have that. Oct 28 22:20:43 the ".so" is only part of the -dev package Oct 28 22:20:48 i remember manually editing the sources.list files to get the packages, but this was with a 11.10 daily build before the official version Oct 28 22:20:49 oh. Oct 28 22:21:00 so I *need* the dev package. thats odd. Oct 28 22:21:03 (I'm my mind) Oct 28 22:21:03 rsalveti, thats what i meant above :) Oct 28 22:21:19 vade_, well, you dont need the .so to run stuff Oct 28 22:21:22 only to build it Oct 28 22:21:24 Id imagine the so would be required by existing binaries and not just interesting to developers Oct 28 22:21:35 oh. (sorry, Mac developer, I did not know that) Oct 28 22:21:38 I believe you need it to run the img tests Oct 28 22:21:46 as they are generally compiled against a .so lib Oct 28 22:21:48 yea, I picked some stuff that required it. Oct 28 22:21:57 I know, stupid, but they don't care about a valid soname Oct 28 22:22:01 ok. I will find the dev packages and try again Oct 28 22:22:08 thank you all for your help Oct 28 22:22:24 a semi-related question I had, is libGLES_CM.so or libGLESv1_CM.so the official library name to link against? Oct 28 22:22:29 rsalveti, we should really default to install -dev as well then Oct 28 22:23:16 ok, so, what is the "dev" package I need to install then ? :X https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/omap-trunk (see nothing here) Oct 28 22:23:21 ogra_: well, it's only the demo applications from the sgx sdk Oct 28 22:23:22 ddk Oct 28 22:23:48 vade_: use the stable ppa for 11.10 Oct 28 22:24:12 isn't that just apt-get install ubuntu-omap4-extras ? Oct 28 22:25:30 sorry this link https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/release?field.series_filter=oneiric Oct 28 22:25:38 (had pasted the wrong one) Oct 28 22:26:27 libegl1-sgx-omap4-dev Oct 28 22:26:54 where did you see that ? Oct 28 22:29:59 I guess my question is, how am I supposed to know I need to install that Oct 28 22:31:47 I think 'apt-file search' should be able to tell you that (after you install it and it updates it's index) Oct 28 22:37:12 wait, so I need to install it so I can search to see if I need to install it? :P Oct 28 22:37:55 something like that ;-) Oct 28 22:38:13 * robclark finds it quite useful when you aren't really sure which deb you need to install Oct 28 22:38:43 zyga, stop discussing with lkcl ! it wont get you anywhere Oct 28 22:39:11 (he might be brilliant, but in the end he's just a troll) Oct 28 22:39:43 (and far from being as good and entertaining as mru is :) ) Oct 28 22:45:11 rsalveti: is this installing some kernel modules too ? Oct 28 22:45:11 (seems like this is installing a ton of stuff) Oct 28 22:45:43 it should run dkms to compile the modules on the fly Oct 28 22:46:42 I guess (and this is a running theme tonight) that I am a bit confused why that needs kernel modules but, whatever :) Oct 28 22:53:40 it needs a kernel module like intel, nvidia or ati do Oct 28 22:53:43 ha, well, now its complaining about libEGLv2 Oct 28 23:07:04 ogra_, I stopped already ;-) Oct 28 23:07:16 ogra_, thanks for the tip :-) Oct 28 23:07:33 ogra_, packing or already there? Oct 28 23:10:21 ok, all I can say is my desktop is about a billion times faster after installing the libegl1-sgx-omap4-dev Oct 28 23:49:45 nice Oct 28 23:50:07 installing libgles2-sgx-omap4-dev and libegl1-sgx-omap4-dev now means I can lunch the imgtek SDK examples Oct 28 23:50:10 whew Oct 28 23:50:12 goddamn Oct 28 23:53:45 this has made he panda board so much more usable, even with the 11.10 UI Oct 28 23:58:45 clearly those two apt-get installs installed something that ubuntu-ompap4-extras did not wtt to something the main OS/windowserver wanted Oct 28 23:58:49 because its so much smoother now. Oct 29 00:11:05 interesting Oct 29 00:11:23 Navigation3D binary example crashed the board Oct 29 01:47:15 vade_: you can open bugs against https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-omap4-extras-graphics if you like Oct 29 02:25:05 is set_robust_list() supposed to return -ENOSYS on arm? (tegra) Oct 29 02:32:54 (i want to use ykchalresp there, but - i assume bc it is linked against pthreads - it ends up calling set_robust_list and dying htere) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 29 02:59:56 2011