**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 02 02:59:57 2011 Nov 02 03:00:31 is there a way to add a compatible repository to a Jaunty machine that will allow me to download PHP 5 and MySQL and the required apache plugins? Nov 02 03:00:49 since Jaunty is no longer supported I can't use apt Nov 02 03:02:13 Crisco: jaunty repos might be available on whatever the archive repo host is called Nov 02 03:02:30 Although it would be better to upgrade to a supported release if you can Nov 02 03:02:47 I'm not sure if I can Nov 02 03:03:32 I'll try, but from what I've seen the SheevaPlug is pretty tempermental when it comes to upgrading or changing distrobution Nov 02 03:03:56 Oh yeah, those Nov 02 03:04:01 Good luck with that :-/ Nov 02 03:04:22 Although you can ignore the mtd and tell u-boot to just boot a supported release off USB Nov 02 03:04:50 Way back when they first came out, I did that to get Debian to boot, because Debian didn't support mtd at the time (maybe still doesn't?) Nov 02 03:17:21 I really don't want to change my install... Nov 02 03:18:11 it took a while to get everything (znc, supybot, apache, dyndns-update, various other tools) running together Nov 02 03:18:21 I think I'm going to look for another repo Nov 02 03:19:00 Sure, I'm just putting that idea on the table Nov 02 03:19:58 if it becomes too much of a hassle to do this, I might just copy all my configuration files and upgrade to debian Nov 02 13:57:37 Hey folks, does anyone know if there is accelerated graphics support for the Freescale Quickstart board (imx53) under oneiric? It seems graphically very slow . Nov 02 14:00:29 Hello folks Nov 02 14:01:14 I was just wondering what is the status of Ubuntu running on Raspberry Pi Nov 02 14:01:59 Previously it was stated that it would be running Ubuntu, but apparently for some reason they've taken that statement back Nov 02 14:02:34 "Because of issues with newer releases of Ubuntu and the ARM processor we are using, Ubuntu can’t commit to support Raspberry Pi at the moment." from the FAQ of the RaspberryPi Nov 02 14:03:10 Would anyone like to clarify what these "issues" are and how much worl would it require to get Ubuntu running on the device? Nov 02 14:05:28 I would definitely want to get a couple of these magnificent devices and help debugging and developing - if it is not impossible Nov 02 14:10:14 WaltherFI, well, the raspberry is simply not armv7, ubuntu only supported non v7 for the first two releases of the arm port ... and that only because it took that time to make everything default to v7 Nov 02 14:10:20 WaltherFI, we wont go back Nov 02 14:11:27 in fact we even go further with it this release by dropping support for soft floatingpoint operations Nov 02 14:12:37 mhm. How hard would it be to make it work? i.e., what would it require? Nov 02 14:13:35 WaltherFI: recompiling the whole ubuntu Nov 02 14:14:00 WaltherFI, a team of say 5 people working fulltime on it to port the archive back to v5, about 5 really fast arm buildmachines, diskspace on the archive servers Nov 02 14:14:22 thats just over the thumb Nov 02 14:14:29 okay, thanks Nov 02 14:14:36 in the end the answer is money Nov 02 14:14:48 hm... would it be possible through a virtual machine of some sort the? Nov 02 14:14:52 it would hardly require 5 people unless you quote a consulting company ;) Nov 02 14:15:00 just curious, I lack quite much in knowledge Nov 02 14:15:41 WaltherFI, well, its like someone releases a new board with a true i386 chip and actually expects suse, fedora or ubuntu to run on that Nov 02 14:16:23 i think debian and gentoo would be the only ones actually still running on a true i386 Nov 02 14:17:02 (though i would expect a lot of work to make all gentoo builds actually ignore the newer instruction sets) Nov 02 14:17:20 Just curious, how come it runs fedora and arch - and debian? Nov 02 14:17:35 I know ubuntu is not essentially debian, but debian-based Nov 02 14:17:38 they all didnt optimize for the recent arm arches Nov 02 14:18:09 yes, thats why our first arm release was actualy supporting the same set of cpu's as debian does Nov 02 14:18:37 hm. I have to go now, but let's continue this discussion later Nov 02 14:18:54 I would love to see Ubuntu running on that board, one way or another Nov 02 14:19:10 suihkulokki: It would take several people to fix build issues and test thestack to make sure everything works. Nov 02 14:19:24 I think I recall seeing something like chrooting to debian or fedora on top of maemo smartphone Nov 02 14:19:59 WaltherFI: Maemo smart phones are armv7 core. Nov 02 14:20:11 ahh, that explains Nov 02 14:20:18 anyway, be back later Nov 02 14:20:24 GrueMaster: the same software compiles and runs fine as armv5 on debian... Nov 02 14:21:18 suihkulokki: All 14k packages and libraries? Have they been tested? Does Banshee (for example) run? Nov 02 14:21:25 ogra_: which release drops softfp Nov 02 14:22:00 i know that marcos have tested to run banshee on armhf and it fail (gray screen) Nov 02 14:22:06 debian-armhf Nov 02 14:22:28 fader, there's no publicaly available accelerated graphics stack for mx53 unfortunately Nov 02 14:22:41 GrueMaster: thats a silly compare since it doesn't work on ubuntu armv7 either =) Nov 02 14:22:49 you can use the factory image that is shipped with the board on sd card I guess Nov 02 14:23:27 I fixed it last Wednessday on theflight down, but I still need to do more testing. it will be an SRU soon. Nov 02 14:24:04 suihkulokki: ^^ Nov 02 14:26:02 GrueMaster: is there some reason to believe the fix is armv7 specific? Nov 02 14:27:23 I really can't say, but with the state of mono, it is highly possible. And my fix is more of a workaround. Nov 02 14:27:36 I still have to root cause the issue. Nov 02 14:28:10 Last cycle, we ran into an issue with the mono atomic handler (i.e. there wasn't one for arm). Nov 02 14:29:47 So the true problem with banshee couldvery well be in the mono jit and could be armv7 specific (bad in-line assembly, etc). Nov 02 18:54:23 Hello again Nov 02 19:44:46 Hi Friends, does any one use powerdebug with busybox Filesystem ? Nov 02 19:45:26 not really a typical ubuntu setup Nov 02 19:45:49 (busybox is only used in the initrd in ubuntu) Nov 02 19:48:24 ogra_, yeah , i agree ; i wanted to debug powermangement ; hence i wanted to use busybox ... Nov 02 19:48:59 is there any minimal ubuntu, which is like <100mb .. not much devices like dss, etc active .. any minimal edition ? Nov 02 19:49:42 look for ubuntu-core Nov 02 19:50:07 its a rootfs tarball ... the most minimal OS to run apt by definition Nov 02 19:50:28 ogra_, thanks very much ; i ll check for ubuntu-core .. Nov 02 19:50:57 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/oneiric/release/ Nov 02 19:51:22 note that there is neither a user nor a rootpw, you should chroot into it and at least set a rtootpw before you first boot it Nov 02 19:51:42 avinashhm, if you work on linaro, why dont you use their nano image Nov 02 19:52:46 ogra_, i work on TI .. just wanted to use that tool ; i was not aware of nano image Nov 02 19:53:02 well, not much different from -core Nov 02 20:46:41 lilstevie: I know I am annoying but where be me images? :P Nov 03 00:48:42 any luck with pandaboard and the oneric ti-omap repo? Nov 03 00:49:15 I have added them and installed the packages, seem to have a dependancy issue with ubuntu-extras-multimedia and totem now crashes... Nov 03 01:04:00 I tried ubuntu-Maverick ( 10.10) on pandaboard with 1080p hardware decoder. Nov 03 01:04:11 Does anyone has the same experience ? Nov 03 01:09:20 jkfangTW: if you have a problem, describe the problem Nov 03 01:11:08 twb: I can display 1080p video properly in fullscreen. But it will fail on window-mode, especially when the window is smaller then the actual size of the video. Nov 03 01:11:58 Have you idea why this will happen ? Nov 03 01:14:05 Not me, sorry Nov 03 01:15:27 It's okay. I think a lot people want the patch of this problem...... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 03 02:59:59 2011