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Nov 14 13:51:38 <suihkulokki> oneiric firefox, when being compiled on a machine with linux 3.0 kernel, will fail to compile with:
Nov 14 13:51:42 <suihkulokki> ../coreconf/config.mk:71: ../coreconf/Linux3.0.mk: No such file or directory
Nov 14 13:51:50 <suihkulokki> fun :)
Nov 14 13:52:10 <ogra_> oh, could you file a bug, our buildds all use old kernels
Nov 14 13:52:47 <ogra_> (yet)
Nov 14 13:52:50 <suihkulokki> looking at it right now
Nov 14 13:53:18 <ogra_> we have some pandas but that are currently all assigned to armhf porting iirc
Nov 14 13:53:40 <ogra_> so trhey havent seen any higher level builds like desktop packages yet
Nov 14 13:53:55 <ogra_> it is expected that we drop all but panda soon though
Nov 14 14:12:09 <punxos> Hi
Nov 14 14:16:46 <punxos> How can "remove" a jump to a tag in a macro ??I to change this code --> http://pastebin.com/CrkXZZJK (tag already defined obvius)
Nov 14 14:21:39 <dmart> punxos: what are you trying to do exactly?  I don't understand from your code
Nov 14 14:22:38 <punxos> this code is inside a macro, so I can't create a tag because the compiler fail due to tag is redefined
Nov 14 14:22:48 <brendand> is it still correct to dd the 11.10 pandaboard image to the SD card? or is a different method used now?
Nov 14 14:24:49 <ogra_> brendand, neither the images nor the method to write tham changed
Nov 14 14:24:53 <ogra_> *them
Nov 14 14:25:01 <ogra_> its the same as 11.04
Nov 14 14:25:43 <brendand> ogra_ - ok, thanks
Nov 14 14:26:10 <dmart> punxos: so, where you say "tag", you mean "label
Nov 14 14:27:33 <dmart> punxos: Is this as assembler macro, or are you working with C inline assembler?
Nov 14 14:29:05 <punxos> assembler macro
Nov 14 14:29:42 <punxos> dmart: I found the solution: add $ to label
Nov 14 14:29:49 <punxos> thx anyway
Nov 14 14:31:43 <dmart> punxos: "dollar local labels" don't work on arm -- though if you have some code where they do appear to work, I'd like to see it
Nov 14 14:31:56 <dmart> 1$
Nov 14 14:31:56 <dmart> ->
Nov 14 14:32:02 <dmart> Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized character is `1'
Nov 14 14:32:22 <punxos> dmart: beq $label
Nov 14 14:32:28 <punxos> $label: some code
Nov 14 14:33:56 <punxos> dmart: sorry not work :(
Nov 14 14:33:59 <dmart> $ is allowed in symbol names on arm -- you haven't really solved the problem there; you just have a different label name when you ass $
Nov 14 14:34:09 <punxos> I dint' do enough checks
Nov 14 14:34:21 <punxos> yes yes
Nov 14 14:34:23 <punxos> sorry
Nov 14 14:34:35 <ogra_> .oO( arm is a british company, try a pound sign instead of a dollar one ;) )
Nov 14 14:34:44 <punxos> xD
Nov 14 14:34:55 <punxos> dmart: this example code-> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.kui0100a/armasm_cegceijg.htm
Nov 14 14:35:53 * dmart doesn't know if UTF-8 is allows in symbol names for £ :P
Nov 14 14:36:00 <ogra_> hehe
Nov 14 14:36:26 <punxos> :D
Nov 14 14:36:32 <dmart> punxos: are you working with the ARM RVCT assembler (armasm) or GNU as?  The syntax for macros is completely different; the example is for armasm
Nov 14 14:37:04 <punxos> arm-none-eabi-
Nov 14 14:37:19 <dmart> OK, so GNU as then
Nov 14 14:41:09 <dmart> punxos: porting that example to GNU as might look something like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/738238/
Nov 14 14:41:52 <punxos> dmart: thanks
Nov 14 14:42:01 <dmart> But I suspect that doesn't quite solve your problem.  Can you paste your actual source code so I can see what you're trying to do?
Nov 14 14:42:38 <punxos> yes 1 sec
Nov 14 14:44:14 <punxos> dmart:
Nov 14 14:44:14 <punxos> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/738241/
Nov 14 14:44:28 <punxos> just update a register if r0 is 0
Nov 14 14:48:56 <punxos> dmart: but this macro is inside other macro due to that your example not work
Nov 14 14:51:49 <Neko> hello ubuntu guys!
Nov 14 14:52:11 <Neko> does anyone know of a particular brand/model of SD card that actually supports erase/secure erase?
Nov 14 14:54:54 <gildean> yes, a drill will securely erase any sd-card
Nov 14 14:55:02 <gildean> the bigger the drillbit the better
Nov 14 14:59:59 <Neko> not useful :D
Nov 14 15:05:03 <dmart> punxos: in this case, you could avoid the branch using conditional assembly
Nov 14 15:05:33 <punxos> mm I dont' know how
Nov 14 15:05:51 <punxos> a short sample please ?
Nov 14 15:09:26 <dmart> punxos: here are some examples of things you can do:
Nov 14 15:09:27 <dmart> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/738263/
Nov 14 15:10:09 <dmart> The GNU assembler documentation is a bit vague about some acpects of macros, but it is worth reading
Nov 14 15:10:53 <dmart> http://sourceware.org/binutils/docs-2.21/as/Macro.html#Macro
Nov 14 15:11:06 <punxos> dmart: oooo thanks very much ! great job
Nov 14 15:13:36 <dmart> hope it helps
Nov 14 15:13:50 <punxos> yes it's perfect :)
Nov 14 15:14:13 <punxos> works perfectly
Nov 14 15:14:41 <dmart> which approach did you choose?
Nov 14 15:15:03 <punxos> beq 1f
Nov 14 15:15:03 <punxos> 1:
Nov 14 15:15:19 <punxos> it's more visual for me
Nov 14 15:16:55 <dmart> That's a good simple solution, and works in a lot of cases.  If your code is performance-critical, you might still want to use conditional instructions; though it really depends on how reliably that branch can be predicted (and the sophistication of branch prediction on the CPU(s) you're targeting)
Nov 14 15:24:41 <robclark> note that if you are building thumb2 (or you want to support thumb2) then see IT instruction instead..
Nov 14 15:40:55 <antoniodariush> Hi
Nov 14 15:41:45 <antoniodariush> I have a beagleboard, can I install ubuntu on it ?
Nov 14 15:42:27 <antoniodariush> well i guess so :)
Nov 14 15:44:11 <ogra_> antoniodariush, depends what version of beagle and which flavour of ubuntu
Nov 14 15:45:14 <antoniodariush> I have a project but running on nanonote so i need to cross compile and use toolchains everytime to compile the software
Nov 14 15:45:17 <ogra_> (you cant easily run ubuntu-desktop on a beagle C4 ... not enough ram, but it will run ubuntu-server fine for example)
Nov 14 15:46:21 <antoniodariush> as long I can avoid cross compilation I am fine with any flavour of ubuntu
Nov 14 15:46:44 <ogra_> right, use -server for this
Nov 14 15:48:03 <antoniodariush> I have a beagleboard-xM
Nov 14 15:48:15 <antoniodariush> ok i'll have a look thanks
Nov 14 15:49:28 <ogra_> even with Xm you want -server unless you actually want to run and use desktop apps ... if its for compiling, -server is the best chouce to not waste resources
Nov 14 15:49:40 <ogra_> *choice
Nov 14 15:52:16 <antoniodariush> yeh that's true
Nov 14 15:52:35 <punxos> dmart: thanks for the info
Nov 14 15:54:57 <dmart> punxos: no problem -- glad it was helpful
Nov 14 17:47:22 <punxos> If a irq is raised when the user is in destination instruction jump. if you do "subs pc.lr,#4" maybe is not true (if the las jump was done). Any can explain me that ?
Nov 14 17:58:58 <slangasek> ogra_, NCommander: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-arm-p-optional-initrd had work items, and now it doesn't - what's the story there? :)
Nov 14 17:59:27 <ogra_> slangasek, NCommander just blindly pasted notes in, while i'm working on the spec atm
Nov 14 17:59:57 <ogra_> (I'm the drafter, ask him why he blindly pastes stuff without talking to me)
Nov 14 18:00:42 <ogra_> slangasek, apw, tim and me had another long session in the hallway later, actually looking at code ... the kernel side changed a bit
Nov 14 18:01:06 <ogra_> so i'm rewriting the stuff atm
Nov 14 18:02:58 <slangasek> hmm
Nov 14 18:03:14 <ogra_> slangasek, i'll finish it by tomorrow, do you want any specific person assigned to the foundations WIs ?
Nov 14 18:03:25 <ogra_> ro should i  just put the team in and leave it to you
Nov 14 18:03:47 <ogra_> *or
Nov 14 18:04:10 <slangasek> the latter is fine
Nov 14 18:04:17 <slangasek> many of these are probably taken by me personally
Nov 14 18:04:31 <ogra_> k
Nov 14 18:12:38 * ogra_ smiles seeing libpam-sshauth in the archive 
Nov 14 18:31:06 <punxos> Hi
Nov 14 19:12:25 <int_ua> Was there an answer to the OMAP3 question? Was it dropped for 12.04?
Nov 14 19:12:39 <ogra_> no, it wasnt
Nov 14 19:12:52 <ogra_> (what was the question though ?)
Nov 14 19:18:54 <GrueMaster> int_ua: The only real question is whether or not to declare no-support for ubuntu-desktop on omap3 based systems with <512M memory.  Currently, running ubuntu-desktop on a Beagle C4 is extremely painful due to swappiness.
Nov 14 19:19:54 <GrueMaster> It takes me over an hour to do any release testing on it alone (other platforms can be smoke tested in 20 minutes).
Nov 14 19:28:08 <int_ua> GrueMaster: I'm running Ubuntu Core on the N900 from class 6 microSD and I wouldn't say that swappiness is a serious problem.
Nov 14 19:28:39 <GrueMaster> Ubuntu-core is not Ubuntu-Desktop (with unity-2d, etc).
Nov 14 19:29:11 <int_ua> GrueMaster: are there daily releases of the Core?
Nov 14 19:29:34 <GrueMaster> Only when core packages change afaik.
Nov 14 19:30:05 <GrueMaster> We may have scaled back image building to 3/week due to armHF bring up.
Nov 14 19:30:34 <int_ua> Where are they published? There are no ARM: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/current/
Nov 14 19:31:48 <GrueMaster> looks like daily/20111112 is the most recent for armel.  We'll need to make sure that they don't get deleted.
Nov 14 19:31:52 <int_ua> GrueMaster: I don't really care getting it _daily_. I care about their existing :)
Nov 14 19:32:04 <GrueMaster> Yes, agreed.
Nov 14 19:32:18 <GrueMaster> infinity: ^^^
Nov 14 19:32:25 <GrueMaster> Any comments?
Nov 14 19:33:26 <infinity> Hrm.  Curious.
Nov 14 19:33:34 <infinity> May be an accidental oops from the cdimage cutover.
Nov 14 19:33:36 <infinity> Or something.
Nov 14 19:33:39 <int_ua> P.S. I've posted a question also: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78875/was-omap3-support-dropped-for-12-04
Nov 14 19:33:57 <infinity> Although, I see armel on the 12th.
Nov 14 19:34:01 <GrueMaster> int_ua: omap3 will not be dropped.
Nov 14 19:34:09 <infinity> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/20111112/
Nov 14 19:34:12 <int_ua> 20111112 is the last daily armel on every palce
Nov 14 19:34:15 <int_ua> *place
Nov 14 19:34:17 <GrueMaster> We went over the question of omap3.
Nov 14 19:35:02 <int_ua> GrueMaster: Thanks :)
Nov 14 19:35:03 <GrueMaster> I will still be actively testing on beagleXM (512M), and am looking to get ubuntu-desktop running on the Nook Color this cycle.
Nov 14 19:35:37 <infinity> int_ua: So it is.  We need to hunt that down, thanks.
Nov 14 19:36:05 <GrueMaster> I would guess possible pool-churn (again).
Nov 14 19:38:17 <infinity> GrueMaster: No.
Nov 14 19:38:24 <infinity> GrueMaster: There aren't even failed build attempts.
Nov 14 19:38:39 <infinity> GrueMaster: I'll look into it.
Nov 14 19:38:45 <GrueMaster> hrm.  That is odd.
Nov 14 19:40:58 <infinity> And more curiously, there are builds on the livefs builders...
Nov 14 19:41:30 <GrueMaster> cdimage full (again)?
Nov 14 19:43:26 <infinity> no.
Nov 14 19:43:31 <infinity> New machine.
Nov 14 19:43:35 <infinity> Also, ubuntu-server built.
Nov 14 19:44:01 <infinity> And ubuntu.
Nov 14 19:44:08 <infinity> Nevermind my claims that nothing was building.
Nov 14 19:44:50 <infinity> Looks like only core is missing.  And logs are missing, but that's a different issue entirely.
Nov 14 19:45:22 <infinity> Oh!
Nov 14 19:45:32 <infinity> annonaceae is dead.
Nov 14 19:45:34 <infinity> I think.
Nov 14 19:45:48 <int_ua> infinity: kubuntu-netbook and kubuntu-mobile are missing too
Nov 14 19:46:17 <infinity> int_ua: kubuntu-netbook is dead.
Nov 14 19:46:26 <GrueMaster> Hrm.  That is a beagleXM buildd.
Nov 14 19:46:28 <infinity> int_ua: kubuntu-mobile is half there.
Nov 14 19:46:51 <infinity> int_ua: (basically, all omap3, mx5, and the -core images are missing, because their buildd went kaput)
Nov 14 19:46:55 <int_ua> infinity: s/kubuntu-netbook/kubuntu/
Nov 14 19:46:56 <GrueMaster> All the *ceae buildds are beagleXMs from linaro iirc.
Nov 14 19:46:56 * infinity chases up with IS now.
Nov 14 19:53:21 <infinity> Okay, annonaceaeaaeaaeee fixed.  Dailies should look more normal tomorrow.
Nov 14 20:02:19 <GrueMaster> heh
Nov 14 20:04:08 <int_ua> Thanks a lot :)
Nov 14 20:06:04 <int_ua> Is Annonaceae a server name?)
Nov 14 20:06:42 <GrueMaster> No, it is one of many buildds in our pool.  It is a beagleXM platform.
Nov 14 20:07:11 <GrueMaster> We build the entire armel pool (arch=armel/armhf) on actual hardware.
Nov 14 20:24:56 <infinity> int_ua: "server" is a pretty liberal use of the word, but it's a hostname, yes.
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