**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 22 02:59:58 2011
Nov 22 03:01:32 <An-iSociaL> now next problem
Nov 22 03:01:38 <An-iSociaL> there's no touch lol
Nov 22 03:03:07 <int_ua> An-iSociaL: What is the touchscreen hardware?
Nov 22 03:03:27 <An-iSociaL> err, i actually dont know
Nov 22 03:03:59 <int_ua> Can you execute lsusb? :)
Nov 22 03:05:27 <An-iSociaL> i would love to
Nov 22 03:05:29 <An-iSociaL> but
Nov 22 03:05:33 <An-iSociaL> no keyboard
Nov 22 03:05:35 <An-iSociaL> lol
Nov 22 03:05:48 <An-iSociaL> let me get adbd installed onto it, then i can use a usb terminal
Nov 22 03:06:09 <An-iSociaL> the only touchscreen enabled in a default config is CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_QUANTUM_OBP
Nov 22 03:06:14 <An-iSociaL> one sec on the lsusb
Nov 22 03:09:28 <An-iSociaL> http://pastebin.com/iRgkqPnF
Nov 22 03:09:39 <An-iSociaL> if youre the nerdy type like me, theres my dmesg log
Nov 22 03:11:28 <int_ua> Offtopic: Why 2.6.36? (I just started reading IRC)
Nov 22 03:14:10 <lilstevie> An-iSociaL: ok, now that patch had my touchscreen patch
Nov 22 03:14:15 <An-iSociaL> its just what was available
Nov 22 03:14:18 <lilstevie> int_ua: because thats what exists
Nov 22 03:14:43 <An-iSociaL> hm lilstevie...
Nov 22 03:14:56 <An-iSociaL> i did all the sections, and reverted one change cuz it broke something
Nov 22 03:15:04 <lilstevie> which one?
Nov 22 03:15:08 <An-iSociaL> so, it should work then
Nov 22 03:15:17 <An-iSociaL> the one you linked
Nov 22 03:15:30 <An-iSociaL> http://www.cactuar.net/uploads/Xoom_Debian/xoomkernel-gnu.patch
Nov 22 03:15:30 <lilstevie> yeah, which change did you revert
Nov 22 03:15:41 <int_ua> lilstevie: I asked because the only kernel I can boot on N900 is 2.6.35. And I don't know the reason yet.
Nov 22 03:15:54 <An-iSociaL> just a define in fb_tegra which was being used by dc.c
Nov 22 03:16:08 <lilstevie> also, YMMV with the touch patch
Nov 22 03:16:12 <lilstevie> revert it
Nov 22 03:16:36 <An-iSociaL> mmk lemme figure out where that is in here...
Nov 22 03:17:07 <lilstevie> ubuntu from natty on, includes handling in evdev for what my patch does, that patch was done because debian doesn't have the same evdev handling
Nov 22 03:17:16 <lilstevie> although it should just be ignored
Nov 22 03:17:30 <An-iSociaL> touchscreen/qtouch_obp_ts.c
Nov 22 03:17:31 <An-iSociaL> ?
Nov 22 03:17:36 <lilstevie> yep
Nov 22 03:17:45 <An-iSociaL> ok and away i go
Nov 22 03:19:32 <lilstevie> bbs
Nov 22 03:19:35 <lilstevie> lunch
Nov 22 03:19:41 <An-iSociaL> k ttyiab
Nov 22 03:20:31 <An-iSociaL> unpatched, compiled, flashed and now we're booting
Nov 22 03:22:57 <An-iSociaL> ugh
Nov 22 03:23:10 <An-iSociaL> still no touch and adbd didnt start
Nov 22 03:23:22 <An-iSociaL> lets try this again
Nov 22 03:26:49 <An-iSociaL> attempted fix on adbd
Nov 22 03:26:55 <An-iSociaL> and im gonna have a smoke
Nov 22 03:29:40 <An-iSociaL> i have touch...
Nov 22 03:29:48 <An-iSociaL> its just... not quite right
Nov 22 03:31:34 <An-iSociaL> and adbd didnt start again :/
Nov 22 03:31:46 <An-iSociaL> is there another way to get a shell over usb?
Nov 22 03:39:49 <An-iSociaL> ok the touch device doesnt seem to register clicks
Nov 22 03:39:55 <An-iSociaL> it thinks theyre mouseovers
Nov 22 03:40:22 <An-iSociaL> and still no adbd
Nov 22 03:40:28 <An-iSociaL> this is going to be difficult
Nov 22 03:42:24 <lilstevie> ok, let me eat
Nov 22 03:42:36 <lilstevie> I will gen a patch of it
Nov 22 03:43:01 <An-iSociaL> oh cool
Nov 22 03:43:20 <An-iSociaL> dont choke cuz you think im waiting tho.. enjoy it
Nov 22 03:43:41 <An-iSociaL> ive been working on this for a solid week and this is the furthest ive been able to get
Nov 22 03:44:10 <lilstevie> heh
Nov 22 03:44:33 <lilstevie> ask twb I don't rush for anyone
Nov 22 03:44:42 <An-iSociaL> lol cool
Nov 22 03:45:02 <lilstevie> btw twb known bug exists on 32GB tfs with u-boot
Nov 22 03:45:32 <twb> sad face
Nov 22 03:45:53 <lilstevie> twb: for some reason it will only rawread, and not read the partition
Nov 22 03:45:57 <twb> I haven't tried your latest .38 with asus bl yet either, because all these 360 games came out last week
Nov 22 03:45:59 <lilstevie> even though it can locate it
Nov 22 03:46:23 <lilstevie> hah
Nov 22 03:46:42 <lilstevie> I want a 360 so i can play fable3
Nov 22 03:46:55 <lilstevie> and new games
Nov 22 03:47:14 <lilstevie> cause my ps3 is 3.55-MFW
Nov 22 03:47:31 <twb> I have a 360 because 1) I've given up on the games industry getting FOSSilized anytime this decade; and 2) it's turn-key.  I don't need to give a shit about h/w drivers or windows licensing or so on
Nov 22 03:48:13 <lilstevie> lol
Nov 22 03:48:33 <lilstevie> I also want to get a slim, and glitch attack it
Nov 22 03:48:42 <lilstevie> linux + games on the 360
Nov 22 03:49:02 <twb> if slim is the new black ones, they have really noisy PSU fans
Nov 22 03:49:13 <An-iSociaL> indeed twb, you can just turn it on and play, no thinking about shit
Nov 22 03:49:23 <An-iSociaL> i enjoy systems like that
Nov 22 03:49:45 <lilstevie> twb: and the old ones were really loud with the exhaust fans
Nov 22 03:49:46 <twb> I would like to play online but then I have to give MS money, and the menus inside teh 360 become much more annoying
Nov 22 03:49:55 <twb> lilstevie: it's a fan inside the power brick
Nov 22 03:50:04 <twb> lilstevie: smaller than the one inside the main case on the white units, i.e. noisier
Nov 22 03:50:14 <twb> lilstevie: I have both units
Nov 22 03:50:26 <lilstevie> heh
Nov 22 03:50:31 <lilstevie> I don't really care
Nov 22 03:51:01 <twb> I guess if you have the volume of the game up it's not noticable
Nov 22 03:51:20 <twb> I usually mute it and read a book via synthesizer
Nov 22 03:52:04 <twb> I would be a lot happier with steam, I think, if ICBF dealing with the non-turn-key-ness
Nov 22 03:53:33 <lilstevie> lol
Nov 22 03:55:14 <twb> Having to shuffle CDs is a pain, and I don't enjoy dealing with the monkeys at the game store
Nov 22 03:59:39 <An-iSociaL> wow finally
Nov 22 04:00:01 <An-iSociaL> http://pastebin.com/CuwfZqxW
Nov 22 04:00:04 <An-iSociaL> lsusb
Nov 22 04:00:08 <An-iSociaL> very short list
Nov 22 04:00:21 <An-iSociaL> i somehow am pretty sure thats wrong
Nov 22 04:00:35 <An-iSociaL> asin incorrect, not misreported
Nov 22 04:02:31 <int_ua> hm
Nov 22 04:03:04 <int_ua> corresponds with dmesg. So it must be connected somewhere else. lspci? lshw?
Nov 22 04:03:22 <An-iSociaL> lemme run those out
Nov 22 04:03:34 <An-iSociaL> im cheating and putting in startup scripts since i cant type lol
Nov 22 04:04:39 <lilstevie> yeah, they don't connect via usb
Nov 22 04:06:32 <An-iSociaL> if i dont get something workable tonight ill go buy a usb adapter tomorrow so i can plugin a keyboard+mouse
Nov 22 04:06:49 <An-iSociaL> just for testing
Nov 22 04:18:53 <An-iSociaL> lspci is empty
Nov 22 04:19:01 <lilstevie> ofc
Nov 22 04:19:06 <An-iSociaL> heres a neat empty lshw
Nov 22 04:19:08 <lilstevie> nothing connects via pci
Nov 22 04:19:09 <An-iSociaL> near*
Nov 22 04:19:26 <An-iSociaL> http://pastebin.com/qJxwEgNf
Nov 22 04:19:34 <lilstevie> yeah, arm connectivity doesn't really show up
Nov 22 04:19:37 <An-iSociaL> seems like nearly nothing is working
Nov 22 04:19:45 <An-iSociaL> ah
Nov 22 04:19:47 <An-iSociaL> mmk
Nov 22 04:19:59 <lilstevie> most things connect via i2c and i2s
Nov 22 04:22:16 <An-iSociaL> ive got alot of work ahead of me here
Nov 22 04:22:28 <An-iSociaL> milestone 1 has passed
Nov 22 04:22:49 <lilstevie> heh
Nov 22 04:23:03 <lilstevie> it doesn't go any quicker either
Nov 22 04:23:11 <lilstevie> I have been working on the tf101 for months
Nov 22 04:25:18 <An-iSociaL> hehehe
Nov 22 04:25:38 <An-iSociaL> well anything gained too easily we esteem too lightly
Nov 22 04:25:47 <An-iSociaL> or somethin like that
Nov 22 04:28:40 <An-iSociaL> once i get this done my next goal is adual kernel
Nov 22 04:30:56 <An-iSociaL> do a pendrive type linux, put it on my evo, run it side by side with android and use the hdmi out for a full desktop
Nov 22 04:31:05 <An-iSociaL> then use a bluetooth keyboard n mouse
Nov 22 04:31:09 <An-iSociaL> tiny pc
Nov 22 04:32:22 <lilstevie> heh good luck with the hdmi part
Nov 22 04:33:14 <An-iSociaL> shouldnt be so difficult, the hdmi under normal linux just shows up as fb1
Nov 22 04:33:28 <An-iSociaL> normal android*
Nov 22 04:33:41 <An-iSociaL> there's just no virtual terminal devices to hook into
Nov 22 04:38:28 <lilstevie> yeah, you would think so
Nov 22 04:38:42 <lilstevie> but at least on my tegra device, it doesn;t really work
Nov 22 04:38:47 <lilstevie> doesn't*
Nov 22 04:40:34 <An-iSociaL> hehe
Nov 22 04:40:46 <An-iSociaL> well its gonna be awhile off before i embark on that
Nov 22 04:40:53 <An-iSociaL> right now im aiming at full ubuntu
Nov 22 04:40:58 <An-iSociaL> then xbmc media center
Nov 22 04:44:46 <lilstevie> you will need accel for that
Nov 22 04:44:58 <lilstevie> and that isn't going to happen with the kernel you are running
Nov 22 04:45:02 <An-iSociaL> yea need to get the nvidia tegra drivers to function
Nov 22 04:45:29 <An-iSociaL> likely try out the android 4.0 kernel for the xbmc build
Nov 22 04:45:38 <An-iSociaL> it should be much more updated
Nov 22 04:47:17 <lilstevie> still may not help
Nov 22 04:47:30 <lilstevie> the android driver interface is different to the L4T interface
Nov 22 04:49:22 <An-iSociaL> hmm
Nov 22 04:49:33 <An-iSociaL> only problem is the damn stingray stuff
Nov 22 04:49:58 <An-iSociaL> as i recall when i was on kernel.org, they have ventana in 3.0
Nov 22 04:50:28 <lilstevie> that doesn't mean anything really
Nov 22 04:50:41 <An-iSociaL> itll help alot
Nov 22 04:50:45 <lilstevie> nearly every device has a different pinmux
Nov 22 05:02:57 <An-iSociaL> hmm
Nov 22 05:03:02 <An-iSociaL> i think its crashing
Nov 22 05:14:02 <An-iSociaL> yes! i have adb shell!
Nov 22 05:14:08 <An-iSociaL> now i can do somehting
Nov 22 05:14:37 <lilstevie> heh
Nov 22 05:27:09 <An-iSociaL> so uhm, hows that lunch there?
Nov 22 05:28:29 <lilstevie> eaten
Nov 22 05:28:41 <lilstevie> got a link to the kernel you use
Nov 22 05:28:46 <lilstevie> like its git
Nov 22 05:29:08 <An-iSociaL> http://code.tiamat-dev.com/tegra2/tiamat-xoom/commits/tiamat
Nov 22 05:29:45 <An-iSociaL> git://code.tiamat-dev.com/tegra2/tiamat-xoom.git
Nov 22 05:29:50 <An-iSociaL> thats the one i cloned
Nov 22 05:36:39 <lilstevie> yeah looking at the touch driver now
Nov 22 05:38:04 <lilstevie> patch out input_set_capability(ts->input_dev, EV_KEY, BTN_2); and                 input_set_abs_params(ts->input_dev, ABS_HAT0X,
Nov 22 05:38:12 <lilstevie> and any other HAT*
Nov 22 05:38:28 <lilstevie> which is                 input_set_abs_params(ts->input_dev, ABS_HAT0Y,
Nov 22 05:38:57 <An-iSociaL> mmk
Nov 22 05:39:03 <lilstevie> and that should do it
Nov 22 05:41:33 <An-iSociaL> sweet
Nov 22 05:41:34 <An-iSociaL> thanks
Nov 22 05:41:42 <An-iSociaL> we'll know in a couple mins
Nov 22 05:43:45 <lilstevie> fingers crossed
Nov 22 05:49:51 <An-iSociaL> and we're booting...
Nov 22 05:50:17 <An-iSociaL> switched cross compilers too, the newer one was playing tricks with my kernel modules
Nov 22 05:50:25 <An-iSociaL> thats a fail
Nov 22 05:50:26 <lilstevie> heh yeah
Nov 22 05:50:32 <lilstevie> awh damn
Nov 22 05:50:43 <lilstevie> ok, have your brought up wifi yet?
Nov 22 05:50:57 <An-iSociaL> cant get it to come up
Nov 22 05:51:38 <An-iSociaL> unable to mount rootfs on unknown block
Nov 22 05:51:38 <lilstevie> ok, insmod <name of wifi mod> firmware_path=/path/to/firmware.bin nvram_path=/path/to/nvram.txt iface_name=wlan0
Nov 22 05:51:39 <An-iSociaL> wth
Nov 22 05:51:54 <lilstevie> and use wpa_supplicant
Nov 22 05:51:55 <An-iSociaL> kernel panic
Nov 22 05:59:34 <lilstevie> ok, well you have adb
Nov 22 05:59:41 <lilstevie> so you can transfer a file
Nov 22 05:59:48 <lilstevie> find the evtest deb
Nov 22 06:00:07 <An-iSociaL> just got the wireless module loaded...
Nov 22 06:00:16 <An-iSociaL> its not coming up anyway
Nov 22 06:00:26 <lilstevie> yeah, you need to use wpa_supplicant
Nov 22 06:00:39 <An-iSociaL> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/armel/evtest
Nov 22 06:00:43 <An-iSociaL> that?
Nov 22 06:00:54 <lilstevie> yep
Nov 22 06:01:14 <lilstevie> figure out which input event is the touchscreen
Nov 22 06:01:29 <lilstevie> (it will be in the dmesg and the Xorg log
Nov 22 06:01:31 <lilstevie> )
Nov 22 06:03:05 <An-iSociaL> ok cool
Nov 22 06:03:22 <An-iSociaL> im goping nuts over here, this thing isnt really setup all that well
Nov 22 06:03:26 <An-iSociaL> going*
Nov 22 06:03:48 <An-iSociaL> can i paste here?
Nov 22 06:03:54 <An-iSociaL> like 2 long lines
Nov 22 06:04:12 <lilstevie> k
Nov 22 06:04:19 <An-iSociaL> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 3214 package 'language-pack-es':
Nov 22 06:04:19 <An-iSociaL>  `Pre-Depends' field, invalid package name `d`kg': character ``' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._')
Nov 22 06:04:27 <An-iSociaL> its jacked
Nov 22 06:04:30 <lilstevie> hm
Nov 22 06:04:37 <lilstevie> odd
Nov 22 06:05:06 <lilstevie> you can always manually extract anyway
Nov 22 06:05:12 <lilstevie> it is an ar archive
Nov 22 06:08:51 <An-iSociaL> Event: time 172.655713, type 1 (Key), code 330 (Touch), value 0
Nov 22 06:09:04 <An-iSociaL> thats me picking my finger up
Nov 22 06:09:09 <lilstevie> ok touch the screen a few times
Nov 22 06:09:13 <lilstevie> move it around a little
Nov 22 06:09:23 <lilstevie> do a two finger touch
Nov 22 06:09:27 <lilstevie> then pastie the result
Nov 22 06:10:15 <An-iSociaL> http://pastebin.com/6236hXgC
Nov 22 06:11:24 <lilstevie> hmm
Nov 22 06:11:30 <lilstevie> the X/Y seem out of bounds
Nov 22 06:12:10 <lilstevie> one finger center of screen on then off
Nov 22 06:13:38 <An-iSociaL> http://pastebin.com/9tx9b2BZ
Nov 22 06:13:43 <An-iSociaL> bout as close as i can guess
Nov 22 06:16:34 <lilstevie> you still have btn_2 and the hat stuff in the driver
Nov 22 06:17:32 <An-iSociaL> its there, just commented
Nov 22 06:17:40 <lilstevie> it isn't :)
Nov 22 06:17:49 <An-iSociaL> not in what im using atm
Nov 22 06:18:00 <lilstevie> if the set_abs_params and set_bit was out it wouldn't show up
Nov 22 06:18:01 <An-iSociaL> the compile from the changes somehow caused a kernel panic
Nov 22 06:18:19 <An-iSociaL> so i reflashed an older kernel image
Nov 22 06:18:40 <An-iSociaL> maybe something went sideways, lemme try again
Nov 22 06:20:39 <lilstevie> with set_bit for those parts evdev generally tries to treat the tsp as a touchpad
Nov 22 06:21:56 <An-iSociaL> attempting to boot
Nov 22 06:22:19 <An-iSociaL> panic
Nov 22 06:22:28 <lilstevie> try going back to that other toolchain
Nov 22 06:22:33 <An-iSociaL> k
Nov 22 06:22:40 <lilstevie> it may be the change in toolchain that screwed it
Nov 22 06:23:34 <An-iSociaL> recompiling
Nov 22 06:25:01 <An-iSociaL> hey i really appreciate the help
Nov 22 06:25:40 <lilstevie> np, I don't mind
Nov 22 06:26:41 <An-iSociaL> rebooting
Nov 22 06:27:12 <An-iSociaL> and panic
Nov 22 06:27:16 <An-iSociaL> thats so weird
Nov 22 06:28:02 <lilstevie> hm
Nov 22 06:28:13 <An-iSociaL> let me try something else
Nov 22 06:28:21 <lilstevie> I helped liv2 with debian too :p
Nov 22 06:28:42 <An-iSociaL> aha
Nov 22 06:28:51 <An-iSociaL> mr smart guy
Nov 22 06:29:46 <An-iSociaL> i still dont know how he did it
Nov 22 06:30:03 <An-iSociaL> my xoom no matter what kernel panics if i try to boot from normal boot partition
Nov 22 06:30:14 <An-iSociaL> if i try to use the sdcard
Nov 22 06:30:31 <An-iSociaL> i have to go through recovery to get access to it
Nov 22 06:31:36 <An-iSociaL> im trying your changes with a modded config, compiling it now, gonna take a bit longer as a lot more things are enabled
Nov 22 06:31:38 <lilstevie> yeah he had to go through recoveery too
Nov 22 06:31:45 <lilstevie> kk
Nov 22 06:32:06 <An-iSociaL> ah, see now in every tutorial i found recovery was never mentioned
Nov 22 06:32:17 <An-iSociaL> it was like ooh magic it works
Nov 22 06:33:37 <lilstevie> heh
Nov 22 06:36:29 <An-iSociaL> building new initrd
Nov 22 06:37:08 <lilstevie> hehk
Nov 22 06:39:07 <An-iSociaL> and we're booting again
Nov 22 06:39:22 <lilstevie> cool
Nov 22 06:39:26 <lilstevie> with the patch?
Nov 22 06:39:26 <An-iSociaL> aha no panic
Nov 22 06:39:38 <An-iSociaL> need to stick with this config...
Nov 22 06:39:41 <An-iSociaL> yep w/patch
Nov 22 06:39:48 <lilstevie> ok cool
Nov 22 06:40:24 <An-iSociaL> im gonna need to put this somewhere
Nov 22 06:40:30 <An-iSociaL> like for people to use
Nov 22 06:40:44 <lilstevie> heh
Nov 22 06:40:46 <lilstevie> git it
Nov 22 06:41:12 <lilstevie> now how is the touch going, or no x yet
Nov 22 06:41:16 <An-iSociaL> sounds like a plan, i would like to host a kernel binary too for people like me who go nuts
Nov 22 06:41:24 <lilstevie> yeah
Nov 22 06:41:24 <An-iSociaL> ok i just tried to click continue
Nov 22 06:41:31 <lilstevie> well thats what I do
Nov 22 06:41:38 <An-iSociaL> it registered a down but not an up
Nov 22 06:41:44 <lilstevie> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191141
Nov 22 06:42:40 <An-iSociaL> ah youre a member too :)
Nov 22 06:44:11 <An-iSociaL> nice work
Nov 22 06:47:15 <An-iSociaL> ugh i lost adb
Nov 22 06:48:40 <lilstevie> hm, don't know how you lost adb
Nov 22 06:48:47 <lilstevie> for me it is something I just cannot kill
Nov 22 06:50:56 <An-iSociaL> its hacked in...
Nov 22 06:51:08 <An-iSociaL> comes up n says cannot bind tcp:5037
Nov 22 06:51:14 <An-iSociaL> hmm
Nov 22 06:51:28 <An-iSociaL> and you dont have qtouch in your kernel tree
Nov 22 06:51:40 <An-iSociaL> must be specific
Nov 22 06:51:41 <lilstevie> no, I have a different panel
Nov 22 06:52:06 <lilstevie> my devices have atmel mxt touch panels
Nov 22 06:52:18 <lilstevie> and there isn't a "universal arm tree" so to speak
Nov 22 06:53:46 <An-iSociaL> hm
Nov 22 06:53:53 <An-iSociaL> https://github.com/LIV2/LIV2-Xoom-GNU/blob/tiamat_stock_gpu/drivers/input/touchscreen/qtouch_obp_ts.c
Nov 22 06:54:07 <An-iSociaL> liv2's kernel still has those HAT0X/Y
Nov 22 06:54:21 <An-iSociaL> wonder if he did any fixes to his
Nov 22 06:55:05 <lilstevie> no I left them behind
Nov 22 06:55:18 <lilstevie> main thing is getting rid of btn2
Nov 22 06:55:29 <lilstevie> but I see no point in keeping hat0x/y
Nov 22 06:57:07 <An-iSociaL> yea neither do it, its made no difference
Nov 22 06:57:32 <An-iSociaL> could this be as simple as a config in ubunbtu itself/
Nov 22 06:57:33 <An-iSociaL> ?
Nov 22 06:57:59 <lilstevie> nah it really shouldn't make a difference at this point
Nov 22 06:58:07 <An-iSociaL> mmk
Nov 22 06:58:37 <lilstevie> everything left are valid touch coords
Nov 22 06:59:00 <lilstevie> and evdev ignores those that it doesn't use
Nov 22 06:59:07 <lilstevie> actually can you evtest again
Nov 22 06:59:15 <An-iSociaL> no adb
Nov 22 06:59:21 <lilstevie> bleh
Nov 22 06:59:33 <An-iSociaL> yea, quite the pickle
Nov 22 07:00:19 <An-iSociaL> can i put adbd into the initrd?
Nov 22 07:00:33 <lilstevie> possibly, not tested it myself
Nov 22 07:00:41 <lilstevie> and really, that shouldn't affect anything
Nov 22 07:01:07 <An-iSociaL> must be a usb thing then
Nov 22 07:05:46 <lilstevie> probably
Nov 22 07:13:24 <An-iSociaL> alright, well im stumped and rather tired
Nov 22 07:13:31 <An-iSociaL> so im going to take a break for tonight
Nov 22 07:18:48 <lilstevie> k
Nov 22 08:17:25 <punxos> Hi
Nov 22 09:46:22 <S0NiC> hi
Nov 22 09:50:28 <S0NiC> can anyone give me a good howto to crosscompile for arm7 technology? thanks in advance
Nov 22 09:57:43 <brendand> guys, whenever i finish the oem-config for the 11.10 desktop image on the pandaboard i briefly see lightdm and then the screen flickers and switches off
Nov 22 09:57:48 <brendand> anyone seen this
Nov 22 09:57:49 <brendand> ?
Nov 22 09:58:01 <brendand> i've tried a few times
Nov 22 09:58:18 <ogra_> not here
Nov 22 09:58:28 <ogra_> what kind of panda is that ? 4430 or 4460 ?
Nov 22 09:58:53 <ogra_> i know the 4460 still hat temperature issues with the 11.10 kernel
Nov 22 09:59:36 <brendand> well, it's Rev A1 if that says anything
Nov 22 10:01:12 <ruudt> thats 4430 says google
Nov 22 10:01:31 <ogra_> well, that should definitely work
Nov 22 10:05:19 <brendand> maybe it's my damn monitor
Nov 22 10:05:49 <ruudt> what would be the easiest way to develop programs for a minimal ubuntu installation? Given that I need internet and show images
Nov 22 10:05:52 <ogra_> got the chance to try another ?
Nov 22 10:06:07 <brendand> ogra - i can try my TV :)
Nov 22 10:06:12 <ogra_> yeah, do that
Nov 22 10:06:20 <ruudt> brendand: what happens if you wait a few minutes? Just to rule out temperature issues?
Nov 22 10:06:23 <ogra_> might be an issue in the EDID parsing
Nov 22 10:06:40 <ogra_> ruudt, the 4430 shouldnt have any temp issues
Nov 22 10:06:54 <ruudt> ow ok, sorry, I was guessing
Nov 22 10:06:54 <ogra_> for the 4460 i know it for sure that we have them though
Nov 22 10:07:36 <ruudt> has any of you any programming experience for linux?
Nov 22 10:07:52 <ogra_> ruudt, we have the ubuntu-core images that you can use as a base for rolling specific minimal rootfses
Nov 22 10:07:53 <ruudt> I mean, I just installed quickly, but it is not really what I need
Nov 22 10:08:22 <ruudt> orgra_ I have an installation. But need to build a custom app
Nov 22 10:08:26 <ogra_> ah
Nov 22 10:08:41 <ogra_> well, quickly would be a good start if you actually want gtk and python apps
Nov 22 10:08:47 <ruudt> getting a working installation took several days of trying though :(
Nov 22 10:08:51 <ogra_> not sure where it stands with things like C
Nov 22 10:08:58 <ogra_> ouch
Nov 22 10:09:03 <ogra_> what board is that ?
Nov 22 10:09:09 <ogra_> something we support ?
Nov 22 10:09:18 <ruudt> beagleboard xm rev c
Nov 22 10:09:53 <ogra_> ah, yeah, revC is a constant headdache
Nov 22 10:10:04 <ruudt> damn, is it that bad?
Nov 22 10:10:09 <ogra_> will hopefully be better in 12.04
Nov 22 10:10:25 <ruudt> won't help me now
Nov 22 10:10:30 <ogra_> well, we didnt have one in the team to test on it until very recently before release
Nov 22 10:10:51 <ogra_> and it came out after kernel freeze and feature freeze
Nov 22 10:10:51 <ruudt> Can I, with quickly then also develop programs that don't rely on X to display the images?
Nov 22 10:11:08 <ogra_> you might, i have never used quickly to be honest
Nov 22 10:11:16 <ruudt> What do you use?
Nov 22 10:11:36 <ogra_> shell, C, whatever else suits the usecase
Nov 22 10:11:48 <brendand> ogra - yeah, TV works perfectly
Nov 22 10:11:58 <brendand> bl**dy pos samsung monitor :/
Nov 22 10:12:08 <ogra_> (for quick GUI apps i usually take python/gtk and later re-implem,ent in C/gtk)
Nov 22 10:12:23 <ogra_> brendand, yeah, blame the monitor ...
Nov 22 10:12:26 <brendand> although - TV doesn't have DVI so it was a HDMI -> HDMI connection
Nov 22 10:12:47 <brendand> whereas monitor doesn't have HDMI so it's HDMI -> DVI
Nov 22 10:13:00 <brendand> so it might be that and not EDID
Nov 22 10:13:02 <ogra_> that shouldnt make it break though
Nov 22 10:13:27 <brendand> well, i don't know. also the v-alignment is off on the monitor
Nov 22 10:13:41 <brendand> there is about 4 inches on the LHS with just static in it
Nov 22 10:13:46 <ogra_> did you try the auto adjustment of the monitor ?
Nov 22 10:13:46 <brendand> but not on the TV
Nov 22 10:13:53 <brendand> ogra - yeah
Nov 22 10:14:11 <ogra_> also look if there is an overscan setting in the menu
Nov 22 10:14:16 <ogra_> and switch that off
Nov 22 10:14:31 <ogra_> though that shouldnt lead to no pic at all
Nov 22 10:14:48 <ogra_> only to a cut off pic
Nov 22 10:16:46 <brendand> no overscan setting i can see
Nov 22 10:17:02 <brendand> i'll just have to commandeer the telly for now
Nov 22 10:17:18 <ogra_> well, you could wait for robclark to get up, he might know the monitor models that still have EDID issues
Nov 22 10:17:38 <ogra_> (i thought they were solved, but apparently they arent)
Nov 22 10:17:45 <brendand> ogra_ - i'm pretty sure i had EDID issues with this one before
Nov 22 10:17:47 <ogra_> how about using hdmi on the monitor
Nov 22 10:17:52 <brendand> doesn't have it
Nov 22 10:19:46 <infinity> brendand: When you were connecting to the DVI monitor, did you use the other HDMI port? (The one marked hdmi-dvi)
Nov 22 10:20:02 <infinity> Or DVI-D, on some boards.  Whatever.  The one on the right. :P
Nov 22 10:22:07 <brendand> infinity - ah. i'm using the one that worked for me before. the one on the left
Nov 22 10:22:59 <infinity> brendand: The one on the left is HDMI, the one on the right is HDMI-DVI.  In theory.  I don't use the one on the right, cause everything here is straight HDMI.
Nov 22 10:23:49 <brendand> infinity - well. i no longer have a problem
Nov 22 10:24:03 <brendand> that works perfectly
Nov 22 10:24:07 <ogra_> hah
Nov 22 10:24:21 <ruudt> so to sum up, you must use the right one if you connect to a dvi monitor
Nov 22 10:24:22 <brendand> pebkac
Nov 22 10:24:37 <ogra_> the one that is labeled DVI, yes :)
Nov 22 10:24:37 <brendand> ruudt - since oneiric, yes
Nov 22 10:25:08 <infinity> ogra_: Pfft, like anyone reads silscreening (except me, apparently).
Nov 22 10:25:16 <ogra_> heh
Nov 22 10:25:17 <infinity> s/sil/silk/
Nov 22 10:25:24 <brendand> in fact i never even looked at the labels
Nov 22 10:25:30 <brendand> just used the one that worked
Nov 22 10:26:09 <ruudt> When infinity asked which connector I was looking that up, because on beagleboard you'd best connect to dvi as well :P
Nov 22 10:26:57 <brendand> yeah, my beagleboard just has a DVI-D connector
Nov 22 10:27:08 <ruudt> But I'm still learning about everything here. My next hurdle; which development environemnt to use. But despite the advices I have not yet found one
Nov 22 10:27:47 <ogra_> didnt you say you wanted to do web development ?
Nov 22 10:28:27 <ruudt> ogra_: nope, but I do need to access the internet
Nov 22 10:28:44 <ogra_> ah, i thought you wanted to serve images through the net
Nov 22 10:29:39 <ruudt> Yes, but that is not web development? To me that is anything that runs from a server and is accessed by clients
Nov 22 10:30:33 <ruudt> I already did the web development part; I have a server ready that will supply all data my application will need
Nov 22 10:31:16 <ruudt> Did that while waiting for the BB to ship
Nov 22 10:34:17 <ruudt> Hmm, the minimal install that I got running doesn't even have man...
Nov 22 10:35:31 <infinity> apt-get install man-db manpages
Nov 22 10:35:46 <ogra_> and watch your system get slow on upgrades :P
Nov 22 10:35:58 <infinity> And manpages-dev, if you're doing C programming.
Nov 22 10:37:08 <ruudt> well, at least I can read up on the things that ARE installed.
Nov 22 10:38:06 <infinity> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/ also works, if you prefer not to grind dpkg runs to a halt with man-db triggers. :P
Nov 22 10:38:31 <ogra_> ++
Nov 22 10:39:18 <infinity> (But I'm with you, all my machines have man-db installed... Not being able to use man confuses me)
Nov 22 10:43:48 <ruudt> well, I'll just continue installing man-db and then figuring out what to develop the programs with. Just wish it where more clear what to use...
Nov 22 11:00:58 <S0NiC> re
Nov 22 11:10:52 <brendand> i guess it's well known that suspending a pandaboard doesn't really compute?
Nov 22 12:25:38 <desrt> hi all
Nov 22 12:25:55 <desrt> it's early in the morning and i haven't had my coffee yet, so please excuse what may be a very stupid question
Nov 22 12:26:40 <desrt> the kernel package that comes on the i.mx53 install image is called linux-linaro-lt-mx5
Nov 22 12:26:46 <desrt> but that package doesn't appear to be in the archive
Nov 22 12:28:08 <desrt> it's not like i strictly need a kernel since boot is handled slightly specially here anyway, but i'd like to have some modules (installed properly) at least
Nov 22 12:32:13 <ogra_> it is in universe
Nov 22 12:32:48 <desrt> see?  no coffee.
Nov 22 12:32:53 <desrt> ogra_: thanks :)
Nov 22 12:33:01 <ogra_> yw :)
Nov 22 12:33:36 * desrt blames debootstrap for that
Nov 22 12:34:19 <ogra_> it is one of the "community supported" images
Nov 22 12:34:23 <ogra_> like the ac100 one
Nov 22 12:34:27 <desrt> seems to be working quite nicely, fwiw
Nov 22 12:34:47 <desrt> the userspace on the image leaves me a bit confused though
Nov 22 12:34:48 <ogra_> well, the installation is quite slow
Nov 22 12:34:54 <desrt> it appears to have an installer that installs to itself, or something
Nov 22 12:35:00 <desrt> and then leaves the system in a somewhat broken state after
Nov 22 12:35:16 <ogra_> that would be a bug
Nov 22 12:35:24 <desrt> ogra_: it's the microsd that's slow.  i just plugged in an intel sata drive and it's about 5-10x faster now
Nov 22 12:35:37 <ogra_> it is a preinstalled image, on first boot it expands the rootfs partition to the full size of the SD
Nov 22 12:35:45 <desrt> ah
Nov 22 12:35:52 <ogra_> then it reboots into oem-config to set up user, hostname, kbd etc etcd
Nov 22 12:36:27 <desrt> ya.  i did all that and now i boot to an empty desktop
Nov 22 12:36:32 <ogra_> (which on the desktop images requires X, so make sure to have a monitor attached)
Nov 22 12:36:49 <desrt> in any case, it's all a bit much
Nov 22 12:36:52 * desrt just wants something he can ssh to
Nov 22 12:36:53 <ogra_> did it properly finish actually ?
Nov 22 12:37:03 <desrt> i read about this bug with the window disappearing...
Nov 22 12:37:10 <desrt> to be honest, i don't know if it did or not
Nov 22 12:37:24 <ogra_> you should get an aptd/dpkg UI that shows you the removal of all unneeded packages
Nov 22 12:37:26 <desrt> i was careful not to select autologin
Nov 22 12:37:43 <desrt> well, i'm just debootstrapping onto this sata drive now
Nov 22 12:37:57 <ogra_> if you didnt have that (and if ubiquity is still installed) you know that oem-config failed
Nov 22 12:38:08 <ogra_> use ubuntu-core ;)
Nov 22 12:38:19 <desrt> i couldn't find an imx image for ubuntu core/server
Nov 22 12:38:21 <ogra_> tar xvfz is faster than debootstrap ;)
Nov 22 12:38:25 <desrt> seemed to only have omap
Nov 22 12:38:28 <desrt> ohhh
Nov 22 12:38:29 <desrt> for that
Nov 22 12:38:34 <ogra_> there are no board specific ubuntu-core images
Nov 22 12:38:34 <desrt> meh.  already done :)
Nov 22 12:38:37 <ogra_> its all userspace
Nov 22 12:38:42 <ogra_> completely unconfigured
Nov 22 12:39:03 <ogra_> (but largely the same you get from debootstrap)
Nov 22 12:40:11 <desrt> any board-specific userspace config i should know about before i try to boot back into this thing?
Nov 22 12:40:37 <ogra_> no idea, ask janimo, he owns the mx5 images
Nov 22 12:40:44 <desrt> janimo: sup? :)
Nov 22 12:40:50 <ogra_> i dont actually know what bootloader config is usually done there
Nov 22 12:41:52 <desrt> the image seems to have a fat partition on it with the kernel, initramfs and some sort of boot description file
Nov 22 12:41:59 <desrt> (text)
Nov 22 12:42:03 <desrt> looks pretty straight-forward
Nov 22 12:42:20 <desrt> probably it needs the microsd to load the kernel image at least, then i can use the sata as the rootfs
Nov 22 12:42:24 <ogra_> likely a u-boot script file, thats not text
Nov 22 12:42:30 <ogra_> (boot.scr)
Nov 22 12:42:38 <ogra_> it has a header
Nov 22 12:42:58 * desrt takes a peek
Nov 22 12:43:06 <ogra_> you shoudl eb able to get away with a vfat for booting
Nov 22 12:43:09 * desrt notes that the SD card is hilariously slow
Nov 22 12:43:27 <ogra_> and then switch to rootfs on sata by root=UUID=.... on cmdline
Nov 22 12:44:12 <desrt> so there is a boot.scr here
Nov 22 12:44:18 <desrt> but boot.txt is the one i was looking at earlier
Nov 22 12:44:23 <ogra_> right, that should have a 64byte hearder
Nov 22 12:44:36 <ogra_> and is generated using mkimage
Nov 22 12:44:41 <ogra_> likely from boot.txt
Nov 22 12:44:49 <desrt> it appears to be plain text...
Nov 22 12:44:56 <ogra_> .scr ?
Nov 22 12:44:58 <desrt> .txt
Nov 22 12:45:01 <ogra_> yeah
Nov 22 12:45:02 <desrt> oh.  i see what you're saying
Nov 22 12:45:05 <desrt> .txt gets compiled into .scr
Nov 22 12:45:05 <ogra_> thats the input file
Nov 22 12:45:08 <ogra_> right
Nov 22 12:45:14 <ogra_> mkimage adds a header
Nov 22 12:45:15 <desrt> and somehow the .scr is 'blessed'?
Nov 22 12:45:19 <ogra_> yep
Nov 22 12:45:25 <ogra_> u-boot looks for it on boot
Nov 22 12:45:25 <desrt> cool
Nov 22 12:45:52 <desrt> lemme guess -- this 4MB /dev/mmcblk0p1 partition is uboot
Nov 22 12:46:08 <ogra_> not sure, thats where janimo comes into play
Nov 22 12:46:17 <ogra_> i dont have such a board and never had one in my hands
Nov 22 12:46:21 <desrt> it's gotta be -- the kernel doesn't seem to fancy mounting it
Nov 22 12:46:26 <ogra_> so i dont know exactly how it boots
Nov 22 12:46:45 <desrt> i think you've helped me put together a pretty clear image for myself
Nov 22 12:46:55 <ogra_> yeah, we tag the boot partitions with a label that udev ignores
Nov 22 12:47:04 <ogra_> so you dont have it mounted on your desktop install ;)
Nov 22 12:47:32 <desrt> it has dos partition type 0xfa ("Non-FS Data")
Nov 22 12:47:37 <ogra_> (the kernel should see it in dmesg though, it should just nott be automounted)
Nov 22 12:47:40 <desrt> 0xda, rather
Nov 22 12:47:52 <ogra_> ah, yeah, that coudl eb raw u-boot
Nov 22 12:47:54 <ogra_> *be
Nov 22 12:49:29 * desrt wonders why this uboot wasn't given ext4 support
Nov 22 12:49:49 <ogra_> ask  upstream :)
Nov 22 12:49:53 <desrt> oh.  srsly?
Nov 22 12:49:55 <ogra_> it has ext2
Nov 22 12:49:59 <desrt> that's a pretty good reason, then :)
Nov 22 12:50:34 <ogra_> ext4 would rock though, you wouldnt need a separate boot partition
Nov 22 12:50:39 <janimo> desrt, the mx53 ubuntu image is very slow indeed. No idea why yet, something to fix for 12.04
Nov 22 12:50:47 <ogra_> but i think it bloats the codee to much or something
Nov 22 12:50:53 <janimo> desrt, the linaro image for same board was much snappier iirc
Nov 22 12:51:02 <janimo> and not only because if does not do an install
Nov 22 12:51:03 <ogra_> lies !
Nov 22 12:51:06 <ogra_> :P
Nov 22 12:51:27 <desrt> janimo: it seems to be mostly the IO that is slow -- and only to the SD card
Nov 22 12:52:00 <janimo> we use the same kernel as linaro so I am puzzled why this happens, but all of us who tested mx53 late in the oneiric cycle
Nov 22 12:52:04 <janimo> saw it was very slow
Nov 22 12:52:56 <janimo> ogra_, shouldn't an ext2 driver see an ext4 partition especially in read only mode as uboot is?
Nov 22 12:53:09 <janimo> just ignoring the extra features
Nov 22 12:53:13 <ogra_> no, i think you need ext3 support to see ext4
Nov 22 12:53:15 <janimo> ok
Nov 22 12:53:20 <ogra_> not sure though
Nov 22 12:53:21 <janimo> maybe it is only vice versa then
Nov 22 12:57:02 <ogra_> you can definitely see ext3 from an ext2 driver
Nov 22 12:57:11 <ogra_> there the only difference should be the journal
Nov 22 12:57:48 <ogra_> ndec, so you are sure about the model ? (you didnt say anything in the mail)
Nov 22 12:58:19 <ndec> ogra_: sorry. i forgot that ... do you have a serial number or any other number on the board?
Nov 22 12:58:34 <ndec> to be honest i haven't even seen such a board myself ;-)
Nov 22 12:58:36 <ogra_> on the board or on the shell ?
Nov 22 12:58:45 <ndec> whatever...
Nov 22 12:58:47 <ndec> anything...
Nov 22 12:58:58 <ogra_> there is a barcode glued underneath the sd slot
Nov 22 12:59:16 <ogra_> T0000001266
Nov 22 12:59:47 <ogra_> seems to be the serial # ... its on the box too
Nov 22 13:00:19 * desrt discovers flash-kernel.conf
Nov 22 13:00:34 <ogra_> ndec, then i also have TEVM4460G-22-20-01
Nov 22 13:00:39 <ndec> sounds a useful discovery...
Nov 22 13:00:48 <ogra_> not really
Nov 22 13:00:49 <ndec> ogra_: that one looks useful!
Nov 22 13:01:04 <ogra_> once we switch to flash-kernel-ng there wont be a config file anymore
Nov 22 13:01:07 <ndec> my first comment was for desrt ;-)
Nov 22 13:01:13 <ogra_> yeah
Nov 22 13:01:13 <ndec> argh...
Nov 22 13:01:39 <ogra_> argh ? because of new flash-kernel ?
Nov 22 13:01:40 <desrt> the failure situation for that file missing is a bit sad
Nov 22 13:01:57 <ogra_> flash-kernel is all in all a bit sad :P
Nov 22 13:02:11 <ndec> yes, because we are doing tricky things with flash-kernel.conf ;-)
Nov 22 13:02:18 <ogra_> it makes you cry like onions if you look to long at the code
Nov 22 13:02:59 <ogra_> in fact i would recommend rubbing onions in your eyes instead of looking at the code :) ... if you have the choice
Nov 22 13:03:09 <ogra_> hurts less
Nov 22 13:03:10 <ogra_> :)
Nov 22 13:03:15 <desrt> looking at the code led me to discover UBOOT_PART
Nov 22 13:03:21 <desrt> since it does something like this:
Nov 22 13:03:27 <ogra_> yeah, thats an ugly wart
Nov 22 13:03:27 <desrt> mount ${UBOOT_PART} ${tmpfile}
Nov 22 13:03:40 <desrt> and doesn't consider that ${UBOOT_PART} may be unset :p
Nov 22 13:03:47 <ogra_> the new flash-kernel has a proper DB wiht an entry per board arch
Nov 22 13:03:53 <desrt> neat
Nov 22 13:04:01 <ogra_> that will be way cleaner
Nov 22 13:04:09 <ogra_> still hackish but lots better
Nov 22 13:04:30 <ndec> ogra_: i am amazed, but we do have an internal DB where I could find your reference that you gave me ... TEVM4460G-22-20-01  -> OMAP ES1.1 GP,    1.5GHz, PWR ES2.0, AUD ES1.1 
Nov 22 13:04:47 <ogra_> ndec, to be honest the device doesnt look much different from the one i already have ...
Nov 22 13:04:53 <ogra_> chrome metal frame etc
Nov 22 13:05:29 <ogra_> NIC built in the wrong way round again :) (which i only discovered after i had the cable attached indeed)
Nov 22 13:05:35 <ogra_> etc etc
Nov 22 13:06:01 <desrt> gonna try a reboot now
Nov 22 13:06:08 <ogra_> good luck :)
Nov 22 13:07:56 <desrt> WIN
Nov 22 13:08:00 <desrt> works on first try
Nov 22 13:08:08 <desrt> failed to set root password or add self to sudoers file
Nov 22 13:08:26 * desrt hands head in shame
Nov 22 13:09:08 <lilstevie> ogra_: haha I had a look at flash kernel, proceeded to rip my eyes out, then think about doing my own platform specific hack till flash-kernel-ng
Nov 22 13:09:27 <desrt> janimo: know offhand what serial parameters you configured uboot for?
Nov 22 13:32:17 <S0NiCaw> re
Nov 22 14:06:42 <ogra_> ndec, see pm :)
Nov 22 14:07:30 <ogra_> An-iSociaL, if you need help with ac100 md5sum mangling, i'm around now
Nov 22 14:11:37 <S0NiCaw> hmm can anybody help me with my ubuntu-arm and crosscompiling? ;)
Nov 22 14:11:55 <ogra_> better try #linaro
Nov 22 14:12:11 <S0NiCaw> ok thx
Nov 22 14:22:48 <brendand> do all armv7l platforms follow the same layout for /proc/cpuinfo?
Nov 22 14:23:52 <ogra_> the kernel does
Nov 22 14:25:50 <ppisati> GrueMaster: http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/linux-image-2.6.35-903-omap4_2.6.35-903.27~mlockfix_armel.deb
Nov 22 14:25:56 <ppisati> GrueMaster: this should fix the
Nov 22 14:26:07 <ppisati> GrueMaster: "Make sure the stack guard page does not split the stack on mlock ... FAIL"
Nov 22 14:26:21 <ppisati> GrueMaster: you saw in test-kernel.py
Nov 22 14:26:28 <ppisati> GrueMaster: can you verify it?
Nov 22 14:58:44 <ppisati> GrueMaster: and while here
Nov 22 14:58:49 <ppisati> GrueMaster: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/85419190/test-kernel-security.log
Nov 22 14:59:07 <ppisati> GrueMaster: on one line it says: "PR_SET_SECCOMP works ... FAIL" but below that
Nov 22 14:59:22 <ppisati> GrueMaster: "CONFIG_SECCOMP enabled ...  (skipped: not available on ARM) ok"
Nov 22 16:01:47 <An-iSociaL> afternoon all
Nov 22 16:02:38 <An-iSociaL> ogra_, if you mean the tarball installer, thanks but i figured it out
Nov 22 16:02:59 <ogra_> well, you hacked it to be broken afterwards i guess
Nov 22 16:03:01 <ogra_> :)
Nov 22 16:03:32 <An-iSociaL> hm?
Nov 22 16:03:33 <ogra_> the proper way is to roll a cpio.gz archive with a file carrying the tarball md5 of your modified tarball
Nov 22 16:03:42 <ogra_> and then cat'ing that to the end of the initrd
Nov 22 16:03:49 <An-iSociaL> ahhh
Nov 22 16:04:04 <ogra_> if you hack the script you might get unexpected results
Nov 22 16:04:41 <ogra_> and unlike GrueMaster claims we dont do "werid things" with the md5 at build time :)
Nov 22 16:04:58 <An-iSociaL> i actually performed the role of the installer script myself, did the formatting, extracting, getting uuid, purging intaller
Nov 22 16:05:03 <ogra_> we just put the file in place before rolling the initrd
Nov 22 16:05:14 <An-iSociaL> and the fstab
Nov 22 16:05:19 <ogra_> well, that will miss a bunch of configuration
Nov 22 16:05:31 <ogra_> unless you also made oem-config work
Nov 22 16:05:49 <ogra_> (which does the actual configuration in a proper way)
Nov 22 16:05:55 <An-iSociaL> im pretty sure i did, oem-config did run after touching it
Nov 22 16:06:03 <ogra_> ah, cool
Nov 22 16:06:07 <ogra_> then you shoudl be fine
Nov 22 16:06:27 <ogra_> the code we use to add the md5 is in the livecd-rootfs source btw
Nov 22 16:06:32 <ogra_> for future reference
Nov 22 16:06:42 <An-iSociaL> will have to go back to the installer if i intend to distribute
Nov 22 16:06:59 <An-iSociaL> nice
Nov 22 16:09:19 <An-iSociaL> noted it
Nov 22 16:25:56 <lilstevie> heh
Nov 22 16:26:06 <lilstevie> the way I do it is with the omap image
Nov 22 16:26:29 <An-iSociaL> sup lilstevie
Nov 22 16:26:37 <lilstevie> not much just working on my app
Nov 22 16:26:48 <An-iSociaL> oh cool. whatcha building?
Nov 22 16:27:19 <lilstevie> an app for the tf101 ubuntu/android system
Nov 22 16:27:26 <lilstevie> android app for managing it
Nov 22 16:27:32 <An-iSociaL> nice
Nov 22 16:29:10 <An-iSociaL> im just watchin tv trying to get in the mood to do something
Nov 22 16:36:10 <hallyn> If I just want to run an arm precise image in qemu-arm to verify a bugfix, what's the quickest way to create an image?  Do I download one of the preinstalled images from cdimages.u.c?  Is there a disk image i can wget?
Nov 22 16:37:34 <An-iSociaL> uhm
Nov 22 16:37:43 <An-iSociaL> the only image i currently know of is for the ac100
Nov 22 16:37:49 <An-iSociaL> likely wouldnt do what you want
Nov 22 16:38:37 <An-iSociaL> fastest way otherwise would be debootstrap
Nov 22 16:39:44 <hallyn> and then d/l a kernel from somewhere?
Nov 22 16:40:52 <ogra_> hallyn, use ubuntu-core and look in the linaro docs about vexpress with qemu
Nov 22 16:41:45 <ogra_> or just use an arm chroot, if you dont need a full VM
Nov 22 16:42:45 <hallyn> ok, thx.  (i don't think a chroot'll work as it's ecryptfs-related, but will try)
Nov 22 16:43:24 <ogra_> ah, yeah
Nov 22 16:43:33 <ogra_> wiki.ubuntu.com/Core
Nov 22 16:43:42 <An-iSociaL> could be difficult working with lower level stuff like filesystems in a chroot
Nov 22 16:43:48 <ogra_> note that there isnt a user/pw or any configuration
Nov 22 16:44:01 <ogra_> you will need to do that yourself
Nov 22 16:44:17 <An-iSociaL> qq ogra_, what cross compiler do you use?
Nov 22 16:44:22 <hallyn> ok, thanks guys
Nov 22 16:44:42 <ogra_> An-iSociaL, i compile native
Nov 22 16:44:52 <An-iSociaL> ahh
Nov 22 16:45:41 <An-iSociaL> obviously that would be better but how much better?
Nov 22 16:46:00 <ogra_> depends what you compile really :)
Nov 22 16:46:13 <An-iSociaL> specifically for kernel builds
Nov 22 16:46:19 <ogra_> i usually build packages ... for that native is always better
Nov 22 16:46:37 <ogra_> though there are already a bunch you can actually cross build nowadays
Nov 22 16:46:49 <ogra_> for kernel test builds i would actually recommend cross
Nov 22 16:47:00 <ogra_> and use the gcc-cross in the archive
Nov 22 16:47:46 <An-iSociaL> aha
Nov 22 16:47:53 <An-iSociaL> sweet
Nov 22 16:48:11 <An-iSociaL> i think using the android cross compiler's been jacking my stuff up
Nov 22 16:48:16 <An-iSociaL> kernel modules for sure
Nov 22 16:48:37 <An-iSociaL> makes me wonder if its jacked up kernel modules wth has it done to the kernel itself
Nov 22 16:50:01 <ogra_> there should be a package gcc-armel-cross or some such
Nov 22 16:50:15 <ogra_> (ask hrw, he maintains it, i can never remember the actual name)
Nov 22 16:50:28 <An-iSociaL> i saw it when i was extracting
Nov 22 16:53:37 <hrw> gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi
Nov 22 16:55:17 <ogra_> bah, not even remotely a -cross in the name :P
Nov 22 16:55:24 <An-iSociaL> hehe
Nov 22 16:57:34 <An-iSociaL> cool cool thanks
Nov 22 16:57:40 <An-iSociaL> grabbin it now
Nov 22 16:57:55 <An-iSociaL> perhaps this will solve a couple little bugs
Nov 22 16:58:20 <An-iSociaL> getting closer to being in the mood to do something... yay...
Nov 22 17:02:46 <S0NiCaw> cu
Nov 22 18:35:20 <MrCurious> anyone have any experience getting python 2.7 to compile on a arm platform? (gumstix)
Nov 22 21:37:47 <RoAkSoAx> hey guys
Nov 22 21:38:00 <RoAkSoAx> any reason why unity run very slow on a pandaboard
Nov 22 21:38:06 <RoAkSoAx> might it be because im not using a swap?
Nov 23 00:02:30 <MrCurious> might be because you ARE using a swap
Nov 23 00:02:47 <MrCurious> but most likely due to not installing ti omap4 add ons that bring graphics optimizations
Nov 23 00:42:19 <An-iSociaL> hmm
Nov 23 00:42:34 <An-iSociaL> the motorola atrix uses the same qtouch driver as the xoom
Nov 23 00:42:48 <An-iSociaL> and its near twice as many lines
Nov 23 00:43:33 <An-iSociaL> around 3500 for atrix and right under 2000 for xoom
Nov 23 00:43:53 <An-iSociaL> gonna have to try and diff but i dont think there's going to be any way
Nov 23 00:47:07 <An-iSociaL> no there's no way to use it directly
Nov 23 00:47:13 <An-iSociaL> back to work
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