**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 18 02:59:57 2012 Jan 18 03:14:51 GrueMaster: Based on your error, I'm guessing it's multiarch search paths that were making precise dislike you. Jan 18 03:15:15 GrueMaster: No multiarch in natty, hence all good. Jan 18 03:16:37 infinity: Yea, looks that way. Jan 18 03:17:58 NotJimCarrey: How do you reconfigure the build environment? Looks like it is defaulting to arm soft-float even though this is an arm hard-float environment. Jan 18 03:22:32 i'm not a C++ guru (hence the problems), the only thing i realy figured out was using CXXFLAGS=-march=armv5t Jan 18 03:31:40 so. it compiled, but make test fails through some unsupported syscalls Jan 18 03:33:32 Think I made some headway. Definitely using the wrong abi setting. Jan 18 03:39:47 so, the problem is that it does not compile or it does not execute? Jan 18 03:40:01 I just can't figure out how this build environment is setting -mfloat-abi=softfp on the g++ lines. When I rerun the g++ lines manually with -mfloat-abi=hard it works. Jan 18 03:46:08 GrueMaster, maybe USE_EABI_HARDFLOAT=1 helps Jan 18 03:46:32 Maybe, but where is that configured? Jan 18 03:50:21 Changing default from softfp to hard in deps/v8/SConstruct seems to get further in the build, but it should detect the proper eabi at build time. Seems like a problem with the detection, but I wouldn't know where to look. Jan 18 04:02:52 GrueMaster, it is checked in deps/v8/src/platform-linux.cc Jan 18 04:04:05 Then why is g++ being called with softfp? Jan 18 04:04:55 because there function returned 0 for hardloat? Jan 18 04:05:33 * mythos tells you only the obvious Jan 18 04:05:48 Like I said, something broken in the detection routine. It is still building btw. Jan 18 04:06:01 * infinity clones this out of curiosity. Jan 18 04:06:08 i built it, but qemu is not able to execute it Jan 18 04:07:35 GrueMaster: are you building a convenience copy of v8? Jan 18 04:08:16 It is building everything in the git tree. Jan 18 04:08:48 debian policy frowns on convenience copies Jan 18 04:09:56 For good reason. Jan 18 04:09:59 I'm not building a package. I'm building a source tree to help somone else figure out why it won't build. Jan 18 04:10:27 --shared-v8 would still be saner. Jan 18 04:10:52 The fact that the embedded v8 appears to be braindead becomes a non-issue then. Jan 18 04:12:48 This isn't that js server thing, is it? Jan 18 04:13:07 Whatchamacallit... Jan 18 04:14:25 make test Jan 18 04:14:30 oops Jan 18 04:16:23 Typing over a plate of food. Not easy. Jan 18 04:18:38 bon appétit Jan 18 04:18:44 NotJimCarrey: So, looks like the issue is with the embedded v8 library build. changing deps/v8/SConstruct to default to hard instead of softfp will make the tree build on precise-armhf, but as others here have pointed out, better to install a v8 shared library package. Jan 18 04:19:14 After my change, it built fine. make test returns 1 error. Jan 18 04:22:40 um, can you send me the binary so i can see if it works? i'll try to figure out what you just said, but my brain's too fried from fighting debian tonight Jan 18 04:22:45 lol Jan 18 04:23:22 i'm also trying to install a full debian distro on a photon 4g from scratch Jan 18 04:24:49 NotJimCarrey: Just fix the deps/v8/Sconstruct file. Here's the diff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/808180/ Jan 18 04:27:41 thanks, building now Jan 18 04:30:51 infinity: Using --shared-v8 fails because we are on 3.4.14.21 and the included version is 3.6.4. Jan 18 04:32:27 Hasn't been updated since 2011-07-20 ish (according to the v8 changelog in the source tree). Jan 18 04:36:53 GrueMaster: I would imagine the other --shared-v8* options might help. Unless it really can't build against older versions of the headers. Jan 18 04:37:27 features are missing according to the build failure. Jan 18 04:38:03 just got "sorry, unemplimented: -mfloat-abi=hard and VFP" Jan 18 04:38:38 NotJimCarrey: What image are you building on? What platform? Jan 18 04:39:17 openpandora 2.6.27.57-omap1 Jan 18 04:39:46 * infinity notes that nodejs is in the archive too. Jan 18 04:39:51 Slightly older version, but... Jan 18 04:40:09 Angstrom 2010.4-test-20100627 Jan 18 04:40:44 NotJimCarrey: Erm, so you are not building on an Ubuntu Arm platform? Jan 18 04:40:57 debian actually Jan 18 04:41:07 but there isn't a debian-arm to speak of Jan 18 04:41:21 s/#debian-arm Jan 18 04:42:58 #debian-arm@irc.debian.org? Jan 18 04:43:46 dur Jan 18 04:44:51 it was not intended to scare him away Jan 18 04:45:04 dammit, new windows first Jan 18 04:45:50 oh well, i'll work on it tomorrow Jan 18 04:45:57 thanks for the help :) Jan 18 12:20:25 what's the status with gnat-4.6 and ubuntu-armhf ? Jan 18 12:30:33 suihkulokki, iirc infinity wanted to look into it Jan 18 13:44:45 robclark, putting 3.3 into the PPA was exactly the plan Jan 18 13:44:59 ogra_, ahh, ok Jan 18 13:45:12 I guess I was confused Jan 18 13:45:41 nothing in there is supported by ubuntu anyway ... its just about the supported kernel Jan 18 18:11:46 hi Jan 18 18:12:01 can anyone help me on ubuntu on beagleboard Jan 18 18:13:10 rickey, there is also #beagleboard Jan 18 18:13:26 @mythos i know Jan 18 18:13:36 but no one is replying Jan 18 18:13:43 but what is your problem? Jan 18 18:13:44 my BB is running too slow Jan 18 18:13:58 Kswapd0 is taking to much cpu Jan 18 18:15:01 what kind of beagle is that ? pre-XM times ? Jan 18 18:15:11 its BB rev c3 Jan 18 18:16:15 ah, that only has 256M Jan 18 18:17:05 well, dont use a desktop install on it, its simply not capable to run a full ubuntu desktop ... do a headless install and install some small sized desktop or just use a simple window manager like openbox Jan 18 18:17:34 hmm.. Jan 18 18:17:36 if you *do* use a desktop on it, it will indeed need to swap extensively to keep all bits of the desktop in ram Jan 18 18:17:51 i wanted a good looking desktop Jan 18 18:17:54 so on 256M thats kind of expected Jan 18 18:18:03 try lubuntu-desktop Jan 18 18:18:13 okay.. is that something? Jan 18 18:18:15 i think that should be happy with something like 128M Jan 18 18:18:25 and looks reasonable good Jan 18 18:19:02 but seriously i wouldnt use a beagle for more than development, its not really what you want to use for desktop use Jan 18 18:19:29 hmm.. well not really a desktop Jan 18 18:19:50 but just.. i want to make it as a centralized device for my 3G modem Jan 18 18:20:07 why do you need a desktop for this ? Jan 18 18:20:23 sounds like you would be fine with a single app running fullscreen or so Jan 18 18:20:29 or even a web interface Jan 18 18:20:50 hmm... Jan 18 18:21:05 and for that the beagle is perfect ... Jan 18 18:21:16 i also wanted my BB can be used as a web browsing device Jan 18 18:22:12 well, have a look at lubuntu-desktop it should definitely serve you better than a full blown ubuntu desktop on that device Jan 18 18:22:29 lemme check :) Jan 18 18:22:59 * ogra_ wouldnt really recommend to actually *use* the desktop on less than 1G Jan 18 18:23:29 for demo 512M are surely fine but even there you run into memory probs if someone opens 20 tabs in a browser Jan 18 18:24:50 @ogra_ lubuntu looks good Jan 18 18:24:54 it uses lxde? Jan 18 18:25:03 yep :) Jan 18 18:25:37 it will have all the features as that of ubuntu? Jan 18 18:25:45 nearly Jan 18 18:25:52 i mean like if i want to install something.. coz i guess its same debian Jan 18 18:26:11 yeah, the underlying system is the same for ubuntu and lubuntu Jan 18 18:26:18 its just a different desktop on top Jan 18 18:27:06 they are built from the same archive etc just a different face Jan 18 18:27:18 ok Jan 18 18:27:24 it wont be that fancy Jan 18 18:27:29 but it will be good enough Jan 18 18:27:50 well, you use a pretty limited device Jan 18 18:28:11 fvor a full ubuntu desktop on an arm device i would recommend a pandaboard Jan 18 18:28:19 hmm Jan 18 18:28:37 i bought BB too early Jan 18 18:28:47 :) Jan 18 18:29:31 i should start with installing ubuntu again Jan 18 18:29:31 :) Jan 18 18:30:00 is there any website? where i can see screenshots? Jan 18 18:30:14 i would recommend to start with a headless/server image actually and there just install the xorg and lubuntu-desktop packages on top Jan 18 18:30:35 no, idea, there surely are screenshots onm the web Jan 18 18:31:25 yeah i have ubuntu minimal (robert nelson) Jan 18 18:31:46 oh, not an official image ? Jan 18 18:32:15 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP Jan 18 18:32:26 that image was not working.. Jan 18 18:32:27 has the official ubuntu images Jan 18 18:32:29 i did try it Jan 18 18:33:02 ah, well, they stay with roberts, but they are different Jan 18 18:33:04 even i was confused Jan 18 18:33:21 netbook will be ok? Jan 18 18:33:25 i have netbook Jan 18 18:34:23 well, i would take something without desktop Jan 18 18:34:35 :) Jan 18 18:34:36 ok Jan 18 18:34:38 headless or server Jan 18 18:34:51 and then install the xorg and lubuntu-desktop packages Jan 18 18:34:56 that should work Jan 18 18:35:08 note you need a serial connection for hedless or server Jan 18 18:35:45 yes i know Jan 18 18:36:32 so i should not use robert nelson image? the one i got from elinux page? Jan 18 18:36:58 well, feel free to use it, it is just different from the ubuntu ones ... Jan 18 18:37:06 we cant really support it here Jan 18 18:37:14 since nobody of us uses it Jan 18 18:37:30 ok.. Jan 18 18:37:49 ubuntu makes changes in kernel too? Jan 18 18:38:10 nope, we use plain mainline Jan 18 18:38:14 ok Jan 18 18:38:18 for omap3 (beagle) Jan 18 18:38:21 so i can use my own kernel? Jan 18 18:38:26 sure Jan 18 18:38:44 :) Jan 18 18:38:45 gr8 Jan 18 18:39:54 where can i get headless install for oneiric? Jan 18 18:40:24 see the wikipage i pasted above Jan 18 18:40:32 they are all linked there Jan 18 18:42:31 11.04 headless is there Jan 18 18:42:52 in 11.10 it was renamed to server Jan 18 18:44:00 anyway, i'm out for the day, good luck ! Jan 18 18:44:16 thank you so much :) Jan 18 18:44:24 one last quest Jan 18 18:44:28 may i? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 19 02:59:57 2012