**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 23 02:59:57 2012 Jan 23 11:03:00 ppisati, infinity: another regression in linux-ti-omap4 I think. panda fails to boot. Jan 23 11:08:39 rbasak: do you have pvr-omap4 installed? Jan 23 11:09:11 ppisati: don't think so. I'm doing a preseeded install. The installer runs but then the kernel hangs after reboot Jan 23 11:09:21 ppisati: no output after "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel." Jan 23 11:10:23 ppisati: looking at my proxy cache logs, the installer retrieved linux-image-omap4_3.2.0.1404.4_armhf.deb but nothing matching pvr-omap4. Jan 23 11:10:33 i know there's a problem with that dkms module Jan 23 11:10:42 but without it works here Jan 23 11:11:43 I'm not doing anything special at all Jan 23 11:11:52 netboot, preseed, install onto panda with external usb disk Jan 23 11:18:05 what's the content of your boot.scr? Jan 23 11:18:09 rbasak: ^^ Jan 23 11:18:32 ppisati: once installed? Jan 23 11:19:01 fatload mmc 0:1 0x80000000 uImage Jan 23 11:19:02 fatload mmc 0:1 0x81600000 uInitrd Jan 23 11:19:02 setenv bootargs root=UUID=62d8a5de-83eb-470c-9de6-31eed3621672 ro quiet splash Jan 23 11:19:02 bootm 0x80000000 0x81600000 Jan 23 11:19:02 fi Jan 23 11:20:03 there's no console stuff, no wonder you don't see any output Jan 23 11:20:04 wait Jan 23 11:20:46 get rid of "quiet splash" Jan 23 11:20:55 and add "console=tty0 console=ttyO2,115200n" Jan 23 11:21:15 and if i would be in you, i would add "rootwait" too Jan 23 11:21:39 well, it used to work Jan 23 11:21:39 the installer installed that boot.scr Jan 23 11:21:40 is this something that's broken in the installer? Jan 23 11:21:46 no no Jan 23 11:21:56 it's just that if you don't have the "console=" args Jan 23 11:22:15 the only thing you see is the "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel." Jan 23 11:22:19 until you get a console Jan 23 11:22:30 but since it's a fresh installation, there's no ttyO2.conf Jan 23 11:22:39 and thus you don't even have the console Jan 23 11:22:50 I understand why you're saying that I don't have a console Jan 23 11:23:04 and if X doens't work for some reason, you think tghe kernel hanged somewhere Jan 23 11:23:31 Oh I see Jan 23 11:23:55 So not necessarily a kernel issue until I add the console Jan 23 11:23:58 I'll do that, thanks Jan 23 11:23:59 yep Jan 23 11:24:18 here are all the steps i do after a fresh install: Jan 23 11:24:44 modify boot.scr: delete "quiet splash", and add "console=tty0 console=ttyO2,115200n rootwait" Jan 23 11:25:21 mount the / and add a ttyO2.conf in /etc/init Jan 23 11:25:36 That part was definitely there last week Jan 23 11:25:37 then reboot and see what happens Jan 23 11:26:02 anyway, try to add that stuff and tell me how it goes Jan 23 11:26:25 FWIW: Jan 23 11:26:26 flag@flag-desktop:~$ uname -a Jan 23 11:26:27 Linux flag-desktop 3.2.0-1404-omap4 #6-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 19 14:31:43 UTC 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux Jan 23 11:26:30 this is my panda Jan 23 11:26:59 i've a dentisti appointment, i'll be back in an hour or so Jan 23 11:30:03 ppisati: http://paste.ubuntu.com/814182/ Jan 23 11:30:11 ppisati: OK, I'll work on something else in the meantime Jan 23 11:32:08 ppisati: (this is with http://paste.ubuntu.com/814183/) Jan 23 11:39:10 ing Jan 23 11:39:21 morn :) Jan 23 11:40:33 ogera! Jan 23 11:42:31 hey highvoltage Jan 23 11:42:52 rbasak: could you try with this one "ro rootwait elevator=noop vram=32M mem=456M@0x80000000 mem=512M@0xA0000000 root=UUID=$YOURUUIDHERE fixrtc console=tty0 console=ttyO2,115200n8" Jan 23 11:43:03 ogra_: how are things? Jan 23 11:43:04 rbasak: now i'm leaving for real Jan 23 11:43:33 highvoltage, fine, thanks, and for you ? Jan 23 11:43:47 ogra_: doing good Jan 23 13:12:17 rbasak: did you try with the args i pasted above? Jan 23 14:03:10 rbasak: ping me when you around Jan 23 14:52:29 ppisati: sorry, been afk sorting out a wiring harness for my pandas Jan 23 14:52:39 ppisati: your new args work Jan 23 14:57:16 rbasak: so you got it working, right? Jan 23 14:57:26 ppisati: yes, it booted with those args Jan 23 14:57:43 rbasak: actually the problem is somewhere else Jan 23 14:57:53 rbasak: it's in the CMA Jan 23 14:58:00 CMA? Jan 23 14:58:08 yep Jan 23 14:58:12 your dmesg said: Jan 23 14:58:14 DMA: failed to allocate 256 KiB pool for atomic coherent allocation Jan 23 14:58:31 while i guess now it succeded to allocate that pool Jan 23 14:59:30 ppisati, you've lost me. What's the CMA? From my point of view, a netboot install of Ubuntu Server on ARM is currently broken, but was working in last week's precise. I don't understand which component is broken. Who do I need to speak to? Jan 23 15:02:08 rbasak: don't worry, i was just spoeaking with myself Jan 23 15:02:28 rbasak: did you have the same bootargs last week? Jan 23 15:02:51 I don't know. I have whatever bootargs the installer gives me. Jan 23 15:04:33 does the current ubuntu-core armel installation work? I've installed it into a chroot and installing gnome-core with apt-get trashes the chrooted installation (most commands segfault) Jan 23 15:17:42 rbasak: can you open a bug on lp? Jan 23 15:18:14 ppisati: sure, against which package? linux-ti-omap4? Jan 23 15:19:02 rbasak: yep Jan 23 15:36:12 ppisati: bug 920511 - thanks Jan 23 15:36:13 Launchpad bug 920511 in linux-ti-omap4 "Regression: netinst on panda armhf fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920511 Jan 23 15:40:07 ppisati: fwiw, as far as I can determine, boot args have not changed since last week Jan 23 15:41:12 ok Jan 23 16:02:40 rbasak: I'm trying it here. Had to recover my mirror (crashed over the weekend). Jan 23 16:03:32 I do see some of the netinstall parameters have changed it looks like. My systems are now prompting for hostname (they used to get set automatically by dhcp). Jan 23 16:49:09 rbasak: This may take a little longer than I thought. My mirror server crapped out over the weekend for no documented reason, now it is taking forever to resync with ports.u.c. Jan 23 17:59:13 * ppisati -> EOD Jan 23 18:23:36 rbasak: I can fully reproduce this kernel issue on netinstall and on preinstalled images. The issue is kernel related, and has nothing to do with netinstall (although your lack of serial console is odd - maybe preseed related as mine works). Jan 23 18:24:03 thanks GrueMaster Jan 23 19:52:32 * neels having endless problems with ubuntu 11.04 & 11.10 on beagleboard xM Rev. C -- no usb (and hence no ethernet) Jan 23 19:58:39 neels: Is the usb interface not coming up at all? What does lsusb produce? Jan 23 19:58:55 it shows two usb hubs Jan 23 19:59:07 Nothing else? Jan 23 19:59:14 in the boot I get: Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel. Jan 23 19:59:14 [ 8.114105] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 Jan 23 19:59:37 I'll have a screenshot in a minute Jan 23 19:59:39 How are you powering the board? Jan 23 19:59:57 AC adapter Jan 23 20:00:24 with angstrom, everything works -- the factory supplied angstrom I mean Jan 23 20:00:28 Ok. I have seen this problem when using the mini-usb port to power. Jan 23 20:00:52 I have seen *only* problems when using the mini-usb to power :) Jan 23 20:01:21 I think there was an issue with Natty support on rev c boards (didn't exist). I know there have been some issues with u-boot on oneiric. Jan 23 20:02:36 Unfortunately, I only have a Rev B board, so I see different issues (mainly enet won't link unless I unplug from the network and wait for ~10 seconds). Jan 23 20:02:56 do you have any other devices on the usb port? Jan 23 20:05:05 I was trying my SD card reader, but nothing happens Jan 23 20:05:24 lsusb stays unchanged and everything. Jan 23 20:06:23 is there a list of what is missing for ubuntu arm that you would get in the mainstream ubuntu? Jan 23 20:07:28 specifically.. is all of texlive available? Jan 23 20:07:31 Not really. most everything should just be there. Jan 23 20:10:20 Check ports.ubuntu.com for specific packages. I'm in the middle of an install and can't interrupt it (otherwise I would easily check). Jan 23 20:11:28 ok thanks Jan 23 20:12:40 GrueMaster: it's all very mysterious :) Jan 23 20:13:43 Just checked Oneiric. Lots of texlive packages there. Jan 23 20:13:58 what may be missing, I wouldn't know. Jan 23 20:13:59 curious arm is not mentioned in http://www.tug.org/texlive/build.html Jan 23 20:14:02 at the bottom Jan 23 20:14:45 leshaste: Upstreams often don't mention specific arch support. Jan 23 20:14:57 Because we are not "volunteer builders". Jan 23 20:15:00 leshaste: But that doesn't stop Debian from supporting almost everything on 13 arches. :P Jan 23 20:15:06 We're a distro. Jan 23 20:15:12 infinity: :) Jan 23 20:15:26 GrueMaster: true but I assume the porting of texlive was non-triviak Jan 23 20:15:29 non-trivial Jan 23 20:15:34 I don't see why it would be. Jan 23 20:15:39 It's pure C, IIRC. Jan 23 20:15:43 to give you an indication.. it is said to be "impossible" to port it to android or the ipad Jan 23 20:15:53 infinity: apparently not Jan 23 20:16:20 Neither Android nor iOS provide a full stdc. Jan 23 20:17:10 (And there's also the question of at what "level" people are referring to porting it. As an "app", it would need to be Javaish for Android, and ObjC for iOS) Jan 23 20:17:18 stdc == standard C compiler? Jan 23 20:17:30 leshaste: Standard C library, actually. Jan 23 20:19:18 leshaste: Anyhow, if it runs on a few diffrent unixes, on 64 and 32 bit, on big and little endian, and on Win32 to boot, I'd posit that it's incredibly portable C. Jan 23 20:19:31 leshaste: But, all of those still require a proper libc to be present. Jan 23 20:20:45 you know I am not sure what (la)tex is written in.. it used to be in WEB Jan 23 20:21:48 "nt Jan 23 20:21:48 The original source code for the current TeX software is written in WEB, a mixture of documentation written in TeX and a Pascal subset in order to ensure portability" Jan 23 20:22:12 ". As a result, TeX has been ported to almost all operating systems, usually by using the web2c program to convert the source code into C instead of directly compiling the Pascal code." Jan 23 20:22:16 well there you go :) Jan 23 20:22:24 Yeah. Hence, C in the end. :) Jan 23 20:25:00 infinity: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299962 :) Jan 23 20:26:39 infinity: maybe have glibc just made the job a whole lot easier Jan 23 20:26:58 leshaste: Err, when I talk about "porting to Android", I refer to running things on consumer devices. Jan 23 20:27:10 leshaste: Obviously people can do whatever crazy they want on their own images and builds. Jan 23 20:27:18 infinity: yes fair enough :) Jan 23 20:27:23 leshaste: (Since, yes, it's just Linux at the syscall layer, mostly) Jan 23 20:28:18 infinity: I wonder what the best route would be to port texlive Jan 23 20:28:47 Well, what's the goal? Jan 23 20:29:02 If it's just to say "I run texline on an Android kernel", I can do that right now, in about 20 seconds. Jan 23 20:29:27 If it's to say "I can install texlive bits and use them on a phone with a factory image", that's a whole different ball of wax. Jan 23 20:29:34 infinity: it is to have latex working on an android tablet Jan 23 20:29:48 infinity: it's a silly idea on a phone :) Jan 23 20:30:21 leshaste: If it's rooted, then you just need to build everything it depends on, and install it. Or, just build is all statically and install it. Jan 23 20:30:40 leshaste: If it's not "rooted" (ie: a pure factory image), well. I suspect there's no real solution. Jan 23 20:30:57 infinity: why couldn't you make an app? Jan 23 20:31:05 infinity: there is NDK for example Jan 23 20:31:27 but I am not against rooting in any case :) Jan 23 20:31:29 Do they actually let app developers live outside dalvik now? Jan 23 20:31:51 infinity: sort of http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/index.html Jan 23 20:31:54 If so, then I suppose you could do so. But apps sort of imply also having a UI of some sort. Jan 23 20:32:03 infinity: sure you need an editor too Jan 23 20:32:07 infinity: there actually is already one Jan 23 20:32:10 verbtex Jan 23 20:32:16 just no backend :) Jan 23 20:33:59 No idea if this ndk would let you, say, build something statically against another libc (might break their pseudo-VM model there), but hey, worth having fun with. Jan 23 20:34:11 Also, wildly out of scope for this *Ubuntu* ARM channel. :) Jan 23 20:34:14 I have no idea either.. it must be hard Jan 23 20:34:19 as lots of people say they want it Jan 23 20:34:21 and no one has it :) Jan 23 20:34:34 oh yes.. the other route is to chroot ubuntu arm Jan 23 20:34:38 which is why I am here :) Jan 23 20:35:03 are there any nice docs on getting ubuntu arm to work in chroot on android? Jan 23 20:37:37 infinity: unless you think that is also crazy :) Jan 23 20:38:15 leshaste: A chroot should kinda just work? Jan 23 20:38:25 leshaste: Not sure what docs would be needed. Jan 23 20:38:32 leshaste: Kind of out of our scope, but I'm sure you can use our core image as a base. Jan 23 20:38:44 ok thanks Jan 23 20:38:46 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MErL7FslBjU looks fun :) Jan 23 20:38:54 leshaste: eg, download ubuntu-core, set up /etc/resolv.conf to point at something useful, chroot in. Jan 23 20:39:55 infinity: thanks.. I think I will give this a go as it looks like a simple and almost sane solution Jan 23 20:53:27 salut Jan 23 20:53:53 il y a quelqu'un ? Jan 23 20:58:28 allo ? Jan 23 21:11:46 julien___: Nous parlons Anglais içi. Jan 23 21:15:19 infinity: sorry Jan 23 21:15:57 know you linux4tegra ? Jan 23 21:17:38 do you know * Jan 23 21:17:51 sorry for my bad english Jan 23 21:23:52 nobody can help me Jan 23 21:24:49 ?? Jan 23 21:26:24 julien___: Sorry, I don't know a whole bunch about linux4tegra. And I'm not entirely sure how it relates to an Ubuntu channel? Jan 23 21:27:00 (Well, except that l4t is based on Ubuntu 11.04) Jan 23 21:29:16 FYI, http://releases.linaro.org/images/11.12/oneiric/nano/beagle-nano.img.gz made my day. it just works! :D Jan 23 21:29:24 i 'm jsute searching the image kernel for compiling ubuntu 11.04 on my toshiba folio 100 Jan 23 21:30:47 http://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra Jan 23 21:31:24 it's written here we can download that but i don't find them Jan 23 21:31:40 please help me Jan 23 21:31:55 julien___: Not sure how much help we can be here. I don't think any of us own or hack on Folio 100s. Jan 23 21:32:13 julien___: You could try our AC100 netbook images and see if they somehow magically work on your tablet, but I highly doubt it. Jan 23 21:32:33 that don't work Jan 23 21:32:43 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100 Jan 23 21:33:09 but if you can help me just at finding the kernel in the site of nvidia , Jan 23 21:33:14 Yeah, well, if that doesn't work, I'm not sure what help we can be. Without the hardware, I can't say much as to how to mess with it. Jan 23 21:33:36 julien___: nvidia doesn't distribute kernels for each device (or for any devices, I suspect). Jan 23 21:33:53 julien___: But you can re-use the Android kernel that shipped with the tablet. Jan 23 21:34:08 yes but it's says they do Jan 23 21:34:19 but i can't find Jan 23 21:34:42 http://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra Jan 23 21:34:52 look at system requirdment Jan 23 21:35:57 julien___: And directly below that are the driver packages they speak of. Jan 23 21:36:24 but this is not kernel source ? Jan 23 21:36:28 julien___: That said, there's still no gurantees that any of their reference kernels will boot on your device. Jan 23 21:37:01 but i'm determinated to try Jan 23 21:37:17 Kay. Well, I'm not sure we're the right people to ask about it. :P Jan 23 21:38:05 I had make 3or4 irc chanel all people says me that ;) Jan 23 21:38:34 Probably because none of those people (A) work for nvidia, or (B) are working with the device you own. :/ Jan 23 21:38:45 So, you get to be a pioneer. Jan 23 21:39:05 ^^ Jan 23 21:39:10 i think Jan 23 21:39:36 so, you say the driver package is the kernel source ? Jan 23 21:39:55 I didn't say that, and I haven't downloaded one to look. Jan 23 21:40:02 They claim it contains kernel *images*, not source. Jan 23 21:40:16 But then again, to satisfy the GPL, there's likely a readme in it that tells you were to get the source. Jan 23 21:40:19 One would hope. Jan 23 21:40:21 Maybe. Jan 23 21:40:24 so i can't compil that ? Jan 23 21:40:58 Download it and check it out? I know as much as you do. Jan 23 21:42:52 i have downloaded Jan 23 21:43:08 but i don't have .h or.c file Jan 23 21:52:58 infinity: no ideas ? Jan 23 21:58:04 julien___: Not so much, no. Sorry, rather busy here with my own work. Jan 23 22:03:13 infinity: ok :( Jan 23 22:11:37 infinity: can you say me what are the source liste for ubuntu 11.04 arm please i will try an upgrade Jan 23 22:15:35 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports natty main universe restricted multiverse Jan 23 22:15:56 And then natty-security and natty-updates as well. Jan 23 22:22:32 i should change this before make do-release-upgrade Jan 23 22:22:39 infinity: ? Jan 23 22:26:42 julien___: We really aren't in much of a position to help with this as it is not one of our built distributions. We can offer package support, but beyond that, we don't know how the image is assembled. Jan 23 22:27:25 Having said that, i am now pulling it down to see what they have. Jan 23 22:29:32 escuse me i'm french and i don't understand all you say Jan 23 22:29:43 sorry GrueMaster Jan 23 22:30:20 Ok, having looked at the base system, if you want the source, add "deb-src http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports natty main universe" to the /etc/apt/sources.list. Jan 23 22:31:03 you think it's that work if i do an upgrade ? Jan 23 22:31:29 you think that's work if i do an upgrade ? Jan 23 22:32:31 I see you are looking to run on the Toshiba Folio 100. This is not a platform we support, sadly. Jan 23 22:33:07 why not ? Jan 23 22:33:41 i understand Jan 23 22:34:00 now i am on the 10.10 Jan 23 22:34:26 and a upgrade should be possible Jan 23 22:34:37 no ? GrueMaster **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 24 02:59:57 2012