**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 12 02:59:58 2012
Mar 12 04:34:44 <mail> is there a channel for arm assembly dev ?
Mar 12 06:50:18 <cooloney> NCommander and GrueMaster, hey, guys, i've already uploaded armadaxp kernel to our PPA. which builts fine
Mar 12 06:50:32 <cooloney> please help to test on real hardware
Mar 12 06:50:34 <NCommander> cooloney: saw your email. I'll punt it in the archive tomorrow morning
Mar 12 06:50:55 <cooloney> NCommander: cool, you still around? it's mid night, i guess
Mar 12 06:51:06 <NCommander> cooloney: genius never sleeps!
Mar 12 06:51:08 * NCommander laughs evilly
Mar 12 06:51:15 <cooloney> NCommander: if you got any new patches, please drop to me
Mar 12 06:51:19 <NCommander> cooloney: none
Mar 12 06:51:21 <cooloney> OMG,
Mar 12 06:51:32 <NCommander> ?
Mar 12 06:51:33 * cooloney hugs NCommander genius
Mar 12 06:56:56 <cooloney> NCommander: i'm waiting for my Galaxy Nexus
Mar 12 06:57:07 * NCommander has his and it is awesome
Mar 12 06:57:10 <cooloney> i will get it this weekend
Mar 12 06:57:19 <cooloney> cool, i always follow your choice
Mar 12 06:57:19 <NCommander> Need to rebuild the kernel to put NFS on it so I can use it as a buildd
Mar 12 06:57:39 <cooloney> NCommander: you need buy 10 of GN and that's a good building cluster
Mar 12 07:00:17 <NCommander> ahaha
Mar 12 07:05:49 <RoyK> Neko: thanks
Mar 12 09:36:22 <RoyK> hi all. I installed 12.04 beta1 on this pandaboard, and now it seems the new users I have created are invisible on login. the initial user was at first the only one visible, but now, only the last user created is visible to login. any idea what might cause this?
Mar 12 10:13:12 <ogra_> RoyK, either a bug or improper usage of the tools to create users, what did you use ?
Mar 12 10:25:12 <RoyK> ogra_: probably a bug, then, just curious noone has seen it yet. I used the standard gui tools to create two admin users
Mar 12 10:25:40 <ogra_> yeah, that pretty much sounds like a bug
Mar 12 10:25:57 <RoyK> any idea where the bug might be? I mean, the users are in /etc/passwd etc, but aren't visible to the gui tools either
Mar 12 10:26:19 * ogra_ knows that some people inappropriately use useradd etc 
Mar 12 10:26:42 <RoyK> I sometimes do, but I didn't do that now
Mar 12 10:27:52 <RoyK> so, user uadmin was created during install and then let's call them usera and userb, and now only userb is visible along with guest - not even 'type thy username' is possible - is that disabled somewhere by default?
Mar 12 10:29:39 <ogra_> you should be  able to scroll through the userlist at the login manager by clicking the not highlighted one
Mar 12 10:30:14 <ogra_> iirc it only shows two by default and keeps the last used one selected
Mar 12 10:31:42 <ogra_> (unlike in 11.10 where it showed three from the list)
Mar 12 10:37:40 <RoyK> ogra_: it shows userb and guest, and nothing else. the user manager doesn't show the other users either
Mar 12 10:37:56 <RoyK> but still, UIDs are unique and things look good in the files
Mar 12 10:39:19 <ogra_> surely a bug then
Mar 12 10:40:57 <ogra_> i would file it against gnome-control-center as a start
Mar 12 10:41:10 <ogra_> and probably lightdm too
Mar 12 10:44:55 <ogra_> i can reproduce it here
Mar 12 10:45:34 <ogra_> adding a new user doesnt ask for a pw ... after that the new user isnt visible in the user management tool ... upon reboot i can only select the new user or a guest session
Mar 12 10:45:59 <ogra_> and indeed selecting the new user doesnt get me anywhere since he has no pw
Mar 12 10:47:20 <ayaka> why does abootimg must have a initrd to create img
Mar 12 10:47:56 <ogra_> aks upstream :) but i guess it is because the bootloader simply requires it
Mar 12 10:53:46 <RoyK> ogra_: I set a password for the new users manually (passwd <user>), and the old user I created during installation is also hidden
Mar 12 10:54:09 <RoyK> something is pretty fscked up in the user part...
Mar 12 10:54:11 <ogra_> for me the old user shows up on next start of the admin gui
Mar 12 10:54:14 <ogra_> yes
Mar 12 10:54:22 <ogra_> file it please
Mar 12 10:54:27 <RoyK> will do
Mar 12 10:54:35 <RoyK> but now: Lunch!
Mar 12 11:09:01 <ppisati> brb
Mar 12 11:13:09 <ayaka> ogra_ but i have a custom kernel
Mar 12 11:13:40 <ayaka> is there more  infomation about fastboot except android mod wiki
Mar 12 11:14:49 <lilstevie> ogra_, I have a question regarding the L4T drivers you have packaged up
Mar 12 11:43:45 <RoyK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/952909
Mar 12 11:43:46 <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 952909 in ubuntu "New users invisible/unusable" [Undecided,New]
Mar 12 11:59:37 * ppisati -> out for lunch
Mar 12 12:05:36 <ayaka> ogra_ thank you
Mar 12 12:12:12 <RoyK> ogra_: seems #952909 is being given some priority...
Mar 12 12:12:33 <ogra_> well, i added some prio
Mar 12 12:12:38 <RoyK> ah :)
Mar 12 12:12:47 <ogra_> the desktop team still needs to accept that :)
Mar 12 12:13:06 <RoyK> I guess that should be possible, though
Mar 12 12:13:32 <RoyK> not a very obscure bug
Mar 12 12:14:16 <ogra_> well, tricky to debug for them as they have no arm HW yet and it seems to be arm specific
Mar 12 12:14:24 <ogra_> sdo expect more questions :)
Mar 12 12:18:27 <lilstevie> ogra_, how do you get around all EGL apps trying to use mesa-egl over tegra-egl on the ac100?
Mar 12 12:18:47 <ogra_> lilstevie, i use the packaged nvidia-tegra driver :P
Mar 12 12:19:01 <lilstevie> ogra_, tried that
Mar 12 12:19:02 <ogra_> (it sets the right alternatives in the postinst)
Mar 12 12:19:13 <ogra_> well, works fine here
Mar 12 12:19:22 <RoyK> ogra_: I can possibly expose a pandaboard on the net if that would be of any help
Mar 12 12:19:25 <ogra_> though its moot now that we switched to armhf by default
Mar 12 12:19:40 <lilstevie> things like glmark2-es2 still go for mesa
Mar 12 12:19:47 <lilstevie> ogra_, this is on oneiric
Mar 12 12:19:48 <ogra_> RoyK, hardly, since its a desktop issue
Mar 12 12:19:58 <RoyK> true...
Mar 12 12:20:02 <ogra_> lilstevie, iirc we didnt have the package for oneiric
Mar 12 12:20:19 <lilstevie> the one on the ppa doesn't do it correctly?
Mar 12 12:20:22 <ogra_> RoyK, but ask in the bug, i'm not the desktop team ;) probably they have ways
Mar 12 12:20:48 <RoyK> ogra_: btw, I think I've seen similar in oneiric desktop/amd64
Mar 12 12:20:50 <ogra_> lilstevie, the one in the PPA is ages old, and likely broken in several reagrds (and was for natty)
Mar 12 12:20:59 <RoyK> ogra_: but I'll have to doublecheck that
Mar 12 12:21:05 <ogra_> RoyK, if you can confirm that, note it on the bug ;)
Mar 12 12:21:10 <lilstevie> ah ok
Mar 12 12:21:15 <RoyK> ogra_: erm - not oneiric, precise
Mar 12 12:21:21 <RoyK> but yes, I will
Mar 12 12:21:31 <ogra_> lilstevie, the latest precise one should work fine if you never installed one of the broken ones
Mar 12 12:21:36 * RoyK runs to check
Mar 12 12:21:56 <lilstevie> ogra_, I will reflash my prime later and try
Mar 12 12:21:57 <ogra_> lilstevie, the older ones did set the alternatives wrongly
Mar 12 12:22:17 <ogra_> i also never tried anything else than es2gears and es2_info
Mar 12 12:22:31 <lilstevie> ok, well that would explain the issues I am having (alternatives being wrong)
Mar 12 12:22:49 <lilstevie> yeah, es2gears and es2_info are still relying on the mesa ones
Mar 12 12:24:24 <xranby> lilstevie: some projects like jogl and lwjgl   first probes all available libEGL variants installed on the system and  decides to pick the hardware accelerated one if both mesa and a nvidia driver are present
Mar 12 12:25:23 <lilstevie> xranby, ok cool, just trying to get a true benchmark of the GPU on the tegra3
Mar 12 12:25:49 <ogra_> are the beta drivers supposed to support tegra3 already ?
Mar 12 12:25:58 <lilstevie> yes
Mar 12 12:26:00 <lilstevie> they do
Mar 12 12:26:05 <xranby> lilstevie: the quickest thing you can do are to pass LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/nvidia-tegra es2gears
Mar 12 12:26:06 <ogra_> ah, cool
Mar 12 12:26:19 <xranby> if the program for some reason are hardwired to mesa
Mar 12 12:26:33 <ogra_> you are using the alpha drivers if you used the PPA though :)
Mar 12 12:26:49 <lilstevie> I did something nasty in my own install and symlinked libEGL{whatever} to the nvidia ones
Mar 12 12:27:16 <lilstevie> ogra_, actually, not from the pap, just realised the link was from the ac100 wiki
Mar 12 12:27:24 <ogra_> ah
Mar 12 12:27:34 <lilstevie> well the entry on the ubuntu wiki
Mar 12 12:27:53 <ogra_> yeah, that links to the ones with the broken alternative
Mar 12 12:27:59 <lilstevie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100#Graphics
Mar 12 12:28:02 <xranby> lilstevie: try glmark2-es2
Mar 12 12:28:04 <lilstevie> ah
Mar 12 12:28:08 <ogra_> (the later ones didnt work on oneiric iirc)
Mar 12 12:28:16 <lilstevie> xranby, I did, with the horrible symlinking hack
Mar 12 12:28:37 <lilstevie> but the alternatives being broken in that package explains the issue
Mar 12 12:29:14 <lilstevie> xranby, score is 189 overall
Mar 12 12:29:43 <lilstevie> but I did not handle it as well as I probably should have
Mar 12 12:29:59 <lilstevie> I just symlinked mesa-egl to nvidia-driver
Mar 12 12:30:54 <xranby> hopefully we can get the alternatives correct for the precise release
Mar 12 12:31:13 <xranby> so that things work as intended out of the box
Mar 12 12:32:17 <lilstevie> well hopefully we get some hf drivers too
Mar 12 12:32:47 <xranby> lilstevie: at least things are better now compared to say 2009, back then some hardware got shipped without any hardware accelerated drivers at all like the sharp pcz1.
Mar 12 12:33:02 <lilstevie> true
Mar 12 12:33:46 <lilstevie> it was nice to have almost out the box support for acceleration on the tf201
Mar 12 12:36:23 <xranby> the interesting thing about the sharp pcz1 are that this machine can actually boot the imx53 kernels.. so in theory you should be able to get the imx53 system with hardware acceleration running on the pcz1 by booting up a new kernel and using the right xorg libEGL and friends
Mar 12 12:37:21 <lilstevie> I still wish I could get some acceleration on the galaxy tab 7" the original one
Mar 12 12:37:39 <lilstevie> cause that has a hummingbird processor, with SGX540
Mar 12 12:37:41 <xranby> which GPU are used on the galaxy tab 7" ?
Mar 12 12:37:46 <xranby> ok
Mar 12 12:38:12 <lilstevie> but that seems rather painful to actually get working
Mar 12 12:40:30 <steev_> xranby: the pcz1 is mx51 isn't it? should be able to use freescale's gpu stuff for it
Mar 12 12:40:40 <xranby> right :)
Mar 12 12:40:49 <xranby> its mx51 and got 512mb of ram
Mar 12 12:40:52 <xranby> + neon
Mar 12 12:41:16 <xranby> on paper it are still capable of running the latest linux distributions
Mar 12 12:41:35 <steev_> xranby: have they released the kernel sources yet?
Mar 12 12:42:00 <xranby> freescale have not released the sourcecode for the amd gpu driver
Mar 12 12:42:05 <xranby> since they do not own it
Mar 12 12:42:30 <xranby> the kernel sourcecode exist
Mar 12 12:42:46 <xranby> the hardest part are to deal with the bootloader
Mar 12 12:42:49 <xranby> red_boot
Mar 12 12:43:03 <xranby> you can boot your own kernel quite easily
Mar 12 12:43:32 <xranby> place it on a sdcard inside a boot folder and place a boot.conf containing    /boot/zImage   and bootflags
Mar 12 12:43:47 <xranby> you can then boot this kernel by holing down the both mousebuttons at statup
Mar 12 12:43:55 <xranby> its harder to replace the flashed kernel
Mar 12 12:44:30 <xranby> so if someone have a lot of free time
Mar 12 12:44:39 <xranby> 3d on the sharp are possible
Mar 12 12:44:54 <xranby> by using the latest freescale board support package
Mar 12 12:45:41 <lilstevie> heh
Mar 12 12:45:46 <lilstevie> sounds like a pain
Mar 12 12:46:38 <steev_> xranby: oh i work for Genesi, i know all about the freescale fun
Mar 12 12:48:23 <steev_> ugh, yeah i can reproduce that bug 952909 here on an efika :(
Mar 12 12:48:23 <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 952909 in accountsservice "Some users invisible/unusable" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/952909
Mar 12 12:49:39 <steev_> i'm surprised no one on the desktop team has an efika, we gave ~52 out to ubuntu developers, where did they all go?
Mar 12 12:52:24 <lilstevie> lol
Mar 12 12:52:41 <lilstevie> maybe people are having too much fun with it
Mar 12 12:54:00 <steev_> that's one of many possible situations
Mar 12 12:54:15 <steev_> i'd tell the desktop team to check their closets :P
Mar 12 12:54:57 <xranby> steev_: hi, are the armhf port fully hardware accelerated now on the efika?
Mar 12 12:55:19 <steev_> xranby: ubuntu or debian
Mar 12 12:55:40 <steev_> afaik, the debian image that markos made a few months back is
Mar 12 12:56:04 <steev_> i've been working on precise for the efika, but it's been a bit slow going
Mar 12 12:56:10 <xranby> ok. i guess i will have to test that one on my sharp then :)
Mar 12 12:56:20 <xranby> the debian image
Mar 12 12:56:44 <lilstevie> steev_, the efika looks kinda cool actually
Mar 12 12:56:50 <steev_> as i'm mostly doing it in my free time and i was sick last week and moved this past weekend.  still trying to unpack and set up my lab
Mar 12 12:56:58 <steev_> lilstevie: i enjoy them :)
Mar 12 12:56:59 <xranby> is there anything the community can help with to get the bardware acceleration bits in place?
Mar 12 12:57:06 <xranby> hardware
Mar 12 12:57:20 <steev_> xranby: nope, we can't give people access to the gpu source
Mar 12 12:57:55 <xranby> ok, i keep on working on the software layers that uses libEGL then
Mar 12 12:58:27 <steev_> xranby: sorry :/
Mar 12 12:58:42 <xranby> mostly workaround bugs in all the different binary blob drivers
Mar 12 12:58:44 <lilstevie> steev_, heh, I have been stuck with tegra hardware, I have the trimslice for a desktop, and a tf101 and a tf201 as laptops
Mar 12 12:59:07 <steev_> lilstevie: oh nice, i have 2 of the trimslices, one of the dev models, and one of the Pro units
Mar 12 12:59:23 <steev_> i still need to ship them back so they can fix the pmics (i was an early adopter)
Mar 12 12:59:39 <lilstevie> yeah I have a pro
Mar 12 13:00:50 <lilstevie> tf201 has been the most fun
Mar 12 13:00:52 <steev_> i may get around to it next month or so
Mar 12 13:01:03 <steev_> what's a tf201
Mar 12 13:01:13 <lilstevie> tegra3 is a lot more powerful than the older hardware
Mar 12 13:01:27 <steev_> lilstevie: i'd hope so :P
Mar 12 13:01:40 <lilstevie> heh
Mar 12 13:01:43 <lilstevie> I mean a lot
Mar 12 13:01:58 <lilstevie> doesn't have the tegra2 fail feeling
Mar 12 13:02:25 <steev_> didn't they gimp the memory on the tegra2?
Mar 12 13:02:54 <steev_> i've seen the mx6 in action, i'm pretty excited about it
Mar 12 13:03:57 <xranby> steev_: do the mx6 support opencl??
Mar 12 13:04:24 <steev_> xranby: i've not been handson so i'm not sure, iirc there was mention of it in the documentations at FTF
Mar 12 13:04:28 <xranby> i got the impression it supports "desktop grade" opengl so that you can basically run unmodified opengl applciations..
Mar 12 13:06:18 <xranby> if it runs opencl as well then its the first mobile gadget i know that can run really cool stuff
Mar 12 13:06:44 <steev_> that was in the documentation as well, without hands on, i can't say
Mar 12 13:06:58 <steev_> i don't wanna be all, oh yeah, it does and it's awesome
Mar 12 13:07:07 <steev_> and then be lying
Mar 12 13:07:18 <lilstevie> heh
Mar 12 15:53:05 <mik2> Hello guys,
Mar 12 15:53:05 <mik2> do you mind a beginner question about beagleboard xmand ubuntu?
Mar 12 15:54:02 <mik2> does anyone have experience with rcn-ee ubuntu images for beagleboard?
Mar 12 15:54:59 <mik2> I build an image following this http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Oneiric_11.10 and managed to run it... but I can't find a way to play audio, although from console it doesn't seem there is any error...
Mar 12 15:55:08 <mik2> did anyone expereinced it?
Mar 12 15:55:47 <brendand> mik2, do you have some audio device connected (headset etc)?
Mar 12 15:56:10 <GrueMaster> mik2: What does /proc/asound/cards list?  There has been an issue for a while on beagle audio in Ubuntu.
Mar 12 15:56:15 <mik2> headset yes, or a speaker with amplifier: same 'none' result
Mar 12 15:56:23 <mik2> let me try
Mar 12 15:58:00 <GrueMaster> Headset or speaker is irrelevant.  The kernel is not detecting the onboard audio codec.  I think it is because the driver needs to be built into the kernel (not a module).  See bug 925094 for more info.
Mar 12 15:58:01 <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 925094 in linux "No audio on omap (beagleXM) system" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925094
Mar 12 15:58:59 <mik2> $ cat /proc/asound/cards
Mar 12 15:58:59 <mik2>  0 [omap3beagle    ]: omap3beagle - omap3beagle
Mar 12 15:58:59 <mik2>                       omap3beagle
Mar 12 15:59:26 <mik2> oh my...
Mar 12 15:59:49 <mik2> thanks for this...
Mar 12 16:00:26 <mik2> does it mean that there is no way around it than building my own kernel?
Mar 12 16:00:43 <GrueMaster> Oh, you are seeing audio.  In that case, you need to fiddle with the alsamixer controls to boost volume.
Mar 12 16:01:19 <mik2> ah! that's a better news (ta!) do you mean from GUI presumably?
Mar 12 16:01:26 <mik2> or actually maybe the same
Mar 12 16:01:32 <mik2> I'll try that
Mar 12 16:01:45 <mik2> thanks a lot
Mar 12 16:02:06 <GrueMaster> alsamixer is a text gui of sorts.
Mar 12 16:04:09 <mik2> I see (I see it badly from minicom, I'll try ssh into it). thanks for this
Mar 12 16:04:27 <mik2> Generally, would you better use an official ubuntu image rather than an RCN one?
Mar 12 16:05:02 <mik2> I am asking this because.... I didn't manage to get an official ubuntu one to load and run, while it went quick and smoothly with ths rcn one
Mar 12 16:05:11 <mik2> but I don't know if there are downsizes...
Mar 12 16:05:45 <GrueMaster> You can also use screen on the serial console.  "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200" (or whatever your serial port is).
Mar 12 16:05:52 <GrueMaster> Better than minicom.
Mar 12 16:06:37 <mik2> oh! does it use an usb cable? (where did I live until now? :-)
Mar 12 16:06:40 <GrueMaster> Well, my "preference" is kind of irrelevant.  I work for ubuntu.  I am the Arm QA guy.
Mar 12 16:07:32 <GrueMaster> I was referring to your serial port on your desktop system.  If you are using usb serial, it is ttyUSB#.  If it is built in, it is ttyS#.
Mar 12 16:11:51 <mik2> screen (in the same port than minicom) seems to hung in my pc... must be something else. But thanks for the tip, I will investigate this in a second time. I actually can use a HDMI cable, so probably I'll go the easy way
Mar 12 16:13:55 <GrueMaster> Ok.  We have both headless (server) and Desktop images for beagle.  The desktop images do not put much on the serial console by default though.
Mar 12 16:14:27 <GrueMaster> What rev beagle do you have?
Mar 12 16:15:41 <mik2> xm rev c
Mar 12 16:15:51 <GrueMaster> Cool.
Mar 12 16:16:17 <GrueMaster> Care to test the latest stuff?
Mar 12 16:16:30 <mik2> you know what - along the side of being incompetent - I may have started on the wrong place for the beagleboard  ubuntu installation
Mar 12 16:16:44 <mik2> I can't promise results, but I can promise to try
Mar 12 16:17:10 <mik2> I am not sure what I need but I bet desktop rather than server is more for me
Mar 12 16:18:02 <GrueMaster> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/precise-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap.img.gz for desktop, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-preinstalled/current/precise-preinstalled-server-armhf+omap.img.gz for server.
Mar 12 16:18:37 <GrueMaster> Desktop is for doing anything with X.  Server is more for headless development work.
Mar 12 16:20:41 <GrueMaster> At any rate, we have decent installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OmapNetbook.  Just substitute the new image name.
Mar 12 16:21:20 <GrueMaster> I am really curious how it runs on your system.  I am seeing issues on my beagleXM Rev B, but I have nothing to compare it to.
Mar 12 16:24:13 <mik2> honestly following these installation instructions on that link, my SD card didn't make it to boot...
Mar 12 16:24:31 <GrueMaster> Buh???
Mar 12 16:24:38 <mik2> although its size is 1 Gb (not 4 as recommended) but I thought that it should be enough for starting
Mar 12 16:25:07 <GrueMaster> Ah, that would explain it.  The images are almost 2G uncompressed.
Mar 12 16:25:09 <infinity> mik2: You'd think wrong.
Mar 12 16:25:19 <mik2> well, I tried only the sh cmd: it didn't give any error so I didn't feel it was to be tried with 3 steps
Mar 12 16:25:29 <mik2> ah! sorry then
Mar 12 16:25:40 <mik2> I thought that was a minimal... my fault...
Mar 12 16:25:54 <GrueMaster> 4G is the recommended minimum.  The desktop image won't even fit on a 2G card iirc.
Mar 12 16:26:20 <infinity> It might, just barely.  Haven't looked in a while.
Mar 12 16:26:24 <infinity> But yeah, it hovers around 2G.
Mar 12 16:26:32 <mik2> listen, for audio capability is Server distro a good choice? I need to run some python scripts that play audio
Mar 12 16:26:43 <mik2> or is better desktop?
Mar 12 16:26:47 <infinity> mik2: If all your stuff is command-line, server would be fine.
Mar 12 16:27:05 <mik2> yes it is, Ok I'll try that! let me steal a card first :-)
Mar 12 16:28:14 <mik2> and generally I presume that python packages would be equally available in a server and in a desktop... right?
Mar 12 16:28:25 <infinity> Yep.
Mar 12 16:28:28 <infinity> It's all the same archive.
Mar 12 16:28:34 <GrueMaster> Yes.
Mar 12 16:28:39 <mik2> thanks
Mar 12 16:28:41 <infinity> The difference between image types is what's installed by default.
Mar 12 16:30:35 <mik2> ah ok
Mar 12 17:07:32 <mik2> GrueMaster: it is taking long to decompress so I think I'll let you know tomorrow how it did go with the server on BeagleBoard xm rev C
Mar 12 17:08:22 <GrueMaster> It should't take too long.  What size SD are you using?
Mar 12 17:15:59 <mik2> 4 gigs now
Mar 12 17:17:21 <GrueMaster> Ok.  That should boot to oem-config in ~10 minutes or less.
Mar 12 17:17:39 <GrueMaster> Desktop or server image?
Mar 12 17:19:57 <mik2> it was far more than 10 min (but my pc was doing other stuff). Desktop img
Mar 12 17:19:59 <mik2> booted
Mar 12 17:20:09 <mik2> now tells me: resizing root pa
Mar 12 17:20:16 <mik2> I should not be worried right?
Mar 12 17:20:53 <GrueMaster> This is normal.  It should reboot after this.  Then it will come up in X with oem-config.
Mar 12 17:21:24 <mik2> do you know username and pwd by hart? I can find them if not
Mar 12 17:21:27 <GrueMaster> The image resizes root to fill the SD card prior to running in it.
Mar 12 17:21:53 <GrueMaster> There are none by default.  oem-config will prompt you to create a user.
Mar 12 17:22:12 <mik2> cool, thanks
Mar 12 17:22:28 <mik2> hwclock: select(
Mar 12 17:22:33 <mik2> does it expect some input?
Mar 12 17:23:27 <GrueMaster> It shouldn't.  Are you in an X gui?
Mar 12 17:23:44 <mik2> no
Mar 12 17:23:50 <mik2> let me switch
Mar 12 17:24:52 <mik2> mmm nothing comes up as gui
Mar 12 17:25:01 <mik2> oh no!
Mar 12 17:25:15 <mik2> I didn't follow the instructions "update for BeagleXM rev B & C"
Mar 12 17:25:18 <GrueMaster> One sec.  I'm flashing a daily to SD now.
Mar 12 17:25:22 <mik2> grrr... sorry
Mar 12 17:25:32 <GrueMaster> No need.  That is for older releases.
Mar 12 17:25:43 <mik2> ah
Mar 12 17:27:37 <GrueMaster> Yea, that "update" was because TI released a new spin of hardware the week after Natty release.
Mar 12 17:27:49 <GrueMaster> I fixed the wiki.  Thanks for pointing that out.
Mar 12 17:28:05 <mik2> I didn't mean to :-D ahaha
Mar 12 17:28:19 <mik2> so I guess.. I should try to reboot...
Mar 12 17:28:28 <GrueMaster> Ok, I'm booting here.
Mar 12 17:28:34 <mik2> it is still hanging on hwclock: select(
Mar 12 17:29:06 <GrueMaster> Did you change console screens or something?  Try <ctrl><F7>.
Mar 12 17:29:56 <mik2> nothing comes out on the hdmi cable :-(
Mar 12 17:30:48 <GrueMaster> Weird.  This is the desktop image, right?  What other video source do you have plugged in?
Mar 12 17:31:25 <GrueMaster> I'm getting video on hdmi here.
Mar 12 17:32:07 <mik2> I have my hdmi cable into my pc monitor. It used to work with Angstrom
Mar 12 17:32:23 <mik2> I'll try to reboot and see if something happens
Mar 12 17:32:26 <mik2> nothing to lose
Mar 12 17:34:00 <GrueMaster> Yes.  Also, does your monitor support 1280x768?  I think that is the default res for some odd reason.
Mar 12 17:34:01 <mik2> now hanging on 'fsck from util-l'
Mar 12 17:34:43 <mik2> yes it does
Mar 12 17:36:53 <mik2> another reboot: stuck again on
Mar 12 17:36:53 <mik2> fsck from util-1
Mar 12 17:36:58 <mik2> util-l
Mar 12 17:37:12 <GrueMaster> hrm.
Mar 12 17:37:22 <mik2> I may want to try an older image
Mar 12 17:37:50 <GrueMaster> I'm booting the current desktop image here just fine (except no network or audio).
Mar 12 17:38:09 <mik2> ** Unable to read "preEnv.txt" from mmc 0:1 **
Mar 12 17:38:09 <mik2> Hit any key to stop autoboot:  0
Mar 12 17:38:09 <mik2> The user button is currently NOT pressed.
Mar 12 17:38:09 <mik2> SD/MMC found on device 0
Mar 12 17:38:09 <mik2> reading uEnv.txt
Mar 12 17:38:10 <mik2> ** Unable to read "uEnv.txt" from mmc 0:1 **
Mar 12 17:38:16 <mik2> do these things matter?
Mar 12 17:38:26 <GrueMaster> That is normal.
Mar 12 17:38:49 <mik2> now blocked on hwclock: select(
Mar 12 17:38:54 <mik2> funny
Mar 12 17:39:04 <GrueMaster> u-boot looks for preEnv.txt and uEnv.txt before loading boot.scr.
Mar 12 17:39:24 <GrueMaster> That I don't understand.
Mar 12 17:40:35 <GrueMaster> Are you seeing a text screen or something else?
Mar 12 17:41:07 <GrueMaster> You should be seeing a splash screen.
Mar 12 17:41:07 <mik2> I am still using minicom. I'll post you the output
Mar 12 17:41:17 <mik2> no I don't see anything from HDMI
Mar 12 17:41:31 <mik2> U-Boot 2011.12 (Feb 16 2012 - 18:25:19)
Mar 12 17:41:31 <mik2> OMAP3630/3730-GP ES1.2, CPU-OPP2, L3-165MHz, Max CPU Clock 1 Ghz
Mar 12 17:41:31 <mik2> OMAP3 Beagle board + LPDDR/NAND
Mar 12 17:41:31 <mik2> I2C:   ready
Mar 12 17:41:31 <mik2> DRAM:  512 MiB
Mar 12 17:41:37 <GrueMaster> Oh.  You shouldn't see much of anything on minicom.  How did you flash this image to SD?
Mar 12 17:41:41 <steev> heh
Mar 12 17:43:09 <GrueMaster> The last thing you should see on minicom is "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel."  Nothing else.  If you are seeing something else, you imaged the SD wrong or are using a different image.
Mar 12 17:43:31 <mik2> I will try tomorrow to use 3 separate commands rather than sh 'zcat....' as instructed in the web sitge
Mar 12 17:43:57 <GrueMaster> What did you use for "of=" ?
Mar 12 17:44:13 <mik2> /dev/sdb
Mar 12 17:45:16 <mik2> so you are using this one right? precise-preinstalled-server-armhf+omap.img.gz
Mar 12 17:45:43 <GrueMaster> Ok.  That should be right.  Might need to blank the SD first.  Try "sudo dd bs=4M count=256 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb"
Mar 12 17:46:04 <GrueMaster> That is the server image, not the desktop.
Mar 12 17:46:28 <mik2> did I say desktop? DAMN I DID! sorrry sorry sorry
Mar 12 17:46:30 <GrueMaster> And it should come up with more on minicom (although I prefer screen).
Mar 12 17:46:39 <GrueMaster> heh.  NP.
Mar 12 17:46:56 <mik2> really sorry, I am nackered!
Mar 12 17:47:17 <mik2> I think server should do as I don't need gui and as it will be able to play audio anyway
Mar 12 17:47:26 <mik2> blanking sd card now
Mar 12 17:48:01 <GrueMaster> What is the serial port on your desktop system?  The one that you are using in minicom?
Mar 12 17:49:06 <mik2> ttyS0
Mar 12 17:49:50 <GrueMaster> Ok, so to use screen, typ "screen /dev/ttyS0 115200".  It will look more like a normal terminal window.
Mar 12 17:53:20 <GrueMaster> Ok, I have a working desktop here.  Now switching to server.
Mar 12 17:53:41 <mik2> Ok thanks. It is still blanking the sd card... and I am sorry but I must leave now... I will be fighitng with this tomorrow morning again
Mar 12 17:54:09 <mik2> maybe I'll find you in this chat to tell you how did it go?
Mar 12 17:55:51 <GrueMaster> I'll be here.
Mar 12 17:56:06 <mik2> really sorry : must leave. Thanks for your great help and patience.
Mar 12 17:56:10 <mik2> Have a good night!
Mar 12 17:56:39 <GrueMaster> I think I hit the same issue.  Will let you know how it goes.
Mar 12 17:56:50 <mik2> cheers, thanks
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