**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 29 02:59:58 2012 Mar 29 03:35:54 even with softfp precise is much faster than oneiric Mar 29 03:37:54 well, I had no luck getting precise to install for me Mar 29 03:38:05 so I'm going back to oneiric for the time being Mar 29 03:38:17 I'll give precise another try this weekend when I have time Mar 29 03:38:25 thankfully I have a couple SD cards to use Mar 29 03:38:26 lilstevie: why much faster? Mar 29 03:38:53 don't know why, just is Mar 29 03:39:13 at least on the tegra3 Mar 29 03:39:22 haven't tried it on my tf101 yes Mar 29 03:39:23 yet* Mar 29 03:41:24 I hear you are all about the primes these days :-) Mar 29 03:42:40 hah Mar 29 03:42:44 not all about the primes Mar 29 03:43:00 just it needs more work than the tf101 at this point in time Mar 29 03:43:08 k Mar 29 03:44:08 anyway gtg Mar 29 03:44:18 class in 15 minutes is all the way over the other side of the uni Mar 29 09:22:28 ogra_, I just saw there's a newer L4T 15alpha since March the 12th Mar 29 09:22:40 no armhf Mar 29 09:22:42 I wonder if we could/should use it for the ac100 in precise Mar 29 09:23:07 ah, I forgot that armhf was desirable as well Mar 29 09:23:15 if you feel like, feel free to update, but given we dont build armhf images anymore it will only help armel upgraders Mar 29 09:24:57 ogra_: i assume you mean armel images ^ Mar 29 09:25:20 Indeed he did. Mar 29 09:26:06 we have added jogl armhf java bindings now.. the only part missing are the gles drivers Mar 29 09:30:58 ogra_: all in all cool. now gpu vendors have to ship armhf binarys :) Mar 29 09:31:42 for a LTS release with server focus this are a good call Mar 29 09:32:26 ogra_, well yes, it only helps those already using nvidia-tegra drivers Mar 29 09:37:58 ogra_, infinity do you know when/if we drop the armel (as it is now - armv7) port completely ? Mar 29 09:45:51 janimo`, not in 12.04 at least ;) Mar 29 09:46:12 well obviosuly not, but what of the next cycles? Mar 29 09:46:48 any idea what's happening with bug 952909? Mar 29 09:46:50 Launchpad bug 952909 in accountsservice "Some users invisible/unusable" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/952909 Mar 29 09:46:51 aqsk again at UDS i'd say ;) Mar 29 09:47:19 RoyK, as in #ubuntu-desktop Mar 29 09:48:51 ogra_: erm... it's an arm specific bug, isn't it? Mar 29 09:49:13 its a desktop package and there is no arm team anymore Mar 29 09:49:45 and iirc its also amd64 Mar 29 09:55:58 ogra_: no, it's not Mar 29 09:56:09 IIRC that was me guessing that, and I was wrong Mar 29 09:56:39 what happened to the arm team? Mar 29 09:56:44 well, still it is a desktop bug, there is no arm team anymore as i said Mar 29 09:57:01 was dissolved, people were put into other teams Mar 29 09:57:17 ok... so what would be a good alternative to ubuntu, then? Mar 29 09:58:35 and why isn't https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam updated on this? Mar 29 09:58:36 ? Mar 29 09:58:48 why would you need an alternative to ubuntu Mar 29 09:59:05 Hello guys! I've compiled a 3.0.26 kernel for ARCH=arm and when I emualte it through qemu, I get a black screen, any help? Mar 29 09:59:13 its not that the arm port goes away, its about having the actual teams take respionsibility Mar 29 09:59:19 because if there is no arm team, then I guess the focus on arm is rather sloppy Mar 29 09:59:30 no, the opposite is the case Mar 29 10:00:29 in the current transition phase that might not be true indeed, since not all teams have HW yet but it will get there Mar 29 10:11:55 ogra_: which boards have armhf gpu drivers in ubuntu 12.04 ? Mar 29 10:12:06 omap4 will Mar 29 10:12:06 i have a panda a imx53 and a ac100 here Mar 29 10:12:09 OK Mar 29 10:12:27 ac100 depends on nvidia ... mx5 depends on freescale :) Mar 29 10:12:32 i will install armhf on the panda then Mar 29 10:12:44 and keep on testing gles armel on the mx5 and ac100 Mar 29 10:13:10 thank you for the info Mar 29 10:23:32 hmm.... olegfink always tries to contact me, when i'm asleep... Mar 29 11:32:06 Just wanted to say thanks guys... Got my pandaboard ea working last night running the 11.10 server. Installed lode and that's working, and installing midori right now.. Mar 29 11:32:19 Lxde I mean Mar 29 11:32:25 Stupid autocorrect! Mar 29 11:33:35 Way faster and better on memory than the desktop image Mar 29 19:14:13 infinity: so did fedora decide not to follow suit w/ the hardfloat linker path? Mar 29 19:14:55 * dannf snagged hello-2.6-3.fc17.armv7hl.rpm, it uses /lib/ld-linux.so.3 Mar 29 19:15:18 and no compat symlinks i see in their alpha tarballs Mar 29 19:15:43 They dropped the compat symlink too? Mar 29 19:16:02 jcm will be in punching distance of me in 4 days, I'll get to the bottom of this. >:( Mar 29 19:17:14 ok - i might poke him on irc real quick - Sledge has been poking me about submitting the linker patch upstream. i fixed the no-float-arg case, but probably should chekc w/ them first Mar 29 19:17:56 Well, it should go upstream period. Mar 29 19:18:16 RedHat's biggest argument was that it wasn't upstream, and they were dragging their feet about being trend-setters. Mar 29 19:44:43 infinity: submitted the patch - jcm reiterated his upstream-first reqmt, said he'd look at the patch & comment when he gets time (probably not before you see him) Mar 29 23:29:50 Hi friends , i am trying to enable wl1271 by following - http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OMAP_Wireless_Connectivity_Calibration_Proccess_NLCP .. but i get into error "wl1271: ERROR could not get firmware: -2" .. but the .bin file is proper and i have copied to correct locan .. still i get this error .. has anyone faced this .. pls let me know any pointers ...more logs @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/906407/ Mar 29 23:41:40 avinashhm: What's wrong with the driver that ships with Ubuntu and just works? Mar 29 23:43:18 infinity, i am using linaro-* images .. don't find any driver .. besides we are enable on a custom machine .. so i am not sure if ubuntu supports that .. Mar 29 23:44:17 Fair enough. The wiki instructions seem straightforward enough for doing per-machine calibration. Mar 29 23:44:37 It's just also generally unnecessary. Mar 29 23:45:26 infinity, yes .. the instructions are quite simple and also i am having necessary binaries in right path .. "/lib/firmware/ti-connectivity/wl1271-[fw/nvs].bin" .. still i get this error .. Mar 29 23:46:22 avinashhm: Your pastebin doesn't show you following the HOWTO... Mar 29 23:46:36 infinity, one thing is i have integrated the wl12xx to the kernel as inbuilt .. can this make a difference .. not a loadable module Mar 29 23:46:46 avinashhm: You're not giving calibrator all the arguments it needs. Mar 29 23:47:47 infinity, below in the page, they have an example section .. so picking this .. i ll also give other arguments to check if it has better results Mar 29 23:48:29 avinashhm: The different examples are for different types of hardware. No idea what yours is. Mar 29 23:48:39 Also, did you rmmod wl12xx_sdio before starting? Mar 29 23:48:47 (Cause if that's builtin, yeah, you'll have problems) Mar 29 23:49:02 Since that module needs the firmware loaded, and you're moving the firmware out of the way. Mar 29 23:49:14 If you tickly the device, the module wakes up, no firmware -> boom. Mar 29 23:49:18 tickle* Mar 29 23:49:54 Even if your final product will ship with a monolithic kernel, you're probably going to need a modular one just to do this one firmware calibration thing. Mar 29 23:50:04 Then you can ship the new firmware with your non-modular kernel. Mar 29 23:50:55 infinity, oops .. now i understand .. i will make the module loadable and then make sure to caliberate before insmoding .. Mar 29 23:51:11 thanks very much infinity for helping .. Mar 30 01:54:52 Hey gang… So I got the 11.10 Server prebuilt image installed and working on my panda board ES. Wifi is working fine. I installed LXDE for a desktop. However, sound doesn't seem to work. Do I need to install the OMAP driver package to get that working? Mar 30 01:55:43 mkopack: have you checked mixer levels? Mar 30 01:56:12 Yeah, volume control shows not muted, vol maxed. Mar 30 01:56:41 For testing I downloaded a free MP3 file, and am trying to run it through the media player in LXDE, just not getting anything out. Mar 30 01:57:08 It's not the end of the world, I can live without sound, I'm just wondering if there's other issues (like GFX ) that I might also be missing Mar 30 01:57:20 mkopack: you checked all channels in alsamixer Mar 30 01:57:21 ? Mar 30 01:57:39 Also better to test with raw data (e.g. PCM) with aplay Mar 30 01:58:05 I don't know anything about the specific unit you're on, that's just the most obvious first thing to check Mar 30 01:58:06 Hmm, ok, I'll give that a try... Mar 30 01:58:23 tnx Mar 30 01:59:23 mkopack: Sound on the PandaES won't work out of the box in oneiric, we only added the UCM fixes for it in precise. Mar 30 01:59:28 Crap. I'm in the middle of doing the ROS install so I'm going to have to wait to install alsamixer Mar 30 01:59:38 ah, k Mar 30 01:59:40 thanks Mar 30 02:00:11 I'll probably move up to 12.04 once the actual release is out. but in the mean time I'm getting my teeth cut with this 11.10 Mar 30 02:00:42 I'd really recommend just trying precise now. We just released Beta-2, which is pretty close to where we expect final to be. Mar 30 02:00:51 And we'd appreciate bug reports to make it better. :) Mar 30 02:01:12 (Plus, your PandaES will run both faster and cooler with the precise kernel...) Mar 30 02:12:43 I'll give that a try over the weekend.. Luckily I have a couple 16 GB SD cards to play with Mar 30 02:13:34 I only get a couple hours at home at night to really work on this ting Mar 30 02:25:38 Ahh, a watched ROS never compiles ;) .... Mar 30 02:26:02 (actually it's going surprisingly well, I must say) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 30 02:59:58 2012