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Jun 07 03:38:22 <jackh> ogra_: we also have 4470 panda?
Jun 07 04:00:01 <virtuald> <3
Jun 07 05:10:17 <satellit_trim> testing sugar desktop IRC on TrimSlicePro
Jun 07 10:59:10 <_william_> ls
Jun 07 11:53:19 <rbasak> infinity: please could you review and sponsor my debdiff in bug 1004018? "make all_build" works. Is there anything I've missed?
Jun 07 11:53:20 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1004018 in debian-installer "Add highbank images" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1004018
Jun 07 12:45:43 <jtaylor> anyone with access to arm hardware want to help me verify if fftw3 neon extensions work?
Jun 07 12:59:09 <muriani> jtaylor: if I had my ubuntu sd in the panda, I would
Jun 07 12:59:40 <muriani> at it is relevant to my interests
Jun 07 13:00:01 <jtaylor> ubuntu is not required I just want to test if the runtime detection works
Jun 07 13:00:03 <muriani> the source download doesn't seem to have the test make target like the beta source did
Jun 07 13:00:20 <muriani> ok, well, I don't have any bootable sd in my machine atm :P
Jun 07 13:00:28 <muriani> and my panda's about 15 miles away
Jun 07 13:01:18 <muriani> I know that when I built from source gnuradio detected it when it builds
Jun 07 13:01:38 <muriani> btu when I run make test on gnuradio, it failed qa_fft :/
Jun 07 13:02:07 <jtaylor> I want to test it for the debian package
Jun 07 13:02:12 <jtaylor> it should also work on hardware without neon
Jun 07 13:02:18 <jtaylor> so my interest is the runtime detection
Jun 07 13:02:32 <jtaylor> and if it actually speeds it up
Jun 07 13:02:38 <jtaylor> their check:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028526/
Jun 07 13:07:25 <xranby> jtaylor: can you post a complete example
Jun 07 13:08:38 <xranby> that would allow me to test it quicker on more machines and not waste time completing the testcase
Jun 07 13:09:26 <jtaylor> one moment
Jun 07 13:16:15 <jtaylor> xranby: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028546/
Jun 07 13:16:42 <jtaylor> the build takes a long time
Jun 07 13:17:05 <jtaylor> if possible executed on a machine with neon and one without
Jun 07 13:19:36 <xranby> jtaylor: have you tested running this code on a non-arm machine?
Jun 07 13:19:59 <xranby> jtaylor: your second paste do only contains the commands you executed.. the code is still missing
Jun 07 13:20:43 <xranby> did you give me the correct paste?
Jun 07 13:20:48 <jtaylor> replacing neon with sse and avx works fine
Jun 07 13:20:52 <jtaylor> on amd64
Jun 07 13:21:29 <jtaylor> you mean a paste with source download and extracting?
Jun 07 13:21:49 <xranby> jtaylor: yes... how else would you expect me to test it?
Jun 07 13:23:06 <xranby> jtaylor: if you want us to help testing the autodetect code.. then post a working example including only this test
Jun 07 13:24:16 <jtaylor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028566/
Jun 07 13:44:16 <satellit_> I have a 64 GB SDXC (Sandisk) formatted fat. Can I install to it on my TripSlicePro and boot from it? Any help appreciated. (I do not want to interfere with the 32GB internal HD)
Jun 07 14:40:27 <djszapi> ogra_: hey
Jun 07 14:41:20 <djszapi> ogra_: for some reason, I cannot make the pandaboard sleep with Ubuntu 12.04. I am sure this worked before the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS installation, but I have not unfortunately tried this until now. Even "echo mem > /sys/power/state" does not put the pandaboard into suspended mode. Got a clue ?
Jun 07 14:42:07 <ogra_> sorrym, no, i'm on vacation (i'm actually not here, just sorting some non-work stuff)
Jun 07 15:03:05 <angs> has anyone used wifi doggle in ad hoc mode in ubuntu?
Jun 07 16:00:47 <ogra_> GrueMaster, heh, your son gets famous, i just read a raspberry article in the most popular german online IT news that praises win32imager over the top (and actually has a direct download likg for the zip in the article)
Jun 07 16:00:59 <ogra_> *link
Jun 07 16:02:02 <prpplague> hehe
Jun 07 16:02:22 <prpplague> GrueMaster: we use it for our validation images for panda....
Jun 07 16:04:37 * LetoThe2nd read it too.
Jun 07 16:04:41 <GrueMaster> Excellent!
Jun 07 16:05:04 <GrueMaster> Which reminds me, I need to update it soon.  Next rainy weekend...
Jun 07 16:05:11 <ogra_> prpplague, somke challenge for your next panda netbook project ... http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/07/thd-n2-kirf-macbook-air-ics/#continued
Jun 07 16:05:27 <LetoThe2nd> and i guess they got blackmailed to give a positive conclusion in the end, because  the main text was... lets call it medioce at best.
Jun 07 16:05:39 * prpplague looks
Jun 07 16:06:26 <prpplague> ogra_: yea i wish i could show you want _do_ have working, hehe
Jun 07 16:06:35 <GrueMaster> Ugh, Cortex-A8?  Better to use dual core.
Jun 07 16:06:46 <ogra_> not for that price !
Jun 07 16:07:26 <ogra_> a complete netbook for $149
Jun 07 16:09:21 <GrueMaster> I wouldn't hesitate to pay $199 for a dual core.  Much snappier.
Jun 07 16:09:32 <ogra_> heh, indeed
Jun 07 16:10:02 <GrueMaster> Although I'm not sure where I would use it in my current role.
Jun 07 16:10:06 <prpplague> ogra_: nice looking item
Jun 07 16:10:17 <prpplague> ogra_: that would be easy to "upgrade"
Jun 07 16:10:35 <ogra_> go ahead, i'll buy one ;)
Jun 07 16:14:55 <prpplague> hehe
Jun 07 16:14:57 <muriani> I'd love to use my old psion netbook-pro as local user i/o for my panda
Jun 07 16:15:32 <muriani> would have to figure out how to wire up the touchscreen, display, and keyboard though
Jun 07 16:15:52 <prpplague> muriani: hehe, pretty easy, i've done a toshiba libretto with omap4
Jun 07 16:16:43 <muriani> That migh be an easier solution... I'm just not sure what interfaces they used on the nbp
Jun 07 16:17:20 <muriani> would have to do some research. I like the form factor though, although the screen resolution is a *little* limited
Jun 07 16:18:02 <ogra_> psion ? thats 800x480 or so, right ?
Jun 07 16:18:09 <muriani> 800x600
Jun 07 16:18:19 <ogra_> yeah
Jun 07 16:18:54 <muriani> linux on that thing is a bit of a bear. Nearly unusable, at least in its current state
Jun 07 16:19:18 <muriani> but then it's a pxa255 or some such
Jun 07 16:21:19 <muriani> it would have a much shorter battery life running a pandaboard, for sure :)
Jun 07 16:22:30 <muriani> Might be easier to have the panda interface as a module that plugs into the rear of the unit or some such.
Jun 07 16:30:06 <dsa> does ubuntu-arm have network-manager?
Jun 07 16:31:03 <ogra_> ubuntu-arm is exactly the same as ubuntu-x86 if you use the desktop images
Jun 07 16:31:46 <dsa> I use rcn-ee's image,
Jun 07 16:31:53 <dsa> root@omap:~# sudo service network-manager stop
Jun 07 16:31:53 <dsa> network-manager: unrecognized service
Jun 07 16:32:01 <dsa> is it normal to not to have network-manager?
Jun 07 16:32:09 <ogra_> oh, well, talk to rcn-ee about rcn-ee images :)
Jun 07 16:32:26 <dsa> I have not seen him for 2 days
Jun 07 16:32:50 <ogra_> well, we only do the official images here ... cant tell if he uses NM in his
Jun 07 16:33:23 <dsa> why there is no offical ubuntu image for beaglebone whereas it is available for beaglebone?
Jun 07 16:33:50 <dsa> *beagleboard
Jun 07 16:33:53 <dsa> the last one
Jun 07 16:33:55 <dsa> :)
Jun 07 16:34:12 <ogra_> because nobody in the ubuntu teams has a beaglebone
Jun 07 16:35:11 <dsa> I hope beagle people will provide beaglebone to your team some day
Jun 07 16:35:47 <dsa> have you ever created ad hoc wlan network with embedded boards?
Jun 07 16:35:54 <ogra_> nope
Jun 07 16:35:55 <prpplague> and/or no one on the beagle team pays canonical to support it
Jun 07 16:36:16 <ogra_> prpplague, nobody pays canonical to support the ac100 or mx5 either
Jun 07 16:36:41 <prpplague> true, but $$ makes things go faster, hehe
Jun 07 16:36:46 <ogra_> oh, put omap4 in that list too
Jun 07 16:37:16 <ogra_> the only paid arm arches we have atm are the supercomputing arm thingies :)
Jun 07 16:37:30 <ogra_> afaik
Jun 07 16:37:33 <dsa> I set one ubuntu board in ad hoc mode by iwconfig. but I can not see it on my laptop by "iwlist wlan0 scan". I wonder if anyone experienced could suggest me any documentation/instruction or something else?
Jun 07 16:38:11 <prpplague> ogra_: yea, but omap4 was paid early on
Jun 07 16:38:27 <ogra_> yep, and is our best supported platform atm
Jun 07 16:53:57 <satellit_> I have a TrimslicePro and and Ubuntu Update Manager  keeps trying to install Linux kernel image for version 2.3.38 on Trim_Slice and fails as it is not signed...How do I get it to run? 2.6.38.3-1.03 "Requires installation of untrusted packages" and fails
Jun 07 18:40:13 <satellit_> answered...never mind
Jun 07 23:56:21 <TypoNAM> is anybody else having problems with ddd hanging with opening session in Ubuntu 12.04? I can't get it to do anything except exit and it prompting me cause gdb is busy...
Jun 08 00:38:22 <davecheney> is it possible to do-release-upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 alpha 1 on arm ?
Jun 08 00:38:50 <davecheney> do-release-upgrade currently says No new Ubuntu release available
Jun 08 00:39:22 <infinity> -d
Jun 08 00:39:34 <davecheney> tried that, no love
Jun 08 00:39:47 <davecheney> which versino of update-manager shuld I have ?
Jun 08 00:42:08 <infinity> Oh, you installed with 12.04, I assume.
Jun 08 00:42:18 <infinity> See /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
Jun 08 00:42:42 <infinity> When you install with an LTS, it sets it to "Prompt=lts", and doesn't offer upgrades to non-LTS by default.
Jun 08 00:43:58 <infinity> (change to Prompt=normal, and it'll work for you)
Jun 08 01:22:51 <davecheney> infinity: ta much, yes this was the LTS Omap SD image
Jun 08 01:23:33 <davecheney> infinity: all good now, thanks for your help
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