**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 13 02:59:58 2012 Jun 13 03:57:43 * prpplague looks around Jun 13 04:01:56 ogra_: hello Jun 13 04:02:16 ogra_: hmm, some folks are reporting that they are not able to send to the channel Jun 13 04:08:15 prpplague: Are they joined? Jun 13 04:08:45 prpplague: The only two modes this channel has (+c and +n) mean, respectively, no colour messages, and no external messages. Jun 13 04:09:15 thats probably it Jun 13 04:10:26 infinity: just thought i would ask since i have no troulbes Jun 13 04:16:00 infinity: ahh indeed, these users were logged in via the web interface on the beagleboard.org web site Jun 13 04:22:19 Hi, I have create a file system using 'sudo rootstock --fqdn evm8168 --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --imagesize 4G --seed build-essential,openssh-server,apt --dist natty --serial ttyO2', during booting i cannot see the login prompt on ttyO2 (http://pastebin.com/ZwexEa0U) Jun 13 04:26:01 testing Jun 13 04:26:07 ah, I can type now.... Jun 13 04:26:17 waltermixxx: now that you have a real client Jun 13 04:26:28 thanks again for your help :) Jun 13 04:27:01 now, do you happen to know why my keyboard and mouse are not being detected by my newly installed ubuntu image 11.10 ;) Jun 13 04:27:42 waltermixxx: helps to report what your platform is Jun 13 04:27:53 Beagleboard xM Jun 13 04:28:23 using the image and instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall Jun 13 04:28:30 using the 11.10 image Jun 13 04:28:31 :) Jun 13 04:29:05 booted up, and it went through the configuration on it's own, but when it came time to select a country, i was unable to. Jun 13 04:29:45 the site mentions this patch: Jun 13 04:29:47 Download http://people.canonical.com/~tobin/maverick/beaglexm.tar.bz2 Jun 13 04:29:50 cheng: We'll skip for a moment that rootstock is unsupported, and natty will be soon too. Jun 13 04:30:07 but when i clicked on it, the file could not be found Jun 13 04:30:08 cheng: You almost certainly wanted tty02 (with a zero), not ttyO2 (with an oh) Jun 13 04:30:46 waltermixxx_: I highly recommend using 12.04, not 11.10. Jun 13 04:31:00 i heard there were issues with speed? Jun 13 04:31:07 i could certainly down load and try Jun 13 04:31:08 :) Jun 13 04:31:17 I'm not sure what those issues would be. Jun 13 04:31:30 12.04 is armhf, and tends to be a little speedier overall. Jun 13 04:31:36 do you suspect I won't have keyboard and mouse issues, must be a driver issue. :) Jun 13 04:31:39 I will do that Jun 13 04:31:45 thank you for your advice Jun 13 04:31:53 should not take too long... Jun 13 04:31:59 I suspect 12.04's kernel will treat you better. I don't have an xM, but I know others who tested on them. Jun 13 04:32:12 it's 12:30 AM here but I cannot resist Jun 13 04:32:21 :) cheers Jun 13 04:32:47 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OmapDesktopInstall Jun 13 04:33:35 can this (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OmapDesktopInstall) be run on dm8168-cortex A8 chip? Jun 13 04:34:14 am i am not using xM, I can still apply the kernel to my board? Jun 13 04:35:15 cheng: I know nothing of the dm8168, but I suspect we don't supply images that will boot on it directly. Jun 13 04:35:19 downloading as we speak :) Jun 13 04:37:29 12.04 suppose to run under beaglexM? Jun 13 04:47:59 i will let you know cheng if it runs... but infinity says it does :) just writing the image to the sd card now. Jun 13 05:01:31 well it's running Jun 13 05:01:39 mouse and keyboard working Jun 13 05:01:49 just waiting for it to finish configuring Jun 13 05:02:15 i was able to select English Jun 13 05:02:20 and click continue Jun 13 05:02:22 :) Jun 13 05:36:38 infinity, thanks for the meta, I was first going to wait and see if the kernel boots for people in quantal before making it the default, but hey it's quantal Jun 13 05:38:18 well ubuntu 12.04 is up and running on beagleboard xM Jun 13 05:38:24 no sound working Jun 13 16:00:47 * satellit_ testing Deja Dup on TrimslicePro - Backing up to external USB 500GB HD should I expect any problems? Jun 13 16:01:26 backing up / and /home Jun 14 00:04:46 hello :) Jun 14 00:05:57 I have a question... Jun 14 00:06:36 I'm quite new, so some things may be harder for me to understand :) Jun 14 00:07:06 but I want to install flightgear on the beagleboard Jun 14 00:07:20 I have an xm, rev c Jun 14 00:07:45 I installed ubuntu 11.04 on it Jun 14 00:08:39 ubuntu 11.04 r7 minimal armel... Jun 14 00:08:58 sapiens: That's not an official Ubuntu image. Jun 14 00:09:06 sapiens: For starters, I'd suggest an official 12.04 image. Jun 14 00:09:31 Oh, at which point, you'll find out that flightgear doesn't work on ARM... Jun 14 00:09:37 infinity, I'd like to, but I need to have the openscenegraph installed Jun 14 00:10:09 how come it doesn't work? Jun 14 00:10:31 Because of the lack of openscenegraph, as you note. Jun 14 00:10:45 well... I have it installed on 11.04 Jun 14 00:10:46 ;) Jun 14 00:11:08 It installed good with the synaptic Jun 14 00:11:14 Yeah, and flightgear is also in 11.04 Jun 14 00:11:23 I have no idea if either actually works. Jun 14 00:11:24 I can boot it too Jun 14 00:11:42 hrm, openscenegraph looks like it just needs one of those GL fixes Jun 14 00:11:42 Oh, I see, it's GL/GLES fallout. Jun 14 00:11:50 but when in subsystems... I have a nasal runtime error Jun 14 00:11:56 sapiens: You would see better performance with 12.04 armhf. Jun 14 00:11:59 So, yeah, OSG on natty will work, but it won't have any hardware acceleration. Jun 14 00:12:22 GrueMaster: Yeah, but no openscengraph or flightgear on 12.04, so it's a moot point for him. :P Jun 14 00:12:34 :) Jun 14 00:12:45 It's going to suck anyway. Jun 14 00:13:05 No hardware acceleration, and I can't imagine it'll be "fast" with software rendering. Jun 14 00:13:13 hrm, if it's the same issue in precise, it's SRUable :) Jun 14 00:13:30 and it looks to be that way Jun 14 00:13:37 micahg: "one of those GL fixes", you say? You say this as if you've done some QTGL->GLES porting. Jun 14 00:13:52 infinity: no, but I've seen other people's patches :) Jun 14 00:14:18 micahg: Well, I look forward to seeing yours, then. :) Jun 14 00:14:22 I keep telling myself one of these days I'll figure them out Jun 14 00:15:06 ok, but seriously... I have these nasal runtime errors Jun 14 00:15:16 how can I fix them :) Jun 14 00:15:16 I guess at this point in Debian's release cycle there's no chance of GLES on arm for Debian Jun 14 00:15:42 sapiens: "nasal runtime errors" means nothing to me. Jun 14 00:15:53 micahg: Nope. Jun 14 00:16:00 * micahg passes sapiens a tissue Jun 14 00:16:08 micahg: And it'll be a bit of an uphill battle to convince people to do it, since our motivation is binary drivers. Jun 14 00:16:10 lol Jun 14 00:16:46 micahg: In Debian, if no one cares about binary drivers, it's just crazy extra work to have one port use GLES. Jun 14 00:17:22 * infinity is still really annoyed that GLES even exists and wasn't just, say, GL1.2 Jun 14 00:17:52 Would have been so much simpler if it had been a strict subset (or older version), instead of what it is. :/ Jun 14 01:32:28 howdy Jun 14 01:45:57 howdy, I just installed the latest 12.04 ubuntu for beagleboard xM and I'm not getting any sound... Jun 14 01:46:34 dummy output is listed in the sound control panel, play sound through.... Jun 14 01:49:34 initrd.img version 3.2.0-24-omap Jun 14 01:49:38 if that helps Jun 14 01:51:08 waltermixxx_: Probably needs someone to write a ucm profile for it. I don't have an xM. Jun 14 01:51:33 waltermixxx_: See the profiles in /usr/share/alsa/ucm/ for other boards. Jun 14 01:51:52 ok will check that out Jun 14 01:52:18 waltermixxx_: And /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-ucm.rules is where they get loaded. Jun 14 01:53:44 no beagle in there Jun 14 01:53:59 just panda pandaes spd4430 and tegraalc5632 Jun 14 01:54:08 waltermixxx_: That's sort of my point. Jun 14 01:54:25 i understood that, simply confirming :) Jun 14 01:55:01 should ubuntu be so slow on this board? Jun 14 01:55:09 not slow all the time Jun 14 01:55:10 Everything should be slow on that board. Jun 14 01:55:13 lol Jun 14 01:55:14 :) Jun 14 01:55:20 Also, running from SD is awful. Jun 14 01:55:29 yes I saw the swap file on it Jun 14 01:55:34 If you have a USB hard drive, I *highly* recommend installing to it. Jun 14 01:55:46 (using a d-i netboot image) Jun 14 01:55:52 just put the boot files on the sd and put the rest on the usb drive Jun 14 01:55:59 We're dropping the preinstalled images in quantal for this very reason. Jun 14 01:56:05 It's an awful user experience. Jun 14 01:56:09 i understand. Jun 14 01:56:25 so sound isn't happening any time soon? Jun 14 01:56:34 i suspect I don't need sound Jun 14 01:56:55 You could probably make sound go yourself with minimal effort. And if you do, I'd happily integrate the patch in Ubuntu. Jun 14 01:56:57 not sure I need a gui at this point... but it's nice to have another working sd image :) Jun 14 01:57:05 But I have no xM of my own to fiddle with, so.. Jun 14 01:57:08 Not much I can do. Jun 14 01:57:20 i appreciate the advice... Jun 14 01:57:27 If you don't need a GUI, start with a server image, you'll be much happier with the speed. Jun 14 01:57:36 Our default GUI environment kinda eats all your RAM. Jun 14 01:57:41 :) Jun 14 01:57:46 i think that is a good idea Jun 14 01:57:57 the server images available where I got the desktop image.... Jun 14 01:58:06 ? Jun 14 01:58:09 that was a question :) Jun 14 01:58:29 and the ones listed there, they don't have a gui? Jun 14 01:58:57 Ideally I just want a basic web server, and something to mess with gpio's Jun 14 01:59:05 i have a Trainer xM for beagle board Jun 14 01:59:15 hoping to light up some leds Jun 14 01:59:16 :) Jun 14 01:59:31 (people get so excited about that... me included...) Jun 14 01:59:40 starts there and then a dog treat dispencer.... Jun 14 01:59:46 with a web interface :) Jun 14 02:00:23 does the server image on the site come with apache? Jun 14 02:00:27 and python? Jun 14 02:00:36 or would I simply do a get-apt install apache Jun 14 02:00:40 kinda thing... Jun 14 02:00:52 you may be able to tell, I'm a linux nubee Jun 14 02:00:53 :) Jun 14 02:03:02 is it easy to take the sd card that I currently have and move the linux install onto a usb hard drive? Jun 14 02:03:03 waltermixxx_: Oh, sorry. Got distracted. Jun 14 02:03:07 np Jun 14 02:03:08 :) Jun 14 02:03:28 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-server-armhf+omap.img.gz Jun 14 02:03:43 awesome... Jun 14 02:03:44 Alternately, if you have an external HDD (do you?), you should try a netboot image. Jun 14 02:04:00 i think i saw some instructions on that Jun 14 02:04:09 Not much to instruct. Jun 14 02:04:32 http://mirrors.0c3.net/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/20101020ubuntu136/images/omap/netboot/ Jun 14 02:05:09 Grab either boot.img-fb.gz or boot.img-serial.gz (depending on if you're using a keyboard and monitor, or a serial console), zcat the image to an SD card, and boot. Jun 14 02:05:21 It'll install the OS to your hard drive, and the kernel and bootloader to the SD. Jun 14 02:05:29 wicked Jun 14 02:05:57 As for what's included in a barebones server install, the answer is "not much", but the whole archive is available to you. Jun 14 02:06:06 So, "apt-get install apache2", etc. Jun 14 02:06:12 keyboard and monitor Jun 14 02:06:25 so boot.img-fb.gz Jun 14 02:06:29 Right. Jun 14 02:08:27 http://mirrors.0c3.net/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/20101020ubuntu136/images/omap/netboot/ does not want to open... Jun 14 02:08:39 Oh, hahahaha. Jun 14 02:08:45 That would have worked better if it wasn't my local mirror. Jun 14 02:08:58 s/mirrors.0c3.net/ports.ubuntu.com/ Jun 14 02:09:20 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/20101020ubuntu136/images/omap/netboot/ Jun 14 02:09:37 I really should punch a hole for that mirror from the outside, since I make that mistake so often. :P Jun 14 02:09:38 thank you... that works Jun 14 02:09:46 np :) Jun 14 02:09:53 i appreciate the correction Jun 14 02:11:45 the uncompressed boot.img-fb file Jun 14 02:12:01 i zcat that to the sd card Jun 14 02:12:13 Well, the compressed one. Jun 14 02:12:24 oh no need to uncompress it, that's right Jun 14 02:12:31 zcat boot.img-fb.gz > /dev/sdX Jun 14 02:12:31 :) Jun 14 02:12:38 Whatever X is your card reader. Jun 14 02:12:43 mmcblk0 Jun 14 02:12:44 :) Jun 14 02:12:47 Or that. :) Jun 14 02:13:25 once I boot from it, will it give me the choice of what I want to install on the external drive? Jun 14 02:13:31 server or desktop? Jun 14 02:14:14 gonna try it now. Jun 14 02:14:41 It'll just be serverish, IIRC. Jun 14 02:15:14 You could preseed it to do desktop (or install ubuntu-desktop later), but since that's what we're trying to avoid... ;) Jun 14 02:16:21 server I think is what I am after :) and a slim line server sounds good Jun 14 02:22:22 i took some notes on the above, and will give it a shot when I find an external hd that is powered by external power adapter and not via usb Jun 14 02:22:26 hmmm Jun 14 02:22:34 I may try it first on an 8 gig usb stick Jun 14 02:22:43 that should work... for testing... Jun 14 02:22:55 boot from sd, and install on 8 gig usb stick? Jun 14 02:25:26 waltermixxx_: Yeahp, that works. Jun 14 02:25:37 waltermixxx_: That's how I test the installer when I don't have a spare hard drive to kill. Jun 14 02:25:59 waltermixxx_: It's obviously not going to be fast, though still a bit better than SD, in most cases. Jun 14 02:27:04 ok cool Jun 14 02:27:15 thanks again for your assistance :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 14 02:59:58 2012