**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 04 02:59:58 2012 Sep 04 08:22:48 qgis porting to beagleboard help?? anyone here? Sep 04 08:37:11 qgis porting to beagleboard help?? anyone here? Sep 04 08:38:54 beyond_: smart questions, anyone read? Sep 04 08:39:25 beyond_: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Sep 04 08:44:24 qgis porting to beagleboard ubuntu error.. Help please Sep 04 08:45:34 * LetoThe2nd sighs and heads back to work. Sep 04 09:55:25 LetoThe2nd, I like it Sep 04 09:57:08 lilstevie: what specifically Sep 04 09:58:23 the smart-questions faq Sep 04 09:58:45 lilstevie: its awesome. too bad nobody ever reads it. Sep 04 09:59:29 * lilstevie is reading it right now **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 04 10:09:37 2012 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 04 10:12:19 2012 Sep 04 10:37:11 rsalveti, bug 1045491 for you Sep 04 10:37:12 Launchpad bug 1045491 in pvr-omap4 "Moving mouse messes up the desktop" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1045491 Sep 04 11:10:55 rsalveti, hmm, i struggel to get any monitor output on the server image ... is there any trick to make that work if no xserver and no pvr driver are installed ? Sep 04 11:17:55 yippie, my new ac100 screen arrived Sep 04 11:20:50 marvin24, do you happen to know if i still need the kernel hacks if i want to use a 1280x720 panel with the 3.1 kernel ? Sep 04 11:21:11 ogra_: yes, the resolution is hard coded Sep 04 11:21:25 k, sad Sep 04 11:21:33 maybe we could read out the edid Sep 04 11:21:45 but I have no idea how Sep 04 11:21:58 well, i guess it would be fixed if i used a kms enabled kernel Sep 04 11:22:09 not really Sep 04 11:22:18 no edid, no autoresolution Sep 04 11:22:36 oh Sep 04 11:22:40 the schematic says something about a ddc connection, though Sep 04 11:22:51 i thought kms would rely on EDID data Sep 04 11:23:18 anyway, first i need to replace the HW :) Sep 04 11:23:30 * ogra_ is a bit scared to remove the bezel Sep 04 11:24:14 * LetoThe2nd hands ogra_ an "r" Sep 04 11:24:21 lol Sep 04 11:24:30 bavarians ... Sep 04 11:24:34 \o/ Sep 04 11:25:02 a bavarian would never call it "brezel" though, but "brezn" Sep 04 11:25:15 oh, indeed Sep 04 11:28:02 ogra_: yes, kms needs it Sep 04 11:28:15 but there's a hard code hack ... Sep 04 11:28:30 lovely Sep 04 11:28:41 seems the ddc data path is only connected to the hdmi port Sep 04 11:28:54 well, i'm willing to live with a hack if needed, after all 720p panels arent std on the ac100 Sep 04 11:29:15 (and i wouldnt have bought it if one of my ac100s wouldnt have a cracked screen) Sep 04 11:44:30 ogra_: what is the issue with the server image? in theory you should be able to get the boot log or the console login interface just fine Sep 04 11:44:52 unless your panda is not recognizing your monitor from the kernel side, at least not during boot Sep 04 11:45:07 and the modeseting from pvr-omap4 is the one enabling and starting your monitor properly Sep 04 11:45:12 rsalveti, it works just fine when doin a serial install, but without console= set no screen comes up on the monitor Sep 04 11:45:23 there is no pvr on server installs Sep 04 11:45:26 ogra_: and thanks for the buglink, got the kernel to build here, will give it a try now Sep 04 11:45:28 we cant ship X there Sep 04 11:45:54 that's fine, the kernel should still be able to set up the correct resolution and get everything in place for you Sep 04 11:46:02 even if you're not using X Sep 04 11:46:37 you mean if i dont have pvr installed ? Sep 04 11:46:43 let me boot with text and see if I can reproduce your behavior Sep 04 11:46:47 yup Sep 04 11:46:49 i dont even get a console after install :/ Sep 04 11:48:51 [ 0.288848] omap_sr_disable: omap_sr struct for sr_iva not found Sep 04 11:48:51 [ 0.291564] omap_hwmod: sl2if: _wait_target_ready error: -16 Sep 04 11:49:01 thats the only error i find in dmesg Sep 04 11:49:32 well, a few more omap_sr errors Sep 04 11:49:38 adding drm.debug=7 omapdss.debug=1 might help us understanding what is happening Sep 04 11:49:49 * ogra_ does Sep 04 11:53:45 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1185592/ Sep 04 11:55:12 ogra_: here it seems to work fine, after booting with 'text' Sep 04 11:55:19 rsalveti, what is bothering is that it works just fine on desktop ... Sep 04 11:55:25 the monitor turned itself on while opening the tty1 console Sep 04 11:55:34 on a server image ? Sep 04 11:55:44 note that desktop has no issues here either Sep 04 11:55:54 no, desktop, but with 'text' the X11 it not even started Sep 04 11:56:03 and it didnt with the alpha release (where we had no pvr) Sep 04 11:56:26 let me check the logs Sep 04 11:57:34 ogra_: when booting your desktop image, do you always see the splash before X11 starts? Sep 04 11:57:58 hmm, i didnt check, i think i didnt see it after install, but before Sep 04 11:58:22 i.e. booting the image showed it ... but it was gone after booting into the installed system Sep 04 11:58:26 ogra_: also, can you check what happens when you use the dvi output instead of hdmi? Sep 04 11:58:35 already tried, no change Sep 04 11:58:56 i would blame my monitor (LG) ... if it wouldnt work just fine in desktop Sep 04 11:59:02 with the same kernel Sep 04 11:59:47 [ 508.846771] omapdss DISPC: channel 1 xres 1920 yres 1080 Sep 04 11:59:47 [ 508.879577] omapdss HDMI: hdmi_runtime_get Sep 04 11:59:48 [ 508.879608] omapdss HDMI: hdmi_runtime_put Sep 04 11:59:48 [ 508.879608] omapdss HDMI: Enter hdmi_display_disable Sep 04 11:59:57 seems thats printed over and over in dmesg now Sep 04 12:02:01 ogra@panda:~$ who Sep 04 12:02:01 ogra tty4 2012-09-04 14:01 Sep 04 12:02:02 ogra pts/0 2012-09-04 13:51 (192.168.2.91) Sep 04 12:02:10 after logging in blindly ... Sep 04 12:02:29 so getty is there and i can log in ... just cant see a thing Sep 04 12:03:28 there's a lot of sync_lost as well... Sep 04 12:03:35 yes Sep 04 12:07:00 let me just give the new kernel a try (with in theory fixes the flickering issue) Sep 04 12:07:09 this new kernel changes quite a few bits at the dss and display driver Sep 04 12:07:20 and reverts a few changes for omap5 as well Sep 04 12:07:52 ok Sep 04 12:08:01 if you think it hleps i can test here too Sep 04 12:08:49 sure Sep 04 12:19:45 rsalveti: so you decided to go with the ~try kernel? Sep 04 12:20:04 where do you host the code? it's not coming from tilt-3.4.. Sep 04 12:20:18 ndec: not yet, still checking what would be the side effects Sep 04 12:20:44 we're using robclark's tree Sep 04 12:20:55 yeah, i know. Sep 04 12:21:19 but it breaks some display interface such as DSI at least. not sure if some of your users will care about that. Sep 04 12:21:38 yeah, that's one of the issues I noticed here as well Sep 04 12:22:57 DSI? you mean DVI, no? Sep 04 12:23:36 there is a cleaner solution that has been designed in omapdss, to fix the same issue. and that is being planned for upstreaming in the upcoming kernel. Sep 04 12:24:09 what is the current state of that? Sep 04 12:24:28 because we either go with the same solution from ~try or decide to backport the proper one that will land upstream later on Sep 04 12:24:37 i am hoping that we will get omapdss changes in our upcoming 3.6 tree. Sep 04 12:24:41 but there are a bunch of omap5 related changes at our tree as well Sep 04 12:25:04 and i am also interested in a backport of the 'clean' solution. Sep 04 12:25:17 omap5? Sep 04 12:25:35 because we got the tree from ti-3.4 branch Sep 04 12:25:39 and what do you call 'our' tree in fact? is it Andy's tree? Sep 04 12:25:56 yup Sep 04 12:26:27 yes, tilt-3.4 has some support for OMAP5, even though it's still missing a few bits. we have another tree we use for full releases on OMAP5. Sep 04 12:27:11 we will get a tilt-3.6 eventually with similar 'feature' set as tilt-3.4. except that our primary 'dev' and test platform will become OMAP5, instead of OMAP4. Sep 04 12:27:21 and that we will get the rework from omapdrm/omapdss. Sep 04 12:27:52 for OMAP4 'products' we will continue to use tilt.3.4, well our TI tree based on tilt-3.4 Sep 04 12:28:32 got it Sep 04 12:37:52 rsalveti, DVI should be working on my branch Sep 04 12:39:34 robclark: yup, but for some reason I'm not even getting my hdmi out to work Sep 04 12:39:43 still trying to understand why Sep 04 12:40:08 had to disable OMAP2_DSS_VENC and OMAP2_DSS_DSI for it to build Sep 04 12:42:44 rsalveti, hang on, I can pastebin my .config for you to cross check against Sep 04 12:43:15 rsalveti, http://hastebin.com/raw/gopiweniqi Sep 04 12:43:54 robclark: thanks, will check here Sep 04 13:04:20 rsalveti, btw, the weston shader optimizations were pushed to master last fri.. this should give a nice performance boost w/ pvr Sep 04 13:04:47 robclark: cool, nice to know Sep 04 13:04:58 ogra_: heya Sep 04 13:05:21 ogra_: on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/1045788 - I was trying ubuntu-server on my panda this morning and I'm seeing something very different Sep 04 13:05:22 Ubuntu bug 1045788 in linux-ti-omap4 "screen on quantal server images stays black" [High,New] Sep 04 13:06:16 ogra_: with hdmi plugged in, I see the language selection screen come up, but my keyboard does not work Sep 04 13:06:49 plars: hey :-) Sep 04 13:07:03 hey rsalveti Sep 04 13:07:14 rsalveti: your name sounds familiar...have we met? Sep 04 13:07:16 :-b Sep 04 13:07:26 plars: ;-) Sep 04 13:08:17 plars: so I guess you're at least getting your screen to work properly? Sep 04 13:08:21 the usb issue is a bit weird Sep 04 13:08:41 I'd not be surprised if this screen issue is related with the monitor you're using Sep 04 13:08:49 as I'm able to get it to work here just fine as well Sep 04 13:09:04 and ogra_ seems to be getting a bunch of hdmi_display_disable messages after boot Sep 04 13:10:13 rsalveti: yeah, likely Sep 04 13:25:09 rsalveti, ogra_: also, even with serial, mine appears to get stuck at some point... just have a black screen now after going through a couple of steps Sep 04 13:25:42 :-( Sep 04 13:26:04 wow, not sure what that was Sep 04 13:26:07 I got it back though Sep 04 13:26:21 no ^c or ^z, I think ^d finally did it Sep 04 13:26:30 it was after network detection, after it asked me for hostname Sep 04 13:26:33 screen just went black Sep 04 13:26:49 now after ^d it continues though Sep 04 13:27:09 if you didn't see this, maybe I will try to reimage this and reproduce in a moment... let me get through it as is for now thoug Sep 04 13:29:50 oh, you have to manually make a partition on it now? Sep 04 14:20:15 plars, ?? Sep 04 14:20:25 plars, you need to install to USB nowadays Sep 04 14:20:53 or yes, jump through several hoops and pre-partition the SD (with / and swap at minimum) Sep 04 14:21:52 apart from the screen issue both, omap and omap4 server images work fine for me Sep 04 14:28:03 I have finally managed to get omap4 installed - happened to see an "omapdss HDMI error : failed to enable GPIO's" in a tty - is that a known thing or should I report it - if so what should I report it against - thanks for any help :) Sep 04 14:29:00 or is it tied up with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pvr-omap4/+bug/1045491 Sep 04 14:29:01 Ubuntu bug 1045491 in pvr-omap4 "Moving mouse messes up the desktop" [High,Confirmed] Sep 04 14:29:10 does your system behave as expected otherwise ? Sep 04 14:29:34 I believe so ogra_ - this is the first time I've managed to get installed :) Sep 04 14:30:28 i think it prints that every time you swithc the display context ... i.e. from X to a tty or back, i see that here too Sep 04 14:30:36 aah ok - thanks Sep 04 14:32:04 though it is very very slow to respond to mouse Sep 04 14:32:23 hmm, i didnt find it slow Sep 04 14:32:34 i found firefox extremely slow though Sep 04 14:32:43 everything thats 3D rendered seemed fine Sep 04 14:33:20 (i dont think it is slower than unity-2d was with the framebuffer driver in 12.04) Sep 04 14:33:39 but thats indeed totally subjective :) Sep 04 14:34:06 7 seconds to report back from free -m in aterminal, 20 secs to give the me the shutdown menu, a long time for nautilus to show anything Sep 04 14:34:42 oh, thats disk I/O ... i thought you referred to graphics Sep 04 14:35:11 I was responding to " does your system behave as expected otherwise" Sep 04 14:35:25 well, using USB for / simply limits you to the max 24MB/s you can pump through a USB bus Sep 04 14:35:52 thats still a lot more than with SD, but its just USB after all Sep 04 14:36:03 aah ok - so that is 'expected' - if I'd thought more I'd have not asked lol Sep 04 14:36:13 also note that there are a lot of tasks running right after install Sep 04 14:36:28 ok - so yea - as far as graphics - I just have that bug I linked then Sep 04 14:36:41 update-xapian-index ... locate ... lots of processes that put a horrible load on the little panda Sep 04 14:37:01 yep Sep 04 14:37:03 try to let it sit fro 30min until all these bits are done Sep 04 14:37:08 ok Sep 04 14:37:28 and also do an additional reboot, that helps ureadahead to set up a better profile Sep 04 14:37:54 (i think it uses three runs (each run at a fresh boot) to actually build the proper profile Sep 04 14:37:59 ) Sep 04 14:38:33 ok - will do that - and then see how it looks - thanks ogra_ Sep 04 14:38:50 thanks for helping !!! Sep 04 14:38:52 :) Sep 04 14:38:58 welcome :) Sep 04 14:39:04 * ogra_ is happy about every additional tester Sep 04 14:39:07 lol Sep 04 14:39:18 I blame balloons - so you are safe :) Sep 04 14:39:24 haha Sep 04 14:40:11 I test this and xubuntu - ubuntu has enough people :) Sep 04 14:40:25 true Sep 04 14:41:00 (though i bet plars would disagree ... ) Sep 04 14:41:07 :) Sep 04 14:41:31 I guess there's never enough people testing in truth Sep 04 14:41:38 yeah Sep 04 14:41:44 hah! Sep 04 14:43:49 ohai balloons Sep 04 14:47:54 * balloons waves at elfy Sep 04 14:48:40 * elfy would wave back but the channel's logged ... :p Sep 04 14:49:09 * ogra_ ponders if having the bootloader partition automounted after install is a bu or not Sep 04 14:49:12 *bug Sep 04 14:49:24 we used to hide it in the past Sep 04 14:54:43 yay, my ac100 kernel with 1280x720 hack works Sep 04 14:55:48 ogra_, nice, I kinda want an ac100 Sep 04 14:55:55 seems like a bit of fun Sep 04 14:56:00 buy one then :) Sep 04 14:56:05 hah Sep 04 14:56:06 far too expensive. Sep 04 14:56:20 * lilstevie doesn't think he could convince the mrs that he needs it Sep 04 14:57:02 * LetoThe2nd repeatedly thought hard about if he needs another arm tablet/notebook device. i couldn't find any use case, so the answer obviously is no. Sep 04 14:57:14 LetoThe2nd, http://www.amazon.de/Toshiba-AC100-10V-Netbook-Android-schwarz/dp/B003YJ67T2 Sep 04 14:57:17 169€ Sep 04 14:57:40 hmm... good price. Sep 04 14:57:46 ogra_: do they ship to UK? Sep 04 14:58:08 i think you can still get them used on amazon.co.uk somewhere :) Sep 04 14:58:13 ogra_: jsut for _having_ but not _using_ 170€ is still too much. Sep 04 14:58:21 xnox, you likely dont want a german kbd :) Sep 04 14:58:39 ogra_: yes. I want US one Sep 04 14:58:50 there are no US ac100's Sep 04 14:58:53 ogra_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/1045855 any suggestions what else I could try here? Sep 04 14:58:54 Ubuntu bug 1045855 in linux-ti-omap4 "usb keyboard doesn't work during installation of ubuntu-server on panda" [Undecided,New] Sep 04 14:59:08 uk, fr, russian, german iirc Sep 04 14:59:12 ogra_: US never gets the cool toys :/ Sep 04 14:59:41 plars, do you have a serial console enabled when it doesnt work ? Sep 04 14:59:57 ogra_: according to amazon.co.uk 169 EUR is 287 GBP, instead of 133 GBP Sep 04 15:00:13 i have seen d-i take the input from serial while displaying on framebuffer before Sep 04 15:00:33 ogra_: I do, but when I switch over to the serial pre-env, it seems that nothing is shown on the graphical display, so there's nothing to interact with Sep 04 15:00:44 xnox, heh, yeah, they are bad at math ... especially when it comes to GBP Sep 04 15:01:01 ogra_: I did try pressing keys on the serial console, just to see if it would affect what was happing on my screen, no luck Sep 04 15:01:18 plars, well, for laughs, try hitting the up/down keys in your serial console and watch the monitor Sep 04 15:01:20 ogra_: i think they thing they are rather good with math, and customers aren't Sep 04 15:01:26 ogra_: yeah, tried that Sep 04 15:01:27 ah, you did Sep 04 15:02:02 I'll play with it some more later... let me get through some more tests Sep 04 15:02:34 yeah, as lon as seerial works i'm not too concerned Sep 04 15:02:49 plain serial installs are fine for server ... Sep 04 15:03:13 (not that we dont need to fix this, but its not a beta blocker imho) Sep 04 15:03:21 ogra_: right Sep 04 15:03:27 I know what you mean :) Sep 04 15:03:35 it's possible to install for sure, so it's good enough for beta Sep 04 15:03:40 yep Sep 04 15:03:52 i'll have to write a little novel for the release notes though Sep 04 16:16:34 Not sure if anyone has seen this yet, but it looks interesting. http://cubieboard.org Sep 04 16:17:52 like a beaglebone :) Sep 04 16:18:16 Except half price & with video + SATA. Sep 04 16:19:31 that an all-winner based? Sep 04 16:19:38 ahh right Sep 04 16:19:40 yea A10 Sep 04 16:20:27 the headphone jacks are really clever placed Sep 04 16:29:39 indeed Sep 04 16:34:11 someone needs start mainlining the allwinner stuff Sep 04 16:34:29 hehe Sep 04 16:54:16 another allwinner based board? Sep 04 16:54:31 yep Sep 04 16:54:44 very cheap, and mali GPU Sep 04 16:54:46 suihkulokki: I think there are a few folks working on that already Sep 04 16:55:11 problem is that people got it all wrong at the beginning, it needs rework before being able to send anything upstream Sep 04 16:55:41 It looks a lot like what luke was trying to get done with PCMCIA-format A8, but only 1GB RAM :-( Sep 04 16:58:57 wookey: yea it has some nice features and good size, but between lack of good mainline support and low amount of ram..... Sep 04 17:07:33 robclark: argh, worked fine with your config, need to check what caused the issue with the original one I used Sep 04 19:14:34 rsalveti: have a fun trip back home? Sep 04 19:38:05 well omap4+armhf is working better than it did except for some wierd flashing in unity. why are fonts corrupted in the terminal in openbox? Sep 04 19:41:41 jimerickson: because they hate you Sep 04 19:41:57 i thought as much! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 05 02:59:59 2012