**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 28 02:59:56 2012
Sep 28 07:44:44 <sveinse> Does Ubuntu/Debian have any mechanism for deferring some action after next reboot and not more than once?
Sep 28 08:03:57 <ogra_> janimo, kernel build failed :(
Sep 28 08:04:12 <ogra_> (it seems to use Werror ?!?)
Sep 28 08:08:01 <ogra_> oh, only -Werror=maybe-uninitialized
Sep 28 08:35:48 <ogra_> janimo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1247107/ i guess we should drop all these hardcoded -Werrors ;)
Sep 28 09:01:53 <janimo> ogra_, I am on it. I built using 4.6 and worked fine :(
Sep 28 09:01:56 <janimo> 4.7 is pickier
Sep 28 09:02:22 <janimo> I cross-built on precise forgetting there may be toolchain issues if uploading to quantal
Sep 28 09:02:48 <janimo> I hate it when I need to bump the ABI with no .deb available and have to do the manual creation of those files and dirs
Sep 28 09:03:23 <janimo> ogra_, lots of Werrors in the tegra kernel btw. I'd keep them there thougg but I'll pay more attention when testing the build
Sep 28 09:13:26 <hrw> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2012/09/28/lets-take-a-look-at-arm-boards-again/ - opinions?
Sep 28 09:15:58 <bizulk> hi ! has the ubuntu-arm been installed on commercial device lie : archos 32,43 or other omap based mobile devices
Sep 28 09:16:33 <ogra_> janimo, well, according to ppisati thats not usual in kernel builds
Sep 28 09:16:43 <LetoThe2nd> hrw: opinion: 500 - Internal Server Error
Sep 28 09:16:49 <suihkulokki> likewise
Sep 28 09:16:54 <ogra_> janimo, i would drop them, in case anyone rebuilds with an exotic toolchain
Sep 28 09:17:22 <janimo> ogra_, probably makes sense. No idea. Don't these catch actual bugs as in userspace code?
Sep 28 09:17:41 <janimo> Or enforce some coding conventions. Some are really picky I agree.
Sep 28 09:17:42 <ogra_> usually warnings arent errors :)
Sep 28 09:17:52 <hrw> checkng
Sep 28 09:17:56 <LetoThe2nd> bizulk: should be doable. archos even offers an "open" bootloader.
Sep 28 09:17:59 <ogra_> and kernel builds always spill warnings
Sep 28 09:18:37 <LetoThe2nd> bizulk: there also are positive reports, but no "1-2-3 click here, done" guide.
Sep 28 09:20:09 * ogra_ hugs ppisati for the fixing of bug 1045855
Sep 28 09:20:09 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1045855 in linux-ti-omap4 "usb keyboard doesn't work during installation of ubuntu-server on panda" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1045855
Sep 28 09:20:45 <ogra_> was the udeb actually missing ?
Sep 28 09:22:32 <ogra_> hrw, "Error establishing a database connection" over here
Sep 28 09:23:06 <suihkulokki> it's available on planet.linaro.org tho
Sep 28 09:24:56 <ogra_> yeah, i read it on my tablet during the coffeebreak i just had ... there it worked fine
Sep 28 09:25:24 <ogra_> using the link from g+ though
Sep 28 09:25:47 <suihkulokki> hrw: you should mention on that the A10 is not only lacking in mainline kernel, but also no public documentation either
Sep 28 09:25:57 <ogra_> there is
Sep 28 09:26:10 <suihkulokki> url?
Sep 28 09:26:14 <ogra_> (me is just fighting with some 100% chinese PDFs)
Sep 28 09:26:39 <suihkulokki> ...from the dark alleys of the internets
Sep 28 09:26:47 <ogra_> ugh, no idea anymore, its for the script.bin stuff though ... butu googling definitely got me other pdfs too
Sep 28 09:26:59 <hrw> suihkulokki: add comment?
Sep 28 09:27:06 <ogra_> if you want that one i can push it somewhere
Sep 28 09:27:06 <hrw> once I get mysql working again
Sep 28 09:27:38 <suihkulokki> ogra_: doesn't count as public docs.. more like leaked docs.
Sep 28 09:27:44 <ogra_> heh, ok
Sep 28 09:27:59 <ogra_> yeah, might be leaked ....
Sep 28 09:28:22 <ogra_> their way of doing their own devicetree type of thing is really annoying
Sep 28 09:28:52 <LetoThe2nd> hrw: i know that its not really in the dev board scene already, but what about all that marvell stuff?
Sep 28 09:29:02 <ogra_> ++
Sep 28 09:29:26 <ogra_> once there are armadaxp boards that workstation thing should be possible
Sep 28 09:29:27 <LetoThe2nd> i mean, they pretty much always have the desired sata.
Sep 28 09:29:52 <LetoThe2nd> its just that the widely available stuff from them is still armv6/armv5
Sep 28 09:29:53 <ogra_> the armadaxp's i have seen even take normal dram
Sep 28 09:30:03 <ogra_> xp is v7
Sep 28 09:30:20 <suihkulokki> no gpu or even framebuffer on armadaxp
Sep 28 09:30:24 <LetoThe2nd> ogra_: is there already an affordable kit?
Sep 28 09:30:25 <ogra_> quad core 1.2GHz
Sep 28 09:30:31 <ogra_> suihkulokki, PCI slots ;)
Sep 28 09:30:40 <LetoThe2nd> suihkulokki: what would i need that for?
Sep 28 09:30:43 <ogra_> LetoThe2nd, i only saw pre-prod
Sep 28 09:31:03 <LetoThe2nd> ogra_: ok, so my assumption "not yet" still holds true.
Sep 28 09:31:13 <ogra_> yeah
Sep 28 09:31:35 <ogra_> but there should be some buyable ones soon
Sep 28 09:31:43 <suihkulokki> ogra_: need x86 emulation for those :)
Sep 28 09:31:53 <LetoThe2nd> i mean, all those cheap qnap mini nas things make nice hackable things after all.
Sep 28 09:32:27 <ogra_> suihkulokki, do i ? i thought the server boards with AXP on them will have them by default
Sep 28 09:32:48 <suihkulokki> ogra_: you are aware how video cards are initialized?
Sep 28 09:33:01 <LetoThe2nd> openrd ultimate has long had pci anyways.
Sep 28 09:33:17 <ogra_> suihkulokki, something you should be able to fake in a driver, no ?
Sep 28 09:33:26 <hrw> LetoThe2nd: openrd is armv5
Sep 28 09:33:42 <LetoThe2nd> hrw: exactly what i said above.
Sep 28 09:34:03 <LetoThe2nd> i just mean that pci on arm is not very far away.
Sep 28 09:35:20 <LetoThe2nd> don't know if marvell is still so bi***ing about documentation, though
Sep 28 09:35:23 <suihkulokki> ogra_: sure, but someone needs to write the code to do so first
Sep 28 09:35:51 <ogra_> indeed
Sep 28 09:37:35 <LetoThe2nd> huh, *write* code?
Sep 28 09:37:48 <LetoThe2nd> why can't we just *download* the codes?
Sep 28 09:37:56 <LetoThe2nd> someone please send me the exact steps!
Sep 28 09:38:01 <ogra_> haha
Sep 28 09:41:33 <hrw> ok, works again
Sep 28 09:49:39 <bizulk> I would like to thanks tu arm-ubuntu community for the DSP integration on OMAP, I'm working on this for 4 Weeks. And finally got the video working on 12.04 (thanks for Robert CN scripts that make a got stuff for downloading a clean kernel image with dsp support). I was going onto this conclusion : "Everybody knows what it is, knows somebody that seen it working, but neved seen it himself neither how to make it works"
Sep 28 09:50:18 <ogra_> bizulk, did you file the bug as i asked you, so ppisati can put it iun the official kernel ?
Sep 28 09:51:04 <bizulk> no still not. I may do it know
Sep 28 09:51:16 <bizulk> where shall I post it ?
Sep 28 09:51:31 <ogra_> on the bugtracker url i gave you last time :)
Sep 28 09:52:01 <ogra_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
Sep 28 09:52:21 <ogra_> 8there is a "report a bug" button on the right
Sep 28 09:52:53 <bizulk> ogra_:ok I do it know
Sep 28 09:53:14 <ogra_> thanks, give us the bugnumber here afterwards
Sep 28 09:53:45 <bizulk> Are we talking about the /proc/config.gz missing file, or the tidspbridge stuff ?
Sep 28 09:53:48 <bizulk> or both
Sep 28 09:54:08 <ogra_> config.gz isnt a bug
Sep 28 09:54:22 <ogra_> (we ship the config as text file already)
Sep 28 09:54:55 <bizulk> that's what I was thinking
Sep 28 09:55:24 <ogra_> well, i told you last time that its on purpose ... didnt change yet  since ;)
Sep 28 09:55:30 <bizulk> I expect the answer to be : this is not a but as gstreamer does not embbed the gst-dsp plugin on the dist
Sep 28 09:56:21 <ogra_> well, if the kernel option can be turned on without issues ... even though we dont have the dsp package you shouldnt need t5o recompile your kernel to use it if possible
Sep 28 09:56:44 <dholbach> hey hey
Sep 28 09:56:49 <ogra_> heh
Sep 28 09:56:54 <ogra_> welcome to the club dholbach
Sep 28 09:56:57 <dholbach> :)
Sep 28 09:57:12 <dholbach> I was wondering if we had some good instructions somewhere to get 12.10 on the Mele A1000 :)
Sep 28 09:57:34 <ogra_> no, but there are community people somewhere with images and install instructions
Sep 28 09:57:49 <LetoThe2nd> miele a1000? a dishwasher?
Sep 28 09:58:02 <ogra_> i'm trying to get an imager for the zatab working before UDS, the a100 shouldnt be to hard to support from that
Sep 28 09:58:09 <dholbach> LetoThe2nd, no, I'm afraid not - http://dx.com/p/mele-a2000-1080p-android-2-3-network-multi-media-player-w-sata-usb-hdmi-lan-vga-wifi-4gb-131566 :)
Sep 28 09:58:18 <LetoThe2nd> dholbach: ah dammit
Sep 28 09:58:42 <dholbach> LetoThe2nd, a dishwasher might make a more interesting news story, I agree :)
Sep 28 09:58:45 <ogra_> http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/04/28/how-to-create-your-own-debian-ubuntu-image-for-mele-a1000-allwinner-a10-based-stb/
Sep 28 09:58:48 <bizulk> ogra_: you're right, recompile it on the omap would be a real pain
Sep 28 09:58:55 <LetoThe2nd> looks nice though. but yet another allwinner.
Sep 28 09:59:06 <ogra_> allwinner isnt that bad ...
Sep 28 09:59:14 <ogra_> that it is a8 is bad :)
Sep 28 09:59:24 <LetoThe2nd> ogra_: hehehe
Sep 28 09:59:32 <ogra_> the same CPU with dual core would be awesome
Sep 28 09:59:44 <dholbach> thanks ogra_ - I'll try that out
Sep 28 10:00:11 <bizulk> ogra_: my god this site signing in process is a big armor
Sep 28 10:00:12 <LetoThe2nd> given the price tag it might be a nice sidekick device indeed.
Sep 28 10:00:46 <ogra_> yeah, the zatab i have here has massive issues though ...
Sep 28 10:00:59 <LetoThe2nd> ogra_: like hdmi not working? ;)
Sep 28 10:01:04 <ogra_> apps often hang in android
Sep 28 10:01:16 <ogra_> due to the CPU being maxed out
Sep 28 10:01:41 <LetoThe2nd> dholbach: do you know how all that storage/interface things are glued to the cpu?
Sep 28 10:01:54 <ogra_> badly :)
Sep 28 10:01:59 <dholbach> LetoThe2nd, I'm afraid I don't
Sep 28 10:02:04 <LetoThe2nd> all usb, i guess.
Sep 28 10:02:09 * ogra_ tries to get the MMC to work on his zatab kernel since over a week now 
Sep 28 10:02:30 <hrw> ogra_: Allwinner A15 will be dualcore A7 iirc
Sep 28 10:02:40 <ogra_> usb works fien so i can run an ubuntu rootfs ... but i cant convince the kernel to keep the MMC powered on once it booted
Sep 28 10:02:50 <ogra_> hrw, yeah ... will be ... :)
Sep 28 10:03:27 <hrw> ogra_: anyway I keep away from anything in mainline kernel (or on a way to it)
Sep 28 10:03:46 <ogra_> not in mainline you mean ?
Sep 28 10:04:03 <hrw> yes ;)
Sep 28 10:04:09 <ogra_> :)
Sep 28 10:18:13 <bizulk> ogra_: my bug no must be : 1058022
Sep 28 10:18:19 <bizulk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1058022
Sep 28 10:18:21 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1058022 in linux "no tidspbridge support in kernel." [Undecided,New]
Sep 28 10:18:30 <ogra_> bizulk, thnaks a lot
Sep 28 10:18:58 <bizulk> ho great stuff this bot. I dream to install such stuff in my office.
Sep 28 10:19:10 <bizulk> (lunch time now)
Sep 28 10:27:56 <ogra_> bizulk, oh, i was hoping you would state the exact options that need to be enabled in the bug so ppisati doesnt need to dig around
Sep 28 10:28:51 <ogra_> bizulk, the page you linked to isnt helpful for finding that option
Sep 28 10:57:10 <ppisati> bizulk: i'll take a look
Sep 28 11:27:22 <ogra_> marvin24, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1247332/ ... not sure whats up with your package cache, but squeak-vm is available for me on all armhf platforms
Sep 28 11:40:30 <marvin24> ogra_: marvin24?
Sep 28 11:40:56 <ogra_> oh, i mixed you up
Sep 28 11:40:58 <ogra_> lol
Sep 28 11:40:59 <ogra_> sorry
Sep 28 11:41:08 <ogra_> ETOOMANYMARCS
Sep 28 11:46:06 <bizulk> ogra_: I'll post the config file
Sep 28 11:46:14 <ogra_> ppisati, ^^^
Sep 28 11:51:16 <ppisati> ogra_: you mean squeak-vm or the config file? :)
Sep 28 11:51:41 <ogra_> the config file, unless you want to add smalltalk support to the kernel now :)
Sep 28 11:53:04 <ppisati> bizulk: add the config diff to the lp bug you just created
Sep 28 12:19:02 <janimo> ogra_, I have uploaded a new ac100 package, I hope it gets through soon and actually builds this time
Sep 28 12:19:12 <ogra_> yay
Sep 28 12:19:16 <doko> ogra_, would you mind looking at the libaio ftbfs? it crashes the buildd machines ...
Sep 28 12:19:17 <ogra_> lets bribe infinity ;)+
Sep 28 12:20:20 <ogra_> doko, i dont see it on http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/
Sep 28 12:20:57 <marvin24> janimo: hey, thanks
Sep 28 12:21:13 <doko> ogra_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libaio/+bug/1058081
Sep 28 12:21:14 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1058081 in libaio "libaio ftbfs on armel/armhf" [High,Confirmed]
Sep 28 12:29:24 <ogra_> hmm,. the build seems to work just fine ... but these tests even make my sabre cpu start glowing
Sep 28 12:30:42 <doko> there's a bug report about an invalid test case too
Sep 28 12:31:53 <ogra_> ho can something that builds in 5 seconds take so long for its selftests, tsk
Sep 28 12:33:52 <ogra_> doko, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1247430/
Sep 28 12:33:54 <ogra_> hmm
Sep 28 12:33:59 <ogra_> no issues
Sep 28 12:38:30 <ogra_> doko, where is the ftbfs buildlog so i can compare the two ?
Sep 28 12:38:50 <doko> ogra_, there is none. buildd dies
Sep 28 12:39:02 <ogra_> i can imagine, these tests are really evil
Sep 28 12:39:31 <ogra_> i have no panda set up for building atm, but will try on a panda as soon as i have one ready
Sep 28 12:42:12 <ogra_> doko, the debian/rules file has an uption to pass "nocheck", will anone kill me if i just disable the tests on arm for now ?
Sep 28 12:42:24 <ogra_> *option
Sep 28 12:43:31 <highvoltage> does this boot ubuntu? http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931
Sep 28 12:43:31 <doko> ogra_, or fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libaio/+bug/607665
Sep 28 12:43:32 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 607665 in libaio "Invalid test case on ARM" [Medium,Confirmed]
Sep 28 12:43:53 <ogra_> doko, well, that doesnt kill the build
Sep 28 12:44:01 <ogra_> (here)
Sep 28 12:44:40 <doko> ogra_, with a precise kernel?
Sep 28 12:44:55 <ogra_> 3.2.0
Sep 28 12:45:04 <ogra_> we dont have any recent kernel for mx6
Sep 28 12:45:19 <ogra_> (or better: more recent)
Sep 28 12:45:44 <ogra_> thats all quantal
Sep 28 12:46:24 <doko> ok
Sep 28 12:46:37 <ogra_> the failed tests doesnt stop the build for me
Sep 28 12:47:07 <ogra_> and in fact that bit scrolls really fast ... it takes like 10 min for the tests before and after
Sep 28 12:47:43 <ogra_> and i think thats where the buildd is falling over ...
Sep 28 12:49:34 <bizulk> I added to the tidspbridge bug the config file, and particular option in comments
Sep 28 12:50:07 <ogra_> great, thanks :)
Sep 28 13:02:54 <bizulk> I bug is now in triaged state and used the apport-collect tool. Nothing more is needed from me for now ?
Sep 28 13:03:37 <ogra_> yeah, should be fine
Sep 28 13:32:03 <janimo> doko, libaio seems to build for me on ac100/quantal
Sep 28 13:32:16 <janimo> no build logs from the crashing machines?
Sep 28 13:32:35 <ogra_> janimo, apparently not
Sep 28 13:32:47 <janimo> I wonder if it's a kernel issue
Sep 28 13:32:48 <doko> no. I could give it back, and you could poll the build log while the build is running ...
Sep 28 13:32:50 <ogra_> just waiting for my quantal panda to finish
Sep 28 13:33:11 <ogra_> looks pretty good yet
Sep 28 13:33:13 <janimo> although I am suspecting something weird. my build took a few imnutes
Sep 28 13:33:29 <janimo> whereas LP shows 8 hours for previous builds
Sep 28 13:33:29 <ogra_> janimo, the build or the tests ?
Sep 28 13:33:53 <janimo> debuild -us uc
Sep 28 13:33:54 <janimo> -uc
Sep 28 13:33:57 <ogra_> my build (even on a panda with a really slow USB key) is done in under a minute
Sep 28 13:34:17 <ogra_> oh, i just use dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b
Sep 28 13:34:25 <ogra_> in the souorce tree
Sep 28 13:34:39 <ogra_> the tests take between 10 and 30min though
Sep 28 13:35:01 <janimo> I wonder why this is 8 hours then? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libaio/0.3.109-2ubuntu1/+build/2964075
Sep 28 13:35:10 <janimo> maybe some tests fail early and do not proceed here
Sep 28 13:35:55 <ogra_> might be
Sep 28 13:36:33 <ogra_> in any case failing tests dont seem to stop the build anyway
Sep 28 13:36:43 <ogra_> even the precise log has the failures
Sep 28 13:36:44 <janimo> indeed
Sep 28 13:37:06 <ogra_> so i bet we could as well disable them :)
Sep 28 13:37:23 <ogra_> dh_testdir
Sep 28 13:37:23 <ogra_> /usr/bin/make
Sep 28 13:37:23 <ogra_> /bin/sh: 1: git: not found
Sep 28 13:37:23 <ogra_> /bin/sh: 1: lsdiff: not found
Sep 28 13:37:23 <ogra_> make[1]: git: Command not found
Sep 28 13:37:38 <ogra_> heh
Sep 28 13:37:38 <janimo> on LP/armhf I think the timeout of 8 hours or something similar kicked in. Or just some obscure bug. The build+tests are short
Sep 28 13:37:38 <janimo> ogra_, yes, it just checks whether it's in a git repo
Sep 28 13:37:41 <ogra_> seems that log doesnt care at all if *anything* fails
Sep 28 13:37:49 <janimo> can be ignored, it took just as little time with git installed
Sep 28 13:37:56 <ogra_> k
Sep 28 13:38:24 <janimo> so maybe a lucid kernel or whatver the builders have is the issue
Sep 28 13:38:40 <ogra_> precise
Sep 28 13:38:45 <ogra_> but yeah, very likely
Sep 28 13:40:20 <ogra_> the precise panda kernel wasnt particulary great
Sep 28 13:40:29 <ogra_> (dieing on idle etc)
Sep 28 13:41:13 <ogra_> wow, that 14.p test takes a century
Sep 28 13:50:13 * ppisati goes out to run an errand, brb
Sep 28 13:50:17 <ogra_> hmm, whatever that test does, it hits the disk realyl hard it seems
Sep 28 13:51:39 <ogra_> was probably not a good idea ro try that build on my slowest USB key
Sep 28 13:51:47 <ogra_> *to
Sep 28 14:01:42 <ogra_> heh, so my panda has a load of 5 and the test eats up all memory
Sep 28 14:02:33 <ogra_> i can imagine that might fail with anot 100% correct kernel
Sep 28 14:02:34 <ogra_> *a not
Sep 28 14:13:47 <ogra_> doko, libaio just finished on my quantal panda (fresh desktop install from wed.)
Sep 28 14:14:08 <ogra_> so i would say its clearly the buildd kernel
Sep 28 14:14:19 <doko> please leave a comment in the bug report
Sep 28 14:14:24 <ogra_> will do
Sep 28 14:18:09 <ogra_> done and buildlog attached for that one as well
Sep 28 14:18:33 <bizulk> I have installed the xorg omapfb driver but Xorg doesn't seem to use it : sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-omap3
Sep 28 14:18:52 <ogra_> you might need an oxrg.conf, not sure
Sep 28 14:19:04 <ogra_> that package comes from debian as is
Sep 28 14:19:13 <bizulk> xvinfo --display :0.0: still returns 'no adaptors present
Sep 28 14:20:24 <bizulk> Where shalll be this file ? I don't remember
Sep 28 14:20:54 <ogra_> in /etc/X11
Sep 28 14:21:15 <ogra_> ubuntu doesnt use that file anymore by default so you might need to create it
Sep 28 14:21:15 <bizulk> ogra_: I'll check it
Sep 28 14:21:15 <ogra_> probably the package ships an example
Sep 28 14:22:23 <bizulk> no it has not :(
Sep 28 14:25:04 <bizulk> well the wiki presume that the driver is automatically loaded but I could not figure how without a Xorg.conf file
Sep 28 14:26:00 <ogra_> check the log :)
Sep 28 14:26:36 <bizulk> I did
Sep 28 14:29:17 <ogra_> well, all i know about this package is that it has been removed in 12.10
Sep 28 14:35:49 <bizulk> why ? does it mean that the Xorg video driver is not anymore part of it ?
Sep 28 14:36:47 <ogra_> it is a hacked up xfbdev driver nobody maintains afaik
Sep 28 14:37:03 <ogra_> and isnt compatible to abi 13 anymore
Sep 28 14:39:04 <bizulk> Does Angstrom not use it (or won't) neither.
Sep 28 14:39:19 <ogra_> no idea
Sep 28 14:39:36 <ogra_> we dont do much with oma3 here anymore
Sep 28 14:39:37 <ogra_> *omap3
Sep 28 14:40:25 <ogra_> but once angstrom updates to the current xorg abi they will likely have to port it if they use it
Sep 28 14:41:42 <janimo> ogra_, although interestingly it builds on ac100 quantal which has a 3.1 kernel
Sep 28 14:42:16 <janimo> panda precise is 3.2 right?
Sep 28 14:42:17 <ogra_> janimo, well, the precise panda kernel has issues
Sep 28 14:42:27 <ogra_> we know it dies idling on some boards for example
Sep 28 14:42:28 <janimo> are there any non-panda builders left?
Sep 28 14:42:33 <ogra_> nope
Sep 28 14:42:45 <janimo> where are the slow crappy boards when you need them???
Sep 28 14:42:55 <ogra_> but i would just propose to backport the quantal kernel and be done
Sep 28 14:43:26 <ogra_> you could try on the porter box, i think that still runs a natty kernel
Sep 28 14:43:58 <janimo> ogra_, if you install the precise kernel in quantal it should fail if that is the cause right?
Sep 28 14:44:08 <janimo> I think the porter box has long been dead
Sep 28 14:44:08 <ogra_> yep
Sep 28 14:44:16 <ogra_> no, i heard its back
Sep 28 14:44:17 <janimo> at least I could not connect to scheat for a long time, so gave up
Sep 28 14:44:18 <ogra_> scheat
Sep 28 14:44:33 <janimo> ok, did not check in the past two months I guess
Sep 28 14:45:03 <ogra_> i didnt check at all, Daviey claimed its back on #ubuntu-devel
Sep 28 14:45:41 <ogra_> and i trust Daviey blindly :)
Sep 28 14:54:18 <bizulk> aie : it seems that Xorg didn't like my conf
Sep 28 15:53:02 <ogra_> janimo, linux-ac100 is in ... time for meta i guess
Sep 28 15:53:23 <janimo> yes, but should need at least a test first
Sep 28 15:53:26 <janimo> I'll install
Sep 28 15:53:41 * ogra_ cant ... else i break my screen
Sep 28 15:53:42 <janimo> and in as in past NEW?
Sep 28 15:54:01 <ogra_> well, cjwatson just said he processed it in #ubuntu-release
Sep 28 15:54:06 <janimo> ah ok
Sep 28 15:54:16 <ogra_> so past NEW i would think
Sep 28 15:56:42 <janimo> ogra_, uploaded
Sep 28 15:56:51 <ogra_> thx
Sep 28 15:57:51 <janimo> ogra_, are you planning the graphics driver upload for next week?
Sep 28 15:58:01 <ogra_> or the weekend, yeah
Sep 28 15:58:09 <ogra_> and if i manae in time also the codecs
Sep 28 15:58:21 * ogra_ has to rush to the vet now ... back in ~1h
Sep 28 16:06:43 <bizulk> hi ! boot.scr is a binary file ?
Sep 28 16:07:02 <bizulk> how do we edit that stuff ?
Sep 28 16:09:00 <bizulk> okay it's in the host with mkimage
Sep 28 16:09:27 <lilstevie> bizulk, you don't edit the boot.scr directly, you edit the boot.cmd and then make it into a boot.scr with mkimage
Sep 28 16:09:33 <GrueMaster> It is actually a text file with a 72 byte crc blob.
Sep 28 16:10:57 <GrueMaster> You can strip the first 72 bytes, then edit it as a text file (boot.script).  TO recreate the CRC (needed by u-boot), use "mkimage -A arm -O linux -T script -C none -d boot.script boot.scr".
Sep 28 16:11:43 <GrueMaster> (I used to have this documented on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM but it has since been either deleted or moved by others.
Sep 28 16:13:05 <bizulk> there is not other way to put off the splash screen ? well okay
Sep 28 16:15:32 <GrueMaster> Sadly, not easily.  You could interrupt uboot via serial console, but that is a pain.
Sep 28 16:18:39 <lilstevie> bizulk, the process may sound hard/scary but it is pretty straight forward
Sep 28 16:18:54 <lilstevie> (modifying the boot.scr)
Sep 28 16:20:03 <bizulk> lilstevie: first of all, new for me :) (but it was just for having debug message on screen/serial as the xorg omapfb bug the boot process)
Sep 28 16:20:04 <GrueMaster> The easiest way to strip the file for editing is with "dd if=boot.scr of=boot.script bs=72 skip=1".  Then you can edit it and use the above mkimage command to re-bless it.
Sep 28 16:20:44 <bizulk> GrueMaster: how do you strip the bytes ? dd ?
Sep 28 16:21:08 <lilstevie> bizulk, GrueMaster gave you the command there :)
Sep 28 16:21:24 <GrueMaster> Yes.  YOu can also do it with a text editor, but it isn't as clean.
Sep 28 16:21:57 * GrueMaster notices shift key is sticking again and grumbles profusely.
Sep 28 16:24:44 <bizulk> ho ! sorry I did not see the cmd just below
Sep 28 16:25:42 <bizulk> I see that uEnv.txt is still supported
Sep 28 16:30:37 <bizulk> I have strip off quiet and splash, but I've just got a black screen with a penguin :d
Sep 28 16:34:41 <bizulk> the xorg omapfb driver seems to be loaded but I do think I have to pass more option to activate DVUI output
Sep 28 16:35:13 <GrueMaster> If you want earlier kernel messages and boot messages to go to the serial console, add "earlyprintk=ttyO2,115200 console=ttyO2,115200 console=tty1"
Sep 28 16:35:22 <bizulk> ho yessss
Sep 28 16:35:54 <bizulk> I did put the console in bootargs without results
Sep 28 16:59:06 <bizulk> is "xf86-video-omapfb" an alternative to omapfb ?
Sep 28 17:14:09 <marvin24> janimo: I'm trying to compile your kernel - do you know how to enable ccache in kernel builds?
Sep 28 17:14:42 <janimo> marvin24, cross compiling?
Sep 28 17:15:03 <marvin24> yes
Sep 28 17:15:35 <marvin24> there must be some magic string added to debuild
Sep 28 17:15:56 <janimo> ah, I do not use that. Ijust have /usr/lib/ccache/arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc -> ../../bin/ccache as symlink
Sep 28 17:16:13 <janimo> so it is systemwide not specific to kernel builds
Sep 28 17:16:55 <janimo> and I never checked that it actually works :) The builds seem fast though
Sep 28 17:17:14 <marvin24> yes, the problem is it doesn't
Sep 28 17:17:32 <marvin24> but the man page says use --prepend-path
Sep 28 17:17:40 <marvin24> lets try it
Sep 28 17:19:28 <marvin24> no luck :-(
Sep 28 17:19:44 <janimo> no luck as in nothing is put in ~/.ccache?
Sep 28 17:19:48 * janimo checks
Sep 28 17:21:14 <marvin24> yes
Sep 28 17:21:30 <marvin24> neither symlink nor --prepend-path works
Sep 28 23:35:49 <xnox> installing armhf
Sep 28 23:36:04 <xnox> had to do a tty1->tty7 dance to view X
Sep 28 23:36:18 <xnox> maybe i was impatient for ubiquity to come up though.
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