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Oct 18 03:03:46 <mjrosenb> evening all, do you guys provide the oprofile kernel module?
Oct 18 08:42:01 <XavB> fabo: one more question - it is still not clear to me how the "boot partition" is handled. On my side I used to have a tmp /dev/loop device that I was referencing in /etc/flash-kernel.conf like this, flash-kernel is happy (only point is that you need to set --machine)
Oct 18 08:43:00 <XavB> With lb implementation I don't really get where I can find boot partition data.
Oct 18 08:49:13 <fabo> XavB: it doesn't provide it. lb produces a rootfs. we use linaro-image-tools to flash on sdcard.
Oct 18 08:50:12 <fabo> thus l-i-t has the partitioning magic
Oct 18 08:51:48 <XavB> fabo: ok, the the linaro-image-tools do all the magic for boot partition, I get the point. I think I will add "my" magic to have boot partition generated also, I will share that with you if it works fyi.
Oct 18 08:52:17 <fabo> XavB: behind the scene, we use parted/sfdisk
Oct 18 08:52:36 <fabo> XavB: more details in linaro_image_tools/media_create/partitions.py
Oct 18 09:03:26 <ppisati> ogra_: did you write somewhere your incantation to get beagle/qemu work?
Oct 18 10:07:08 <ogra_> ppisati, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286640/
Oct 18 10:07:39 <ogra_> ppisati, --boot should be i.e. a server image ... --root just an img fiel you created with dd as the target USB disk
Oct 18 10:07:43 <ogra_> *file
Oct 18 11:11:37 <ping__> help
Oct 18 11:11:43 <ping__> how to install ubuntu on android
Oct 18 11:12:50 <LetoThe2nd> ping__: if you have to ask: not at all, it is not possible ;)
Oct 18 11:13:33 <ping__> ohh no bad day :(
Oct 18 11:14:18 <LetoThe2nd> ping__: you just cannot "install" an OS "on" another OS.
Oct 18 11:15:33 <ping__> LetoThe2nd, I failed to install arm-ArchLinux, can you help me
Oct 18 11:15:50 <ping__> i cant connect with vnc server
Oct 18 11:15:55 <LetoThe2nd> ping__: i personally can not.
Oct 18 11:16:22 <ping__> LetoThe2nd, ok no problem
Oct 18 11:16:34 <LetoThe2nd> ping__: ask precisely, say what hardware you use, what you did, what does not work, include any seen error messages. if someone knows, he will tell you.
Oct 18 11:16:48 <LetoThe2nd> ping__: but if it has nothing to do with ubuntu, you are a bit wrong here.
Oct 18 11:18:32 <ping__> yes, i use this tutorial http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1361, through, but i can't start on display
Oct 18 11:19:14 <LetoThe2nd> ... no ubuntu.
Oct 18 11:19:26 <ping__> vnc error connection failed, faile to connect localhost/127.0.0.1 port 5900
Oct 18 11:19:36 <ping__> yes, arm-archlinux
Oct 18 11:22:40 <lilstevie> ugh chroots
Oct 18 11:22:47 <lilstevie> unsupported configurations
Oct 18 11:23:23 <lilstevie> also ping__ as LetoThe2nd pointed out, that is not about ubuntu, and this channel is for ubuntu
Oct 18 11:23:28 <ping__> lilstevie, so how to fix
Oct 18 11:23:41 <ping__> lilstevie, can u help my ?
Oct 18 11:23:55 <ping__> so sorry, i use ubuntu to
Oct 18 11:24:14 <ping__> i download it http://nchc.dl.sourceforge.net/project/linuxonandroid/Ubuntu/12.04/small/ubuntu1204-v4-small.zip
Oct 18 11:24:16 <lilstevie> ping__, no I cannot help you, 1) that is an unsupported configuration, 2) this is #ubuntu-arm not #archlinux
Oct 18 11:24:32 <ping__> but not finish :)
Oct 18 11:24:42 <lilstevie> chroots are horribly problematic in any case
Oct 18 11:24:43 <ping__> i download ubuntu 12.04 small
Oct 18 11:42:36 <XorA> there is an app for installing ubuntu on android, its the easiest way :-D
Oct 18 11:42:55 <XorA> couple of screen presseses and a long wait for download and its done
Oct 18 11:50:29 <st3fan> where do i file a bug about my pandaboard hanging on ubuntu 12.10?
Oct 18 11:50:40 <st3fan> i have some kernel output that i can share
Oct 18 11:50:42 <ogra_> on launchpad
Oct 18 11:50:59 <ogra_> against the linux-ti-omap4 package
Oct 18 11:51:06 <st3fan> got it
Oct 18 12:02:59 <st3fan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/1068079
Oct 18 12:03:00 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1068079 in linux-ti-omap4 "System hangs on PandaBoard ES" [Undecided,New]
Oct 18 12:10:51 <ppisati> ogra_: cool
Oct 18 12:11:01 <ppisati> ogra_: but you should really add that $somewhere
Oct 18 12:11:13 <ogra_> yeah,  i will
Oct 18 12:11:30 <ogra_> there is always something more important ... you know how that is
Oct 18 12:24:05 <ppisati> ogra_: yeah
Oct 18 15:01:43 <mjrosenb> morning, all
Oct 18 15:01:53 <mjrosenb> I asked last night, but didn't get a response
Oct 18 15:04:21 <mjrosenb> does 11.10 come with an oprofile kernel module?
Oct 18 16:11:15 <LetoThe2nd> is there a recommended way to give a pandaboard running ubuntu a static mac adress?
Oct 18 16:12:37 <GrueMaster> LetoThe2nd: It should already have a static mac that gets generated by the die id on the processor.
Oct 18 16:13:02 <GrueMaster> Unfortunately, you can't change it though.
Oct 18 16:13:15 <LetoThe2nd> GrueMaster: ah yes? must be one of the newer features then.
Oct 18 16:13:34 <GrueMaster> Newer since Natty.
Oct 18 16:13:56 <GrueMaster> iirc
Oct 18 16:14:07 <mjrosenb> do I need to build kernel modules myself in order to get oprofil.ko?
Oct 18 16:15:29 <LetoThe2nd> that certainly counts as newer for me.
Oct 18 16:18:03 <GrueMaster> mjrosenb: Which kernel, which system, which release?
Oct 18 17:06:09 <ojn> So, since i've already mentioned it on #linaro and #armlinux: We've just announced the first ARM based Chromebooks today. Dual Cortex-A15, 2GB ram, 16GB eMMC. 11.6" screen. Sticking a regular u-boot on there isn't hard, so it should be a nice little ARM native-development system.
Oct 18 17:07:36 <GrueMaster> ojn: LINKS.  We need Links!
Oct 18 17:07:49 <ojn> https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/samsung-chromebook.html#specs
Oct 18 17:07:52 <ojn> $249, btw.
Oct 18 17:08:09 <GrueMaster> Sweet!
Oct 18 17:08:40 <ojn> We have practically no code upstream for it yet though. Base drivers are there, contributed by samsung. But we intend to get most of the rest up for 3.8.
Oct 18 17:11:32 <GrueMaster> So, possibly support for Ubuntu 13.04 (Rabbid Ringworm - or whatever they are calling it).
Oct 18 17:14:00 <st3fan> happy hippo
Oct 18 17:14:18 <st3fan> what happens after Zomething Zomething ?
Oct 18 17:14:24 <GrueMaster> Hmm.  Missing a few key components from the specs.  Ram?  Local Storage?
Oct 18 17:14:25 <phh> ojn: <3
Oct 18 17:14:38 <ojn> GrueMaster, 2GB ram, 16GB eMMC
Oct 18 17:14:52 <GrueMaster> Oh, missed the above post.  Should be on the web though.
Oct 18 17:15:01 <phh> 6.5hours ?  baah
Oct 18 17:15:04 <phh> 3cells i'm assuming ?
Oct 18 17:15:12 <GrueMaster> Looks great.  Much better than the AC100.
Oct 18 17:15:30 <ojn> Much MUCH faster than the ac100, yes.
Oct 18 17:15:33 <phh> AC100 is 2 years old
Oct 18 17:19:18 <phh> ojn: meeeeeeh, only UK/US :(
Oct 18 17:19:59 <ojn> phh: amazon.co.uk will ship to all of europe, I think
Oct 18 17:20:28 <GrueMaster> Don't feel bad.  AC100 was never available in the US.
Oct 18 17:21:01 <phh> :D
Oct 18 17:21:06 <GrueMaster> It was a good idea, but bad hw design choices (512M memory???).
Oct 18 17:21:52 <ojn> horrible keyboard and trackpad too
Oct 18 17:22:00 <phh> i got used to the keyboard
Oct 18 17:22:00 <rsalveti> ojn: quite nice device, need to lobby that at linaro to get some ;-)
Oct 18 17:22:04 <ojn> i have one, but had zero reason to get active on using it, it's just too crummy.
Oct 18 17:22:26 <ojn> rsalveti, the price is right for it. :-)
Oct 18 17:22:34 <rsalveti> yeah
Oct 18 17:22:51 <rsalveti> ojn: I suppose all the gpl code is already public?
Oct 18 17:23:07 <ojn> rsalveti, yeah, git.chromium.org (kernel.git, chromeos-3.4 branch)
Oct 18 17:23:16 <rsalveti> awesome
Oct 18 17:23:17 * ogra_ hugs ojn 
Oct 18 17:23:19 <ogra_> congrats !
Oct 18 17:23:23 <ojn> we need to upstream a bunch of it, will do that over the next quarter.
Oct 18 17:23:24 <phh> ojn: pfff it's missing lots of specs ...
Oct 18 17:23:33 <ojn> rsalveti, of course, mali drivers aren't gpl
Oct 18 17:23:33 <phh> like screen resolution (i'm assuming ~ 720p)
Oct 18 17:23:35 <phh> soc
Oct 18 17:23:40 <ojn> phh: 1366x768
Oct 18 17:23:44 <rsalveti> ojn: yeah, but that's expected :-)
Oct 18 17:23:49 <phh> (exynos 5 serie ?)
Oct 18 17:24:03 <ojn> phh: search the web a little and there are whole lot of news articles coming out over the next hour or so, with specs
Oct 18 17:24:11 <ojn> yes, Exynos5250, dual Cortex-A15.
Oct 18 17:24:21 <ojn> Mali T604 graphics
Oct 18 17:25:19 <rsalveti> ojn: using x11 still?
Oct 18 17:25:36 <phh> ojn: locked bootloader ?
Oct 18 17:25:50 <phh> ojn: not available on amazon.co.uk
Oct 18 17:26:18 <phh> ojn: avaibility is planned to expand ?
Oct 18 17:26:23 <ojn> phh: they will be on ssale starting next week or so
Oct 18 17:26:32 <ojn> rsalveti, yes, X.
Oct 18 17:26:46 <ojn> phh: it's relatively easy to remove the firmware write-protect and put a regular u-boot on it
Oct 18 17:26:57 <rsalveti> ok, then it should be easy to get ubuntu on it ;-)
Oct 18 17:26:57 <GrueMaster> phh: Preorders will be available starting 12am PST (according to the link I just clicked).
Oct 18 17:27:02 <ojn> rsalveti, yeah
Oct 18 17:27:31 <GrueMaster> Erm, 12pm PST.  My bad.
Oct 18 17:27:38 <phh> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/samsung-series-3-xe303c12-wifi-chromebook-silver-19273050-pdt.html VS http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/samsung-series-3-xe303c12-11-6-chromebook-silver-19273052-pdt.html
Oct 18 17:27:40 <phh> difference is 3G ?
Oct 18 17:28:04 <phh> anyway, sounds lovely
Oct 18 17:28:50 <ojn> phh: no idea what the difference is
Oct 18 17:28:59 * GrueMaster wipes the drool of his shoes.
Oct 18 17:29:26 <phh> ojn: there are different models available ?
Oct 18 17:30:43 <ojn> phh: not sure, i don't know what pcworld is doing
Oct 18 17:31:12 <phh> ok
Oct 18 17:31:17 <phh> ojn: no answer on locked bootloader ... ?
Oct 18 17:31:37 <phh> oh you said it's easy to stick regular uboot
Oct 18 17:31:39 <phh> ok
Oct 18 17:34:42 <phh> pff i saved money for the lg nexus optimus, and now you're releasing that, that's unfair :p
Oct 18 19:24:34 <mjrosenb> GrueMaster: sorry, was out running errands, ubuntu-11.10, pandaboard-es
Oct 18 19:24:57 <mjrosenb> Linux panda 3.1.0-1282-omap4 #11-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 13 15:38:55 UTC 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
Oct 18 20:02:25 <mjrosenb> GrueMaster: afk for a bit, i'll still be getting everything.
Oct 18 21:49:58 <mjrosenb> ojn: just read more scrollback, sweet!
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