**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 29 02:59:59 2012 Nov 29 05:21:07 Hey guys, i just successfully recompiled the kernel on Ubuntu for the Nexus7, but am not sure exactly how to install it properly? Nov 29 05:21:18 is it just make install? Nov 29 05:55:17 Can anyone teach me how to update a kernel on nexus7? we built a new kernel but make install doesn't seem to make it actually install Nov 29 05:57:20 http://www.mattfischer.com/blog/?p=285 Nov 29 08:00:05 good morning Nov 29 09:21:39 xnox, i would love to put all of these wikipages to death, i was actually waiting with deleting them because there was supposed to be a live-build howto from linaro one day for making a rootfs ... as a replacement to point to (ubuntu-core isnt really an alternative at all to what the tools from the wiki do) Nov 29 09:21:59 that howto still doesnt exist though Nov 29 09:23:10 ogra_: so arm debootstrap is still not what one wants? Nov 29 09:23:36 no Nov 29 09:23:55 look at rootstock, it did the complete configuration on top Nov 29 09:24:57 for a plain development chroot or for running a vm ubuntu-core is great, for using it as a rootfs as non experienced linux user it isnt Nov 29 09:25:10 i see. Nov 29 09:25:40 the real bug report was that it was not easy to find $ mk-sbuild --arch armhf Nov 29 09:25:53 the purpose of the tools was a completely preconfigured rootfs, completely independend from the HW Nov 29 09:26:04 and that rootstock has higher google ranking Nov 29 09:26:42 so somewhere "compiling ubuntu packages for armhf" should be documented better. Nov 29 09:26:58 (admittedly rootstock is full of hacks i woul implement it completely different today ... (live-build in LXC using proper preseeding to do the config) Nov 29 09:27:35 well, that documentation should be somewhere in the general "compiling stuff" wiki section i think Nov 29 09:28:08 or "building packages" Nov 29 09:28:30 ogra_: live-build can be fed starter tarballs, the right answer is probably a quick 3-line howto that says "call live-build this way and feed it ubuntu-core.tar.gz as the starter". Nov 29 09:29:05 Or, rather, s/live-build/linaro-media-create/ perhaps. My brain's a bit fried. Nov 29 09:29:16 Or potentially either could do what rootstock does. Nov 29 09:29:18 Meh. Nov 29 09:29:22 right Nov 29 09:29:25 Anything but rootstock. Down with rootstock. Rawr! Nov 29 09:29:36 I should nap. Nov 29 09:29:41 well, vanhoof keeps it alive Nov 29 09:29:41 I'm obviously losing it. Nov 29 09:30:03 I was about to type "vanhoof: stop that", but he's not in the channel. Nov 29 09:30:04 * xnox ponders if I should troll on /j #linaro /msg #linaro I am using rootstock and it fails to create a rootfs for me. Please help! Nov 29 09:30:09 hehe Nov 29 09:32:10 ;D Nov 29 09:43:47 lol Nov 29 11:24:09 Decided on a Nexus 7 (with data) despite the quoted "1-2 week until shipping", and it looks like it should arrive today (i.e. a day later) Nov 29 11:24:13 that's quite impressive Nov 29 11:24:15 imo Nov 29 11:25:05 or alternative, very unimpressive. Their webshop doesn't seem to have much to do with reality :P Nov 29 11:25:32 :p Nov 29 12:21:05 hi, is there a way to force a custom edid value for a pandaboard running ubuntu Nov 29 12:21:16 i have a screen problem at max resolutions it flickers and is blurry Nov 29 12:23:02 i dont think there is, wait for robclark to get up :) Nov 29 12:24:08 bummer Nov 29 13:34:32 unity still functions but with glitched graphics, how do I reset on nexus 7? Nov 29 13:35:05 you cant, its a bug in the widget library unity uses Nov 29 13:35:36 damn Nov 29 13:35:41 we're waiting for a fix in 13.04 ... Nov 29 13:36:11 so no apt-get --reinstall fix? Nov 29 13:36:28 12.10 has the fix in the preinstalled image but not in the archive (which is why you should never upgrade that image as scattered everywhere across the docs) Nov 29 13:37:47 lol woops Nov 29 13:38:12 only followed the install guide ;p Nov 29 13:39:07 me500, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/FAQ#Why_are_-updates_and_-proposed_disabled.3F ;) Nov 29 13:39:32 dholbach, when was the nexus FAQ switched to askubuntu ? Nov 29 13:39:57 the five questions there give quite a poor impression compared to the wiki FAQ Nov 29 13:41:11 i can reinstall with the tool though right? Nov 29 13:41:17 sure Nov 29 13:42:20 goooood Nov 29 13:42:34 (you could surely try to fix it and probably even succeed, but i guess a reinstall would only eat 10% of the time ;) ) Nov 29 13:55:47 ogra_, no idea - cwayne should know Nov 29 13:56:19 k, i'll ask him then Nov 29 13:57:31 Bundzi, there was some mechanism added to load an edid value from a firmware file specified in a bootarg.. don't remember quite off the top of my head which kernel version that landed in, but I guess you should be able to find it with a bit of google searching.. Nov 29 14:39:30 http://shop.intrinsyc.com/products/dragonboard-mobile-kit Nov 29 14:40:14 "Its Split design offers a SO-DIMM form factor SOM [....] , Education Connector, JTAG & a 2nd Display port." Nov 29 14:40:37 what the hell is an "Education Connector" ? Nov 29 14:46:01 wow :D Nov 29 14:46:10 gpio pins maybe..? Nov 29 14:46:29 nah, they are listed separately Nov 29 14:55:59 ogra-cb, http://mydragonboard.org/apq8060a/ refers to it as GPIO/Education connector - so Tassadar was right Nov 29 14:56:17 just bad description on the intrinsync shop Nov 29 14:57:47 heh, yeah Nov 29 16:11:22 ogra_: planning to buy.get dragonboard? Nov 29 16:30:41 hrw, heh, surely not Nov 29 16:37:56 ogra_: ping me in two weeks and I will tell you what is in 'education' connector Nov 29 16:38:21 * ogra_ imagines a brain funnel for shredded books Nov 29 16:42:48 I got 100% price discount Nov 29 16:43:34 brb Nov 29 16:43:59 geez, just 100% ? make them give you 200 ! Nov 29 16:44:03 :) Nov 29 16:49:46 xnox, hmm, intresting, the recent image has the new ubiquity but also metacity-common and libmetacity-private0a ... not metacity itself though Nov 29 16:50:31 lol. interesting. I will investigate madison. Nov 29 16:50:40 ogra_: do you have java-gnome installed? Nov 29 16:51:07 nope, no java at all Nov 29 16:51:35 gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-3.0 and libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 are the only matches for java in the manifest Nov 29 16:51:50 hmm, i wonder why every build seems to grow in size Nov 29 16:52:23 todays build is 4M bigger Nov 29 17:07:33 ogra: once we have the raring image and the nux fix - will we tell people to upgrade or reflash? Nov 29 17:07:44 ogra_, sorry - picked the wrong *ogra* Nov 29 17:08:17 heh Nov 29 17:08:31 all of they are highlighted in all my xchats, no worries :) Nov 29 17:08:36 *them Nov 29 17:08:40 (tsk) Nov 29 17:08:52 dholbach, both should work (theoretically) Nov 29 17:09:01 ogra_, what will we recommend? Nov 29 17:09:29 i think we should recommend re-flashing so people get a personalized device Nov 29 17:09:34 ok Nov 29 17:10:19 dholbach: i updated the wiki last night with manual instructions to flash raring, you probably noticed by now. Nov 29 17:10:27 :) Nov 29 17:10:39 ah, so it has the nux fix already? Nov 29 17:10:51 dholbach: not yet Nov 29 17:10:57 dholbach: hopefully very soon Nov 29 17:11:06 gotcha Nov 29 17:11:25 you can pretty well play around with the raring image if you know your way around Nov 29 17:11:52 i.e. testing via ssh etc Nov 29 17:12:13 yea or use a usb/keyboard and ctrl-alt-T to open a terminal window Nov 29 17:12:23 works in onboard as well :) Nov 29 17:14:46 i might make a note on the wiki later today that the raring installer has a corrupt background and it's a known issue Nov 29 17:15:04 yeah, and that the slideshow is missing Nov 29 17:15:27 i dont really have the balls to put it back, we're so close to oversized Nov 29 17:15:42 ogra_: want me to file launchpad bugs as well? Nov 29 17:16:00 i think for the wallpaper there is a bug Nov 29 17:16:05 ahh ok Nov 29 17:16:10 * sfeole takes another look Nov 29 17:17:17 if you want to file one for the missing slideshow as a reminder, then assign it to me Nov 29 17:17:30 ack will do Nov 29 17:18:07 ogra_: your talking about the installer slideshow right? Nov 29 17:18:12 yep Nov 29 17:18:40 without it the actually process window gets very tiny ... Nov 29 17:18:46 and jumpy in size Nov 29 17:19:17 i think it will look just fine without it, once the background is fixed Nov 29 17:42:10 xnox, compiz/ubiquity works fine on the nexus Nov 29 17:42:39 i also get a proper black wallpaper instead of the corrupted crap i had before Nov 29 17:43:00 that the windows are immovable feels very weird though Nov 29 17:43:58 =) Nov 29 17:45:11 (and i had plymouth instead of staring at a "localhost.localdomain login:" prompt ) Nov 29 17:45:22 lots better Nov 29 17:45:53 * Laney looks forward to trying out the nexus7 images Nov 29 17:46:12 i'll wait for nux though ;-) Nov 29 17:47:48 grmbl Nov 29 17:48:00 why does the powerbutton still trigger a dialog Nov 29 18:28:09 ha, nice, support for kexec-hardboot got into official N7 Ubuntu kernel :) Nov 30 01:41:30 so anyone here using a nexus7 and built a kernel natively? I'm wondering why initrd.img is always so huge that it can't fit Nov 30 01:48:38 /c/c Nov 30 01:48:57 Probably because you have extra stuff on your system that makes the initrd bigger when its generated. Nov 30 01:52:23 TheMuso: not really familiar with how ubuntu knows what to put in the initrd so no clue how to trim it. any ideas? Nov 30 01:57:59 Zero_Chaos: Without knowing whats installed on your system, its hard to give specific advice. But you could check to see what packages are associated with the files in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks. Those scripts are responsible for helping create the initrd, and adding extra bits to the initrd image. Someone else may have a better idea though. Nov 30 01:58:24 TheMuso: that sir is exactly what I needed to know. thanks Nov 30 01:58:47 TheMuso: stupid device is charging right now (killed the wifi so can't ssh to it and charge at once) but soon, soon I'll play with that Nov 30 01:59:43 TheMuso: note to other, when recompiling the kernel it seems bcmdhd doesn't work so hot anymore. seems to be missing it's nvram file Nov 30 02:00:25 Zero_Chaos, you probably aren't using the correct config Nov 30 02:00:40 extract it from /proc/config.gz of the ubuntu kernel to compare Nov 30 02:02:20 lilstevie: I did. I change it to a module from builtin. Nov 30 02:02:32 lilstevie: ALWAYS start from a working kconfig ;-) Nov 30 02:03:59 forgive me I don't mean to accuse that was just some advice given :) point is the nvram file exists in lib/firmware so a new compile of the kernel will not change that Nov 30 02:05:33 lilstevie: yeah but it will cause failures if, for instance, the loader can't find the firmware when it's not builtin... which it was, and now isn't. Nov 30 02:06:07 lilstevie: and the caps was a stressing of a point not trying to show anger. Nov 30 02:06:40 Zero_Chaos, the firmware isn't built in Nov 30 02:08:23 lilstevie: it was definately for the 4329, I can't double check the bcmdhd right now due to the aforementioned power failure Nov 30 02:09:15 uh no, I can assure you the firmware does not get built in, and I do not know any bcm4329 devices that do either Nov 30 02:11:09 lilstevie: since I lack the ability to jump onto the device right now (it's not even in the same state as me) I'll smile and nod. but when my hands get home and plug it back into the network for me we can have it out ;-) Nov 30 02:11:49 Zero_Chaos, I maintain a kernel for the tf201, which is bcm4329 Nov 30 02:11:57 it is modular Nov 30 02:12:28 but even if it isn't, if the firmware is not at the specified location it will fail to load Nov 30 02:12:38 lilstevie: you we are working on completely different devices then? and the one I'm working on claims to have 6100 patches added to it... couldn't be any changes in there. Nov 30 02:13:47 Zero_Chaos, also, if the firmware was built into the kernel they would not need to distribute it in linux-firmware-nexus7 Nov 30 02:13:48 lilstevie: original kernel worked with wifi, I "zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/src/linux/.config && make && make modules_install && make install" then some dance to flash the kernel on the dev and the wifi no worky. only change before make was making wifi module Nov 30 02:14:07 Zero_Chaos, bcmdhd can be problematic when built as a module Nov 30 02:14:11 just fyi Nov 30 02:14:21 lilstevie: really... because it's working just so well over here. Nov 30 02:14:45 lilstevie: any ideas how to make it work? dmesg was crying about missing nvram something or another (should be able to get real text in ~20 min) Nov 30 02:14:56 can does not mean always Nov 30 02:15:29 lilstevie: it was sarcasm, it doesn't work at all Nov 30 02:15:39 :p Nov 30 02:15:54 bcmdhd doesn't work at all under ubuntu on the tf201 Nov 30 02:16:01 but works fine with android Nov 30 02:17:52 lilstevie: that's like saying bcmdhd doesn't work in gnome but works in kde. the only thing that affects the kernel wifi modules is the kernel. Nov 30 02:18:39 actually not the case Nov 30 02:19:03 there are those userspace libraries that differ between android and ubuntu Nov 30 02:20:39 lilstevie: and userspace libs affect the kernel wifi module how exactly? Nov 30 02:20:56 I give up Nov 30 02:20:58 seriously Nov 30 02:23:55 lilstevie: fine, leave me bored waiting for a device to hack on. :-) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 30 02:59:58 2012