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Dec 08 10:37:53 <wookey_> infinity: I see you fixed tcl crossing. What did you do about multiarching the tclconfig.sh path?
Dec 08 10:38:07 <infinity> wookey_: I didn't touch tcl, just tk.
Dec 08 10:38:11 <wookey_> Or did you just fix tcl bulding itself, not anything building against it?
Dec 08 10:38:32 <infinity> wookey_: Though, tk builds against tcl, so maybe someone already fixed the thing you're talking about.
Dec 08 10:38:41 <gurgalof> aww, I want to run 13.04 on the nexus, but I need Bluetooth...
Dec 08 10:39:01 <wookey_> OK. That would be good if true - I've beenwondering what to do about it for months :-)
Dec 08 10:39:30 <wookey_> I see you had a go at apr too - is there a bug for that? It was an abomination when we looked at it a couple of years back
Dec 08 10:39:54 <wookey_> somebody tried to add cross-support but did it in a completely broken way
Dec 08 10:40:02 <infinity> wookey_: I'm holding off on filing bugs (or committing directly) to apr/apr-util/apache2 until I'm happy with my "solutions" (and I use that term loosely).
Dec 08 10:40:37 <infinity> wookey_: apr and apache2 work in Ubuntu now (apr-util needs some twiddling with libraries it links to), but neither is pretty, so I'll likely revisit.
Dec 08 10:40:46 <wookey_> I have a really long mail for the apache people that we weren't allowed to send a couple of yrears back, asking what tey thought they were _trying_ to do
Dec 08 10:41:04 <wookey_> so we could work out how to fix it properly
Dec 08 10:41:24 <infinity> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/124947530/apr_1.4.6-3_1.4.6-3ubuntu1.diff.gz
Dec 08 10:41:36 <infinity> ^-- The ugly is just a bunch of autoconf cache preseeding.
Dec 08 10:41:43 <infinity> But there's got to be a less hideous way.
Dec 08 10:42:23 <infinity> As for apache2 itself, it's all fixed upstream, I just had to backport patches.
Dec 08 10:42:30 <wookey_> Ah cool
Dec 08 10:42:33 <infinity> (And fix debian/rules to be less retarded)
Dec 08 10:43:30 <infinity> So, I'll probably commit the apache2 stuff to Debian (or file a bug and make sf do it), but the apr/apr-utils things need some thought, I think.
Dec 08 10:43:38 <infinity> And, really, apache is useless without apr, so...
Dec 08 12:04:49 <raster> mooo
Dec 08 12:11:32 * Tassadar hides the gnomes
Dec 08 12:12:43 <raster> i'm not here to gorge on gnomes today
Dec 08 12:22:18 <raster> yargh
Dec 08 12:22:26 <raster> what is the magic to get sound out of this little beastie
Dec 08 12:24:50 <Tassadar> You mean n7?
Dec 08 12:28:21 <raster> yeah
Dec 08 12:28:28 <raster> i have gotten it to hiss at me
Dec 08 12:28:31 <raster> and thats about it
Dec 08 12:28:37 <raster> yes - i know - suspend and resume
Dec 08 12:28:40 <raster> doesnt do squat
Dec 08 12:31:09 <raster> i've been swizzling everythng randomly in alsamixer for a while to try see what low-level knob makes it work
Dec 08 13:22:29 <marvin24> nvidia just published tegra boot process description: ftp://download.nvidia.com/tegra-public-appnotes/tegra-boot-flow.html
Dec 08 13:22:42 <marvin24> (for those who didn't got it yet)
Dec 08 13:23:53 <raster> nv is getting better at this
Dec 08 13:24:12 <RaYmAn> sadly, it's not much use on most 'real' devices (given they are locked mostly down), but it's a nice move either way
Dec 08 13:26:03 <raster> not much nv can do there
Dec 08 13:26:07 <raster> thats oems
Dec 08 13:26:17 <RaYmAn> indeed
Dec 08 13:26:29 * RaYmAn looks at google
Dec 08 13:26:45 <raster> i have a working nexus7
Dec 08 13:26:47 <raster> minus sound
Dec 08 13:26:57 <raster> i cant divine how to make it peep
Dec 08 13:28:16 <RaYmAn> raster: it's just a pity e.g. google makes the n7 unlockable and then locks down the bootloader still. :/
Dec 08 13:29:00 <raster> well to some extent thats to avoid bricking
Dec 08 13:29:32 <raster> oems are paranoid about having hoards of users send in bricked devices under warranty
Dec 08 13:29:32 <RaYmAn> tegra is unbrickable if you have access to APX mode (e.g. tegrarcm)
Dec 08 13:29:36 <marvin24> well, there is still the rom bootloader, which cannot be bricked by nature
Dec 08 13:30:07 <marvin24> on the other hand, who cares if the locked bl can load an unlocked one?
Dec 08 13:30:14 <raster> if a user cant boot it to a state of a ui withotu some cruptic pc tools
Dec 08 13:30:15 <raster> then its a brick
Dec 08 13:30:20 <raster> form an oem pov
Dec 08 13:30:32 <raster> fastboot is not an answer in their eyes
Dec 08 13:30:34 <marvin24> write a simple tools then
Dec 08 13:30:49 <raster> it has to be unbrickable without tools
Dec 08 13:30:57 <raster> ie withotu needint to plug it into a pc and "use tools"
Dec 08 13:31:11 <raster> same with plugging in special mucro-sd cards with rescue images etc.
Dec 08 13:31:22 <RaYmAn> but how is that different from now? users could easily perceive it as bricked even if they have fastboot.
Dec 08 13:31:27 <RaYmAn> and that is possible now
Dec 08 13:32:00 <raster> dont they stil lock the bootloader down
Dec 08 13:32:05 <raster> but the rest u can play with as u like
Dec 08 13:32:09 <lilstevie> flash a non working kernel to both boot and recovery
Dec 08 13:32:09 <raster> so long as u use the bootloader to boot it
Dec 08 13:32:14 <raster> ala the ubuntu nexus77 images
Dec 08 13:32:19 <RaYmAn> lilstevie: isn't that fixed on n7?
Dec 08 13:32:26 <lilstevie> and it will be in the state you just called a brick
Dec 08 13:32:58 <lilstevie> RaYmAn, yeah, n7 also uses scratch rather than msc for bootloader messages
Dec 08 13:33:17 <RaYmAn> hm
Dec 08 13:33:22 <lilstevie> RaYmAn, but I am referring to "<raster> fastboot is not an answer in their eyes"
Dec 08 13:33:23 <RaYmAn> did you test if that works on tf201?
Dec 08 13:33:32 <lilstevie> RaYmAn, I did not
Dec 08 13:33:56 <lilstevie> RaYmAn, it is in the shutdown kernel code
Dec 08 13:33:58 <raster> lilstevie: i work for an oem
Dec 08 13:34:28 <raster> if ti requires anything more than absolute basic knowledge to fix
Dec 08 13:34:36 <lilstevie> raster, still doesn't change the fact, even unlocking a device will cause the definition you just called "brick"
Dec 08 13:34:48 <raster> (press a reset button for example) it's undesired and everything is done to avoid it
Dec 08 13:34:56 <raster> problem is a reset button is also aloiability in normal use
Dec 08 13:35:16 <raster> lilstevie: yes - its a risk google has pushed asus to do
Dec 08 13:35:36 <lilstevie> raster, that asus also offer on their entire tegra 3 range
Dec 08 13:35:42 <raster> prbably so google can use the n7 itself for hacking as well as allow others to do custom android roms and otherwise spread android around in general
Dec 08 13:36:47 <RaYmAn> raster: tbh, if oems wanted to get around that, it *should* be possible to hook up boot strap pins in such a way that it can boot a special (signed) image incl. bootloader from sdcard. Then a win app that writes the sdcard
Dec 08 13:37:31 <RaYmAn> also, they could just charge to fix bricks that could be fixed with e.g. nvflash if it was available
Dec 08 13:38:05 <raster> RaYmAn: you expect them to figure out all for a tiny percentage of their customerbase
Dec 08 13:38:19 <raster> when they can just continue with the old solution they have used for many years
Dec 08 13:41:18 <RaYmAn> nah, I've lost faith in them bothering to do such stuff long ago
Dec 08 13:41:32 <raster> so have most
Dec 08 13:41:33 <raster> :)
Dec 08 13:41:46 <RaYmAn> though, it would probably cut down on software repair costs =P
Dec 08 13:42:21 <RaYmAn> anyways, your argument was that e.g. nvflash was too complex for normal users (I disagree) - there's plenty of ways they could make it simpler
Dec 08 13:43:56 <raster> u are free to sit in meetings with some taiwanese, korea, etc. ppl and make your argument
Dec 08 13:43:57 <raster> :)
Dec 08 13:44:34 <RaYmAn> I don't expect an invitation any time soon
Dec 08 13:44:34 <RaYmAn> ;)
Dec 08 13:44:39 <raster> i've been there, done that... many times over the years :)
Dec 08 13:45:06 <raster> and i get the bonus of the "listen to me" badge onmy chest
Dec 08 13:45:12 <raster> even then its insanely hard
Dec 08 13:45:22 <lilstevie> although they may have to soon if the sony tool thing catches on
Dec 08 13:45:56 <raster> the things that make themj move.. is if someone else moves
Dec 08 13:46:06 <raster> and if it means market share gain, profits or somethnig
Dec 08 13:46:09 <raster> that gets attention
Dec 08 13:46:32 <RaYmAn> yeah, that's a pretty decent way of doing it - nice and semi-userfriendly tool that installs drivers and reflashes devices. It would be fairly easy for e.g. asus or google to do something similar with a custom nvflash for n7
Dec 08 13:51:18 <RaYmAn> raster: incidentally, it's amusing they spend so many resources on locking down things. You'd think it would be less resources to just make it open :)
Dec 08 13:51:19 <gurgalof_mobil> i flashed raring using the tool in ubuntu,  but i only get a 8GB partition on my 32GB nexus7
Dec 08 13:53:18 <raster> RaYmAn: the locking down has already been done and it was a product requirement from the product specs team to begin with
Dec 08 13:53:21 <raster> or something like that
Dec 08 13:55:47 <gurgalof_mobil> and i have a black bar under the notification bar in raring
Dec 08 13:57:30 <RaYmAn> raster: it's a choice e.g. google makes. Of course it has already been done, but it's still a choice they made
Dec 08 13:57:52 <RaYmAn> and then you have stuff like the arm chromebook which is completely open/unlockable.
Dec 08 13:58:00 <raster> a choice made by a product specs dept that doesnt knowq nor care about hackers/development
Dec 08 13:58:02 <raster> as they are not
Dec 08 13:58:14 <raster> they expect the o9nly development happens inside this engineering dept they have
Dec 08 13:58:17 <raster> and nowhere else
Dec 08 13:58:27 <RaYmAn> I somehow doubt google is that naive
Dec 08 13:58:29 <raster> people wanting to hack on their PRODUCTs is a bizarre foreign concept to them
Dec 08 13:58:44 <raster> raster: did i not mention oems above?
Dec 08 13:58:46 <raster> not google?
Dec 08 13:58:48 <raster> :)
Dec 08 13:59:45 <RaYmAn> google is essentially an oem too :)
Dec 08 13:59:55 <raster> well since they bougt moto - sure
Dec 08 14:00:03 <raster> tho within large companies its not so simple
Dec 08 14:00:11 <raster> its a lot of hops from left to right hand
Dec 08 14:00:12 <raster> :)
Dec 08 14:02:11 <gurgalof_mobil> is everyone sleeping?
Dec 08 14:06:11 <smartboyhw> gurgalof_mobil, NO
Dec 08 14:06:23 <gurgalof_mobil> :D
Dec 08 14:07:22 <gurgalof_mobil> feels like no one notices me, but ill ask again later...
Dec 08 14:07:57 <gurgalof_mobil> hmm i didnt even write a question, well well
Dec 08 14:11:58 <ogra_> gurgalof_mobil,  the current ikmmge only uses a 6G partition, we're working on getting it to work for bigger devices too, the broken panel shadow is known and reported as a bug already
Dec 08 14:12:07 <ogra_> *image
Dec 08 14:12:26 <gurgalof_mobil> okay,  thanks
Dec 08 14:13:40 <gurgalof_mobil> i'll revert to quantal for the moment then
Dec 08 14:14:40 <ogra_> raster, do you use pulse in youir setup ? iirc fixing the sound was a combo of alsa UCM profiles and pulse profile changes
Dec 08 14:14:46 <raster> yup
Dec 08 14:14:49 <raster> pulse is there
Dec 08 14:14:49 <gurgalof_mobil> oh and the slideshow in raring says 12.10
Dec 08 14:15:00 <infinity> gurgalof_mobil: It usually does for the first few months.
Dec 08 14:15:02 <raster> i use it on all y setups
Dec 08 14:15:04 <raster> hell
Dec 08 14:15:12 <raster> my mier eeven detects pulse and is happy
Dec 08 14:15:19 <infinity> gurgalof_mobil: It'll say 13.04 before release. :P
Dec 08 14:15:25 <ogra_> raster, also note that the master is muted by default ... only suspend/resume isnt enough
Dec 08 14:15:29 <raster> yup
Dec 08 14:15:30 <raster> i checked
Dec 08 14:15:31 <raster> :)
Dec 08 14:15:33 <gurgalof_mobil> :P hopefully
Dec 08 14:15:45 <raster> pulse is unmuted
Dec 08 14:15:53 <raster> rhythmobx doest play
Dec 08 14:15:59 <ogra_> hmmm, then i dont know
Dec 08 14:16:00 <raster> aplay doesnt play (bypassing pulse going right to alsa)
Dec 08 14:16:08 <ogra_> it works flawless under unity for me
Dec 08 14:16:40 <raster> weird
Dec 08 14:16:46 <ogra_> boot, suspend/resume, hit vol-up omce (easier than unmuting) always gets me sound
Dec 08 14:16:48 <raster> i didnt get to test audio until i had the rest settled
Dec 08 14:17:20 <infinity> ogra_: That's an odd definition of "flawless". ;)
Dec 08 14:17:39 <ogra_> heh
Dec 08 14:17:57 <ogra_> well, "as described" :)
Dec 08 14:18:15 <infinity> Thou shalt swing the mutilated chicken thrice above thine head, whilst chanting "ALSA, our lord, hear my prayers."
Dec 08 14:18:30 <ogra_> *giggle*
Dec 08 14:18:55 <raster> ogra_: yaaargh
Dec 08 14:19:10 <raster> any info as to.. what this magic pulse + alsa magic was?
Dec 08 14:19:26 <ogra_> ask diwic during the week
Dec 08 14:19:29 <raster> ok
Dec 08 14:19:35 <raster> either way
Dec 08 14:19:40 <raster> suspend/resume is all happy now
Dec 08 14:19:41 <ogra_> he is our sound guru and added the fixes
Dec 08 14:19:47 <raster> it was wifi simply not being shut off before suspend
Dec 08 14:19:54 <ogra_> ah
Dec 08 14:19:55 <raster> u have to rfkill it or it gens wake interrupts
Dec 08 14:19:55 <raster> :)
Dec 08 14:20:10 <raster> my screen is all nicely portraited now
Dec 08 14:20:13 <ogra_> yeah,, the pm-utils scripts care for that iirc
Dec 08 14:20:28 <ogra_> portrait with working input ?
Dec 08 14:20:30 <raster> i tried the 6.1-7 xorg thing and it fixes some of the funkiness of the touch when in portrait
Dec 08 14:20:37 <raster> yeah
Dec 08 14:20:40 <ogra_> oh, sweet
Dec 08 14:20:40 <gurgalof_mobil> in quantal BT stays on while suspending as moving bt-mouse unsuspends it
Dec 08 14:20:49 <raster> tho the pointer jumps around like its obsessed
Dec 08 14:20:51 <raster> inptu works tho
Dec 08 14:21:02 <ogra_> you have a pointer ?
Dec 08 14:21:21 <ogra_> unity/compiz hides it if there isnt an actual mouse
Dec 08 14:21:32 <ogra_> (that hides such issues)
Dec 08 14:21:59 <raster> yeah
Dec 08 14:22:01 <raster> i haveth one
Dec 08 14:22:19 <raster> i can hide it if i want
Dec 08 14:22:24 <raster> i just like seeing it
Dec 08 14:22:29 <raster> its kind alike a nice debug thing
Dec 08 14:22:30 <raster> :)
Dec 08 14:22:53 <raster> i'm down to 180m of mem usage
Dec 08 14:22:55 <ogra_> heh, yeah
Dec 08 14:23:02 <raster> for some reaosn my mystery missing ram... comes back after some time
Dec 08 14:23:21 <ogra_> i think there are some oddities with the kernel
Dec 08 14:23:25 <raster> definitely
Dec 08 14:23:33 <raster> like on boot - 420m ram gone
Dec 08 14:23:36 <raster> i compile a bunch of stuff
Dec 08 14:23:40 <raster> suspend/resume a few times
Dec 08 14:23:41 <ogra_> it also shows some strange load values that i cant really confirm
Dec 08 14:23:43 <raster> restart wm etc.
Dec 08 14:23:54 <raster> and it goes DOWN.. to about 150-200
Dec 08 14:24:01 <raster> oh yeah
Dec 08 14:24:05 <raster> and DONT use powertop
Dec 08 14:24:06 <gurgalof_mobil> WAT
Dec 08 14:24:20 <raster> it somehow turns off the cores
Dec 08 14:24:24 <raster> and makes u have only 1 core
Dec 08 14:24:31 <ogra_> file a bug !
Dec 08 14:24:42 <raster> everything nicely slows down to a crawl
Dec 08 14:24:43 <raster> :)
Dec 08 14:24:46 <ogra_> that should definitely be fixed
Dec 08 14:24:52 <raster> i'll kick arjan next i get the chance
Dec 08 14:24:58 <ogra_> great
Dec 08 14:25:02 <raster> :)
Dec 08 14:25:11 <raster> rightr now.. i dont know what it did
Dec 08 14:25:17 <lilstevie> you should confirm that is powertop that did it
Dec 08 14:25:17 <raster> i was compiling at the time
Dec 08 14:25:35 <raster> lilstevie: certain - i was runing htop at the time
Dec 08 14:25:37 <raster> and i rant it
Dec 08 14:25:41 <lilstevie> I've come across that exact issue as a kernel bug on the tf201
Dec 08 14:25:47 <raster> and then immediately everything jumpt to a single core
Dec 08 14:25:54 <raster> it has never happend otherwise
Dec 08 14:25:57 <raster> so far anyway
Dec 08 14:26:13 <lilstevie> raster, lather rinse repeat
Dec 08 14:26:31 <raster> busy lathering a lot of other things
Dec 08 14:26:32 <raster> :)
Dec 08 14:27:03 <lilstevie> I've never been able to trace the exact moment before, but I have never run powertop
Dec 08 14:27:40 <raster> they were too suspiciously timed together
Dec 08 14:27:44 <raster> i dont know if its pt's bug tho
Dec 08 14:27:54 <raster> it may simply innocently do something that happens to trigger the kernel bug
Dec 08 14:28:08 <raster> these things happen :) i'm rather used to them
Dec 08 14:33:26 <lilstevie> someone else should probably try the above on a n7, cause if it is the case, it is n7 specific and doesn't affect T3 in general
Dec 08 14:33:30 * lilstevie just tested
Dec 08 14:35:29 <raster> i only have the n7
Dec 08 14:35:35 <raster> so...  :)
Dec 08 14:37:03 <lilstevie> well then :p reproduce
Dec 08 14:38:43 <raster> \would love to
Dec 08 14:38:48 <raster> but i'm busy with.. other fun
Dec 08 14:38:55 <raster> like nixing backlight artifacts
Dec 08 15:22:42 <gurgalof> where do i find the 12.10 nexus7 image?
Dec 08 15:24:59 <gurgalof> or can i resize the partiton to 32GB? instead of 6?
Dec 08 15:25:52 <Tassadar> http://hwe.ubuntu.com/uds-r/nexus7/
Dec 08 15:27:26 <krawi> hi all
Dec 08 15:27:40 <krawi> can someone give me a hint for alsa playback on pandaboard with ubuntu 12.04 server?
Dec 08 15:27:57 <krawi> in syslog: OMAP ABE Media: asoc: OMAP ABE Media no valid playback route from source to sink
Dec 08 15:28:11 <krawi> in mplayer [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1293:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p' failed (-22): Invalid argument
Dec 08 15:28:20 <krawi> and nothing is played
Dec 08 16:04:24 <krawi> one step foward
Dec 08 16:04:30 <krawi> now it is: omap_hwmod: aess: _wait_target_disable failed
Dec 08 17:35:17 <krawi> got it
Dec 08 18:30:49 <gurgalof> can i resize the partition on my nexus7 with gparted?
Dec 08 18:39:36 <gurgalof> or is there some other way?
Dec 08 19:14:00 <gurgalof> why do we have swap enabled in 13.04 on nexus7?
Dec 08 19:16:25 <gurgalof> I think everyone is sleeping again...
Dec 09 00:16:42 <Ethernin> Hey guys, anyone played with multitouch stuff on Nexus 7 running ubuntu?
Dec 09 00:16:52 <Ethernin> when i search the repos for multitouch i find:
Dec 09 00:16:53 <Ethernin> xserver-xorg-input-mtrack - Multitouch X input driver
Dec 09 00:16:53 <Ethernin> xserver-xorg-input-multitouch - Multitouch X input driver
Dec 09 00:17:12 <Ethernin> also wondering if magick-rotation is worth the trouble?
Dec 09 00:17:16 <Ethernin> would be siiiiiiick
Dec 09 00:17:52 <Ethernin> I've got things running pretty darn well with XFCE4, but it would be nice to actually use the touch screen effeciently
Dec 09 00:18:28 <Ethernin> one of the problems is by default you can drag the windows around or maximize or close the windows via touchscreen....
Dec 09 00:18:45 <Ethernin> which is pretty lame considering it works so well in gnome-classic and lxde ect
Dec 09 00:21:53 <Ethernin> holla?
Dec 09 00:25:02 <Tassadar> don't worry, there are people still awake and coding, but as for me, I did not really tried multitouch on n7)
Dec 09 00:25:19 <Tassadar> *haven't...dammit 1AM
Dec 09 00:37:04 <Ethernin> lol
Dec 09 00:37:08 <Ethernin> right on thanks man
Dec 09 00:37:39 <Ethernin> Tassadar, it's usually 1am here and im the only one ranting!
Dec 09 00:37:40 <Ethernin> lol
Dec 09 00:38:07 <Ethernin> yeah i saw some sweet links of people using it, not on the Nexus7 but i thought id give it a try
Dec 09 00:38:23 <Ethernin> going to look up the system requirements to see if it's even doable
Dec 09 00:38:27 <Ethernin> but i figure it should be
Dec 09 00:38:47 <Tassadar> it must, on android it can handle up to 10 fingers
Dec 09 00:39:09 <Tassadar> or at least 10 fingers, because I don't have any more to test
Dec 09 00:39:53 <Ethernin> hahahaha
Dec 09 00:39:57 <Ethernin> totally
Dec 09 00:40:18 <Ethernin> i've been messing with a lot of different desktop environments trying to find one that's both stable and usable
Dec 09 00:40:40 <Ethernin> unity is just too damn slow, and i haven't been able to get unity2d to work
Dec 09 00:41:13 <lilstevie> Ethernin, there isn't really much point in those packages, evdev does multitouch, you just need a wm that supports it
Dec 09 00:41:22 <lilstevie> unity2d doesn't exist anymore
Dec 09 00:41:48 <Ethernin> i did however try, xfce4, lxde, and gnome-classic via fallback
Dec 09 00:41:51 <Ethernin> yeah no kidding
Dec 09 00:42:01 <Ethernin> not in raring that's for sure
Dec 09 00:42:07 <Zero_Chaos> evdev does multitouch? but how to enable it?
Dec 09 00:42:17 <Ethernin> evdev?
Dec 09 00:42:40 <Zero_Chaos> Ethernin: it's the main keyboard and mouse xorg driver
Dec 09 00:42:54 <lilstevie> Zero_Chaos, you don't need to enable it, it already tracks multiple fingers
Dec 09 00:43:05 <lilstevie> Zero_Chaos, you need a part of the windows manager to track
Dec 09 00:43:11 <Zero_Chaos> lilstevie: ahh
Dec 09 00:43:45 <Ethernin> lilstevie, awesome what part of the windows manager ?
Dec 09 00:44:07 <lilstevie> Zero_Chaos, or something like utouch-geis
Dec 09 00:44:17 <lilstevie> Ethernin, I'm not sure, I don't care enough
Dec 09 00:45:19 <Ethernin> lilstevie, sweet, ill look around
Dec 09 00:45:39 <Zero_Chaos> Ethernin: search for utouch and have fun.
Dec 09 00:45:44 <Zero_Chaos> Ethernin: I'm going to five guys
Dec 09 00:45:45 <Zero_Chaos> :-)
Dec 09 00:45:52 <Ethernin> hahaha nice Zero_Chaos
Dec 09 00:46:00 <Zero_Chaos> bbiaf
Dec 09 00:46:07 <Ethernin> Zero_Chaos, yeah going to take a break myself
Dec 09 00:46:13 <Ethernin> Zero_Chaos, ill be back in a bit
Dec 09 00:48:29 <Ethernin> ah yes, xserver-xorg-input-multitouch - Multitouch X input driver comes up
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