**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 14 02:59:59 2013 Jan 14 05:30:19 Hello Jan 14 06:11:28 Anyone arpund Jan 14 06:30:00 Need team mates Jan 14 07:28:35 can I install ubuntu for arm in an Android Smartphones like Motorola Defy+?? Jan 14 09:48:24 Hey guys, need some help patching a kernel Jan 14 10:10:43 Hello doko Jan 14 10:11:19 ogra_: do you have an overview which gstreamer components I need for an OMAP4 based device? I am currently trying to head into the state of upstream support for it but information in the various places is a bit confusing Jan 14 10:30:21 hello janimo Jan 14 10:58:53 RussellAlan, hello Jan 14 10:59:40 how is it going janimo Jan 14 11:01:09 RussellAlan, fine thanks. You pinged a while ago? Jan 14 11:01:35 was just saying hello =D Jan 14 11:03:48 RussellAlan, fair enough Jan 14 12:23:05 can someone upload https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/1061609 please. It's a trivial patch stopping util-linux from building for arm Jan 14 12:23:06 Launchpad bug 1061609 in util-linux (Ubuntu) "arm64/aarch64 support for util-linux" [Undecided,New] Jan 14 12:23:23 (arm64) Jan 14 12:24:09 morphis, nope, TI used maintain the gstreamer bits in their PPA, not sure what happens to this now that OMAP is dead Jan 14 12:37:26 wookey: maybe better ask on #ubuntu-devel Jan 14 12:38:32 wookey: please stop making patches to update config.guess|sub and always introduce dh_autoreconf helper. On one package already, I got lintian warning that config.guess|sub is too old from one of your "manual" updates =) Jan 14 12:38:49 wookey: I am happy to sponsor that, but I will change it to use dh_autoreconf Jan 14 12:39:58 wookey: also you should subscribe ubuntu-sponsors team instead of pinging people =) Jan 14 12:40:25 then your patch gets into the queue for sponsorship: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ Jan 14 13:05:16 and then you can hope that one day it will land Jan 14 13:05:59 hrw: /me is patch-piloting tomorrow and I tend to prefer build/cross-build fixes & core packages =) Jan 14 13:06:02 OMG!?!?! OMAP is dead?!?!?! Jan 14 13:06:47 xnox: for current dev there is always hope. sru == abandon any hope unless you have cve for it Jan 14 13:07:47 so whats this ubuntu arm bussiness? Jan 14 13:09:31 mint_: it's just a channel specific to armhf port of ubuntu (and armel in the past) Jan 14 13:10:25 is it going to be like a full linus OS, or more like an anroid thingy Jan 14 13:10:45 mint_: you ask about 'ubuntu phone' or 'ubuntu on arm'? Jan 14 13:11:02 isnt arm for the phone Jan 14 13:11:18 I saw x86 phone last week Jan 14 13:11:29 and mips phone month earlier Jan 14 13:11:40 mint_: no, #ubuntu-arm is for the whole ubuntu: dev boards, servers, desktops, netbooks. E.g. ac100, pandaboard, etc. Jan 14 13:11:54 mint_: you may want #ubuntu-phone Jan 14 13:11:59 oh my bad Jan 14 13:12:08 mint_: if you want to know about phone see #ubuntu-phone, for ubuntu on android (a separate project) #ubuntu-android, there is also Jan 14 13:12:22 #ubuntu-nexus for ubuntu core on nexus7 tablet. Jan 14 13:12:29 k ty Jan 14 13:29:55 ogra_: did something change in the image? I am not able to reproduce bug 1093050 with today's daily. Jan 14 13:29:55 Launchpad bug 1093050 in ubuntu-nexus7 "OnBoard doesn't work on text boxes during initial setup" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1093050 Jan 14 13:29:58 Or is it racy? Jan 14 13:30:15 * xnox goes to find the proper bug. Jan 14 13:37:02 <_DADDY> just asking about different option besides unity, everytime i try to get a gnome shell going, unity bugs it, do i have to completely remove unity first? Jan 14 13:52:00 speaking of sponsoring and stuff like that, who would be the best person to talk to in regards to getting a kernel sponsored and in universe Jan 14 13:56:01 xnox, i think itrs a race, it doesnt show up on subsequent runs Jan 14 13:56:48 ogra_: clean flash, clean first boot, wait for ubiquity, tap hostname, onboard pops up and I fill in the hostname just fine and finish the configure. Jan 14 13:56:49 =( Jan 14 13:57:10 move on, sometimes it needs until the wlan setup Jan 14 13:57:26 hmm.. Jan 14 13:57:42 * xnox is testing/uploading udev rules to flash nexus7 without sudo & then usb-creator work. Jan 14 13:58:01 yay Jan 14 14:04:25 xnox, hmm, bug 1099122 smells like it could be related, and carla mentions that it also happened once on amd64 Jan 14 14:04:26 Launchpad bug 1099122 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "unable to enter timezone city in input field during install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099122 Jan 14 14:04:55 so i would even go that far to suspect the race is there and not even arch specific Jan 14 14:05:28 bug 1099123 too Jan 14 14:05:29 Launchpad bug 1099123 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "keyboard detection does not work during ARM image install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099123 Jan 14 14:08:37 xnox: OK. noted. Packages don't always want to use dh_autoreconf, but I agree it's a better plan. Jan 14 14:09:01 Packagers Jan 14 14:09:10 wookey: i mean, if debian doesn't accept that change that's fine. But dh_autoreconf is a much simplier "patch" to maintain. Jan 14 14:09:22 Right Jan 14 14:09:36 Will do henceforth Jan 14 14:09:41 =) Jan 14 14:10:12 autoconf patches are an abomination. I've had hours of fun with libffi Jan 14 14:13:22 and autoreconf does also gnu-configize --force so you have both Jan 14 14:22:09 Hello, i am using ubuntu 12.04.1 often via ssh. Few days ago i noticed that on logon it doesn't show anymore last login details. Searching i discover the command "last", but it says that there is no log file. Jan 14 14:22:28 ...so i created it and after this it worked fine, but after the reboot the file has been deleted....i don'tunderstand because, do u have an explanation?? Thanks Jan 14 14:24:25 somebody noticed this problem before? Jan 14 14:26:25 uragano2, are you sure its not a diskspce problem ? Jan 14 14:26:30 *space Jan 14 14:27:19 ogra_: 77GB free Jan 14 14:27:49 and the rootfs is mounted rw, no errors in dmesg etc ? Jan 14 14:31:02 ogra_: dmseg seems clean, should i check for something of particular? rootfs is mounted rw Jan 14 14:31:27 no, i was just going through the obvious bits :) Jan 14 14:31:59 sounds like its worth a bug report then Jan 14 14:34:13 i am worried that somebody break my system :S Jan 14 14:34:30 checl /var/log/auth.log :) Jan 14 14:34:36 *check even Jan 14 14:34:46 sshd logs all logins there by default Jan 14 14:34:47 it starts from last reboot Jan 14 14:34:59 all logs start from last reboot Jan 14 14:35:16 not the .0 or .*.gz ones Jan 14 14:36:03 nope Jan 14 14:40:28 ogra_: the udev snippet you pasted a while ago w.r.t. setting udev-acl doesn't make the device writtable =( Jan 14 14:40:42 xnox, weird, works here Jan 14 14:41:05 ogra_: do you have it named specially or did you just patch the existing udev-acl rules file? Jan 14 14:41:21 i'm actually trying to find it, one sec Jan 14 14:42:29 hmpf Jan 14 14:42:35 i dont seem to have it anymore Jan 14 14:42:55 it should have something like: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="18d1", ATTR{idProduct}=="4e40" Jan 14 14:43:32 yeap. and +TAG="udev-acl" or explicit test and call for udev-acl binary. Jan 14 14:43:47 hmmm... Jan 14 14:44:06 not sure, might need a reboot to make udevbd pick it up Jan 14 14:47:15 xnox, is the above a typo ? Jan 14 14:47:20 TAG+="udev-acl" would be right Jan 14 14:47:32 not +TAG="udev-acl" Jan 14 14:47:33 yeah typo on IRC Jan 14 14:47:36 k Jan 14 14:47:40 very weird Jan 14 14:48:19 the acl stuff onyl works under consolekit sessions ... you rant logged in via ssh or some such ? Jan 14 14:48:30 s/rant/arent Jan 14 14:49:57 ogra_: win =) Jan 14 14:50:02 :) Jan 14 14:50:18 ogra_: typo s/04e40/4e40/ Jan 14 14:50:23 heh Jan 14 14:50:47 on the other hand I learned how to debug udev logs (and realise that nothing is working) and build debug build of android tools =) Jan 14 14:51:13 heh Jan 14 14:54:02 ogra_: are u using Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-1412-omap4 armv7l)? Jan 14 14:55:29 uragano2, not arm, no, my pandas are either 12.10 or raring Jan 14 14:58:19 so i have a strange problem. i installed 12.10 on my beaglebone which is powered by a solar panel and battery. i under estimated the needed batteries and the bone shutdown unexpectedly. now via usb all i see is a uboot prompt. is there a way to reload the boot loader without writing a whole new image? Jan 14 15:13:12 jpastore, better ask in #beagle, wo dont have any images for the bone in ubuntu Jan 14 15:14:43 ogra_, is my only own option writing a whole new disk image? i mounted the sd card in my laptop and it is accessible. i'm backing up my work...can i get a list of installed packages from the file system? Jan 14 15:15:05 sorry, no idea, i have never seen or touched a beaglebone Jan 14 15:15:08 ogra_: i think that the bug is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1019338 Jan 14 15:15:09 Launchpad bug 1019338 in Ubuntu "ami-4438b474 lacks /var/log/{btmp,wtmp,lastlog}" [Low,Fix released] Jan 14 15:16:18 unlikely, it is about cloud images Jan 14 15:16:43 (which uses a completely own build and boot infrastructure) Jan 14 15:17:52 ogra_, not needed. i am not interested in cloud9 right now. i installed ubuntu-arm 12.10 on the beaglebone and everything was fine until this happened. is there a way extrapolate a list of installed packages by looking at the filesystem? cache of debs or something? Jan 14 15:18:08 uff...i have no idea why i lost my logs, i'll make a new installation. Thanks anyway for your help! Jan 14 15:18:34 jpastore, what os is your host machine running ? Jan 14 15:19:00 ogra_, also ubuntu Jan 14 15:19:09 (where you mount the SD) Jan 14 15:19:11 k Jan 14 15:19:16 install quemu-user-static Jan 14 15:19:38 then copy the qemu-arm-static from /usr/bin to /usr/bin on the SD Jan 14 15:19:41 just updated this laptop to 12.10 and as always it's a process that requires punishment. Jan 14 15:19:54 when you now *manually* mount the SD, you can chroot into the filesystem Jan 14 15:20:32 (and do all operations as if you were under an arm system) Jan 14 15:21:14 ok let me look up what quemu is =) Jan 14 15:21:35 qemu (sorry, typo) Jan 14 15:22:36 qemu ususally is used for VMs ... but the -user variant, together with a setup for the binfmt modules can give you native arm support on x86 without a VM Jan 14 15:23:06 ubuntu has that setup by default with the qemu-user-static package so you can chroot into any arm filesystem and just use it Jan 14 15:23:09 np. still trying to figure it out =) so i can run this and emulate the arm chip and access the file system as if it was booted and use apt-get to get a list of packages? Jan 14 15:23:20 right Jan 14 15:24:17 ok package installed. since I've copied this over, i'm running from /usr/bin initially, it just needs access to the bin after i chroot? Jan 14 15:26:17 right Jan 14 15:26:30 marvin24: ping Jan 14 15:26:43 the kernel recognizes the binaries you execute as arm ones and wraps them in qemu execution calls Jan 14 15:26:48 marvin24: which ppa are you referring to https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/219088 Jan 14 15:39:59 ogra_, thanks got local apt-get running...this is pretty kewl. i didn't know you could do this. Jan 14 15:40:09 :) Jan 14 15:41:32 note that if you actually install or remove packages you should make soure to have /proc mounted inside the chroot (and dont forget to unmount it when laving it) Jan 14 15:47:22 czajkowski: sorry, I meant all packages for this team Jan 14 15:47:46 https://launchpad.net/~ac100/+archive/u-boot Jan 14 15:47:48 ogra_: android-tools with udev rules uploaded. Jan 14 15:47:58 czajkowski: and I need to create a kernel ppa also Jan 14 15:47:59 * ogra_ hugs xnox Jan 14 15:48:16 marvin24, why do you want one PPA per package ? Jan 14 15:48:25 ogra_: well =) now I can do usb-creator bits with format v1.0 Jan 14 15:48:29 marvin24, just take over the ac100 enablement one asnd delete the others Jan 14 15:48:37 ogra_: yes, is this wrong? Jan 14 15:48:51 ogra_, dude. this is the second time you've help. can i send you a cup of coffee or something. i really appreciate you taking the time to help me. good people on IRC are way to under appreciated Jan 14 15:48:53 many sources.list entries to add for testers Jan 14 15:49:29 jpastore, if we have an UDS near your place you can pay me a beer, beyond that my support is for free ;) Jan 14 15:49:48 UDS? Jan 14 15:49:51 marvin24, i would just go with one PPA Jan 14 15:49:59 ah, ok Jan 14 15:50:06 marvin24: done for that one, if you create another ppa can you please jsut open a new question Jan 14 15:50:10 thanks Jan 14 15:50:12 jpastore, http://summit.ubuntu.com/ ... where we all meet in person Jan 14 15:50:19 I'm in Lima Peru. =) Jan 14 15:50:26 czajkowski: https://launchpad.net/~ac100/+archive/ppa Jan 14 15:50:34 oh that would rock if they have one here Jan 14 15:50:38 I'm going to delete the other ones as ogra suggested Jan 14 15:50:41 oh, we havent had any UDSes in south america yet Jan 14 15:50:54 marvin24: done Jan 14 15:51:02 czajkowski: thanks a lot! Jan 14 15:51:03 (next one is near san francisco i heard) Jan 14 15:56:16 oh i have family there. give me a good reason to fly up. Jan 14 22:11:28 I talked about usb-ethernet on the nexus7 here a day or so ago... I now tried it and got it to work very easily: I recompiled the ubuntu kernel with CONFIG_USB_CDC_COMPOSITE and without CONFIG_USB_G_SERIAL, added a couple of lines to /etc/network/interfaces (I guess using NetworkManager would work too) and apt-get install openssh-server and that was it Jan 14 22:11:29 now the usb-serial console works just as before and I have an additional usb0 Ethernet device so I can ssh to the nexus7 through usb (and do package installs through usb etc.) :) Jan 14 22:13:56 (I used a static IP address without a default route, so I can leave it up all the time, as I'm used to doing on my openmoko gta02, but I guess you could use dhcp etc. via the networkmanager ui just as well... I think it's just a normal wired interface as far as NM is concerned) Jan 14 22:17:26 kulve: thanks for the info you gave me a day or so ago, read the above ^^^ if you're interested... Jan 14 22:22:28 hmm, maybe you folks at ubuntu could consider making CONFIG_USB_CDC_COMPOSITE the default for the nexus7 kernel, since it only adds features to CONFIG_USB_G_SERIAL? or maybe compile all of the usb gadget drivers as modules and load g_serial on boot, so the users could switch gadgets without a kernel recompile? Jan 14 22:37:33 OK, back for some grueling... No luck so far getting Ubuntu native on the Toshiba Thrive. Jan 14 22:39:43 Tried AC100, Asus Transformer, Advent Vega, Motorola Xoom, even modified Thrive source; either my display shuts off, or it gets stuck at the Fastboot "Loading" screen. Jan 14 22:41:09 I did try to do the chroot method, but still ended up with no display :( Jan 14 22:46:00 AmEv: what version of the kernel is that Jan 14 22:46:20 Native? 2.6.39. Jan 14 22:46:35 ok hmm Jan 14 22:46:43 thrive is tegra 2 yeah? Jan 14 22:47:23 Yep. Jan 14 22:47:37 although 2.6.39 AFAIK wasn't affected by the issue I am thinking of Jan 14 22:48:15 I know someone was trying to port a 3.* kernel over, but had to leave. Jan 14 22:49:33 Whoops, wrong button... Jan 14 22:50:24 I know I do have a working rootfs on an SD card... Jan 14 22:54:03 Anyway, lilstevie, thanks for coming back again. I remember you giving advice a few days ago. Jan 14 22:54:14 I'll be here with my Thrive, trying things out. Jan 14 22:54:24 heh Jan 14 22:54:41 well I don't know, you could maybe check your .config Jan 14 22:55:10 Yeah, the first thing I did was enable Framebuffer Console and VT. Nope... Jan 14 23:39:09 Hello! Jan 14 23:40:28 Guess what I did? Jan 14 23:41:04 I put ubuntu on a UG802 Jan 14 23:41:48 like this : http://tinypic.com/r/34pj47d/6 Jan 14 23:41:55 it's a video of it booting Jan 14 23:42:36 sorry if you cannot see it, it's that fast Jan 14 23:42:59 Ehh, I got disconnected for a sec... Jan 14 23:45:05 Anyway, any thoughts as to bootup problems? Jan 14 23:45:28 AmEv_, One. as in I cannot install OPENGL and I need it Jan 14 23:45:37 well I can installit* Jan 14 23:45:45 it's just I cannot find it Jan 14 23:46:11 wbf: 1) ARM devices do not have OpenGL we have OpenGLES Jan 14 23:46:32 Well, I'm having bootup problems on my Thrive... Jan 14 23:46:48 second of all you need to see if there are drivers for the GPU Jan 14 23:46:51 When I made my own initfs, I didn't have any errors on the final one... Jan 14 23:47:21 lilstevie, I already installed the driver, but do you know of any good linux games for ARM? Jan 14 23:47:47 Should I create a Launchpad bug? Jan 14 23:48:23 AmEv: only if you can determine that ubuntu is the problem :p Jan 14 23:48:37 cause it is more than likely your kernel Jan 14 23:48:44 wbf: you are kidding right? Jan 14 23:48:45 :p Jan 14 23:48:47 OK. Jan 14 23:49:10 lilstevie, Okay sorry about that, I guess I need to go to offtopic.. Jan 14 23:49:22 wbf: not my point Jan 14 23:49:33 Strange that known-working Tegra 2 kernels aren't working on my device.... Jan 14 23:49:46 lilstevie, so there's no games for arm linux? Jan 14 23:49:57 wbf: there are not many games available really, and even less support openGLES Jan 14 23:50:13 AmEv: what did you expect, you cannot just take another devices kernel and expect it to work Jan 14 23:50:44 Didn't think so. Not like x86 where there's a universal boot disk.... Jan 14 23:51:36 lilstevie, well what BETA games are there? Jan 14 23:52:52 I wonder: What's the best kernel (cross-)compiler for the Tegra 2 devices? Jan 15 00:10:23 is there an easy way to try a 12.10 release from 7/12? Jan 15 00:11:27 what do you mean by 7/12 Jan 15 00:11:33 ? Jan 15 00:14:59 July-2012 Jan 15 00:15:04 I suppose it was a beta realease Jan 15 00:15:33 I saw an article about an omap4 release with that date on it, I'm just curious how I could find that particular release Jan 15 00:15:53 wouldnt 12.07 be the Linaro release on top of 12.04? Jan 15 00:19:28 jj234: this is not a linaro support channel... maybe try #linaro? Jan 15 00:19:48 but ubuntu 12.10 is awesome on all ARM platforms =)))) Jan 15 00:20:08 *cough* Jan 15 00:20:22 XorA: bless you =) Jan 15 00:20:34 all arm platforms it supports you mean :-D Jan 15 00:20:43 naturally =) Jan 15 00:20:51 what were the big improvements over 12.04? Jan 15 00:22:50 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop Jan 15 00:22:54 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer Jan 15 00:22:57 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core Jan 15 00:23:33 all three had many improvements over 12.04, depending what you care about, some of them may be "big" for you. Jan 15 00:23:49 * xnox personally likes the improved pandaboard installer & more polished ac100 images. Jan 15 00:23:57 and nexus7 support. Jan 15 00:24:38 There's no nexus7 support in 12.10, just sketchy out-of-archive images. Jan 15 00:24:51 :p Jan 15 00:27:43 infinity: at least it doesn't fry the speakers..... Jan 15 00:27:51 Heh... Jan 15 00:32:57 Duh. Stock CM10 kernel don't have VT... Jan 15 00:33:52 At least I can try building a kernel. Jan 15 00:37:11 Well, sound works in chroot, but not graphics -_- Jan 15 00:41:05 Note to self: ADB in Linux is LOADS better than ADB in Win32... Jan 15 00:54:16 Whee... Compressing a kernel source .zip on-device... fun.... Jan 15 00:55:23 Will keep changes documented, of course ;) Jan 15 01:04:08 Of course it's going to cross-compile faster on your quad-core x86 than compile on your dual-core ARM tablet.... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 15 02:59:58 2013