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Jan 19 06:14:30 <mvt007geek> hi
Jan 19 06:16:02 <mvt007geek> i am trying to install ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4 on panda board. but i see nothing in monitor. someone told me it's because of ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4 .is it true? should i use newer versions???
Jan 19 06:35:21 <mvt007geek> no answer dears?
Jan 19 06:36:17 <XorA> europe is still asleep
Jan 19 06:42:56 <infinity> mvt007geek: (a) you should use 12.04/armhf, ideally.
Jan 19 06:43:13 <infinity> mvt007geek: (b) it could just be that you're using the wrong DVI/HDMI port.
Jan 19 06:44:03 <infinity> mvt007geek: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ <-- For the omap4/armhf 12.04 images.
Jan 19 06:46:00 <mvt007geek> infinity: no i checked it.also i changed port so many times.but still not working. and currently i'm downloading it to see what eill happend next :) by the way because of slow internet speed till 2 hour is better to work on ubuntu11.10 :D
Jan 19 07:02:49 <mvt007geek> i want to configure minicom .http://omappedia.org/wiki/PandaBoard_Ubuntu_How-tos#Install_and_Setup_Minicom    i don't know how find the right usb port. can someone help me?
Jan 19 07:05:07 <erdnussradio> take a look at output of dmesg perhaps you can find more information there.
Jan 19 07:06:12 <mvt007geek> http://paste.debian.net/226310/
Jan 19 07:06:31 <mvt007geek> erdnussradio: http://paste.debian.net/226310/
Jan 19 07:06:43 <mvt007geek> it's confusing
Jan 19 07:08:24 <erdnussradio> mvt007geek: what are you trying? ttyS0 looks like a serial console
Jan 19 07:08:53 <mvt007geek> http://paste.debian.net/226311/
Jan 19 07:11:26 <erdnussradio> where is the problem? What do you want to do? Use a usb-serial adapter or what do you want to do with minicom?
Jan 19 07:13:26 <mvt007geek> i connected pandaboard to a pc(serial port) to check it with minicom
Jan 19 07:13:51 <erdnussradio> ok. then try to use ttyS0
Jan 19 07:14:52 <erdnussradio> but perhaps it would be easierto use ssh via eth but its your choice ;)
Jan 19 07:15:26 <mvt007geek> http://paste.debian.net/226323/
Jan 19 07:16:28 <mvt007geek> erdnussradio: pandaboard monitor don't work.that's the reason i want to use minicom.i want to check what is the problem. so there is no ubuntu on panda to ssh to
Jan 19 07:18:12 <erdnussradio> ok. then try picocom /dev/ttyS0
Jan 19 07:18:19 <erdnussradio> cant find how to do that in minicom sry
Jan 19 07:20:59 <erdnussradio> but usually its neccessary to also hand over the baud rate. But i dont know what the baud rate of your panda board is.
Jan 19 07:21:37 <erdnussradio> google says 115200
Jan 19 07:28:20 <mvt007geek> erdnussradio: i installed picocom .but don't know anything about it :D
Jan 19 07:28:40 <erdnussradio> mvt007geek: man picocom
Jan 19 07:29:45 <erdnussradio> mvt007geek: 'picocom -b 115200 /dev/ttyS0' should work
Jan 19 07:30:20 <mvt007geek> erdnussradio:  yes. yes.it works :)
Jan 19 07:30:33 <erdnussradio> :)
Jan 19 07:31:19 <mvt007geek> http://paste.debian.net/226327/
Jan 19 07:35:21 <mvt007geek> but what should i do now?should i write anything in terminal ?because it show nothing to me!!i turned on and off pandaboard but nothing
Jan 19 07:51:51 <mvt007geek> erdnussradio: i decided to change baudrate .cause when i turn panda on and off picocom shows nothing to me :( but what are the baudrate i can give to it?
Jan 19 07:53:17 <erdnussradio> dont know. i dont know panda board and i dont know much about serial connections
Jan 19 13:21:11 <sim590> Anyone has got the sound working on the TF101 under ubuntu?
Jan 19 15:27:15 <Aartsie> hi all
Jan 19 15:29:17 <Aartsie> i have seen the topic but is it possible to install ubuntu arm on a pi ?
Jan 19 15:30:09 <lilstevie> no, that is why it is in the topic
Jan 19 15:31:46 <Aartsie> ok :) are the ubuntu developers busy on it ? or it should never work ?
Jan 19 15:32:51 <lilstevie> no
Jan 19 15:36:16 <infinity> Aartsie: It'll never work because the Pi is armv6, and we target >= armv7
Jan 19 15:36:47 <infinity> Aartsie: Debian armel is armv4 (so that works), and there's also an unofficial Debian port called "Raspbian" that's armv6/hard-float.
Jan 19 15:37:21 <infinity> Aartsie: The latter (Raspbian) as actually what the Pi guys tend to recommend these days, I believe, so you might want to give it a go.
Jan 19 15:37:51 <infinity> Aartsie: And, trust me, you don't want to be running a full Ubuntu desktop on a Pi, so you're not really missing out (they're sloooow).
Jan 19 15:38:43 <Aartsie> hmmm ok to bad
Jan 19 15:41:07 <infinity> Hrm, I suppose I should switch the order of those too.
Jan 19 15:42:29 <lilstevie> heh
Jan 19 15:42:42 <lilstevie> Aartsie: ubuntu would really be painful on the rpi
Jan 19 15:42:48 <infinity> Yeah.
Jan 19 15:43:07 <infinity> The "Ubuntu" that I would run on a Pi (if I could), would be seriously cut down, with a really lightweight WM (or no WM at all).
Jan 19 15:43:14 <lilstevie> 512MB ram is barely enough, I'd hate to imagine it with 256MBN
Jan 19 15:43:16 <lilstevie> -N
Jan 19 15:43:22 <infinity> At which point, I've ventured into the realm of "software that Ubuntu doesn't modify".
Jan 19 15:43:30 <infinity> And you've got... *drum roll*... Debian.
Jan 19 15:43:39 <lilstevie> infinity: yeah, headless server would be the only way
Jan 19 15:43:59 <lilstevie> infinity: but even then its worth would be questionable
Jan 19 15:44:12 <infinity> lilstevie: Headless might be alright.  Even my crap little Beagle C4 is vaguely usable headless.
Jan 19 15:44:31 <lilstevie> until you give it some work to do
Jan 19 15:44:57 <infinity> lilstevie: I hear the Pi's got pretty spiffy graphics, though (disproportionately so, compared to the CPU), so a super lightweight WM, or just a raw X with a video player on the root window might work quite well.
Jan 19 15:45:32 <lilstevie> infinity: yeah
Jan 19 15:46:05 <lilstevie> infinity: I have a roku 2 XS which has the same SoC
Jan 19 15:46:10 <lilstevie> it is brilliant for media
Jan 19 15:47:51 <infinity> My guess is that Raspbian booting directly to xbmc as the session manager might be alright.
Jan 19 15:48:05 <infinity> Assuming you pick a theme that isn't crazy CPU intensive for no good reason.
Jan 19 15:48:27 <lilstevie> yeah
Jan 19 15:49:13 <lilstevie> it really is a shame cause it has one of the best h.264 decoders I have seen on an arm SoC
Jan 19 15:54:17 <infinity> I wonder what the SoC is in my Samsung TV.  I've yet to throw anything at it that makes it upset.
Jan 19 15:55:39 <lilstevie> infinity: they are all samsung SoCs
Jan 19 15:56:24 <lilstevie> infinity: what series? (Ax, Bx, Cx, Dx, Ex)
Jan 19 15:56:36 <lilstevie> cause they are not quite all samsung actually
Jan 19 15:56:53 <lilstevie> C5xxx and D5xxx also come in mips
Jan 19 15:57:14 <infinity> It's a Uxxx8000
Jan 19 15:57:27 <infinity> Looks like a Samsung SDP1106, whatever that is.
Jan 19 15:57:33 <lilstevie> D or E?
Jan 19 15:57:50 <infinity> I'd have to go downstairs and look, and I'm far too lazy. :)
Jan 19 15:57:56 <lilstevie> heh
Jan 19 15:58:01 <lilstevie> 2011 or 2012
Jan 19 15:58:30 <lilstevie> (thats all the letter refers to :p)
Jan 19 15:58:37 <infinity> Bought it last year, not sure when it was manufactured.
Jan 19 15:58:43 <lilstevie> fair enough
Jan 19 15:59:04 <infinity> I didn't buy it to hack on, just to watch stuff, so I've not really dug into specs.
Jan 19 15:59:04 <XorA|gone> hey lilstevie I got myself a tf700t whats the native linux expeience like on those beasties?
Jan 19 15:59:05 <lilstevie> either way it will be similar to hummingbird (Exynos3) or Exynos4
Jan 19 15:59:46 <lilstevie> XorA|gone: no idea, haven't done it with the tf700 cause I don't have one
Jan 19 16:00:01 <lilstevie> can't imagine it being much different to the tf201 though except with better resolution
Jan 19 16:00:06 <lilstevie> which is pretty decent
Jan 19 16:00:14 <XorA|gone> lilstevie: was my figuring as well
Jan 19 16:00:32 <lilstevie> XorA|gone: the only thing is you will need to build a kernel for it
Jan 19 16:00:56 <lilstevie> tf700 at present is the only device incompatible with the kernel on my repo
Jan 19 16:01:03 <lilstevie> it *may* work, but with issue
Jan 19 16:01:05 <lilstevie> +s
Jan 19 16:01:08 <XorA|gone> hehe
Jan 19 16:01:19 <XorA|gone> I need to decide whether to unlock boot loader first
Jan 19 16:01:35 <lilstevie> cause tf201 and tf300 are very similar
Jan 19 16:01:38 <infinity> Is the answer to that question ever "no"?
Jan 19 16:01:39 <RaYmAn> is it running jb or ics?
Jan 19 16:01:42 <infinity> Unlock early, unlock often.
Jan 19 16:01:54 <RaYmAn> if it's ics, unlock and do nvflash procedure =P
Jan 19 16:01:55 <lilstevie> heh that is also a good question
Jan 19 16:02:19 <XorA|gone> RaYmAn: it is not ICS, but it can be again ;-)
Jan 19 16:02:33 <lilstevie> XorA|gone: nope it can't be :p
Jan 19 16:02:39 <lilstevie> well not to a level that matters
Jan 19 16:03:12 <lilstevie> there is only one ICS firmware you can downgrade to, but that has the vulnerability closed
Jan 19 16:06:13 <XorA|gone> looks like on tf700t nvflash coudlnt unbrick even if you did the trick
Jan 19 16:06:23 <XorA|gone> so I didn't lose anything
Jan 19 16:06:43 <RaYmAn> uhm
Jan 19 16:06:47 <RaYmAn> it can unbrick from anything
Jan 19 16:06:53 <lilstevie> except hardware damage
Jan 19 16:06:58 <RaYmAn> of course :P
Jan 19 16:07:07 <XorA|gone> RaYmAn: not according to its page it cant
Jan 19 16:07:23 <RaYmAn> XorA|gone: then whatever page you are looking at is wrong.
Jan 19 16:07:50 <lilstevie> XorA|gone: seems kinda odd if it doesn't work
Jan 19 16:07:58 <RaYmAn> lilstevie: we should probably put a list of members on the androidroot.mobi page at some point ;)
Jan 19 16:08:22 <lilstevie> RaYmAn: probably a good idea :p
Jan 19 16:09:05 <XorA|gone> RaYmAn: its the androidroot.mobi page that says that
Jan 19 16:09:16 <RaYmAn> XorA|gone: uhm, no. Where?
Jan 19 16:09:40 <XorA|gone> http://androidroot.mobi/2012/09/23/nvflash-for-tegra3-transformer-tf700t/
Jan 19 16:10:20 <lilstevie> XorA|gone: oh I see what you did there
Jan 19 16:10:26 <RaYmAn> you're misreading it
Jan 19 16:10:28 <lilstevie> XorA|gone: you must run the procedure on a working device
Jan 19 16:10:34 <RaYmAn> indeed
Jan 19 16:10:41 <XorA|gone> it needs re-worded than :-)
Jan 19 16:10:42 <lilstevie> once you are bricked you cant run the procedure
Jan 19 16:11:14 <XorA|gone> bah, had I not read that first I would have done it
Jan 19 16:11:34 <RaYmAn> you're the first person I've heard of who misunderstood that part =P
Jan 19 16:19:26 <XorA|gone> ah well too late now, will wait until I get a tf900 :-D
Jan 19 16:19:58 <lilstevie> lol
Jan 19 16:22:06 <XorA|gone> chances are Ill never get a chance to brick the 700 anyway, always too busing debugging tablets for work :-)
Jan 19 16:23:25 <lilstevie> we cannot guarantee that asus will not brick it for you
Jan 19 16:23:40 <XorA|gone> then its under waranty :-D
Jan 19 16:25:09 <lilstevie> are you in the us?
Jan 19 16:25:25 <XorA|gone> currently in US but I like in UK
Jan 19 16:25:37 <XorA|gone> live
Jan 19 16:25:51 <lilstevie> heh
Jan 19 16:26:13 <XorA|gone> anyway time to head to meet friends
Jan 19 16:26:18 <lilstevie> later
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