**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 22 02:59:58 2013 Jan 22 07:49:39 good morning Jan 22 08:41:43 I've updated the wiki with details of dual-booting with MultiROM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Details_of_installing_MultiROM_and_Modified_Recovery_to_Enable_Dual-Boot. Would be great if someone could "test" this section (and maybe add screenshots ;-) Jan 22 09:30:49 jodh, I made a tiny few little changes to the doc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation?action=diff&rev2=28&rev1=27 Jan 22 09:31:40 jodh, trying to boot raring-preinstalled-deskto give me "Error - Kexec-hardboot support required to boot this ROM. Use kernel with kexec-hardboot support. Touch anywhere to close" Jan 22 09:31:58 booting "Internal" seems to work though Jan 22 09:32:17 dholbach: sounds like you forgot to flash the kexec kernel (step 25). Jan 22 09:32:48 weird - let me retry Jan 22 09:32:50 dholbach: you can go back and do that now if you boot into the bootloader, then into recovery and select MultiROM. Jan 22 09:33:06 let me try Jan 22 09:56:36 jodh, that made it work - perfect Jan 22 09:56:49 dholbach: great! :) Jan 22 10:00:53 ogra_, looks like the background is still corrupted during oem-config - also onboard was hidden by the wifi dialog, so I couldn't enter anything in there Jan 22 10:01:10 hum, I can't enter anything at all? Jan 22 10:01:18 dholbach, both known issues, i wonder if we should switch back to metacity Jan 22 10:01:30 a reboot fixes the input issue Jan 22 10:01:47 do we have bug reports for both? Jan 22 10:01:53 i think so Jan 22 10:04:02 can't find either of them Jan 22 10:05:03 bug 1093050 Jan 22 10:05:04 Launchpad bug 1093050 in ubuntu-nexus7 "OnBoard doesn't work on text boxes during initial setup" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1093050 Jan 22 10:05:07 is the input one Jan 22 10:05:59 bug 1080437 is one incarnation of the other issue Jan 22 10:05:59 ah yes, I must have overlooked that one Jan 22 10:05:59 Launchpad bug 1080437 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "no background during the 13.04 daily install" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1080437 Jan 22 10:06:28 or bug 1088692 Jan 22 10:06:29 Launchpad bug 1080674 in cairo "duplicate for #1088692 [QEMU] Corrupted desktop screen for raring desktop installation in QEMU guest (Cirrus graphics). Affects KVM but not VBox." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1080674 Jan 22 10:06:43 ah ok, I was just looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7 nevermind Jan 22 10:07:26 or it could be bug 1081260 Jan 22 10:07:27 Launchpad bug 1081260 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/ubiquty/wallpaper crashes after boot of livecd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1081260 Jan 22 10:07:45 not sure about that one, but it is cosmetic anyway Jan 22 10:07:52 the input one is worse Jan 22 10:08:48 jodh, be very careful about the dual boot images, afaik the userspace has some very heavy hacks, i'm not sure we can accept bugs from such an install Jan 22 10:11:18 I managed to get a wallpaper to work - instead of wallpaper use gnome-settings-daemon to paint the wallpaper, which doesn't help derivatives =( Jan 22 10:14:02 jodh, in fact i would prefer if we would not have any instructions on the wiki that make them look official and just have the XDA link instead so people grok it is some modified third party image Jan 22 10:16:06 xnox, well the input stuff is more worrying than shiny wallpapers :) Jan 22 10:16:24 (which we could just call modern art :P ) Jan 22 10:19:24 ogra_: feel free to remove them if you wish. I appreciate there are risks, but I thought I'd share as imho it might encourage more to explore Ubuntu on the Nexus if they could keep the existing image. Jan 22 10:19:38 yes, we had a number of requests already Jan 22 10:19:51 what kind of "heavy hacks" were you referring to? Jan 22 10:20:00 ogra_: added to which, the existing instructions on dual-booting that I'd found on the web were confusing at best ;) Jan 22 10:21:52 ogra_: just a thought - if we keep the instructions, is there any way we could have apport detect that the Ubuntu image was booted via kexec and thus flag any bugs raised as "potentially tainted" (particularly useful for kernel bugs I guess). Jan 22 10:24:16 dholbach, look at the xda thread Jan 22 10:24:24 i havent inspected them Jan 22 10:24:44 until someone has i wouldnt recommend that image on the official install instructions Jan 22 14:34:55 hi, all! Can I access the Nexus 7 accelerometer from Ubuntu? I need to get the values, Jan 22 14:36:56 reisei: take a look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jani/+junk/nexus/view/head:/nexus.go Jan 22 14:37:19 accelerometer is used in there to rotate the screen Jan 22 14:38:13 Tassadar: but I need just the values :) Jan 22 14:38:54 that's why I said take a look, there is the path to accelerometr data in there Jan 22 14:39:16 this looks like it's folder: /sys/bus/iio/devices/iio:device0/ Jan 22 14:40:16 Tassadar, long outdated Jan 22 14:40:25 the images already have accel support Jan 22 14:40:51 well yeah, I just wanted to show him how to access the data, and it is pretty easy to see in that code Jan 22 14:41:01 reisei, make sure to have the latest ubuntu-defaults-nexus7 package installed, it ships accelerometer support Jan 22 14:41:31 in /usr/bin/acceld is the very simple shellscript that reads the values Jan 22 14:41:50 oh, okay Jan 22 14:42:22 i'll add something similar for the ambient sensore the next days Jan 22 14:42:26 *sensor Jan 22 14:52:15 ogra_: thanks! Jan 22 14:52:31 Tassadar: thanks too! Jan 22 16:17:06 ogra_: hi, around? Jan 22 16:17:37 ogra_: we talked last week about having a fully installed image for n7, is that available now? Jan 22 16:17:56 plars, sorry, i'm a bit behind but working on it Jan 22 16:18:12 ogra_: no worries, any ETA? Jan 22 16:18:29 but you wouldnt have any fun with it anyway until we have images again ... Jan 22 16:19:01 seems the livefs builder park is moving or so, the last three image build attempts failed and #is couldnt give me an ETA Jan 22 16:19:16 ogra_: ah, I saw there is no image since 20th, but wasn't sure what was wrong Jan 22 16:19:41 plars, i plan to have the code ready and uploaded tomorrow during my day, but you will need the stuff built into the image to use it Jan 22 16:20:00 ogra_: ok, sounds good Jan 22 16:20:19 with luck they are back again tomorrow, i'll make sure you get an image with the bits inside once they are Jan 22 16:21:30 Hi Jan 22 16:27:51 achiang, bug 1103000, do you remember why we dropped that patch ? i forgot why, i just remember many things were broken when we tried Jan 22 16:27:52 Launchpad bug 1103000 in ubuntu-nexus7 "Need to charge from USB hub with power connector" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103000 Jan 22 16:28:45 ogra_: hm, i think it caused hangs Jan 22 16:28:57 ogra_: like it broke the rest of USB Jan 22 16:29:01 ogra_: but janimo would know for sure Jan 22 16:29:20 oh, right, i remember now, yeah, it broke the whole USB stack Jan 22 16:30:02 how do i tell flash-kernel to install my $dtb? Jan 22 16:30:22 ppisati, i doubt it has any DTB support at all yet Jan 22 16:30:31 ah Jan 22 16:30:37 apart from kernels where you cat'ed the dtd at the end Jan 22 16:31:27 * ppisati wonders again why we updated flash-kernel... Jan 22 16:31:44 ogra_: attached dtb is not an option for multiplatform Jan 22 16:32:05 ppisati, indeed Jan 22 16:32:43 ppisati, file a whishlist bug ... some code how you would do it manually would also help Jan 22 16:32:52 i'll try to get to it Jan 22 16:33:17 ogra_: i'll do once i push my fist multiplatform kernel (probably tonight or tomorrow) Jan 22 16:33:32 k, thx Jan 22 16:33:56 ppisati, and we updated because the former version was even more painful Jan 22 16:34:25 ogra_: the previous version had more stuff hardcoded, but it had DTB support Jan 22 16:34:47 ogra_: i just decided to update my im6x to latest flash-kernel to try it out Jan 22 16:34:52 ogra_: and it was a bad decision :) Jan 22 16:34:59 i could have told you :P Jan 22 16:35:31 anyhow Jan 22 16:36:05 it i like the /usr/share/flash-kernel/db/ Jan 22 16:36:51 s/it// Jan 22 16:37:03 */usr/share/flash-kernel/db/ thing Jan 22 16:37:57 yeah, thats the biggest benefit the upgrade brought us Jan 22 16:47:41 ogra_: should I add ubuntu-nexus7 as affected project to bug 1089038? It is relevant mostly to nexus 7, and now it is just sitting among all other bugs in initramfs-tools package Jan 22 16:47:42 Launchpad bug 1089038 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "[PATCH] Add support for booting from subdirectory in root" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1089038 Jan 22 16:48:41 well, its a pretty generic initramfs feature, i dont thinnk its nexus7 related Jan 22 16:51:06 okay, I just felt like I should try to push things a bit from time to time Jan 22 16:52:30 well, the review team is subscribed, no need for making noise Jan 22 16:52:50 it will be in the sponsoring/reviewers queue Jan 22 16:53:47 though your chances are likely higher to get it in if you send it to debian, it adds additional delta to debians initramfs-tools Jan 22 16:54:00 which ubuntu will have to maintain Jan 22 16:54:56 I've sent it to ubuntu because I use it in my multi-boot tool, but it also needs the loop option (mounts image as root), which is only in ubuntu Jan 22 16:55:44 yes, still, its a burden ubuntu would have to carry Jan 22 16:56:04 having it in debian will get it us for free Jan 22 16:56:39 maybe I could send both to debian.... Jan 22 16:57:05 right, that surely makes things easier on the ubuntu side Jan 22 20:08:59 Anyone's got an idea why a partition table would just disappear? Jan 22 20:09:22 I just booted my TF101 today and my partition table was gone.. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 23 02:59:59 2013