**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 25 02:59:59 2013 Jan 25 07:39:10 hi Jan 25 07:39:53 i'm trying to cross compile a kernel on my desktop for a panda board but i get an dependency error Jan 25 07:40:13 but the dependencys are met and i still get that error Jan 25 07:48:25 wingze: what error? Jan 25 07:53:17 good morning Jan 25 07:56:35 good morning Jan 25 07:57:02 dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libelf-dev libnewt-dev binutils-dev libdw-dev libgtk2.0-dev | gtk2-devel Jan 25 07:57:17 i have all that installed but still get the error Jan 25 08:08:05 this is crazy Jan 25 08:12:19 ok got it working it was a build dependency error it needed gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi Jan 25 09:50:06 I have a headless target which plymouth is not installed, and I'm missing some of the logs from initramfs, even when I have console= console= in the kernel commandline. Is it possible to get this log out on the console, or do I need plymouth even on a headless system? Jan 25 10:58:49 sveinse: plymouth has text-mode plugins & can run fine on headless and output text. Jan 25 10:59:17 sveinse: i dunno how to do this without plymouth. Jan 25 11:19:17 is there any reasonably priced 10" tablet that can run Ubuntu well Jan 25 11:19:28 bonus points for Flash support in any way, shape or form (for livestreams that don't HTML5) Jan 25 11:47:31 xnox: Hmm. plymouth is installed after all (dep'd by mountall). But for some reason nothing appears in the console during initramfs. I have another device (another kernel) also with the console= console= bootcmd construct, but here it does work. Jan 25 11:48:34 Kernel config perhaps. Don't remember seeing any config related to that (since the initial printk of the kernel is output properly on the console) Jan 25 12:21:14 asiekierka: flash is a no go with ubuntu-arm Jan 25 12:22:21 asiekierka: for 10" tablets I don't really know of one that runs it "well", especially at a reasonable price, it runs fine on the tf201 but that isn't reasonably priced, and while fine I wouldn't call it "well" Jan 25 13:13:24 lilstevie: do you have a device tree for tf201? Jan 25 13:40:09 janimo, hmm, your HDA trick doesnt work if i build the HDA driver as module Jan 25 13:40:11 :( Jan 25 13:40:22 well we build it in I suggest Jan 25 13:40:31 most our hw stuff is built-in anyway Jan 25 13:40:35 as we know it is there Jan 25 13:40:39 well, i'm *extremely* short on bootimg space Jan 25 13:40:59 ah I remember Jan 25 13:41:09 how much more can fit there? Jan 25 13:41:17 so modular would indeed be preferred if we add any stuff Jan 25 13:41:22 -1M Jan 25 13:41:24 :P Jan 25 13:41:35 ohm that should fit fine then for a while :) Jan 25 13:41:44 the boot is slow enough that it justifies to have plymouth in the initrd Jan 25 13:42:01 which i cant do atm Jan 25 13:42:08 I did not look closely at what we have modular or built-in Jan 25 13:42:18 everything is builtin Jan 25 13:42:20 I think the majority of settings are as in the original android kernel Jan 25 13:42:25 well, nearly at least Jan 25 13:42:47 vmlinuz is 4.5M Jan 25 13:43:02 (ac100 is 1.2 or so) Jan 25 13:43:15 I say when we hit that limit, we take out non-essential hw stuff (maybe all the USB peripherals) Jan 25 13:43:32 you dont get it ? we are about 1M above Jan 25 13:43:34 and high-level networking and fss Jan 25 13:43:45 ah, aboce? I thought 1M to go Jan 25 13:43:46 it currently only works due to some evil hacks and diversions i add Jan 25 13:43:52 that - 1M confused me Jan 25 13:44:00 well, you asked how much more :) Jan 25 13:44:09 well I thought you said dash 1M not minus 1M Jan 25 13:44:43 * ogra_ is neadly done with a set of quietening patches for the boot Jan 25 13:44:47 *nearly Jan 25 13:45:15 well anything not strictly tegraSoC hw could be modular IMHO Jan 25 13:45:25 theoretically Jan 25 13:45:36 sadly practically that will fall over in many places Jan 25 13:45:53 well FSs that are not ext4, TCP, and other bits Asus/Google did not modify should be fine I think Jan 25 13:46:04 Iknow battery and some other bits don't work as modules Jan 25 13:46:06 all the non std drivers that are woven into android stuff usually require to be builtin Jan 25 13:46:27 right, but the big space consumers are network,fs and the rest of the code Jan 25 13:46:39 battery, wlan, bluetooth, i bet the accelerometer and all other sensors too Jan 25 13:46:44 so if we can make those modular it should fix the bootimg size issue Jan 25 13:46:57 right, but those are all relatively small footprint i bet Jan 25 13:47:15 well, wlan would really help Jan 25 13:47:33 we could drop all network bits to modules that way (protocols etc) Jan 25 13:47:49 wlan itself wont gain us much, but firewall, protocols etc Jan 25 14:15:49 ogra_, do we have a nexus meeting today? Jan 25 14:16:04 yup Jan 25 14:18:46 GRRR ! Jan 25 14:18:53 i just had the boot quiet ... Jan 25 14:19:06 enabling HDA gets me another message on the screen Jan 25 14:19:21 why cant people use pr_info for info messages instead of pr_err Jan 25 14:19:25 grmbl Jan 25 14:20:14 ogra_, is onboard not working when the gksu dialog after apport pops up a known issue? Jan 25 14:20:31 yes, gksu is supposed to go asap Jan 25 14:20:34 I seem to have seen lots of onboard related bugs filed but am not sure which are still relevznt Jan 25 14:20:42 what replaces gksu? Jan 25 14:20:53 pkexec, since about 4 releases now Jan 25 14:21:04 I keep getting an apport dialog on each session start, but cannot send the report due to this Jan 25 14:21:12 * janimo never heard of pkexec Jan 25 14:21:59 yet you use it all the time :) Jan 25 14:21:59 so by asap you mean a couple weeks or a couple more cycles? :) Jan 25 14:22:10 its part of policykit/consolekit Jan 25 14:22:18 i mean this cycle Jan 25 14:22:30 there are two apps left that need porting, then we can unseed gksu Jan 25 14:22:53 one is update-notifier (which is the apport bit you see) and the other is xdiagnose Jan 25 14:22:59 I don't know what makes up the 'January-2013 Linux Plumbing stack' Jan 25 14:23:28 where does that come from ? Jan 25 14:23:58 I can only assume it is different from 'December 2012 Linux Plumbing stack' and 'February 2013 Linux Plumbing stack' Jan 25 14:23:59 oh, you mean wrt pkexec :) Jan 25 14:24:42 wrt the whole moving thing which keeps getting in the way of actually writing features Jan 25 14:24:44 half-joking Jan 25 14:25:11 yay, completely quiet boot ! Jan 25 14:25:12 everything from kernel up until the login manager Jan 25 14:25:36 if we now just could have plymouth in initrd Jan 25 14:26:03 ogra_, what happened to the no initrd at all attempt? Jan 25 14:26:22 i got stuck at the console-setup race Jan 25 14:26:32 and was told bootspped isnt a prio anymore Jan 25 14:26:38 *speed Jan 25 14:27:07 so for now i just care about it having bling :) Jan 25 14:27:35 marvin24_: nope Jan 25 14:28:07 marvin24_: probably should work on that Jan 25 14:31:09 janimo: Who's on armadaxp SRU duty right now? You or Ike? Jan 25 14:31:39 Ike I guess Jan 25 14:31:55 Kay. We have a rushed revert in master that needs a quick rebase for derivatives. Jan 25 14:32:16 I was told I'd be doing non-SRU stuff last December, so my last armadaxp thing was the B0 enablement in Precise Jan 25 14:32:30 but if I misunderstood I can be convinced otherwise Jan 25 14:32:59 infinity, or if there's an emergency I can of course try handling it Jan 25 14:33:06 what happened to NCommander ? Jan 25 14:33:16 doesnt he do any server kernel work anymore ? Jan 25 14:33:28 ogra_, not on armadaxp at least Jan 25 14:34:01 janimo: I'll ping Ike. Jan 25 14:34:07 janimo, btw, compiling HDA in or as module doesnt get me any sound working (suspend/resume still does) Jan 25 14:34:26 are you sure your HDA stuff isnt just a red herring ? Jan 25 14:34:34 ogra_, very strange. I got that repeatedly after enabling it Jan 25 14:34:45 well I am not 100% sure, it just worked in my testing Jan 25 14:35:11 ogra do you have the volume turned on at boot? Jan 25 14:35:24 no, it is muted Jan 25 14:35:34 but unmuting doesnt get me any sound Jan 25 14:35:45 that sucks Jan 25 14:36:06 * ogra_ tries another reboot Jan 25 14:36:26 could it be i accidentally set some alsa configs which made it work? I'll dump my alsa state and paste it Jan 25 14:36:36 now that rotation works wutomatically, we should probably consider to just boot in portrait Jan 25 14:37:59 ogra_, alsa store gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1569919/ Jan 25 14:38:28 ogra_, I agree with portrait booting. needs to drop the fbcon rotate cmdline arg too Jan 25 14:38:28 it also doesnt seem to make any difference if HDA is card 0 or 1 Jan 25 14:38:49 ogra_, so reboot and still no sound? Jan 25 14:38:59 janimo, and i think yoiu did a hack to the touch driver to switch to 1280x800 from 800x1280 Jan 25 14:39:10 i guess we need to drop that too Jan 25 14:39:19 janimo, right, but sound after resume Jan 25 14:39:22 ogra_, right, I tested with that dropped this week Jan 25 14:39:36 will need the matrices shuffled in the rotate scripts Jan 25 14:39:42 great, telly me once it entered the kernel and i'll adjust the cmdline Jan 25 14:39:47 but better that way so portrait is the 'normal' one Jan 25 14:39:54 and we drop that needless delta vs the android kernel Jan 25 14:39:54 right Jan 25 14:40:07 and getting plymouth inoto landscape seems impossible anyway Jan 25 14:40:22 ogra_, btw the cmdline could be altered separately no? Isn't that only affecting the fbcon (so bootup messages) ? Jan 25 14:40:41 separately from ? Jan 25 14:40:58 from the rotate script and kernel stuff Jan 25 14:40:59 the cmdline has two parts, first is hardcoded in the bootloader ... Jan 25 14:41:05 second is from abootimg Jan 25 14:41:12 the abootimg part can be altered Jan 25 14:41:14 right, abootimg fbcon rotate=1 Jan 25 14:41:18 yeah Jan 25 14:41:21 which is only about display in console mode Jan 25 14:41:29 i'll drop that from the builds as soon as the kernel fix is there Jan 25 14:41:31 the kernel bit is only about touch input Jan 25 15:00:47 janimo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1569980/ Jan 25 15:01:01 thats the diff to my automatically stored asound.state file Jan 25 15:01:13 (yours is +) Jan 25 15:01:38 seems you played with all the controls :) Jan 25 15:02:00 i wonder if you probably stil have sound working if you now disable HDA in your kernel Jan 25 15:49:15 ogra_, can you try this .deb? http://people.canonical.com/~jani/linux-image-3.1.10-8-nexus7_3.1.10-8.21_armhf.deb Jan 25 15:49:23 sure Jan 25 15:49:32 I freshly rebuilt with the HDA and the axes inversion changes Jan 25 15:49:51 it works for me if I set the volume up (it is again off at boot) Jan 25 15:51:50 bah, the noise is back at boot :P Jan 25 15:52:28 nope Jan 25 15:52:30 no sound Jan 25 15:53:10 janimo, how exactly do you test btw ? Jan 25 15:53:27 * ogra_ just relies on the plop plop from the volume control applet Jan 25 15:53:41 (when adjusting with the buttons) Jan 25 15:54:32 ogra_, canberra-gtk-play --file=/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/glass.ogg Jan 25 15:54:42 geez, complex Jan 25 15:55:01 ergh Jan 25 15:55:03 well, I have no media to play, and this is a simple thing to test via ssh Jan 25 15:55:14 and indeed the touchscreen is totally screwed now Jan 25 15:55:16 with export DISPLAY=:0 of course Jan 25 15:55:30 well, i just press vol-up/down Jan 25 15:55:40 makes an event sound if audio works Jan 25 15:58:22 * ogra_ reboots back to a sane kernel that likes my touching :P Jan 25 16:01:07 ogra_, so no sound with this deb? Jan 25 16:01:16 janimo, right Jan 25 16:01:25 well, after resume i had it Jan 25 16:01:30 as with my kernel Jan 25 16:01:57 well, lets have a meeting :) Jan 25 16:02:39 ogra_, well with this kernel I get sound without having to do suspend Jan 25 16:03:43 ogra_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1570120/ the matrices changed around to have rotation work with this deb Jan 25 16:03:54 to be uploaded once we have the kernel change Jan 25 16:34:52 xnox, Bus 001 Device 067: ID 04e8:6866 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd Jan 25 16:34:54 Galaxy Nexus Jan 25 16:37:46 janimo: thanks. Jan 25 16:39:22 anyone else with a nexus 7 willing to test the deb I linked above to see if it fixes the no sound on boot problem? Jan 25 16:40:55 yeah, why not, tell me what to do Jan 25 16:42:01 just install and reboot I guess) Jan 25 16:42:35 right, like we discussed in the meeting :) Jan 25 16:43:10 Tassadar, yes, install and reboot but make sure you have ssh enabled or a keyboard or mouse Jan 25 16:43:21 as the touchscreen will be messed up :) Jan 25 16:43:30 via ssh then export DISPLAY=:0 Jan 25 16:43:51 and canberra-gtk-play --file=/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/glass.ogg Jan 25 16:43:58 or any other sound playing app you wish Jan 25 16:44:02 okay, I'll just update my installation first Jan 25 16:44:13 for me this works on boot without having to issue a suspend Jan 25 16:44:28 but you may need to turn the volume on Jan 25 16:56:44 hmm, it does not work for me Jan 25 16:57:04 Tassadar, does it work after a suspend cycle (as it did before) Jan 25 16:57:08 yes Jan 25 16:57:24 Anyone got some initfs advice for me? I'm trying to get Ubuntu to run natively on the Toshiba Thrive. Jan 25 16:58:11 just to make sure it is right kernel, my /proc/version looks like this: Jan 25 16:58:12 Linux version 3.1.10-8-nexus7 (jani@parapapio) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.2-19ubuntu1) ) #21 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 25 16:55:55 EET 2013 Jan 25 16:58:18 so I think it is the right one Jan 25 16:58:33 yeah, it is, the touch screen is messed up Jan 25 17:00:22 I was able to get into a chroot Ubuntu, but the X server never displayed anything. I know it had access to the framebuffer because there was garbage on the display before I started it. Jan 25 17:00:28 it doesn't need any modules or cmdline params during boot or something like that, does it? You said it is built in the kernel, right? Jan 25 17:04:02 Tassadar, yes it is the right kernel - especially since the touchscreen handling is broken right Jan 25 17:04:25 Tassadar, indeed no extra boot params Jan 25 17:04:39 Tassadar, thanks for testing Jan 25 17:04:52 I am building anothe deb now without the messed up touch now Jan 25 17:05:03 theres one hda-codec message if that's any help, "hda-codec: No codec parser is available" Jan 25 17:07:34 Tassadar, I have that too in dmesg Jan 25 17:19:59 Would I need to set a custom cmdline when I make the boot image on mine? If so, what? Jan 25 17:24:21 Tassadar, btw I put a new deb at the same URL, this time without the messed up screen Jan 25 17:25:05 did you test with the canberra command line ? Jan 25 17:25:54 ogra_, did you test with that canberra line btw? Jan 25 17:26:06 that works for me but playing an mp3 in rhythmbox is silent Jan 25 17:27:25 or rather it plays crack. I think I'll soon do a test-reinstall :) Jan 25 17:29:56 well, we dont ship any mp3 codecs Jan 25 17:30:16 rebooting to your latest kernel now Jan 25 17:32:04 ogra_, well I installed mpg123 and rhythmbox installed its own Jan 25 17:32:23 my alsa settings are likely broken now Jan 25 17:32:30 not sure how the gtk player just works Jan 25 17:32:34 anyway, no change with the kernel from the ML Jan 25 17:32:47 volume up? Jan 25 17:32:53 Hmmm... Sound works perfectly, but I'm not getting anything to display. Jan 25 17:32:54 and yes, i used the canberra methid too Jan 25 17:33:05 *method Jan 25 17:33:10 You and I are in completely opposite sides of the spectrum... haha Jan 25 17:33:13 volume is indeed up Jan 25 17:33:51 AmEv, does sound not work for you with the regular kernel unless suspending first? Jan 25 17:34:20 I'm actually on a Tegra 2 device in a Android-to-Ubuntuchroot. Jan 25 17:34:44 I have absolutely zero speaker issues. Jan 25 17:34:58 My problem is that I can't get anything to display. Jan 25 17:35:24 what do you want to display ? Jan 25 17:35:31 android doesnt ship an X server Jan 25 17:35:33 janimo: no, no sound until suspend/resume Jan 25 17:35:41 right, same here Jan 25 17:35:45 I've got Ubuntu on an SD card. Jan 25 17:35:51 but touchscreen works) Jan 25 17:35:57 Chroot. Jan 25 17:36:07 AmEv, but you are aware that ubuntu apps use X ? Jan 25 17:36:11 Yes. Jan 25 17:36:13 Tassadar, mine is a 16G model if that is any help but I doubt it has to do with the model Jan 25 17:36:18 mine too Jan 25 17:36:20 I'm trying to start X, but nothing's displaying. Jan 25 17:36:25 android doesnt ship an X server, you cant display anything Jan 25 17:37:23 janimo, i really think HDA is a red herring ... Jan 25 17:37:36 janimo, but i also think you must have something that makes it work :) Jan 25 17:37:39 ogra_, could well be Jan 25 17:37:47 yes, so I should not just wipe and reinstall Jan 25 17:37:53 I may have a gem here somewhere Jan 25 17:37:54 :) Jan 25 17:37:55 we should consult diwic again Jan 25 17:38:09 I've built an X-compatible kernel. I've been able to get Zygote, Surfaceflinger, Media, and DRM stopped, then chroot into Ubuntu, and start X. Jan 25 17:38:35 My final goal is to get a working native, zero-Android solution. Jan 25 17:38:50 Kernel source is https://github.com/Thrive-Hackers/tostab3-gnu-linux-kernel Jan 25 17:39:33 ok, indeed it now works with the stock kernel Jan 25 17:39:37 sigh Jan 25 17:39:45 my nexus just got fixed and I don't know how Jan 25 17:40:03 In the meantime, I'm trying to esssentially shut down Android and shut down Ubuntu. Jan 25 17:40:11 both bohdi and plasma have sound working without suspend, but I don't see jeff here right now :/ Jan 25 17:40:11 *start up Ubuntu Jan 25 17:41:35 * janimo wonders whether bodhi and plasma are applications or people Jan 25 17:41:44 distributions) Jan 25 17:42:19 bohdi is based on debian and plasma active on MER (it is "kde on tablet" project), but both use ubuntu's kernel Jan 25 17:43:19 Still, if someone does want to try remoting in, I'm willing to. Jan 25 17:47:50 Almost in... Jan 25 17:54:36 Hmmm... WiFi module isn't loaded. Jan 25 17:57:50 Okay, this is new... X is segfaulting. Jan 25 18:00:56 Wall of text coming in... Jan 25 18:01:00 root@localhost:/# startx Jan 25 18:01:00 startx Jan 25 18:01:00 xauth: error in locking authority file /data/.Xauthority Jan 25 18:01:00 xauth: error in locking authority file /data/.Xauthority Jan 25 18:01:00 X.Org X Server 1.11.3 Jan 25 18:01:01 Release Date: 2011-12-16 Jan 25 18:01:02 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Jan 25 18:01:04 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.38-1209-omap4 armv7l Ubuntu Jan 25 18:01:07 Current Operating System: Linux localhost 2.6.39.4-gnu-v0.01-g49f5e55-dirty #6 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 24 18:24:20 MST 2013 armv7l Jan 25 18:01:09 Build Date: 05 April 2012 02:47:41AM Jan 25 18:01:11 xorg-server 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support) Jan 25 18:01:13 Current version of pixman: 0.24.4 Jan 25 18:01:15 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org Jan 25 18:01:18 to make sure that you have the latest version. Jan 25 18:01:20 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, Jan 25 18:01:22 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, Jan 25 18:01:24 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. Jan 25 18:01:26 (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jan 25 09:59:34 2013 Jan 25 18:01:29 (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" Jan 25 18:01:31 Backtrace: Jan 25 18:01:33 Segmentation fault at address 0x4 Jan 25 18:01:35 Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting Jan 25 18:01:38 Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support Jan 25 18:01:40 at http://wiki.x.org Jan 25 18:01:42 for help. Jan 25 18:01:44 Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. Jan 25 18:01:46 ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log Jan 25 18:01:48 Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. Jan 25 18:01:51 xinit: giving up Jan 25 18:01:53 xinit: unable to connect to X server: No such file or directory Jan 25 18:01:55 xinit: server error Jan 25 18:01:57 xauth: error in locking authority file /data/.Xauthority Jan 25 18:02:00 root@localhost:/# Jan 25 18:08:00 Ouehy..... I'm on 2.6.39..... Jan 25 18:13:31 Might that be what's happening? Jan 25 18:20:17 Well, anyone know how to set up a initfs properly, and the proper cmdline? Jan 25 18:23:10 I should probably mention that I was using http://blog.rot13.org/2012/08/x11-running-on-nook-color-without-android-stack.html as a basis for a lot of what I was doing... Jan 25 18:33:38 ogra_: hmm, any idea why modem-manager in raring takes over /dev/ttyACM0 when I connect my nexus7 to my raring laptop? Jan 25 18:34:33 nope, thats a qerustion for cyphermox i think, we noticed other modemmanager issues as well, might be the same bug, not sure Jan 25 18:34:39 *question even Jan 25 18:37:12 ah, it apparently opens the port several times and takes a long time to probe it, but eventually lets go Jan 25 18:37:23 yeah, it sends AT commands Jan 25 18:37:34 seems it does that for the serial gadget connection too Jan 25 18:37:44 which can confuse getty a bit Jan 25 18:38:19 slangasek, btw, make sure to upgrade to the latest, there were a ton of fixes this week Jan 25 18:38:34 this was installed yesterdy Jan 25 18:38:48 well, we didnt have images for the whole week :) Jan 25 18:39:12 we did yesterday Jan 25 18:39:27 oh, i missed that, only saw that todays failed Jan 25 18:39:58 perfect then :) Jan 25 18:50:18 * ogra_ goes for dinner Jan 25 18:55:43 Yep. My audio device is tegra8903. Perfect sound in Ubuntu. Jan 26 00:14:49 Hello! Jan 26 00:14:54 Hello? Jan 26 00:36:30 Is there any device that is similar enough to the Nexus 7 that Ubuntu will run on it using the same image/install instructions? Jan 26 01:01:56 hola anyone here have experience with motion? I have a webcam hooked up to a beaglebone and I want to record jpeg snapshots to the disk. I do not want to stream Jan 26 01:41:47 jpastore IIRC motion has a great man page Jan 26 01:53:35 cobalt60-ac100: yea the man pages weren't isntalled. thanks. I'll google. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 26 02:59:59 2013