**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 14 03:00:00 2013 Feb 14 07:53:51 good morning Feb 14 08:17:58 ogra_, good morning, do you know anything about the status of virtualized ppas for arm? Feb 14 08:18:08 ogra_, I mean, will they ever arrive? Feb 14 08:22:32 diwic, thats in use since a while Feb 14 08:23:03 if you have a PPA the needs to build arm, you can contact the LP people and have them enable it Feb 14 08:23:19 ogra_, does that mean we can have arm ppa for non-canonical people? Feb 14 08:23:30 your package should build in a sane time though, nothing that builds several days is allowed etc Feb 14 08:23:36 yes Feb 14 08:23:43 \o/ Feb 14 08:23:44 there was a mail about that Feb 14 08:23:53 about two months ago or so Feb 14 08:23:55 nice Feb 14 08:24:02 about time :p Feb 14 08:25:38 ogra_, what list? Feb 14 08:25:59 either u-devel or u-devel-discuss Feb 14 08:26:16 * ogra_ forgot which one Feb 14 08:27:06 ogra_, looking at both but cannot find it Feb 14 08:27:53 ogra_, maybe they don't have "arm" or "ppa" in the subject line Feb 14 08:28:03 well, ask in #launchpad, i'm sure they can point you to it (or just enable arm for you) Feb 14 08:28:18 i cant find it either Feb 14 08:29:02 what are you looking for? Feb 14 08:29:34 ppas build for armhf (raring drops armel, so not sure about that) Feb 14 08:29:52 ogra_, https://dev.launchpad.net/CommunityARMBuilds Feb 14 08:30:31 yeah, that was in the mail too Feb 14 08:30:34 great Feb 14 08:30:47 * ogra_ bookmarks for the next person asking :) Feb 14 08:33:05 that page should mention armel vs armhf Feb 14 08:33:49 why ? armel is dead Feb 14 08:34:04 ok your right Feb 14 08:34:13 it wasnt supported in the last LTS Feb 14 08:34:26 (it was "just there" though) Feb 14 08:34:27 ogra_, it was release with last LTS Feb 14 08:34:34 but yeah, it was armv7 Feb 14 08:34:35 nope Feb 14 08:34:42 and nope Feb 14 08:34:43 quantal was armv5 Feb 14 08:34:55 but precise armel was armv7 Feb 14 08:34:59 precise armel is v5 Feb 14 08:35:09 but was never released as supported arch Feb 14 08:35:21 fedora is dropping armv5 too Feb 14 08:35:25 (or v6, dont remember exactly, but not v7) Feb 14 08:35:36 no, precise is armv7 Feb 14 08:35:38 everyone but debian is dropping it Feb 14 08:35:46 for armel Feb 14 08:36:05 i'm pretty sure we switched it to v6 Feb 14 08:36:15 ld.gold is broken upstream for armv5, i fixed it and ian says its good, but its not comitted Feb 14 08:36:26 for quantal AFAIK Feb 14 08:36:37 but anyways that is past Feb 14 08:36:53 right, we havent supported armel in a while Feb 14 08:37:12 11.10 was the last one we claimed to support Feb 14 08:37:55 everything after that, while armel was still existsing, had no support for it Feb 14 08:38:18 "best effort community support" :) Feb 14 08:51:02 so, are the arm-linux-gnueabi and arm-linux-gnueabihf toolchains actually differn't in terms of what they target (besides default options)? Feb 14 08:51:26 this is a topic that has confused me Feb 14 08:51:53 or is it just that the multi-arch paths and linker paths are hard coded into them? Feb 14 08:52:18 wait, its the ABI Feb 14 08:52:23 one builds armel the other armhf Feb 14 08:52:49 would it really add much size to the binary to support both abi's with one compiler? Feb 14 08:54:35 dunno, ask hrw Feb 14 08:54:41 he maintains the cross compilers Feb 14 08:55:49 I maintained Feb 14 08:56:32 oh, i thought you still do it as spare time thing Feb 14 08:56:48 no, doko kind of took over Feb 14 08:58:33 ok, 320GB hdd moved to usb3 case. time for cabling Feb 14 08:59:02 chromebook -> usb3 hub -> (usb3 case -> sata hdd) + usb-ethernet Feb 14 09:03:26 one thing to buy during linaro connect - usb3 cables Feb 14 09:07:47 76MB/s sounds much better than 23MB/s Feb 14 09:08:02 arent the cables the same ? Feb 14 09:08:22 * ogra_ doesnt need special cables to get the full throughput out of his 3.0 devices Feb 14 09:08:42 ogra_: usb3 cables differ from usb2 cables Feb 14 09:09:02 other connectors (especially at device side) Feb 14 09:09:24 and I want to buy longer A-B, A-microusb, A-A extenders Feb 14 09:11:43 now usb harddrive is faster than internal emmc Feb 14 09:24:33 ogra_, usb3.0 is electrically different from usb2 Feb 14 09:25:48 lilstevie, well, then it at least behaves great in compatibility mode :) Feb 14 09:26:17 * ogra_ never saw any issues due to having 2.0 cables here, all my disks reach their tech specs Feb 14 09:28:00 ogra_, heh Feb 14 09:38:25 real 21m38.431s Feb 14 09:38:32 nice time for rebuilding kernel Feb 14 09:38:54 ogra_: while their tech specs are 30MB/s? Feb 14 09:50:30 flashing nexus7 fails here, fastboot flash userdata just says "error: cannot load raring...img" Feb 14 09:50:39 even when done manually Feb 14 09:50:46 current image Feb 14 10:04:04 hrw, more like 70-100MB/s Feb 14 10:09:42 ogra_: and you try to say that you get this on usb2 cables? Feb 14 10:22:04 same issue with yesterdays image.. Feb 14 10:26:38 how can i debug EGL_NOT_INITIALIZED with mali non-free graphics? Feb 14 10:27:38 scientes: which device? Feb 14 10:27:47 chromebook samsung arm Feb 14 10:28:05 scientes: which kernel you have? Feb 14 10:28:05 i can't get EGL/GLESv2 to work Feb 14 10:28:21 chromeos git tip 3.4 Feb 14 10:28:23 scientes: and you do not know about https://launchpad.net/~chromebook-arm/ as well? Feb 14 10:28:27 like rebuilt today Feb 14 10:28:29 * ogra_ has it working ... including flash in chromium Feb 14 10:28:29 scientes: which branch Feb 14 10:28:32 hrw, yes i do Feb 14 10:28:35 chromeos-3.4 Feb 14 10:28:40 use R25 Feb 14 10:28:55 like I did in PPA of that LP project Feb 14 10:29:16 i independantly packages vboot_reference Feb 14 10:29:31 fragmentation happens Feb 14 10:29:45 our vboot-utils got stuck in NEW queue in Debian Feb 14 10:30:05 the printf() patch is wrong Feb 14 10:30:09 in yours Feb 14 10:30:16 patches are welcome? Feb 14 10:30:35 http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/vboot-utils.git;a=summary Feb 14 10:30:42 hrw, http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/vboot_reference.git Feb 14 10:32:00 scientes: "git rebase --help" please Feb 14 10:32:39 yeah i can audit your packaging and pull in what i did Feb 14 10:33:52 your copyright file looks much better Feb 14 10:35:57 licencecheck tool is useful Feb 14 10:37:45 have you tried R26? Feb 14 10:38:45 no Feb 14 10:38:59 too many other things to do Feb 14 10:39:23 ok i will Feb 14 10:39:39 300K diff compared to r25 Feb 14 10:39:46 not too much Feb 14 10:40:24 well wondering why chromeos-3.4 doesn't work... Feb 14 10:40:28 also suspend is flaky Feb 14 10:41:23 scientes: if you have lot of time then feel free to find out. if not: R25 Feb 14 12:02:44 wow! my fresh 13.04 installation just booted on chromebook Feb 14 12:05:41 nice Feb 14 12:07:59 no wifi firmware Feb 14 12:08:15 I think that will have to take it from marvell repo and send to linux-firmware repo Feb 14 12:32:11 ok, sent. I hope that dwmw2 will accept ;D Feb 14 13:21:17 http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2013/02/14/how-to-install-ubuntu-13-04-on-chromebook/ Feb 14 13:22:28 hrw, fail ... not intrested in using SDs :P Feb 14 13:23:21 ogra_: I do not plan to destroy my working 13.04 installation which I have on internal ;d Feb 14 13:23:39 pfft, do it for the community ! Feb 14 13:24:09 I will check how to upgrade chrubuntu to 13.04 on weekend Feb 14 13:24:12 but also on sd Feb 14 13:24:21 hrw, i assume to just use your kernel i just need to use all these commands for mmcblk0p1 instead oof 1p1 ? Feb 14 13:24:34 yes Feb 14 13:24:37 ok Feb 14 13:24:40 moment Feb 14 13:24:53 i dont want to destroy my install either ... but want to use your kernel Feb 14 13:24:58 s/mmcblk1p1/KERN-x/ Feb 14 13:25:03 ok Feb 14 13:25:11 * ogra_ will try on the weekend Feb 14 13:25:20 you need to check which KERN-[ABC] you use and replace kernel in it Feb 14 13:25:28 i want a kernel with zram Feb 14 13:25:37 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1650688/ Feb 14 13:25:44 it is my do-a-kernel.sh Feb 14 13:26:05 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1650692/ - write-a-kernel.sh Feb 14 13:26:14 dude ! Feb 14 13:26:21 that should be a flash-kernel patch ! Feb 14 13:26:55 is flash-kernel able to identify board in other way than /proc/cpuinfo? Feb 14 13:27:09 Hardware : SAMSUNG EXYNOS5 (Flattened Device Tree) Feb 14 13:27:13 how do you identify it ? Feb 14 13:27:24 that's chromebook, probably also nexus10, maybe andale Feb 14 13:28:12 that kind of definitions are going to become really common with device tree enabled platforms Feb 14 13:29:08 exactly Feb 14 13:29:31 ogra_: and how flash-kernel have to guess where I keep kernel? Feb 14 13:29:48 z`z`s/guess/detect/ Feb 14 13:29:50 :) Feb 14 13:30:23 /dev/mmcblk0p{2,4,6} or /dev/mmcblk1p1 or maybe I use U-Boot in KERN-C and load kernel from /boot/uImage Feb 14 13:30:44 so many options Feb 14 13:31:07 well, eventually we should add something to f-k Feb 14 13:31:18 feel free - you got code Feb 14 13:31:33 yeah, but i'm using the device Feb 14 13:31:37 do not forget to add dependencies on cgpt and vboot-utils which are stuck in NEW in Debian Feb 14 13:31:57 yeah, we'll have to wait anyway Feb 14 13:32:18 we have 3 chromebook packages in NEW in Ubuntu Feb 14 13:32:33 still ? Feb 14 13:32:36 slackers ! Feb 14 13:35:21 I can wait - they are also in PPA :D Feb 14 20:19:12 what are some of your favorite applications that you run on ubuntu-arm ? Feb 14 20:19:46 the same i run on ubuntu x86 Feb 14 20:25:20 I don't have favourites: I love all my software equally. Feb 14 20:38:47 drizzy: nagios, dhcp, dns :) Feb 14 20:39:15 basic services are your favorite apps darkfaded? Feb 14 20:39:20 infinity: that's cute Feb 14 20:40:06 drizzy: for the ubuntu/arm: yes - because it silently does its job Feb 14 20:40:28 i understand Feb 14 20:40:29 and the power consumption is so low that i'll never need to think about it again Feb 14 20:40:30 :) Feb 14 20:41:44 what will / are you running on it? Feb 14 20:51:19 i'm running all the standard daemons Feb 14 20:51:26 but i also run xchat and audacious on it Feb 14 20:51:34 i installed gimp Feb 14 23:00:00 bootloader update broke kexec-hardboot on Nexus 7, anybody has any idea what might be wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/1654119/ ? Feb 14 23:12:54 hm, looks like it just needs different --mem-min setting, the part of memory is probably erased during reboot or something Feb 14 23:34:46 argh! Feb 14 23:34:47 http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/02/12/new-android-4-2-2-feature-usb-debug-whitelist-prevents-adb-savvy-thieves-from-stealing-your-data-in-some-situations/ Feb 14 23:35:25 ..yeah :/ Feb 14 23:35:44 ogra_: https://gist.github.com/archon810/4772945/raw/c845a6282dbc2b55a6697c5e2ffe831263db3a86/Changelog_android-4.2.1_r1.2_android-4.2.2_r1.txt 4.2.2 details Feb 14 23:40:03 hmm, what does kernel cmdline parameter "vmalloc" do? Feb 14 23:42:20 it was changed from 128mb to 512mb in new n7 bootloader **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 15 02:59:58 2013