**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 15 02:59:58 2013 Feb 15 05:20:30 i need help with installing ubuntu on Nexus 7 Feb 15 05:21:07 after the Ubuntu logo comes up, the screen goes black and stays black Feb 15 05:21:08 I noticed that while it is flashing, one of the txt says "df: cannot read table of mounted file systems" Feb 15 05:21:19 not sure if that has anything to do with it Feb 15 05:22:52 anyone availible to help? Feb 15 05:24:36 isaias: Is this a recent image, like in the last day or so? If so, I believe there are some problems with the code that gets loaded after a fresh flash, i.e the stuff responsible for asking your language and other info etc. Feb 15 05:24:49 So in other words, I think things are currently broken. Feb 15 05:25:31 isaias: If you try an older image, say from 20120213 on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled, you may have more luck. Feb 15 05:25:50 The requested URL /daily-preinstalled, was not found on this server. Feb 15 05:26:04 Sorry, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/ Feb 15 05:26:07 nvm Feb 15 05:26:17 lol, i saw the comma after xD Feb 15 05:26:26 heh ok. Feb 15 05:27:02 wow a wild TheMuso appears Feb 15 05:27:21 I've been around, just not had reason to post in here. Feb 15 05:27:30 heh Feb 15 05:27:34 long time no chat :p Feb 15 05:27:38 Indeed. Feb 15 05:27:47 * lilstevie has been busy with another project Feb 15 05:28:04 Cool. Feb 15 05:29:11 * lilstevie heads off to the rugby Feb 15 05:29:21 Enjoy. Feb 15 05:29:26 will do Feb 15 05:44:39 TheMuso: Do I have to have the factory Nexus 7 installed? I have to put it in flash mode to manually install it Feb 15 05:44:48 to manually install ubuntu Feb 15 05:46:57 or by flash do they mean fastboot? Feb 15 05:47:04 which I think they do... Feb 15 05:47:19 maybe. im waiting on my device, lol Feb 15 05:48:14 Yes you need to boot the nexus into fastboot mode. Feb 15 05:49:26 terminal is after I ran $sudo fastboot flash boot /path/to/*.bootimg Feb 15 05:49:43 taking a while, which is why I'm asking, hoping this is normal Feb 15 05:50:39 Did you make sure fastboot could see your device fist? Feb 15 05:50:42 first Feb 15 05:50:57 yes. it could Feb 15 05:51:04 i deleted user data and stuff Feb 15 05:51:08 Hm ok. Feb 15 05:51:40 it shouldn't be waiting, should it? lol Feb 15 05:51:51 No. Feb 15 05:52:06 i probably did something xD Feb 15 05:52:08 If fastboot could see your device when you ran fastboot devices, then it should go straight ahead and do it. Feb 15 05:53:56 i see what i did wrong Feb 15 05:57:17 "mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p9 on /root failed: invalid argument" Feb 15 05:57:37 apperently its not rooted? Feb 15 05:58:09 maybe :P Feb 15 06:01:04 Did you oem-unlock the device? Feb 15 06:02:04 its unlocked Feb 15 06:05:34 i have no idea what I'm doing anymore xD Feb 15 06:43:48 where else can i get help? Feb 15 08:17:45 good morning **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 15 08:38:45 2013 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 15 08:40:19 2013 Feb 15 10:03:18 hello Feb 15 10:03:21 err Feb 15 10:04:14 there we go Feb 15 10:04:43 is someone available to help me/tell me what I'm doing wrong? Feb 15 10:05:10 I tried installing Ubuntu, the screen goes black after the Ubuntu boot logo comes up Feb 15 10:07:59 isaias, what hardware? Feb 15 10:09:07 im trying to install it on Nexus 7 Feb 15 10:14:30 isaias, we have had reports of that, rebooting it a few times sometimes resolved it Feb 15 10:14:38 it seems to be an install time issue mostly Feb 15 10:16:59 I cant even turn it off right now. i try and it reboots, but it wont start. it stays a black screen Feb 15 10:19:58 a mouse is nessisary, isnt it? Feb 15 10:20:35 if you're very patient you can manage w/o mouse, but you'll grow some grey hair :) Feb 15 10:30:54 rowing grey hair withh this not working, so i wouldnt mind waiting as long as its possible to set everything up without it,,,if i can get this to work Feb 15 10:38:38 i have it unlocked. am I supposed to root it? Feb 15 11:48:11 tjaalton, can we turn back bug 1068994 to not be "incomplete" so it doesnt auto-close Feb 15 11:48:12 Launchpad bug 1068994 in X.Org X server "button1 gets stuck after a while" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068994 Feb 15 11:48:51 ogra_: sure Feb 15 11:49:56 ogra_: I'm building e17 atm so that I should be able to reproduce it with the new xserver without tegra blob Feb 15 11:50:57 tjaalton, hmm doesnt raster have packages for that ? Feb 15 11:51:48 maybe, but I've pulled source packages from a ppa and building them as-is, seems to work so far Feb 15 11:52:04 k Feb 15 11:52:14 well, he isnt around to ask him anyway Feb 15 11:52:29 does he hang out here? Feb 15 11:52:40 or in general Feb 15 11:54:53 he hung out here the last months ... but rather randomly (and i think he lives in an asian TZ) Feb 15 11:55:09 ok Feb 15 12:53:17 anyone here know how to deal with problems when installing ubuntu on a Nexus 7? Mine screen goes black after the boot logo Feb 15 12:53:26 my screen* Feb 15 12:55:13 there is a bug in the images atm .... being worked on Feb 15 12:55:22 try again on the weekend Feb 15 13:08:20 aww, i just bought it yesterday :P Feb 15 13:09:44 sorry, i try my best but am still poking in the dark to find whats wrong Feb 15 13:10:13 thats alright. im just happy its finally possible Feb 15 13:10:56 so thank you :) Feb 15 13:11:02 :) Feb 15 13:38:48 ogra_: I'm any way I can help? I'm not so good at debugging or anything like that, at least not yet (still learning to programming). If you do find something I can do, I'd be more than happy to help. Feb 15 13:39:00 typo :p Feb 15 13:39:38 well, its pretty tricky to debug, you need to change the kernel cmdline to stop booting in the initramfs. then debug from there with an attached keyboard Feb 15 13:41:12 ha, ogra_ is here - new n7's bootloader changed vmalloc value in cmdline from 128mb to 512mb, any idea what it might affect? Feb 15 13:41:51 I want to learn all about that xD Feb 15 13:42:28 it may have broken plymouth (the Ubuntu with dots image does not show up), but I'm not sure it is just because of the bootloader Feb 15 13:42:32 Tassadar, nope, no idea Feb 15 13:42:43 I heard there are some bugs with the current images, any ETA on fix? Also, compatible with the recent 4.2.2 release? Feb 15 13:43:00 plymouth works fine here and i had no reports about it failing (yet) Feb 15 13:43:22 Walther, no ETA yet, i'm still digging Feb 15 13:43:49 mine shows the ubuntu with dots Feb 15 13:44:00 and too bad i don't have an OTG usb cable (just yet), would've been glad to help debugging Feb 15 13:44:31 is there any way I can look without touching anything? Feb 15 13:44:39 Oh, and btw, any merges going to happen with the Ubuntu Phone project? At least imho even Nexus7 could benefit from the phone-ui as demoed by Mark Feb 15 13:45:15 the code i mean Feb 15 13:45:31 or anything Feb 15 13:46:07 ...aaaand just slightly related, I've not yet installed any version of ubuntu on my nexus, but i've been using it for quite some time already and I've heard unlocking the bootloader will wipe all data - what, if such exists, is a good way of BUpping and restoring everything to the stock jelly bean install? Feb 15 13:46:22 isaias, press the volume button ... that shows the boot messages Feb 15 13:46:22 I mean, I want to dualboot, at least for now Feb 15 13:46:29 (not that it would help you much) Feb 15 13:46:54 Walther, if you want to dualboot you need to use the unsupported image from xda developers Feb 15 13:47:21 is the whole image a custom build, or just a custom bootloader / rom selector? Feb 15 13:47:58 wouldn't it be possible to have the image be ..more generic, and support dualbooting out-of-the-box, via some sort of merge between current image and the xda developers thingy Feb 15 13:48:04 are you talking about nexus 7? Feb 15 13:48:15 yup Feb 15 13:48:23 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403 Feb 15 13:48:31 and I'm using ubuntu daily images Feb 15 13:48:37 yes, i know that thread Feb 15 13:48:48 Walther, the motivation goes actually in the other direction ... Feb 15 13:48:49 ogra_ just sounded like he was implying "unofficial *images*" Feb 15 13:48:57 ogra_: Oh, hmm? Feb 15 13:49:01 using the whole disk and completely replacing android Feb 15 13:50:01 of course that works for Canonical's interests, i can see that. Just not very user-friendly for beta testers / kinda makes the entry step a bit steep Feb 15 13:51:38 well, we need reliable data so the image has to function as any other ubuntu image ... with dual boot you have to jump thopugh hoops that can blur the debugging data Feb 15 13:51:56 (userspace hacks etc) Feb 15 13:52:20 Anyway, I repeat my earlier question, any thoughts on whether there will be merges between the phone version and nexus build? At least imho it would be really nice to get parts of the phone ui as demoed by Mark at CES Feb 15 13:53:07 while having dualboot is great and i muchly appreciate Tassadar's work, for serious development you should use the official image ... if you just want to use ubuntu as enduser, go with the dualboot one Feb 15 13:53:13 ogra_: mmh, but Ubuntu supports dualbooting on desktops/laptops as well ;) (don't take it too personally, just that in my opinion official dualboot support would be really nice, even if the ROM manager / bootloader would be unofficial) Feb 15 13:53:55 so just to clarify - are the dualboot things actually different, separate *images* or just a matter of applying a separate bootloader? Feb 15 13:54:10 that's just a question i want to have answered in a very distilled form Feb 15 13:54:25 MultiROM is using official ubuntu daily images Feb 15 13:54:55 the problem with multi-booting on arm devices is that we usually can't change bootloader, so many hacks are needed Feb 15 13:55:02 Tassadar, didnt you say you had to change filesystems and apply some userspace changes ? Feb 15 13:55:08 or was that just an early image Feb 15 13:55:19 heck, on nexus 7, you can't event change partition layout Feb 15 13:55:59 in any case if we would provide dualboot, we would do it via the mechanism we already have (wubi) and avoid kernel or userspace changes Feb 15 13:56:22 I take the image, manually extract root.tar.gz from it, extract root.tar.gz to some folder in /sdcard, apply this patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1089038 and remove ac100-installer and disable flash-kernel Feb 15 13:56:22 Ubuntu bug 1089038 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "[PATCH] Add support for booting from subdirectory in root" [Undecided,Confirmed] Feb 15 13:56:23 but thats out of discussion atm the images are as they are and wont change for now Feb 15 13:57:08 thank's to kexec, I don't have to change that much, which I am happy for Feb 15 13:57:18 Walther, phone images are developed elsewhere, cccant say much about merging stuff from them in yet Feb 15 13:57:55 (and that patch is not even needed if I want to boot from .img file) Feb 15 13:59:27 ogra_: I would *greatly* appreciate if you devs would collaborate Feb 15 13:59:35 and would be extremely glad to help with that Feb 15 13:59:55 as I don't have and don't currently plan to get a nexus 4 or other compatible smartphone Feb 15 13:59:57 Walther, the nexus7 image isnt for endusers and has a very very specific purpose Feb 15 14:00:11 for which it currently works ... Feb 15 14:00:15 ogra_: Oh? Feb 15 14:00:28 is the very very specific purpose "internal testing" or what :P Feb 15 14:00:47 or "you'll see it announced later" :P Feb 15 14:01:19 its to have a device all involved devs use to reduce the footprint of unity Feb 15 14:01:31 and thats the current sole purpose Feb 15 14:01:47 aha Feb 15 14:01:50 not bad Feb 15 14:01:58 (and pretty fruitful, we managed to shove off over 200M fRAM usage from the idling desktop) Feb 15 14:02:11 * Walther slowclaps Feb 15 14:02:15 (390 vs >600M) Feb 15 14:02:20 that's *big* Feb 15 14:02:32 i hope we get down to around 256M Feb 15 14:02:45 yes, it is, and all arches benefit from it Feb 15 14:02:46 sounds like a good ballpark goal Feb 15 14:03:03 we could have taken a small x86 device instead of the nexus if that would have been convenient Feb 15 14:03:19 that makes me even more hopeful then that the actual "phone" images will supprot nexus 7 as well as a device Feb 15 14:03:27 so our focus is totally not on the device or on making it shine for endusers atm Feb 15 14:03:35 understood Feb 15 14:03:46 but to have a common limited base for everyone Feb 15 14:03:59 then I just have to try to poke the -phone developers and hope they'll make it usable for the nexus 7 Feb 15 14:05:01 and yeah, it actually raises my hopes as if nexus7 project was actually being developed for endusers, it could have been harder to convince phone devs to make the nexus7 supported as "it already has an image" etc Feb 15 14:06:00 well, you can count on the fact that by 14.04 (as announced and planned since years) there will be a nexus7 image for endusers :) Feb 15 14:06:17 its just not the current focus Feb 15 14:07:44 heh Feb 15 14:08:06 i'm still hoping very strongly that the nexus7 enduser image will contain the phone ui Feb 15 14:08:18 and perhaps have the desktop view behind a launcher, a la "ubuntu for android" Feb 15 14:08:35 might be, who knows ... time will tell ... there isnt any phone UI in the ubuntu archive yet Feb 15 14:08:56 I can still rewatch the engadget hands on with Mark and the phone and drool over the ui, it's just *so damn slick* Feb 15 14:09:03 (and the official images only contain components from the archive) Feb 15 14:09:11 yeah Feb 15 14:09:18 it's still a big, big WiP Feb 15 14:09:35 * ogra_ personally hopes there will be a nexus4 image soon :) Feb 15 14:10:03 but first of alll there needs to be a release of the code ... which will happen end of the month Feb 15 14:10:08 and a Nokia N9 image :P Feb 15 14:10:15 yup Feb 15 14:10:17 heh Feb 15 14:10:32 btw, do you know how much of it will be open and how much will be closed Feb 15 14:10:45 all should be open afaiik Feb 15 14:10:52 liek ubuntu ... Feb 15 14:11:02 and if there is going to be "make this image support n devices and make a pull request" or "make your unofficial ports if you want" Feb 15 14:11:08 you surely have something equivalent to the nvidia drivers Feb 15 14:11:43 that would certainly be nice, i mean, so far I've got the impression that there would be a nasty bit of "we actually want to work closely with OEMs this time" and bullshit Feb 15 14:12:24 that will surely happen too once there are OEMs Feb 15 14:12:35 mm Feb 15 14:13:00 But I really don't want to see what happened with android to happen with ubuntu Feb 15 14:13:11 a bucketload of unofficial ports to specific devices Feb 15 14:13:27 instead of centralized, "let's add support for this device as well" Feb 15 14:13:54 Of course with android it might be a bit more understandable ...but it still doesn't make it right Feb 15 14:15:18 we'll see, i doubt thats something you can massively influence if you provide your stuff in the open Feb 15 14:15:46 if people want to build their own thing based on it (and add a touchwiz ui on top) you cant really stop them Feb 15 14:16:36 * Tassadar will have nightmares about Ubuntu Phone with touchwiz Feb 15 14:16:44 lol Feb 15 14:16:51 yeah, was a mean example Feb 15 14:21:27 :D Feb 15 14:21:51 But yeah, i would definitely like an approach similar to the genkernel Feb 15 14:22:09 stuff gets merged, and it supports n+1 devices and platforms Feb 15 14:22:58 imagine if you had to have separate ports for asus/ibm/dell/samsung/whatnot desktops and laptops... Feb 15 14:40:47 what language does this ubuntu use? Feb 15 14:41:31 lots of languages Feb 15 15:33:01 what language is this version of ubuntu written in? Feb 15 15:33:57 many :) Feb 15 15:34:18 Objective-C? :P Feb 15 15:34:19 ubuntu is a distribution of software written by many different people Feb 15 15:34:34 each developer has his own preference Feb 15 15:35:03 ubuntu-phone is mainly QML and Java Feb 15 15:35:04 many write stuff in C, some desktop stuff is in vala, there is shell, python, perl and many others Feb 15 15:35:08 no Feb 15 15:35:17 thats what they told me over there, lol Feb 15 15:35:20 ubuntu phone uses QML for the UI apps Feb 15 15:35:23 * Tassadar imagines packages written in brainfuck Feb 15 15:35:41 got it xD Feb 15 15:35:47 the system underneath is still ubuntu, so the "many" applies there tooo Feb 15 15:36:50 for native UI apps on the phone you will use QML and C++ (OML for the visible stuff an app has, C++ for all the backend stuff thats not visible to he user) Feb 15 15:37:20 beyond that you can create HTML5 apps in HTML and javascript (note, not java) Feb 15 15:37:41 which are portable to other systems like android etc Feb 15 15:54:37 ogra_: really nice to know :D Feb 15 15:55:02 im learning C++, would hate not being able to add stuff to ubuntu phone, lol Feb 15 15:55:25 keep up the great work! ^_^ Feb 15 15:56:41 we will :) Feb 15 16:42:44 I know this is off topic, so feel free to ignore the question, but does anyone know any good books on C++? or on Operating systems? Feb 15 16:43:09 by operating system, i mean Unix, terminal, etc Feb 15 16:51:33 isaias: anything by Oreilly Feb 15 16:51:46 ++ Feb 15 16:51:59 isaias: http://oreilly.com/ Feb 15 16:52:11 easilly identified by the animal picture on the covers Feb 15 16:53:27 which makes me wonder where my In a Nutshell book actually went Feb 15 16:53:48 I want to disable all non-armhf kernel builds for my kernel package Feb 15 16:53:53 any hints how to do this? Feb 15 16:54:09 (the right way (C) of course) Feb 15 16:54:29 donate all your non armhf hardware to me ;) Feb 15 16:54:32 marvin24, i guess the #ubuntu-kernel channel is better suited Feb 15 16:54:41 ask apw Feb 15 16:54:44 oh, he's here too Feb 15 16:55:08 and no answer from ubuntu-kernel last time I ask Feb 15 16:56:29 apw: ^ Feb 15 16:58:30 marvin24, building it where and how Feb 15 16:58:41 apw, PPA Feb 15 16:59:09 yes, launchpad always start building the tegra kernel on i386/x86_64 Feb 15 16:59:10 apw, cyrrently it attempts all arches and indeed fails Feb 15 16:59:12 clear out the flavours= lines in the rules.d/*.mk for the arches you arn't interested Feb 15 16:59:49 if you have none of those, then it is likely only building nothing, ie the 'all' packages for that arch Feb 15 16:59:53 apw: what mean delete all files there except armhf.mk Feb 15 17:00:21 marvin24, no remove the flavour names from the flavours= lines in .mk for all other arches Feb 15 17:00:35 and then it should build anything on those arches Feb 15 17:01:00 you may still then need to change Architecture: all in your control.stub.in to prevent launchpad trying and not having anything to do on all the other arches Feb 15 17:01:17 changing it to Architecture: armhf or whatever Feb 15 17:03:07 apw: ok, will try - thanks! Feb 15 20:08:16 hey, I know there is a problem with the img, but would there happen to be an older img I could try out while this one gets fixed? Feb 15 20:45:34 isaias: not that I have working image, but what's the problem with it - it shows only black screen, right? Feb 15 20:57:36 Tassadar, this happens to me to on nexus 7. is there any fix for that? Feb 15 20:58:32 I'm just making sure that I didn't break it. I'm sure it will be fixed soon, we just have to be patient **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 16 01:22:36 2013 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 16 03:02:18 2013 Feb 16 09:22:50 * Snark wonders about ubuntu on asus tf[37]00t Feb 16 10:43:29 good morning :) Feb 16 11:06:07 wondering is there still a pre-installed image for omap4 in 13.04 Feb 16 14:11:26 Hi Feb 16 14:11:38 Have HTC Desire HD, can I install ubuntu on it? Feb 16 14:55:47 ogra_, ping Feb 16 14:55:57 yes ? Feb 16 14:56:35 ogra_, some time ago I think I heard that you guys wanted a testcase in the ISO QA Tracker right? Feb 16 14:57:57 ogra_, I mean for Nexus 7 Feb 16 14:58:16 * smartboyhw clearly has missed the most important info:P Feb 16 14:58:19 yes i know what you mean, can we discuss that not on a weekend ? Feb 16 14:58:47 ogra_, LOL sorry:P Just that I am reporting a bug so the testcase admins team can work on it. Sorry for disrupting your weekend:) Feb 16 14:59:33 no worries, lets disucss it next week if also people that can add it are around in -release Feb 16 14:59:58 ogra_, k Feb 16 15:00:01 *ok Feb 16 15:02:14 is there a list of recent ARM devices with information on their support? I was wondering about asus tf300t and tf700t this morning, livingdaylight is wondering about htc desire hd... Feb 16 15:49:17 hello again Feb 16 22:44:24 isaias_: ping Feb 16 23:09:41 http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2013/02/16/how-to-update-chrubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-13-04/ for those stuck with 12.04 on chromebook Feb 16 23:12:39 hrw: are you on ubuntu planet? Feb 16 23:13:09 yes Feb 16 23:13:18 ok. Feb 16 23:13:37 xnox: and it landed there as well Feb 16 23:14:59 time to bed Feb 16 23:26:38 hrw, nice Feb 16 23:26:46 i've been stuck as x doesn't come up with precise Feb 16 23:26:53 *with raring or quantal Feb 16 23:27:54 for me all works as it is in blog post Feb 16 23:28:29 I made no edits to rootfs other than those described (do not count installation of openssh-server to login remotely) Feb 16 23:59:02 is anyone else getting a black screen on boot into 13.04 on nexus7? Feb 17 00:00:13 yes Feb 17 00:00:21 dickmacinnis: are you dual-booting it? Feb 17 00:01:29 I was, and having noticed that others doing so were getting this bug, I did a wipe and fresh install via the official installer. With the fresh install, I saw the plymouth splash for a little longer, but I get the same end result. Feb 17 00:02:21 the image is broken. It happens, this is not stable release after all. I'm sure it will be fixed soon. Feb 17 00:03:16 do you want some older working image? Feb 17 00:04:12 Tassadar: yes, that would be fantastic. I just got my nexus7 yesterday, and can't find an older build anywhere. Feb 17 00:04:24 https://www.dropbox.com/s/e8rw999fkcglie9/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img Feb 17 00:04:29 from somebody on XDA Feb 17 00:04:58 Tassadar: thanks so much! Downloading right now. Feb 17 00:08:25 well, thank you for assuring me that it's the image and not multirom) Feb 17 01:02:23 hi, so I've just flashed my Nexus 7 using the latest image, however the screen goes black after "localhost login: [Powering wi-fi]". It's stuck for more than 30 minutes now. Any thoughts? Feb 17 01:02:49 [01:02] the image is broken. It happens, this is not stable release after all. I'm sure it will be fixed soon. Feb 17 01:03:01 do you want some older working image? Feb 17 01:03:56 Tassadar: sure i do, thanks Feb 17 01:04:01 https://www.dropbox.com/s/e8rw999fkcglie9/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img Feb 17 01:04:26 from someone on XDA, it's a bit old, so apt-get dist-upgrade will take long if you'll Feb 17 01:06:49 ok thanks, i was following this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation Feb 17 01:07:17 now i should do like on manual install? Feb 17 01:07:42 yeah Feb 17 01:08:04 this is the fastboot image which you would install in step 1 of manual installation Feb 17 01:08:07 *download Feb 17 01:09:13 ok thanks, i'll give it a try Feb 17 01:30:41 what bootimg should i use? Feb 17 01:31:29 hmm, you can use the one from daily build Feb 17 01:34:09 thanks, i'll try Feb 17 01:39:43 great, it's stuck at flashing bootimg -.- Feb 17 01:40:09 hello Feb 17 01:40:21 hi Feb 17 01:40:28 how are things comming along with the new img? :) Feb 17 01:40:32 mornin' Feb 17 01:40:39 evenin' Feb 17 01:41:04 don't know, but I have old image if you wanna) Feb 17 01:41:12 what's the english word for being almost 2 am? Feb 17 01:41:28 dunno, I used morning) Feb 17 01:41:36 morning is good xD Feb 17 01:41:40 its almost 10 here Feb 17 01:41:45 pm Feb 17 01:42:07 an old image would be amazing. i bought the nexus 7, and havent been able to use it, lol Feb 17 01:42:12 https://www.dropbox.com/s/e8rw999fkcglie9/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img Feb 17 01:42:34 * Tassadar hopes that dropbox account won't get banned because of too many downloads) Feb 17 01:42:39 i'm trying to flash that one, im stuck for 10min at flashing bootimg tho Feb 17 01:42:58 it's stuck, just....reboot nexus and try again Feb 17 01:43:13 it shouldn't break anything, it's just boot image Feb 17 01:43:55 is this one boot or userdata? Feb 17 01:44:02 userdata Feb 17 01:44:07 thank you :D Feb 17 01:44:18 boot from current daily should/could work okay Feb 17 01:44:58 retrying, i'm afraid to waste 300€ hence didnt reboot :P Feb 17 01:45:52 ok, took 1 second now Feb 17 01:46:01 yeah, that's how it should be) Feb 17 01:46:51 i can just use the new boot, and the userdata you sent me, right? Feb 17 01:46:57 ok, lol Feb 17 01:59:59 it worked :) Feb 17 02:00:06 will i need to learn a specific language to modify (add a usable program/app) for the tablet when the final product come out? or will it be more like PC where i can use whatever? Feb 17 02:00:55 what I mean is, with ubuntu phone, they're telling me I have to learn QML Feb 17 02:01:12 well, we still don't really know what the "final" product is in case of Nexus 7 Feb 17 02:01:35 will I be able to run a compiler? lol Feb 17 02:01:39 yes Feb 17 02:01:45 well Feb 17 02:01:49 I have no idea Feb 17 02:01:53 now you can :D Feb 17 02:02:01 then I'm happy :) Feb 17 02:02:31 Ubuntu phone apps will be using c++ and QML Feb 17 02:02:33 damn, keyboard doesn't show up lol and i still don't have my usb otg adapter Feb 17 02:02:57 joao: are in the "installation wizard"? try to reboot it Feb 17 02:02:58 i'm working on my C++, but they're telling me that for now, apps will only be in QML Feb 17 02:03:09 QML is the UI Feb 17 02:03:21 yes, trying to put my name and stuff, i'll reboot Feb 17 02:03:37 it's more like "scripting language" Feb 17 02:04:28 you are not expected to say, render a web page in that language Feb 17 02:04:51 i never heard of QML. fairly new to programming, lol Feb 17 02:05:02 but, for example simple actions like "User toggles checkbox -> button gets enabled/disabled" should be in there Feb 17 02:05:16 ok Feb 17 02:05:35 it looks much better to me than Android and "Java", that's for sure) Feb 17 02:05:37 isnt there a way to reboot while on the "installation wizard" other than "brute force" ? Feb 17 02:05:52 main reason I chose C++ is because I want to do more with my Ubuntu. If Ubuntu-Phone doesnt support apps in C++, it will be kind of dissapointing Feb 17 02:06:18 joao: I think not, because your username/password is not yet created, so you can't even log in to console Feb 17 02:07:38 it will support C++ afaik Feb 17 02:07:43 http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/app-ecosystem Feb 17 02:07:45 I just spent whole day trying to write "driver" for USB ACM device using Android USB API, and it's still not working as I would image :/ Feb 17 02:08:32 Tassadar, i believe people do android drier development on ubuntu and the like Feb 17 02:09:10 I'm sorry, what? ubuntu like channel #ubuntu? Feb 17 02:09:24 Tassadar: hey, if you're scared your dropbox will get deleted because of the downloads, feel free to give out mine Feb 17 02:09:30 Tassadar: https://www.dropbox.com/s/w06cl3llrgccarv/Ubuntu_13.04_01-30-13.img Feb 17 02:10:07 isaias: Um...it _might_ not be mine, it's somebody's from XDA Feb 17 02:10:15 ahh Feb 17 02:10:42 either way, you have 2 links, in case one gets deleted xD Feb 17 02:12:48 I should go to bed Feb 17 02:12:50 well, good night Feb 17 02:14:35 gn8, better luck tomorrow :P Feb 17 02:49:14 i can dissconect my nexus7 while its flashing, right? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Feb 17 02:59:57 2013