**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 01 02:59:58 2013 Mar 01 12:25:42 I just realised that adb supports full phone backup. Mar 01 12:26:00 not sure how well that works with pushing apps & data from one phone to another though. Mar 01 12:26:12 but whould be good enough to test phablet deploy. Mar 01 12:26:25 on nexus4 that is. Mar 01 12:30:01 xnox: it seems to work well in Titanium backup so should work well in other cases Mar 01 12:30:25 hmm... note to self to checkout titanium backup Mar 01 19:30:11 infinity, hey, look, our new community starts producing fixes for libc ... https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00637.html ... Mar 01 19:30:27 (have fun fishing them out of xda froum zips :P ) Mar 01 19:45:15 I'm still trying to play audio from inside a chroot, so far alsamixergui can control the sound volume of apps running under the android host -- which is extremely cool by the way, since this is the first time I can increase left/right master/headphones separately -- but any apps from within the chroot are inaudible or won't even start playing. Mar 01 19:47:24 do you have /dev bindmounted ? Mar 01 19:47:40 ogra_: yes Mar 01 19:47:50 and proc and sys too ? Mar 01 19:47:53 yes Mar 01 19:48:06 then i would guess its a permission thing Mar 01 19:48:44 I have chmod 777 /dev/snd Mar 01 19:49:37 ogra_: Enabling debug options isn't a fix. :P Mar 01 19:49:43 hehe Mar 01 19:50:06 no, but his fix will likely end up in a similar place in a zip Mar 01 19:50:18 But the bug won't be in glibc. Mar 01 19:50:20 Just sayin'. Mar 01 19:50:39 tell him :) Mar 01 19:51:02 the next few months will surely be fun ... Mar 01 19:51:07 Err, are our images based on quantal still? :/ Mar 01 19:51:13 yes Mar 01 19:51:25 * infinity notes him talking about libc-2.15.so Mar 01 19:51:30 a) we dont have the phablet packages in raring Mar 01 19:51:43 b) we need https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-cdimage-android-builds Mar 01 19:52:06 i gues we'll start raring images around april Mar 01 19:52:15 Anyhow. I don't see him claiming it's a libc bug either. It's just that turning on IO_DEBUG allows libc to trap the bug he has elsewhere. Mar 01 19:54:49 haha, and there is an infinity553 in #ubuntu-touch Mar 01 19:55:10 i wonder if xnox' xchat fix would catch that Mar 01 20:11:23 xnox, how about a usb-creator -> phablet-flash spec ? Mar 01 21:23:49 ogra_: sure go ahead. Mar 01 21:24:03 ogra_: you can even dishout assignee to be me. Mar 01 21:24:16 ogra_: not sure about xchat catching that ;-) Mar 01 21:24:18 not tonight anymore, but i'll add it over the weekend Mar 01 21:24:23 kk. Mar 01 21:24:23 haha Mar 01 21:24:43 * ogra_ goes to watch wok racing on tv now Mar 01 21:48:16 ogra_, haha welcome to the world of xda/android, where if it isn't in a .zip it isn't good enough Mar 01 21:48:28 heh, yeah Mar 01 21:49:56 it is going to make the lists painful Mar 01 21:50:09 (the influx of android "devs) Mar 01 21:50:59 well, its seemingly our new part of the community Mar 01 21:51:07 and I do use that term liberally Mar 01 21:51:10 so we'll have to live with it Mar 01 21:51:44 yeah, there is already a thread about overclocking and replacing the bootloago with a running mario on the list Mar 01 21:51:52 (in the same mail) Mar 01 21:52:03 heh Mar 01 21:52:52 not surprised in the slightest Mar 01 21:53:21 it gives a good impression of what to expect i think Mar 01 21:53:40 yeah Mar 01 21:55:11 it is a good window into what the modding community will be like post release too Mar 01 21:55:32 and of what google currently deal with on their own lists Mar 01 21:56:38 yeah Mar 01 21:56:47 well, you get what you asked for i guess Mar 01 21:57:28 heh Mar 01 21:57:41 it is a delicate balance really Mar 01 22:00:06 I love how the mailing list is resembling a forum at the moment Mar 01 22:27:20 what's wrong with android devs? are they all clueless? Mar 01 22:28:03 or all use windows? Or both :-) Mar 01 22:32:30 heh, they are young, bear with them :) Mar 01 22:32:56 wookey, the common name for these devs is "winzip devs" cause the extent of their dev'ing is that they used winzip removed extra apks, added a few others, and then release it as their own creation Mar 01 23:19:39 aha. wel I just got apt built for arm64. generating a new rootfs now... Mar 01 23:20:07 an image with apt in it and working networking is suddenly a lot more useful... Mar 01 23:20:24 :o do you have an arm64 device? Mar 01 23:20:32 nope - there are none. only models Mar 01 23:20:52 and I didn't run that till last week Mar 01 23:21:19 you can work on an arch for 2 years without actually _running_ any native code :-) Mar 01 23:22:23 heh Mar 01 23:22:44 he imagines an arm64 device and then builds on it :) Mar 01 23:23:19 heh Mar 01 23:24:45 and people used to complain they had to wait years to get Linux support for thei hardware. Now they have to wait years for the hardware that Linux supports to actually exists ;) Mar 01 23:25:03 yeah :) Mar 01 23:25:13 * lilstevie wants an arm64 device yesterday Mar 01 23:25:40 easy ... Mar 01 23:26:20 lol Mar 01 23:26:20 if you want it yesterday you have to invent time traveling anyway so you can travell to wookey's house to next year, pick it up and go back to yesterday Mar 01 23:26:37 that does sound easy Mar 01 23:26:51 yeah, totally trivial Mar 01 23:27:00 in 20 years when I finish inventing the time travel machine I will just send it back to today Mar 01 23:27:24 http://www.amazon.com/Back-Future-Capacitor-Replica-Unlimited/dp/B001M5PTQM Mar 01 23:27:31 just needs the peripherials Mar 01 23:28:01 I had to do some nsty hackery on curl. first real bodge in the whole bootstrap, but I decided I was in a hurry :-) Mar 01 23:28:51 oh and nss is evil. Did I complain about that already? yuk. Mar 01 23:29:10 why do we need 6 different ssl implmentations anyway? Mar 01 23:29:56 (curl supports 6 and build-deps on 3) Mar 01 23:30:04 wookey, because 5 wasn't good enough **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 02 02:59:59 2013