**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 07 02:59:58 2013 Mar 07 10:20:56 hi... did anyone find out news about the gps in the nexus7? Mar 07 14:31:42 hey. anyone here who can help me. i just got my raspberry pi 512mb, and i need to get an os on the sd card. how do i do that? do i need a sd card reader or can i plug the raspberry in the computer with an usb cable? Mar 07 14:42:44 512 mb is maybe a bit small for a modern os Mar 07 14:44:18 it's the model 2 with 512mb ram.. do i really need a sd card reader to install the os with? or can i connect it to the computer? Mar 07 14:56:23 zorky: Ubuntu can't run on the Pi, so this is likely the wrong channel to be asking in. Mar 07 14:56:49 zorky: http://www.raspbian.org/ Mar 07 14:57:33 zorky: The answer to your question, however, is that if the Pi doesn't currently have an OS, there's no way to use it to read/write an SD card, so you'd need to do so an another machine, yes. Mar 07 14:57:56 s/do so an/do so on/ Mar 07 15:05:36 memory requirements depend entirely on what you're doing with it - 512Mb is plenty for many uses, including some graphical ones (e.g., my current desktop system uses 123 Mb right now, and an embedded PC I use as a digi-tv recorder uses 42 Mb, and I haven't done anything special to lower the memory use) Mar 07 15:06:05 but (as far as I've gathered) Ubuntu doesn't particularly target low-memory systems or use cases, so that may be another reason why this is the wrong channel :) Mar 07 16:02:06 Rjs: Memory has nothing to do with it, the Pi is armv6, and Ubuntu literally *can't* run on it. Mar 07 16:03:43 infinity, do you have any idea whom i should ping about dropping panda desktop images ? Mar 07 16:03:56 * ogra_ is rwally not sure who can make such a decision Mar 07 16:04:02 *really Mar 07 16:04:20 but it doesnt look like we'll have pvr support in the long term Mar 07 16:04:24 even mid term Mar 07 16:25:41 ogra_: I'm happy to take that decision, and any fallout from it. Mar 07 16:26:02 ogra_: Technically, Jason Warner "owns" the product, but I doubt he has an opinion. You can ask to be nice, though. Mar 07 16:26:15 ok, will do Mar 07 18:06:48 ogra_: if you drop panda desktop, I'm shipping my panda to become a buildd, as nexus7 fully furfills my armhf needs. And panda here was a server / ubiquity-desktop testbed. Mar 07 18:07:15 (server as in always on buildd, but I can totally fiddle with charging nexus7 in a more timely fashion) Mar 07 18:07:57 (or whatever is the best use of an extra pandaboard - live builder / qa test machine / etc) Mar 07 18:08:34 yeah, well, if you want to do native builds an USB disk on a panda is definitely way better than building on the MMC of the nexus **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 08 02:59:58 2013