**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 09 02:59:59 2013 Mar 09 14:06:42 it sucks rather hard that ubuntu won't run on the raspberry pi Mar 09 14:07:46 why do you want to run ubuntu there? Oo Mar 09 14:24:18 because galicaster uses a bunch of things and is built on ubuntu Mar 09 14:27:03 are you sure that rPI is even powerful enough to run that? Mar 09 14:42:08 hi everyone, I'm thinking about getting a samsung chromebook and using crouton. my only question is: what do the ARM repos look like--can you easily install Pidgin, say, or Skype? Mar 09 14:43:18 and is there a list of software available anywhere? Mar 09 14:50:54 liono: skype is binary crap, so you almost certainly can't use it on arm. Mar 09 14:51:00 hell, it barely works on x86 Mar 09 14:51:17 liono: but anything open source is easy enough to build if it's not in the repos Mar 09 14:51:43 ogra_: I'm about to demo flashing nexus7 with ubuntu touch/core. Mar 09 14:51:45 do we have working latest images? Mar 09 14:52:13 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/last-good-image/ Mar 09 14:52:31 (which is the one from the 4th) ... Mar 09 14:52:38 todays should just be building Mar 09 14:52:45 Zero_Chaos: I'm trying to decide whether to go with the c7 (x86) or the samsung (ARM). I realize that I can build stuff but I'm wondering how often I'll have to do that Mar 09 14:53:41 liono: all the basics are definately there. the arm port is reasonably complete. at least the raring one that I was playing with was. I'm guessing the precise one was good too Mar 09 14:53:45 liono, 90% of the ubuntu archive are available on arm ... no need to compile stuff usually Mar 09 14:54:10 oh wow, that's a lot more complete than I thought it would be Mar 09 14:54:24 indeed, binary x86 stuff like skype isnt available ... Mar 09 14:54:29 liono: most of the open source stuff *just works* so it's easy to just recompile Mar 09 14:54:36 liono: ie it's already in the repos Mar 09 14:54:45 yeah that's fine re: skype, I was just throwing that out there as a 'hard one' Mar 09 14:55:23 and it looks like dropbox allows you to compile it from source...this ARM chromebook is looking better every second Mar 09 14:55:26 if you use a chromebook it has the advantage that you can dual boot ... and for things like google hangouts you just switch over Mar 09 14:55:41 so there is *some* binary crap working ;) Mar 09 14:55:49 :) Mar 09 14:55:58 (oh and flash indeed) Mar 09 14:56:01 I like crouton's way of simul-running distros Mar 09 14:56:12 er simul-running chromeos and xubuntu Mar 09 15:01:11 dang, it looks like skype offers a .tar.bz2 Mar 09 15:02:29 with x86 binaries, yes Mar 09 15:02:38 ha Mar 09 15:02:42 I was just getting it to open it Mar 09 15:02:48 there are even ubuntu packages in the canonical partner repo Mar 09 15:02:51 :p Mar 09 15:03:06 arm packages in partner? Mar 09 15:03:10 nope Mar 09 15:03:20 dang Mar 09 15:03:38 there are no arm binaries from microsoft ... at least none that would run on linux Mar 09 15:05:00 one might be able to rip them out of a cracked surface RT ... but then you would need wine on arm to have support for RT to execute it... which it doesnt Mar 09 15:07:08 pretty tricky Mar 09 15:07:19 just realized I'm relying on spotify for a lot of my music Mar 09 15:07:40 which deffo is not open source and not compiled for arm Mar 09 15:08:02 ogra_: yeah, using last-good and it works. ok. Mar 09 15:08:13 well thank you guys so much for your help! I have some thinking to do Mar 09 15:08:15 heh, FSVO Ok Mar 09 15:08:17 catch you later! Mar 09 15:08:37 xnox, have a keyboard ready :) Mar 09 15:08:53 ogra_: i'm demoing preseeding, so no keyboard needed =) Mar 09 15:09:05 hehe, youre cheating :P Mar 09 19:30:41 ogra_: i showed them usb-creator flashing nexus7 and everyone loved it. Mar 10 00:34:22 one might be able to rip them out of a cracked surface RT ... <-- you really wouldn't need it to be cracked, you have full admin access on Windows RT, the only policies are you cannot run unsigned binaries or drivers **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 10 02:59:58 2013