**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 25 02:59:59 2013 Apr 25 09:36:34 ogra_, so the nexus7 kernel has the rotation fixed and works with both ubuntu and phablet images now? Apr 25 09:36:42 I did not follow that bug Apr 25 09:36:56 i dont think so Apr 25 09:37:09 as i understand touch is broken with the patch on u touch Apr 25 09:37:17 right Apr 25 09:37:52 and I thought at one point I read ppisati he'd found a fix for both but I may be remembering something else Apr 25 09:37:59 if we cant make it work on both we'll have to drop desktop Apr 25 09:38:26 though there is also discussion about renaming the arch to grouper Apr 25 09:38:36 desktop should be dropped for 13.10 anyway no? By then we should have non-alpha quality touch images Apr 25 09:38:44 then we could probably leave -nexus7 just idle in the archive Apr 25 09:38:57 we need an image to test desktop on Apr 25 09:39:04 apps specifically Apr 25 09:39:14 ogra_, ah right Apr 25 09:39:19 (stuff that doesnt run on touch) Apr 25 09:39:31 they are still around until convergence at least Apr 25 09:39:31 the question is which image this will be Apr 25 09:39:39 even then Apr 25 09:39:40 chromebook would be awesomer Apr 25 09:39:53 well, i doubt we'll do a completely new image Apr 25 09:39:57 since desktop non n7 is not really usable Apr 25 09:40:01 up to foundations :) Apr 25 09:40:14 you are part of foundations no ? :) Apr 25 09:40:24 only until end of the month Apr 25 09:40:46 UE is re-shaping a bit Apr 25 09:41:20 i'll be in what i like to call "phonedations" then :) Apr 25 09:42:07 so not a big change :) Apr 25 09:42:20 desktop images stay in the hands of foundations ... i'll do touch low level plumbing Apr 25 09:42:31 (and touch images) Apr 25 09:42:49 ogra_, so getting into android HAL stuff as well? Apr 25 09:43:07 well, getting rid of it as much as possible rather :) Apr 25 09:43:23 any ETA on MIR replacing SF? Apr 25 09:43:26 (but keep as much as needed and probably even properly packaging it) Apr 25 09:43:51 dunno, within the next 4-6 week i would hope Apr 25 09:44:24 thats about the timeframe for staring daily S images, i hope Mir is in the archive and usable by then in S Apr 25 09:45:18 nice Apr 25 09:45:32 when does S open? We need a name first right? Apr 25 09:45:34 we'll see :) Apr 25 09:45:37 yeah Apr 25 09:45:46 once sabdfl does his blog post Apr 25 09:45:56 that's been a bottleneck recently Apr 25 09:46:00 No Name Yet Apr 25 09:46:11 yeah Apr 25 09:46:17 last release already Apr 25 09:46:25 buut this one is worse Apr 25 09:46:40 he's on the road since weeks though Apr 25 09:48:10 has no wifi and access to wikipedia on the road? Traveling is a lame excuse :) Apr 25 09:48:29 heh Apr 25 09:48:44 dunno if hoos plane has wifi nowadays :) Apr 25 09:48:48 *his Apr 25 09:51:04 ogra_, I believe this is fixed right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1120196 Apr 25 09:51:05 Launchpad bug 1120196 in ubuntu-nexus7 "Touchscreen input incorrectly rotated at boot." [Medium,Triaged] Apr 25 09:51:17 yeah, should be Apr 25 09:51:17 I see I made a commit a cou;ple days after the bug being filed Apr 25 09:51:22 but never got to follow up Apr 25 09:51:40 I have not installed raring on grouper for a while Apr 25 09:51:51 same here Apr 25 09:52:00 and i have a lot of hacks in mine atm Apr 25 09:52:18 * ogra_ is looking into getting the dcontainer flip to work Apr 25 09:52:23 *container Apr 25 09:53:02 ogra_, oh so that one is happening? Apr 25 09:53:13 likely .... Apr 25 09:53:16 it seemed it was vehiculated but not actually on the roadmap concretely Apr 25 09:53:21 depends how android will behave :) Apr 25 09:53:26 using lxc? Apr 25 09:53:31 it currently blocks a lot Apr 25 09:53:34 no Apr 25 09:53:34 * janimo hopes Apr 25 09:53:49 lxc needs recent kernels and patches on top Apr 25 09:54:01 that would break for all porters Apr 25 09:54:11 ogra_, aren't all nexus kernels working with lxc? Apr 25 09:54:13 unless they are into kernel hacking a lot Apr 25 09:54:18 no Apr 25 09:54:25 n4 does at least Apr 25 09:54:32 i think the newest kernel we have is 3.5 Apr 25 09:54:33 that is 3.4 though Apr 25 09:54:41 rest are 3.0/3.1 Apr 25 09:54:44 and there are features missing Apr 25 09:55:00 (proc namespace stuff afaik) Apr 25 09:55:22 ogra_, kernel team backported overlayfs on grouper, cannot similar tasks be done for cgroups? Apr 25 09:55:40 I mean picking a handmade solutions instead of what looks like the stadnard container becasue of legacy kernels Apr 25 09:55:44 i dont think we have a final idea yet, but it might be that we "just use" the android layer in the ubuntu rootfs ... Apr 25 09:55:50 without any container Apr 25 09:55:54 I hate playing with my old packages Apr 25 09:55:56 although I am not sure when more modern kernels start showing up in android devices Apr 25 09:56:02 liub paths are distinct already Apr 25 09:56:06 *lib Apr 25 09:56:15 dpkg-source: info: local changes detected, the modified files are: Apr 25 09:56:16 ogra_, no container may be even better indeed Apr 25 10:13:05 can someone help me with "The source xf86-video-armsoc - 0.0+git20121019+rebdf1e3-0ubuntu2 is already accepted in ubuntu/raring" message? (upload goes to PPA) Raring has -0ubuntu1 only... Apr 25 10:13:45 there is a tarball that matches this version already Apr 25 10:15:17 ok **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 26 02:59:58 2013