**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 09 02:59:58 2013 May 09 05:08:00 Snark: nothing works, 'ghjk' keys get up to 95°C, touchpad is 147° rotated and screen works in 320x180 resolution only. May 09 05:08:34 Snark: hdmi works only if keyboard is connected to usb3 port and SD slot works only on tuesdays May 09 05:25:33 hrw: Speaking of. Can I get you to verify your alsa* SRUs so I can release them? Pretty please? May 09 05:26:05 hrw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/chromebook-arm/+bug/1085392 May 09 05:26:19 Launchpad bug 1085392 in Cross distro support for Samsung Chromebook (ARM based) "Merge Chromebook UCM profiles into ALSA packages" [Critical,Triaged] May 09 05:47:49 hrw: hmmm... may I remind you that I own an AC100, where the latest kernel makes hdmi and sound work, but suspend+resume fails, while using an older kernel makes suspend+resume fail but not hdmi and sound May 09 05:49:07 hrw: additionally, there *is* a page describing what works and what doesn't for ubuntu touch on the nexus 7 May 09 05:49:25 so, I don't think my question is as laughable as you make it sound... May 09 05:52:09 so, my question is: what part of the following list works when running ubuntu on the samsung chromebook (wifi, hdmi, bluetooth, suspend+resume)? May 09 05:53:32 s/an older kernel makes suspend+resume fail but not hdmi and sound May 09 05:53:40 /an older kernel makes suspend+resume fail but not hdmi and sound May 09 05:53:45 rrraahhh... May 09 05:54:06 I meant the older kernel had suspend+resume work, but didn't make it possible to use hdmi and sound May 09 06:11:53 infinity: sorry, forgot totally May 09 06:12:05 Snark: we use the same kernel source as chrome os doe May 09 06:12:06 s May 09 06:12:52 Snark: so what works under chromeos works under ubuntu. but we do not ship opengles stuff or hw accelerated codecs May 09 06:16:45 maybe during saucy cycle it will change as I plan to build 3.8 or 3.10-rc kernels May 09 06:47:14 Hi! May 09 06:48:20 Is it to be expected that UbuntuArm 12.10 on BeagleBone Black only gives a handful of package updates (after apt-get update)? May 09 06:58:40 How many were you hoping for? May 09 07:28:29 hrw good! May 09 07:28:31 thanks May 09 07:34:23 death to slow sd cards... May 09 07:34:44 started debootstrap over hour ago May 09 09:22:26 ogra_: I see that android-tools are now in main - nice May 09 09:50:08 hrw: why is usb-storage a module in chromebook kernel? Makes testing kind of difficult May 09 09:50:27 XorA: my mistake May 09 09:50:46 XorA: open a bug please - otherwise no SRU can be done May 09 09:51:02 hrw: oh its an official package now? May 09 09:51:07 yes, it is May 09 09:51:19 hrw: wont have time today Ill postit to do that tomorrow May 09 09:51:30 XorA: no rush May 09 09:51:40 * XorA has year end accounts to sort out + Linaro May 09 10:10:45 infinity: rebooting chromebook to check after-reboot sound state May 09 10:13:26 infinity: passed May 09 10:15:09 hrw: Awesome. Can you do Q too, or shall we just fudge that based on the diffs being the same? :P May 09 10:15:53 infinity: with my sd card it will take another few hours to populate rootfs May 09 10:16:14 diffs are same and chromebook users are on 12.04 or 13.04 usually May 09 10:16:27 hrw: Yeah, diffs being the same (just double-checked) is good enough for me. May 09 10:17:53 infinity: I though that SRU bugs should be verified by !reporter May 09 10:18:39 hrw: Nah, that's crazy talk. They should be verified by someone who knows how to verify them. May 09 10:18:49 ;) May 09 10:19:06 hrw: I'm happy with it being the reporter as long as it's obvious that they actually did so (which you clearly did), instead of them just lying to me to get their crap code in. :P May 09 10:20:20 right May 09 10:21:43 infinity: I hope that 3.10 will be able to work on chromebook - or 3.11 in worst case May 09 10:25:54 Linux 3.11 for Workgroups will only work on 486s. May 09 10:26:08 hehe May 09 10:27:52 infinity: good that I still have Vortex86SX somewhere... May 09 10:28:04 486sx 300MHz noFPU May 09 10:28:32 I might still have an AMD 5x86/133 in a closet. May 09 10:29:18 From the unclever days when "5x86" meant "486DX compatible, but we gave it a higher number to sound impressive". May 09 10:29:45 Amazing how my opinions of them flipped right around with the K7. May 09 10:30:23 ;) May 09 10:30:32 my first PC was AMD Duron 600MHz May 09 10:30:39 Good little CPUs those. May 09 10:30:49 worked fine as 850MHz after some pencil fun May 09 10:30:52 I had a Duron 600 clocked at 900, if I recall. May 09 10:31:05 mine was not stable at 900 May 09 10:31:12 850's close enough. May 09 10:31:16 probably cooling needed update May 09 10:31:23 Given they were, what, like 50 dollar parts at OEM wholesale cost? May 09 10:31:33 no idea - cheap it was May 09 10:31:52 and switch from 68040/40 to Duron/600 was huge May 09 10:32:17 Hahaha. No shit. Amiga or Atari? May 09 10:32:20 and 720x480x4(grey) -> 1024x768x16(color) May 09 10:32:24 infinity: Amiga 1200 May 09 10:32:58 infinity: my first Linux experience was on this hw. Check potato installation guide for Amiga ;D May 09 10:33:15 I was still tracking music on my A1200 while playing video games on my K7 machines. May 09 10:33:28 infinity: I sold a1200 to have money for pc May 09 10:33:33 Speaks volumes to the quality of both the software and hardware in the Amiga world. May 09 10:34:02 But, eventually, I got sick of rebooting it before laying down a track to avoid clock skew over time, and other such oddities, bit the bullet, and learned to use inferior PC tracking software. May 09 10:34:06 motherboard, apollo 1240/40 (real 40MHz), 2x32MB simms, fastata controller May 09 10:34:09 (And then, over time, the PC software got less shit) May 09 10:34:48 vga mono with AGA was usable. but I would not go for >4 bit of grey (or colours) :d May 09 10:35:12 All the cool kids had colour! May 09 10:35:23 infinity: so I was not cool kid;) May 09 10:35:24 Heck, I had color on my old 6809 machine. May 09 10:35:40 That fancypants RGB monitor cost a fortune, if I recall. May 09 10:35:58 infinity: atari 65xe with green monitor, then amiga600, then a1200 with same monitor. May 09 10:36:17 then monitor died for 3rd time and I decided to buy vga mono instead of resurrection May 09 10:36:33 Heh. May 09 10:36:46 720x480 27.5kHz 58.5Hz - no other vga monitor was able to sync it May 09 10:36:58 Yeah, when my parents stopped being a source of cool tech, I was cheap about monitors too. May 09 10:37:27 After I moved out, I had the same old 800x600 14 inch monitor until. Uhm. 2002? May 09 10:38:09 When a friend forced me to buy a new monitor because he couldn't stand me using a 15yo CRT with brand new computers. May 09 10:38:35 in 2000 I was more limited by 2MB ATI Mach64 graphic card then monitor. May 09 10:38:46 And now I've just given up on the whole desktop thing and buy laptops, which come with "free" monitors, so yay. May 09 10:38:49 few months later Matrox G400 arrived and situation changed May 09 10:39:28 infinity: maybe one day I will find a use for laptop other then 'machine for use at conference' - then I will look at something fast May 09 10:39:50 (Though my test bench does have a decent enough 24inch HDMI 1080p screen that mostly sits idle) May 09 10:40:27 If my laptop didn't have the evil hybrid graphics setup of doom, I'd use it as a second display... May 09 10:40:55 intelvidia? May 09 10:41:00 Yeah. May 09 10:41:09 I run it straight Intel to save battery life and my sanity. May 09 10:41:26 But the displayport connector no workie unless you're in nvidia mode, or some such. May 09 10:41:30 Silly setup. May 09 10:41:45 you get what you paid or sth like that May 09 10:42:02 There wasn't a pure Intel option on the laptop I wanted. Such is life. May 09 10:42:09 External displays aren't important to me anyway. May 09 10:42:42 infinity: which model you have? May 09 10:42:52 T420s May 09 10:43:12 And I should revise that. If I'd customised online, I think I could have gotten an Intel-only setup (maybe), but I was buying retail in HK. May 09 10:43:43 (gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:3644): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/gdk-pixbuf- May 09 10:43:46 2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory May 09 10:44:08 and 'gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache' hint is useless as command is not present... May 09 10:44:11 life. May 09 10:52:36 hrw: did you cut off the USB part? May 09 10:52:56 XorA: not yet but plan to May 09 11:34:34 fun. linux-next on chromebook shuts it down during bootup May 09 12:08:01 hrw: multitasking in action May 09 21:09:23 hi there, I'm trying to recover android in my nexus 7 after an unsucessfull try for ubuntu-arm and it's talking so much time, I've looked at ps and it seems a have a 'D+' which stand for 'uninterruptible sleep', do any of you had any similar problem? May 09 21:30:31 so, after rebooting with another kernel, and retrying the procedure, it agains hangs at $ fastboot -w update image.zip, this time however I could launch strace, and this is its output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5649198/ after the last line, it just stay in the 'D+' state and it doesn't show more output May 09 22:21:08 ok, I think I got it know, it seems like the usb subsystem is very delicate, this time I made sure the tablet didn't move even a milimeter and it worked **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 10 02:59:58 2013