**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 31 02:59:58 2013 May 31 07:22:38 where did ubuntu core for 11.10 go? I see lots of references to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/11.10 yet it doesn't exist (removed as 11.10 is no longer supported?) May 31 07:23:09 tharvey_home: 11.10 is EOL and gone, yeah. Use 12.04. May 31 07:24:28 so is core just another rootfs like server, desktop, cloud are? is core the only one that supports arm? May 31 07:25:03 core is just a minimal rootfs with pretty much nothing installed but essential packages and apt. May 31 07:25:29 We also have full installer images for some platforms (like omap4/Panda), but not many. May 31 07:25:38 would you call 'server' and 'desktop' a rootfs too then? May 31 07:25:40 And netboot installer images for things like highbank and armadaxp. May 31 07:25:57 server and desktop are installers, not rootfses. May 31 07:27:02 where are the installer images and how would I go about creating one for a different board? May 31 07:28:40 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ for netboot images, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ for some installer images. Creating one for a specific board isn't trivial, and not something I'd try to explain at 1:30am. May 31 07:29:56 This is all very much a hacker's game right now, still. It's not easy to give simple "this is how you do it" instructions for booting a board we don't support. May 31 07:30:05 But that's slowly changing with generic multiplatform kernels. May 31 07:30:06 Slowly. May 31 07:31:26 well, I know how to 'boot' my board with say the core rootfs, I'm just not clear what the 'installer image' does for me - perhaps make it easier for someone to repeat my process less manually? May 31 07:32:36 tharvey_home: Possibly that, yeah. But it's certainly not a necessity for people to have shiny installers, if you can give people simple instructions on booting and jamming a kernel/config into ubuntu-core. May 31 07:34:15 looking at some of the installer images - I see they are just the bins needed like the bootloader, and kernel, boot scripts and then the .img* files are ie usd images you would dd to the usd? May 31 07:35:38 tharvey_home: The .img files are DDable to SD, yeah. May 31 07:36:00 tharvey_home: And for some platforms (androidish platforms, like ac100 or nexus devices), we provide a bootimg to stuff in the boot partition. May 31 07:36:23 so the images presume a specific sized uSD for example? May 31 07:36:57 tharvey_home: The old preinstalled images we used in 12.04 actually just auto-resize to fill the card on first boot. May 31 07:37:23 tharvey_home: The images we did for 12.10 and later use the same installer as x86 desktop images and expect to install FROM the card to an external storage device (like a USB hard drive). May 31 07:39:47 ah... neat. Is there someplace I can see the installer script that does the auto-resize for the 12-04 images and the script that does the installing for 12.10? May 31 07:40:31 The "script" that does the installing for 12.10 is ubiquity. It's the full desktop installer. May 31 07:40:41 The auto-resizing magic in 12.04 is in the jasper-initramfs package. May 31 07:42:23 and what is used to 'build' the img file (what dictates the packages and actually installed them to a rootfs)? May 31 07:43:17 tharvey_home: That's a combination of live-build/livecd-rootfs, and the finishing touches are cdimage. That's the part(s) of the process that I hinted at being pretty complex and not something for a 1:30am conversation. :) May 31 07:44:56 infinity, no worries - thanks for the explanation May 31 09:04:10 for the record_ he/she is banned in #pandaboard now May 31 09:45:12 who? May 31 09:45:23 morphis? May 31 09:48:17 yes. May 31 14:42:12 Hi. May 31 14:43:31 I have installed ubuntu for ARM on a beaglebone black. Should it be possible to login to the BBB via ssh when it has booted. I am able to ping the BBB, but when I try the ssh into it i get: ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.70 port 22: No route to host May 31 14:43:48 yes you should be able to May 31 14:44:00 can the bbb ssh into itself? May 31 14:45:10 I tried using "ubuntu" and "root" as users but still no luck. May 31 14:45:32 How do you mean ssh into itself? May 31 14:45:42 ssh from it to it :) May 31 14:46:35 I dont have any acces to temrinal. My mointor does not work with the mini-HDMI output. May 31 14:47:03 well, did you set up the network and did you install ssh ? May 31 14:47:26 ogra_: I just had to ask the same ;D May 31 14:47:45 we dont offer any official images for the beagles anymore, best is to talk to the person who created that image May 31 14:48:00 are you using the armhf image brykt? May 31 14:48:08 I flashed the eMMC by booting up from the mini SD-card.... May 31 14:48:22 I dont know how to set it up. May 31 14:48:32 so you got the image from armhf.com? May 31 14:48:44 I used the image from this page: May 31 14:48:48 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black May 31 14:48:59 well, find the person who created it May 31 14:49:42 ive not used that image May 31 14:49:56 i use www.armhf.com/index.php/boards/beaglebone-black/ loaded on an SD card May 31 14:50:02 though it can be loaded onto the mmc if you want May 31 14:50:59 ok, great. I will try that one... May 31 14:51:40 note that it does not support fbdev out of th ebox May 31 14:51:47 oh no screen May 31 14:51:48 you dont care May 31 14:52:33 that image will bring up eth0 automatically via dhcp on first boot and has ssh going .. and supports all the wifi cards ive thrown at it... but i also reloaded a new kernel on it shortly thereafter... 3.8 > 3.2 May 31 14:52:52 though i suppose i could give you my kernel and modules if you need it May 31 14:53:22 ah, ok. Will keep that in mind if I ever want to connect a screen. May 31 14:53:30 maxinux: iirc beaglebone black had 3.8 kernel out of the box May 31 14:53:41 hrw: angstrom comes with, but ubuntu does not May 31 14:54:00 maxinux: person which created image to blame then May 31 14:54:05 im not complaining May 31 14:54:14 i simply cross recompiled my kernel May 31 14:54:17 ;) May 31 14:54:25 i jokingly recompiled on the bbb also May 31 14:54:34 a few -6 hours later it was starting on modules May 31 14:56:08 You loaded Angstrom 3.2 from 3.8? May 31 14:56:19 ? no May 31 14:56:29 ubuntu arm image from armhf.com ships with kernel 3.2 May 31 14:56:38 i compiled 3.8.13 and loaded it on my bbb May 31 14:58:28 ah. ok... I'll get back to you if I cannot get the stuff I need the BBB for to work. Maybe 3.8.13 will solve it... May 31 22:46:37 hello everyone. May 31 22:46:57 I was wondering if I could get some pointers on imaging an SDcard with Ubuntu Server Arm... May 31 22:47:24 I have a BeagleBone Black, and I have tried the documentation several times, but still cant get it to post. May 31 22:47:41 does anyone know of a good method to getting the image on an SD card? May 31 23:52:14 hi May 31 23:53:03 hi. Jun 01 00:02:21 I'm debating building an arm "desktop" Jun 01 00:02:33 I've looked at a few options Jun 01 00:02:44 im running ubuntu arm w/ xfce4 on bbb Jun 01 00:02:53 sound is still a fail Jun 01 00:02:57 and 720p max Jun 01 00:03:06 raspi too slow still, but raspian is a reasonable distro Jun 01 00:05:30 i was looking at the via vab-800 Jun 01 00:09:40 looks nice Jun 01 00:15:35 it can be a bit of an experience if you havent done it before Jun 01 00:34:35 i haven't Jun 01 00:35:50 i built a system that booted up the power supply, drives and usb devices, but i couldn't get the os to boot on the pandaboard Jun 01 00:36:05 i gave up because i had little time Jun 01 00:38:03 If you have a Panda, that's going to be a more fun experience than the VIA. Jun 01 00:38:20 The CPU on that VIA machine isn't what I'd call "fast". Jun 01 00:41:07 the problem was getting it to look like an atx system Jun 01 00:41:54 i had a make-shift io shield that was hell to make and far from practical Jun 01 00:56:43 he's not having any luck connecting **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 01 02:59:58 2013