**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 01 02:59:58 2013 Jul 01 09:56:16 have you tried ubuntu 12.04 on the cubieboard? Jul 01 13:37:36 anyone know of any good games ported to ARM linux? Jul 01 13:45:01 Carmageddon Jul 01 13:45:54 cool lol Jul 01 13:46:13 I've trie looking for a list but none seem to exist Jul 01 13:46:25 Quake, Doom, Heretic, Hexen, etc etc Jul 01 13:46:33 Ithink Doom 3 is Jul 01 14:09:50 emacs' elize. Jul 01 14:11:56 Half-Life would be awesome on ARM linux Jul 01 14:16:30 I guess that will happen when thingymabobbers can make the Steam box really cheap using nvidia tech Jul 01 14:19:25 someone should make a list of games/apps porte to ARM linux Jul 01 14:20:04 mijk_: that list is the same as games ported to Linux Jul 01 14:21:58 minus the obvious valve ones Jul 01 14:27:08 evry game will crosscompile to ARM?? Jul 01 14:31:14 if we have sourcecode it will Jul 01 14:31:26 main issue on arm is lack of decent GL drivers Jul 01 14:31:50 only OpenGL ES? Jul 01 14:32:06 mijk_: even they tend to be second class! Jul 01 14:32:25 open glez? or opengles? Jul 01 14:32:33 ouch, my opengles! Jul 01 14:38:08 we pray to Gods like Rob Clark for freedreno and whoever does Lima for opening arm to gaming! Jul 01 15:04:16 XorA, Mir will surely solve all first world probs here :P Jul 01 15:06:42 ogra_: thats only really a part time hack as its build on delicate binary drivers Jul 01 15:07:12 ogra_: although Im impressed with Mirs progress Jul 01 15:09:57 XorA, well, sort term i doubt you will find ubuntu images that dont use boinary blobs on arm (and the lxc container for the android HAL) Jul 01 15:10:04 s/sort/short/ Jul 01 15:10:52 so whatever has the android container will have full HW support through Mir to get GLES as well as codecs just working Jul 01 15:11:04 ogra_: but I see hideousness in GL rendering even in Android :-D Jul 01 15:11:33 with plain Mir it shouldnt be a prob, not so sure about XMir on arm though Jul 01 15:11:59 ogra_: Mir can only ever be as good as its base, and at the moment that base sucks! Jul 01 15:12:18 well, it works fine with surfaceflinger Jul 01 15:12:33 and i havent heard of regressions with Mir vs SF Jul 01 15:12:59 in the arm case Mir is just a 1:1 replacement for SF Jul 01 15:13:50 indeed, if the vendor blob drivers suck, there isnt much to fix :) Jul 01 15:14:17 ogra_: thats my main issue, when I try 3d games, they tend to misrender a lot on a lot of devices Jul 01 15:14:24 ah Jul 01 15:14:24 Nexus 4 seems to do ok though! Jul 01 15:15:14 yeah, well, we support like 50 sdevices now (well, the community does) ... but yeah nexus should all work Jul 01 15:15:17 these embedded GFX drivers are currently second class in a lot of manufacturers I think, I guess this will change if Android gaming market becomes real $$$ Jul 01 15:15:17 even gnex Jul 01 15:15:34 ouya will save us all ! Jul 01 15:15:37 :) Jul 01 15:16:10 I think the best thing would be a Steambox arm, Valve kicked x86 vendors butts, they need to do arm now :-D Jul 01 15:16:18 yeah Jul 01 15:16:22 ++ on that Jul 01 15:16:44 i suspect they are waiting for Mir here though Jul 01 15:16:55 so they can just use the drivers for now Jul 01 15:17:12 (and kick the butss for actual issues they find) Jul 01 15:17:16 *butts Jul 01 15:17:30 hmm, half life on me tablet :-D Jul 01 15:18:38 HL2 rather :) Jul 01 15:19:00 and TF2 with oculus rift on your phone !!! Jul 01 15:19:04 ogra_: Blueshift was my favourite Jul 01 15:19:37 * ogra_ has a CD of that somewhere in a box Jul 01 15:20:01 ogra_: Add any HL game to steam and you get them all for free :-D Jul 01 15:20:25 yeah i have a ton of steam games i bought and still didnt even play once Jul 01 15:20:33 HL being among them Jul 01 15:20:45 I figure it must be becuase the original HL/Opposing force had no CD keys Jul 01 15:20:55 or at least my ones don't Jul 01 15:20:58 my blueshift CD does Jul 01 15:21:11 yeah blueshift is the only one that does in my collection Jul 01 19:11:44 hi all, is there a way or a howto; to reloading lubuntu onto the nand of pcduino? if the os on nand is not booting up. read through the pcduino user guide alreaady. tnx **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 02 02:59:58 2013