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Jul 29 23:46:22 <keebler> Oh MUCH better.
Jul 29 23:46:35 <keebler> Was beginning to worry there weren't any decent ARM IRC Channels.
Jul 29 23:46:42 <maxinux> hahah
Jul 29 23:46:48 <maxinux> who says this one is decent?
Jul 29 23:46:57 <keebler> Well, I should say, "populated".
Jul 29 23:48:23 <keebler> Haha "This channel is decent"
Jul 29 23:48:30 <keebler> Took me a minute.
Jul 29 23:49:35 <infinity> If it wasn't about to overflow, I'd add "The topic is a lie", but meh.
Jul 29 23:49:35 <keebler> I'm on medical house arrest for a nasty fall and I've just been trying to "work" with like minded people.
Jul 29 23:49:56 <keebler> Working with some Allwinner A20 chips.
Jul 29 23:50:16 <keebler> for the EOMA-68 Platform.
Jul 29 23:53:47 <keebler> We've been running Debian Wheezy on our cards, but was curious if anyone has managed to get ubuntu running on them yet.
Jul 29 23:53:56 <keebler> the A20 that is.
Jul 29 23:54:41 <infinity> There's no reason why the Ubuntu userspace wouldn't work just fine on them.
Jul 29 23:54:42 * keebler is watching his new cross-compile server install from across the room.
Jul 29 23:54:46 <infinity> And I assume you're rolling your own kernels.
Jul 29 23:54:50 <keebler> aye
Jul 29 23:55:17 <keebler> using the linux-sunxi sources
Jul 29 23:55:23 <infinity> Just unpacking and tweaking something like ubuntu-core would get you around the annoyance of wanting an installer.
Jul 29 23:55:47 <infinity> (Or, since you already have Debian on there, just debootstrapping saucy/armhf and playing from there, whichever)
Jul 29 23:56:32 <keebler> Yeah, I was going to try playing around once I'm up and moving.
Jul 30 01:55:03 <Arbition> Hi. I've got a beaglebone black (Cortex-A8) and I'm looking to install networkmanager, but libxml2 doesn't seem to be in the repositories, even though the file is in the indicies.
Jul 30 01:56:26 <Arbition> using 13.04
Jul 30 02:04:36 <infinity> Arbition: It sure is...
Jul 30 02:04:40 <Arbition> hm
Jul 30 02:05:05 <Arbition> Well I'm getting a 404 from apt
Jul 30 02:05:14 <infinity> With which mirror?
Jul 30 02:05:18 <infinity> And which path?
Jul 30 02:05:21 <Arbition> main
Jul 30 02:05:30 <infinity> "main" isn't a mirror.
Jul 30 02:05:36 <infinity> Paste the actual error message?
Jul 30 02:05:37 <Arbition> ports.ubuntu.com
Jul 30 02:06:54 <infinity> Odd are, though, that you just have stale indices, and an 'apt-get update' will get you downloading a newer version.
Jul 30 02:07:05 <Arbition> ah ok I'll try that
Jul 30 02:08:36 <Arbition> yeah that did it
Jul 30 02:08:44 <Arbition> Sorry, I thought it might be arm specific
Jul 30 02:08:55 <Arbition> as you may have guessed I am not a regular ubuntu user
Jul 30 02:09:27 <Arbition> I prefer Fedora, but because the BeagleBone Black is a bit niche, I have to go with whats popular, and the Angstrom distro they release is pretty terrible
Jul 30 02:09:41 <infinity> Angstrom is pretty awful, yeah.
Jul 30 02:10:00 <infinity> I'd give opinions about Fedora, but that may appear to have professional bias. :P
Jul 30 02:11:53 <infinity> Really, though, mapping one's brain from RH/FC to Debian/Ubuntu (and vice versa) really just comes down to mapping a few yum/apt commands internally, and sorting out annoying things like how we name library and dev packages differently.
Jul 30 02:12:11 <infinity> (That is, Debian and Ubuntu name them sanely and consistently... Not that I have a bias... *cough*)
Jul 30 02:13:13 <Arbition> I'm guessing there is also the difference with systemd and upstard, as well as firewalld which is still fairly new. Both are pretty important in this application, as I am making a soft router out of the BBB
Jul 30 02:13:42 <infinity> Ahh, yeah.  Well, depends on which Fedora or RHEL you're running, some used upstart. ;)
Jul 30 02:14:09 <infinity> But the newest FC is systemd, yes.  Not that that makes a difference to the average user.  Most people don't really (or shouldn't) care about their init system.
Jul 30 02:14:20 <infinity> For a firewall, that may not be true, I suppose.
Jul 30 02:15:01 <infinity> Though most people doing anything more clever than poking a few holes open in a cute user-friendly firewall helper tend to just write their own iptables rules in shell scripts of doom and execute them.
Jul 30 02:15:15 <infinity> Maybe because we were all infected by IOS back in the day.
Jul 30 02:15:36 <Arbition> IOS as in Cisco I take it?
Jul 30 02:15:48 <infinity> Yeah, the real IOS.
Jul 30 02:15:56 <Arbition> I can think of two others
Jul 30 02:16:11 <infinity> Well, one of them has a small 'i'.
Jul 30 02:16:17 <infinity> And I'm not aware of the third. ;)
Jul 30 02:16:18 <Arbition> yes, I guess it does
Jul 30 02:16:32 <Arbition> I think the Wii uses that as a naming convention of at least something
Jul 30 02:17:28 <infinity> Anyhow, Apple paid Cisco good money to abuse both "IOS" and "iPhone", but I stubbornly refuse to admit they did so.
Jul 30 02:17:34 <infinity> Because ignorance is bliss.
Jul 30 02:26:01 * keebler still has nightmares of working for a Broadband Provisioning company (Reallinx), configuring hundreds of Cisco 1721s.
Jul 30 02:27:20 <keebler> Well, maybe not 100's, more like 100ish... Only worked there for 8 months.
Jul 30 02:27:54 <keebler> It did inspire me to make a Cisco to iPad Cross-over cable in 2010.
Jul 30 02:28:11 <keebler> Back when you had to jailbreak it.
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