**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 26 02:59:59 2013 Dec 26 06:41:28 Hi all. Anyone have any suggestions for dual head pico-itx SBCs that would be able to run ubuntu ARM? Dec 26 13:19:09 hi. small question. is it possible to build ubuntu touch without using and depending on android? i want a ubuntu linux distro with ubuntu touch. how can this be maked the best and easy way? any known instructions ? Dec 26 16:32:31 Hello, does anyone know how I could create my own armhf rootfs? Dec 26 17:11:54 zeorin, you could start from an ubuntu-core tarball Dec 26 17:12:27 aalternatively, install qemu-user-static and use qemu-debootstrap to create an armhf chroot Dec 26 17:36:56 I'm wary of the core install because the device I want to use it on doesn't have ethernet... Dec 26 17:37:10 It's an Asus Transformer Prime Dec 26 17:37:48 I've got ubuntu running on it currently using instructions found here http://lifeinarootshell.blogspot.it/2013/03/howto.html Dec 26 17:39:17 but after an update to 13.10 lightdm won't start, not authorized to connect to networks, unity (if using startx) is just a black screen except for the cursor, when I ran do-release-upgrade I had to prefix the command with LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 because that wasn't set... Just problems all around... I figure a fresh install starting in saucy would be better Dec 26 17:40:48 I'm currently trying it with rootstock even though it's deprecated... It seems that live-build. is the recommended method nowadays... But there are no clear instructions on how to build an armhf saucy rootfs using that tool.... And obviously it's Xmas time, so family wants me around and I don't really have time right now to figure out exactly how to get out of that what I need Dec 26 17:41:22 If you know of any clear instructions online somewhere that would be A+ Dec 26 17:42:08 BTW, thanks for responding, I've asked several questions in this channel (even before the festive times), and even though there's many users logged in, no one has ever answered :) Dec 26 17:51:53 rootstock seemed to have failed, I can't find a qemu-debootstrap package Dec 26 17:53:28 zeorin: What was wrong with using ubuntu-core, exactly? Dec 26 17:54:05 no wifi support included, afaik... If you know a way to add that after install then I would be happy :) Dec 26 17:54:16 The "LC_ALL=C.UTF-8" bit should be entirely unnecessary for an upgrade, unless you were just trying to avoid Perl being a bit verbose because you SSHed in from a machine that set a different locale. Dec 26 17:54:55 well, you see it was necessary because the initial image and installation instructions I had never had it set... Also reconfiguring locales didn't help Dec 26 17:55:16 No, I mean it's was unnecessary. As in, not necessary. What made you think it was? Dec 26 17:55:29 do-release-upgrade would fail without it (indeed it was perl complaining), but I was doing this directly on the machine, not through ssh Dec 26 17:55:43 perl complaining won't cause do-release-upgrade to fail. Dec 26 17:55:51 It's just annoyingly verbose warnings. Dec 26 17:56:12 If there's actually a problem with upgrading in LANG=C, we'd appreciate bug reports. Dec 26 17:56:25 It would fail without it. I spent a whole day finding the LC_ALL fix... Dec 26 17:56:54 the install is a bit of a hack because it used an armhf image initially created for AC100, a 12.04 image Dec 26 17:56:57 Forgive my skepticism, given that all the buildd chroots auto-upgrade all day long and run in LANG=C. Dec 26 17:57:15 It's cool :) Dec 26 17:57:40 But yeah, the wireless thing is an issue. I remember that when I had an ac100. Dec 26 17:57:54 And I've also completely forgotten which special packages it wanted... Dec 26 17:58:42 Oh, right, crda Dec 26 17:58:55 how would I get wireless support enabled after using core? I read something about grabbing the wifitools and wpa_supplicant packages and installing them manually after transferring them onto the device, but are those the only packages? Dec 26 18:00:46 No, you probably also want wireless-crda, crda, and all the packages they depend on. Though, that depends on the kernel driver, not all of them need those. Dec 26 18:01:16 I think I'm way out of my depth here... Dec 26 18:01:45 it's a broadcom 4329 wifi+bluetooth chip Dec 26 18:40:01 hi Dec 26 18:41:38 does the arm version include ALL FOSS programs from the repos? if i got it correct only the non-free part like flash, skype and other stuff you dont want is missing Dec 26 18:44:17 and if i got it correct, i can download all source-packages (which will result in the *all.deb) and rebuild them on arm with dpkg-buildpackage, right? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 27 02:59:58 2013