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Jan 21 12:36:18 <ndec> hi ogra_ ! long time ;-) i was reading about the snappy thing for arm. are there instructions/wiki to create my own snappy images for a custom board? i haven't followed closely the recent 'core' changes, so i might not be familiar with how images are built now.
Jan 21 12:39:41 <ogra_> ndec, not yet, i'm workin on that
Jan 21 12:42:23 <ndec> ogra_: ok. good. do you know what 'format' or output we will be able to generate for a custom board? could i build a rootfs and use that only?
Jan 21 12:42:44 <ogra_> no,  you cant modify the rootfs easily
Jan 21 12:43:06 <ogra_> you use the pre-created rootfs with your own kernel,dtb and modules dir
Jan 21 12:43:23 <ndec> i don't need to modify it, just want to be able to use it with my board.
Jan 21 12:43:28 <ogra_> right
Jan 21 12:43:35 <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/snappy/ninjasphere/README
Jan 21 12:44:28 <ndec> ah, nice. do these commands work from a container (systemd-nspwan) or chroot?
Jan 21 12:44:29 <ogra_> i'm working on a scriopt that allows ypou to easily hand over a kernel, dtb, modules dir and uEnv.txt to it which will then spit out a working device tarball that you can use with the process from the README
Jan 21 12:44:43 <ndec> well i don't even have uboot on my boards ;-0
Jan 21 12:46:41 <ogra_> oh, then it wont work
Jan 21 12:46:58 <ogra_> we dont have support for other bootloaders yet
Jan 21 12:47:04 <ogra_> only grub and u-boot
Jan 21 12:47:09 <ndec> what do you need from bootloader?
Jan 21 12:47:44 <ogra_> izt needs to be able to switch the root target back and forth, as well as the storage dir of the kernel and initrd
Jan 21 12:47:52 <ogra_> for the rollback functionality
Jan 21 12:48:00 <ogra_> (and upgrades etc etc)
Jan 21 12:48:07 <ndec> izt?
Jan 21 12:48:19 <ogra_> to achieve that it also needs to be able to touch a file and read from another file
Jan 21 12:48:23 <ogra_> *it
Jan 21 12:48:34 <ndec> ;)
Jan 21 12:51:30 <ndec> ogra_: can i at least 'get' the rootfs without making an image?
Jan 21 12:53:47 <ogra_> well
Jan 21 12:54:03 <ogra_> the whole magic to atually create an image lives inside ubuntu-device-flash
Jan 21 12:54:29 <ogra_> you can indeed pull the rootfs from systzem-image.ubuntu.com but that wont get you anywhere i fear
Jan 21 12:54:37 <ogra_> *system-image
Jan 21 12:55:55 <ogra_> ubuntu-device-flash essantially does all the snappy specific magic when merging rootfs and device tarball
Jan 21 12:56:25 <ogra_> like the dual partition layout, writable and readonly bits, bootloader setup etc
Jan 21 12:59:07 <ogra_> does your bootloader support something like uEnv.txt ?
Jan 21 12:59:43 <ogra_> (and setting/reading variables ... and touching or writing files)
Jan 21 13:05:52 <ndec> ogra_: ok. i will try to use the BBB image and see what i can do with it...
Jan 21 13:05:56 <ndec> thanks!
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