**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 27 02:59:56 2009 Oct 27 03:20:28 Good god Oct 27 03:40:41 rwhitby: ping Oct 27 04:11:01 xml..... Oct 27 04:11:06 must be themes Oct 27 04:13:05 egaudet: syn|ack Oct 27 04:16:18 rwhitby: whats new Oct 27 04:33:14 Stugots: your IRC nick for one thing ;-) Oct 27 04:43:34 rwhitby: ping one last time Oct 27 04:44:06 dBsooner: I'm here Oct 27 04:44:10 k Oct 27 04:44:12 pm'ing you Oct 27 05:10:17 back Oct 27 05:10:22 sorry about dropping off. Oct 27 05:10:30 THe convention center blocked IRC Oct 27 05:42:55 How was Palm's day, Rick_work? Oct 27 05:43:47 busy, long, interesting. Oct 27 05:43:55 Any goodies? Oct 27 05:43:58 I'm beat. Oct 27 05:44:01 I bet. Oct 27 05:44:08 hey, it is 12:45 you know. Oct 27 05:44:09 ;) Oct 27 05:44:13 Ben said that they are working on bringing webos up to webkit trunk. Oct 27 05:44:27 That would be awesome! Oct 27 05:57:45 you were at palm today? Oct 27 06:00:12 he is at the Sprint ADP. Oct 27 06:00:20 ah Oct 27 06:00:25 Which Palm gave their keynotes today. Oct 27 06:00:33 well, seminars I should say. Oct 27 06:00:43 I really wish I could have gone. Oct 27 06:00:54 rwhitby: you actually workin? Oct 27 06:09:52 Alright, I am off to bed. Oct 27 07:40:18 does "bringing webos up to webkit trunk" mean palm will give their graphics code(api)? Oct 27 07:43:02 i think that means updating the version of webkit that webos is running on up to the latest version Oct 27 07:44:20 right Oct 27 07:47:29 and does that mean proper canvas? Oct 27 07:47:49 idk Oct 27 07:48:17 one would hope. Oct 27 07:48:27 i'm considering a commando raid on Customs. Oct 27 07:48:35 they have my Pre, dammit. Oct 27 07:56:19 lol Oct 27 07:57:19 this is no lol'ing matter, oil Oct 27 07:57:27 .....lol Oct 27 07:57:41 it does suck Oct 27 07:58:10 * freakout nods. Oct 27 07:58:16 oh well, another day or two. Oct 27 07:58:31 of customs playin' with your phone Oct 27 07:58:38 lol Oct 27 07:58:39 argh Oct 27 07:58:43 i didn't even think of that Oct 27 07:58:54 bastards are probably scratching my screen, oreo'ing my slider.... Oct 27 07:59:02 lol Oct 27 08:00:41 oh, wootoff Oct 27 08:02:44 hm? Oct 27 08:04:21 http://www.woot.com/ Oct 27 08:07:51 you want one? Oct 27 08:09:54 no Oct 27 08:10:05 woot usually sells one thing a day Oct 27 08:10:15 in a wootoff, they sell lots of crap Oct 27 08:15:18 mmmm. bacon salt? Oct 27 08:16:26 sounds awesome Oct 27 09:25:50 freakout: I'm so totally there with you man... I can offer my motorbike or car services! Oct 27 09:26:49 Cos seriously, you sooner you get yours... Oct 27 09:28:03 :D Oct 27 09:40:01 freakout: where is it?? Oct 27 09:53:50 in customs .au :/ Oct 27 10:13:26 ! Oct 27 10:34:33 freakout: maybe my Pre will get here before yours at this rate ... Oct 27 10:40:13 * rwhitby bbt Oct 27 10:52:41 ouch.. low blow Rod ;) Oct 27 11:35:12 Gentlemen Oct 27 12:48:05 rwhitby: that seems depressingly likely. 6-8 working days is what i got told on friday, so fingers crossed it'll be here by *this* friday. bah. Wish I'd specified a priority courier! Oct 27 12:52:58 where you located freakout Oct 27 12:53:14 sydney, LachAU. Riverstone to be exact. Oct 27 12:53:23 im in adelaide :) Oct 27 12:53:28 looking to import Oct 27 12:53:35 when the green light is switched Oct 27 12:53:43 ahhh, radeladie. Or A-Town as I hear it's called :p Oct 27 12:53:50 mmm Oct 27 12:53:58 is it optus compatible Oct 27 12:54:10 heh. yep, I can't believe I ordered it without knowing whether or not it's even going to work Oct 27 12:54:10 assuming the activation can be bypassed Oct 27 12:54:15 heh Oct 27 12:54:26 If data settings work, then activation should too. Oct 27 12:54:31 what was the total price Oct 27 12:54:34 to get it here Oct 27 12:54:48 481 EUR for the Pre and 30 EUR for the postage. Oct 27 12:55:09 *does not compute* Oct 27 12:55:11 in AU? Oct 27 12:55:17 800ish? Oct 27 12:55:17 that was cheap postage mind you - if i'd known it was gonna take this long i would have got my contact to send it the fastest method properly Oct 27 12:55:24 (481 Euros) + (30 Euros) = 829.19084 Australian dollars Oct 27 12:55:29 yeah Oct 27 12:55:34 * freakout nods Oct 27 12:55:47 lots of moolah :( Oct 27 12:55:52 Yup. Oct 27 12:55:58 But I paid more for my Treo 650 xD Oct 27 12:56:15 I've never owned a palm before..the pre appeals to me Oct 27 12:56:18 and the beauty of it is, it was all paid for with blogging payments Oct 27 12:56:37 which I'd been letting build up for awhile Oct 27 12:56:42 nice Oct 27 12:57:08 u planning on running via optus 3G Oct 27 12:57:11 Yep Oct 27 12:57:15 id be most interested to see how you go Oct 27 12:57:16 I'm on Optus myself now Oct 27 12:57:25 in theory, I can just drop my current SIM in and be up and running Oct 27 12:57:36 I have friends on the other majors, so I'll borrow their SIMs to test those too Oct 27 12:57:48 precentral has had a few sucess storys Oct 27 12:57:51 doing that Oct 27 12:57:56 In AU? Oct 27 12:57:56 with various SIMS Oct 27 12:57:58 nop Oct 27 12:58:02 internat Oct 27 12:58:03 yeah, i'd been looking Oct 27 12:58:21 I blog at PalmInfocenter. we're better than PreCentral :p Oct 27 12:58:27 ahh Oct 27 12:58:29 albeit not half as popular Oct 27 12:58:31 have not vistsed Oct 27 12:58:33 *googles* Oct 27 12:58:34 lol Oct 27 12:58:46 you and 99% of the internet mate Oct 27 12:59:14 No, PreCentral are great Oct 27 12:59:16 heh Oct 27 12:59:18 bookmarked Oct 27 12:59:34 is there a thread on palminfo about your progres..or a dairy Oct 27 12:59:37 diray even Oct 27 12:59:40 that i can check Oct 27 12:59:41 on fri Oct 27 12:59:53 dairy* Oct 27 12:59:58 there'll be a news story the day I get my Pre my friend :) Oct 27 13:00:03 :D Oct 27 13:00:31 I wrote to Palm's PR on Friday asking if they were aware of the SIM issues. No response. Oct 27 13:00:38 I'm gonna have to phone them tomorrow and be more annoying Oct 27 13:00:50 haha..however..you might get 1st lvl sup Oct 27 13:00:50 They really should speak up on this. Is it meant to be unlocked or not? Oct 27 13:00:52 who will be like Oct 27 13:00:55 "uh..............." Oct 27 13:00:59 heh Oct 27 13:01:09 the beauty of blogging is that I can legitimately call the "press' line Oct 27 13:01:15 yeah Oct 27 13:01:34 have done a few times. Sometimes I get answers worth printing. Othertimes not Oct 27 13:01:47 all dependent on who you get Oct 27 13:02:05 i work in a call centre Oct 27 13:02:06 i know all too well Oct 27 13:02:07 ;) Oct 27 13:02:11 Apparently O2 Germany are aware of the issue - my German friend who bought my Pre says they have an FAQ on it, and a fix is coming Oct 27 13:02:20 ah Oct 27 13:02:24 But I can't read German, and I want to hear from Palm themselves, 'cause they make the damn thing Oct 27 13:02:39 You work in a call centre? me too man. Sucks eh Oct 27 13:02:44 hehe Oct 27 13:02:45 well Oct 27 13:02:50 more of a helpdesk Oct 27 13:03:00 not as mundane Oct 27 13:03:04 I'm joining the Army myself. Enlisting Jan 19, just so I can get the fuck outta customer service ;) Oct 27 13:03:24 should be good to mix things up a bit Oct 27 13:03:53 yup Oct 27 13:03:54 anyways, i'm off to bed Oct 27 13:03:57 ditto Oct 27 13:03:59 night Oct 27 13:04:00 and gl Oct 27 13:04:02 with pre Oct 27 13:04:05 ill be reading in Oct 27 13:04:07 Night.... keep lurking here Oct 27 13:04:10 or PIC Oct 27 13:04:11 will do Oct 27 13:04:18 and I'll be posting my results soon (hopefully_ Oct 27 13:04:20 later Oct 27 14:10:14 ~seen rwhitby Oct 27 14:10:17 rwhitby is currently on #webos-internals (9h 7m 3s) #nslu2-linux (9h 7m 3s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 3h 35m 44s, last said: 'freakout: maybe my Pre will get here before yours at this rate ...'. Oct 27 14:10:34 rwhitby: you already asleep? Oct 27 14:11:54 egaudet: ping Oct 27 14:57:58 hey everyone... got a problem here.... Oct 27 15:00:57 when I try to install the messaging landscape patch from preware it errors on the last file saying ERROR: patch already installed? Oct 27 15:01:39 Is it already installed Oct 27 15:01:57 manually modified? Oct 27 15:02:49 it had been installed but was uninstalled. I had manually edited the file at one time, but have since replaced the files with originals Oct 27 15:03:08 the avatar patch installs and uninstalls fine Oct 27 15:03:21 how did you replace the originals? Oct 27 15:03:29 winscp Oct 27 15:03:55 got them from unpacking webosdoctor Oct 27 15:04:00 Elryon: sounds like you need to contact the maintainer of that patch Oct 27 15:04:16 Elryon: and you probably have the wrong version file now Oct 27 15:04:26 I can install it from webosqi Oct 27 15:04:27 cause i dont think there are any doctor images with 1.2.1 Oct 27 15:04:51 I also tried the files I saved from before editing Oct 27 15:05:10 Stugots there is 1.2.1 doctor Oct 27 15:05:11 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions Oct 27 15:05:21 Elryon, run md5sum on the file Oct 27 15:05:26 Elryon: can you apply the patch manually? Oct 27 15:05:30 I compared the messaging.css file before 1.2.0 and 1.2.1.. same file Oct 27 15:05:31 after removing all the messaging patches Oct 27 15:06:07 ok, hang on.. g/f using phone Oct 27 15:06:55 I can apply manually Oct 27 15:07:16 manually as in Oct 27 15:08:47 hang on... got phone back Oct 27 15:09:32 I was going to try and run the epr, buts its not there anyomre Oct 27 15:11:10 gack... tried to remove the sms tone per contact and it errored Oct 27 15:11:23 EPR is there Oct 27 15:11:26 just not under patches Oct 27 15:11:31 it's in list of everything Oct 27 15:11:50 looked under everything Oct 27 15:12:04 type in emer Oct 27 15:12:11 under list of everything Oct 27 15:12:40 tried, only get limited emergency button Oct 27 15:13:11 how do I run md5sum on the file? Oct 27 15:13:24 do you have linux access Oct 27 15:13:28 yep Oct 27 15:14:09 nm, found epr Oct 27 15:14:53 will the epr set everything back? Oct 27 15:15:36 will set all files that any patch with autopatch technology touched back to the state that it was in before the first patch that touched it was installed Oct 27 15:16:00 so if you had any manual modifications prior to installing a patch you will get your modified file back Oct 27 15:16:27 ok... so that's a no it probably wont help this... Oct 27 15:16:37 depends on what you did Oct 27 15:17:12 EPR and then Repair Utility should get you back to stock files Oct 27 15:17:20 if you had manual mods prior to patching Oct 27 15:17:31 I dont think I did, but I'm not sure... Oct 27 15:18:01 I've deleted and reinstalled stuff a few times, manually Oct 27 15:18:32 will have to try repair utility tonight.. gotta go to work.. :( Oct 27 15:19:15 try EPR first Oct 27 15:38:34 whats g00d Oct 27 17:02:23 egaudet_work: Did Elyron make it here? Oct 27 17:03:02 he was here Oct 27 17:03:07 and then he went to work Oct 27 17:06:22 ok Oct 27 17:06:29 He was trying to get me to help him in PM Oct 27 17:06:46 I told him to come here as I am at work myself and my response time can be very slow. Oct 27 17:40:23 I'm trying to get amarok 1.4 to wirelessly sync with my pre. I got everything working, except I can not actually write to the pre. Amarok can see the pre, and read files from it, but can't write to it, I followed this http://tinyurl.com/yjnty5m. Any ideas? Oct 27 17:42:31 is your filesystem writable or read only ? Oct 27 17:44:14 If I ssh into the pre, and do "sudo mkdir a" (in /media/internal/music) it works, but if I do "mkdir a" it says permission denied. Oct 27 17:49:39 egaudet_work: I got a reply from Jason about the camera filename patch. He's good to go. Oct 27 17:52:23 i think that you need to modify fstab so anyone can write to /media/internal cba123 Oct 27 17:53:08 en0x, the fstab of my phone? It isn't in my PC's fstab Oct 27 17:53:09 en0x: yeah Oct 27 17:53:32 cba123: yes, fstab on the phone Oct 27 17:54:01 help with patches Oct 27 17:54:19 dBsooner-work, Ok, I did "sudo vi /etc/fstab", what do I change it to, it's at 0 0 Oct 27 17:54:23 whatup sheldon? Oct 27 17:54:44 i have the latest version of preware and package mngr and patches are grayed out Oct 27 17:55:04 everything else is good? Oct 27 17:55:25 1.1.3 or 1.2.1? Oct 27 17:55:29 yep...everything is working good but patches Oct 27 17:55:40 1.2.1 Oct 27 17:56:01 oil ping Oct 27 17:56:25 sheldon: I will ask oil. I am not entirely sure what causes the feeds to gray out Oct 27 17:56:32 you have command line access? Oct 27 17:57:25 pkg mngr is version 9.10 and preware is 9.5 Oct 27 17:57:32 update feeds Oct 27 17:57:35 sheldon: Because I wonder if the feed is set wrong Oct 27 17:57:54 so update feeds and look at the feed in the settings Oct 27 17:58:10 cba123: what is the entire line for /media/internal in fstab? Oct 27 17:58:48 updated feeds and still same Oct 27 17:59:02 dBsooner-work, "/dev/mapper/store-media /media/internal vfat utf8,shortname=mixed,defaults 0 0" I just added ',defaults' Oct 27 17:59:03 i have command line access through qi Oct 27 17:59:24 sheldon go to preferences and tap feeds button Oct 27 18:00:15 done Oct 27 18:00:29 * Mousey restarts Luna Oct 27 18:00:40 cba123: after you added that line, do a sudo umount /media/internal Oct 27 18:00:44 then sudo mount /media/internal Oct 27 18:01:58 dBsooner-work, permission denied still. Oct 27 18:02:30 cba123: try adding umask=000 Oct 27 18:08:22 dBsooner-work, It copied the files, but I can't find them in the music app Oct 27 18:09:08 cba123: I don't know how amarok works. I was just helping you get the /media/internal writable. :D Oct 27 18:09:33 s/writeable/writable by everyone/ Oct 27 18:09:49 dBsooner-work, I mean on the pre. They are copied to /media/internal/music Oct 27 18:11:17 I don't know how Amarok works.. I wonder if it uses a database or XML file to store all music info and file location. Oct 27 18:12:07 oh Oct 27 18:12:09 i get you Oct 27 18:12:23 So the music player on the pre isn't showing them. Oct 27 18:12:27 Yes Oct 27 18:13:39 are they in formats playable by the Pre? Oct 27 18:14:29 dBsooner-work, Yeah, they are MP3, same library I copied from manually before, and all the MP3's I copied manually work. Oct 27 18:14:53 and all the files are in the same directory on the Pre? Oct 27 18:14:58 what is the exact path of one of the files not showing Oct 27 18:15:10 dBsooner-work, Yes Oct 27 18:15:37 /media/internal/music != /media/intenral/Music Oct 27 18:15:50 s/intenral/internal/ Oct 27 18:15:50 dBsooner-work meant: /media/internal/music != /media/internal/Music Oct 27 18:16:15 dBsooner-work, I know, I copied to /media/internal/music, lowercase Oct 27 18:18:21 egaudet_work: asked for the exact path of one not showing Oct 27 18:18:23 Possible to have .gif work in messaging? Oct 27 18:19:04 I just hate old crapy phones having animated media sent thru MMS and modern phone don't support it. Oct 27 18:55:49 dBsooner-work, I rebooted my phone and everything showed up, just so you know. Oct 27 19:00:52 yay Oct 27 19:08:03 rwhitby- im trying to run the meta doctor again on a friends phone, I have so many of the doctor files on my computer I forget which one is the meta doctor one, what will it name the file do you know? Oct 27 19:10:41 I have a bunch of my events showing up a day late on my calendars Oct 27 19:10:47 not all of them, just a few Oct 27 19:10:52 anyone see that before? Oct 27 19:11:05 they're fine on m.google.com and on the full www view Oct 27 19:12:45 i get that as well Oct 27 19:12:56 a google calendar i subscribe to is a day late Oct 27 19:13:08 unfortunately it's a birthday calendar - so it's kind of useless being a day late Oct 27 19:24:40 bpadalino|work: yeah please post a me too to my thread if you can then? http://forums.palm.com/palm/board/message?board.id=webossoftware&thread.id=10763 Oct 27 19:25:01 I have pretty much constant problems with this phone. I overlook it cuz I can tinker (linux); but I wonder what the regulars do Oct 27 19:39:27 i dont have any problems Oct 27 19:56:48 morning Oct 27 19:58:31 where are you Oct 27 19:58:51 Why do people keep asking that... Oct 27 19:59:02 cause you keep saying morning mid-day Oct 27 19:59:08 I live whereever you want me to baby :p Oct 27 20:00:28 hawaii Oct 27 20:00:44 couldn't you just ping my ip? Oct 27 20:01:19 easier to ask Oct 27 20:01:44 egaudet_work: on irc, whenever you enter the channel it's morning, and whenever you leave it's night Oct 27 20:01:48 it's a rule Oct 27 20:01:49 goes back to like 1975 Oct 27 20:01:59 Apparently Im the only one who knows that Oct 27 20:02:05 apparently *not* Oct 27 20:02:18 these kids just aren't old enough to know better Oct 27 20:02:32 im 17 lol Oct 27 20:02:36 :) Oct 27 20:02:40 you're old for a 17yo Oct 27 20:02:40 I wish I was a kid, just an irc nooob Oct 27 20:03:00 this just goes to show my assumptions were all wrong Oct 27 20:03:04 however, the rule remains the same Oct 27 20:03:11 when you enter you say morning and night when you leave. Oct 27 20:03:22 night Oct 27 20:03:26 :) Oct 27 20:03:30 morning Oct 27 20:03:34 now you got it Oct 27 20:03:42 :P Oct 27 20:04:18 Would've been funny if you spelled it wrong, but nope. Had to do it correctly :p Oct 27 20:30:18 Jeez, people want a patch for everything Oct 27 20:35:33 the Everything Patch Oct 27 20:35:35 that would be hawt Oct 27 20:35:54 ha Oct 27 20:36:04 Can anyone turn the nagger mod into a .ipk? All the work is on the wiki page Oct 27 20:41:19 I'd rather the nagger mod be turned into a mojo patch Oct 27 20:57:58 egaudet_work: or just an app Oct 27 21:00:47 nagger mod is such a dirty name Oct 27 21:00:57 lol Oct 27 21:01:46 org.webosinternals.patches.mojo-nagger Oct 27 21:01:49 ROFL Oct 27 21:01:51 what a name Oct 27 21:02:29 n_gger..... people who you find annoying Oct 27 21:02:35 ^^ great south park Oct 27 21:06:31 I guess an app would be OK, although would there be performance benefits to not having another background app waiting on a message which is already supplied by the existing messaging app Oct 27 21:07:09 No one wants to work on it though Oct 27 21:08:32 egaudet_work: yes which is why im not 100% happy about the direction greg's messaging stuff is going Oct 27 21:13:49 Its better than nothing Oct 27 21:32:49 I have an issue with getting variables echo'd... i.e. var="SomeText" echo $var on next line will print an empty line when the script is run... I think it is ash related. Oct 27 21:33:45 on the palm pre, through ssh, shell=/bin/sh... Oct 27 21:35:11 bbl Oct 27 21:35:54 not that I need them to print... it would just put my conscious at ease... Oct 27 21:43:18 been truly a pleasure... found the prob... was being lazy and echoing my scripts in... usin vi now. Oct 27 21:57:45 freakout: I have a feeling TODAY is the day for you, my good man :D Oct 27 21:58:21 lingfish: let's freaking hope! (although it's still only just been four working days today... they say 6-8....) Oct 27 21:58:23 but fingers crossed Oct 27 21:58:24 off to work Oct 27 21:58:39 heh Oct 27 22:23:12 morning Oct 27 22:25:17 heya Oct 27 22:33:11 hi Oct 27 22:39:46 Question about init.d scripts Oct 27 22:40:06 Are init.d run as root? (Linux in general) Oct 27 22:40:33 rwhitby: good morning, ETA on your Pre? Oct 27 22:41:08 dBsooner-work: yes, always... unless an su is done inside them Oct 27 22:41:18 odd Oct 27 22:41:37 I tried to unload a module in a shutdown script but it failed for some reason Oct 27 22:41:44 dBsooner-work: on Linux, init.d scripts are spawned by rc, which is spawned by init(1) Oct 27 22:42:24 my stop() function does "modprobe -r omnibook" Oct 27 22:44:00 I always tend to fully path things when I call them, though I doubt modprobe wasn't in that env's PATH Oct 27 22:44:06 Was there any error? Oct 27 22:44:57 I haven't looked Oct 27 22:45:11 all I know is it didn't unload the module because my laptop booted back up after 3 minutes of powered off Oct 27 22:45:16 omnibook module does this for some reason Oct 27 22:45:28 if I manually "modprobe -r omnibook" prior to shutdown Oct 27 22:45:32 The laptop will stay off Oct 27 22:45:50 I was on my way out the door to return to work, so i didn't have time to look at the logs. Oct 27 22:45:50 Could be wake on LAN, or wake on USB or similiar Oct 27 22:46:07 already have all those off in BIOS Oct 27 22:46:26 the only fix I have found anywhere on the interwebs is to unload the module prior to halt Oct 27 22:46:32 I'm no expert on ACPI, but that doesn't always do it Oct 27 22:47:00 I'd perhaps look for a verbose option to modprobe, and redirect to a log... including stderr Oct 27 22:47:05 so something like: Oct 27 22:47:20 /sbin/modprobe blah blah 2>&1 /root/blah.log Oct 27 22:47:30 greg_roll: dunno about ETA - the tracking number from Germany is not working. Oct 27 22:48:35 spell cincriment Oct 27 22:48:40 incrimenT* Oct 27 22:48:48 ~spell incirment Oct 27 22:48:50 possible spellings for incirment: incitement incident incipient interment ancient informant insurgent Oct 27 22:49:05 ~slap self Oct 27 22:49:06 * infobot slaps self, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! Oct 27 22:49:17 ~spell incrament Oct 27 22:49:30 possible spellings for incrament: increment increments inclement incriminate increment's incremental incremented Oct 27 22:49:36 ~botsnack Oct 27 22:49:36 aw, gee, dBsooner-work Oct 27 22:50:50 rwhitby: damn, expansys have 100 units in stock so im very close to ordering. As its GST free they are $880 delivered Oct 27 22:51:17 greg_roll: that's close to parity, and you do get the 1 year warranty Oct 27 22:51:17 greg_roll: just be wary of expensys .au ... apparently not all that healthy, or have shutdown or something Oct 27 22:51:17 howdy peoples :) Oct 27 22:51:24 and Singapore is handling their orders Oct 27 22:52:09 That's my main concern... as previously published, apparently we can send ours back to Germany if ordered from there... but I just want to know if anyone has officially been told they'll honour it Oct 27 22:56:22 lingfish: where did you see/read that? I've heard good things about them Oct 27 22:57:46 greg_roll: lemme find a URL Oct 27 22:58:13 lingfish: thanks :) Oct 27 22:58:29 http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1136869 Oct 27 22:58:38 Grain of salt, but yeah... Oct 27 22:58:42 "PRE_YYYY-MM-DD-hhmmss" or "IMG_YYYY-MM-DD-hhmmss" Oct 27 22:59:16 lingfish: thanks, ill have a read Oct 27 22:59:20 for the "camera-improved-filename-format" patch? Oct 27 23:00:56 greg_roll: would be good if you could fire off an enquiry to epansys about warranty too Oct 27 23:03:00 egaudet: ? Oct 27 23:03:23 lingifhs: i did but didnt get a response. I did get a responce to another email though Oct 27 23:03:33 i will call them, their phone people are very helpful Oct 27 23:07:44 greg_roll: nice, please let us know, perhaps /msg me as I'm keen to know how it'd work Oct 27 23:08:54 hi Oct 27 23:09:46