**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 19 02:59:57 2010 Feb 19 03:03:40 hm? Feb 19 03:04:22 gdial pro has been pulled because google is being retarded about their api Feb 19 03:04:39 ah Feb 19 03:04:50 again, something i would give up if they gave me 1gbps internet lol Feb 19 03:06:36 problem is I have now become dependent on my gv number Feb 19 03:06:56 xcomp, aren't there other gvoice apps? Feb 19 03:07:08 they all suck Feb 19 03:07:22 gdial was the only one that was worth a lick Feb 19 03:07:25 xcomp, hmm... wait, but the app still works no? Feb 19 03:07:38 i think so Feb 19 03:07:40 xcomp, or somehow pulled off your phone? or disabled? Feb 19 03:07:49 i haven't tried it since the announcement Feb 19 03:07:52 heh Feb 19 03:07:56 just came to complain? ;) Feb 19 03:08:19 i know the direct access number thing that used to work a couple of weeks ago doesn't anymore Feb 19 03:09:23 I think if I made an opengl tower defense game and released app catalog, i could quite my job :p Feb 19 03:09:28 -e Feb 19 03:09:58 yikes..... i tried doing update all in preware and it returns a 404 on gdial Feb 19 03:11:36 I just want access to voicemail Feb 19 03:36:56 hey anyone alive? Feb 19 03:37:33 just wondering if preware is 1.4 compatible Feb 19 03:38:45 jdfrosty, odd question Feb 19 03:38:59 In the past, preware has always worked within 24 hours of an OTA Feb 19 03:39:06 no i mean now Feb 19 03:39:33 jdfrosty, if you have it, you can simply try to use it, but no one who has it is going to be able to tell you anything about it Feb 19 03:40:08 i don't need info about 1.4 itself, just whether anyone has preware working on it as-is Feb 19 03:40:15 oh well, guess i'll just try it :) Feb 19 03:40:21 that's a reasonable idea. Feb 19 03:41:58 bah codesourcery and their bandwidth throttling Feb 19 03:48:04 are you getting the widk? Feb 19 03:48:11 again, heh Feb 19 03:48:13 i couldn't get it working on ubuntu Feb 19 03:48:23 jdfrosty, define couldn't get it working? Feb 19 03:49:31 $ sb2 -M /srv/preware/cross-compile/staging/mapping-armv7 Feb 19 03:49:42 and that did... what? Feb 19 03:49:46 there is no such file and therefore sb2 doesn't start Feb 19 03:50:08 i can start it just fine without the mapping Feb 19 03:50:18 PATH=/srv/preware/cross-compile/toolchain/arm-2007q3/bin:${PATH} sb2-init -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm armv7 arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc Feb 19 03:50:32 did it Feb 19 03:50:59 i did a search for "mapping" in the /srv/preware/cross-compile directory and got zero results Feb 19 03:51:21 then you didn't set something up Feb 19 03:52:23 yea i was tired. i'll have to reverse it and try again sometime Feb 19 03:54:16 zero available packages... hehe worth a shot Feb 19 03:56:44 rwhitby: you around? Feb 19 03:57:10 yep Feb 19 03:57:31 rwhitby: I reinstalled that googe latitude patch just now. I'm trying to find that file you wanted to look at but I can't recall where you said it's lcoated Feb 19 03:58:05 WillJitsu: neither do I Feb 19 03:58:17 .webosinternals.patches.packages or something Feb 19 03:58:21 egaudet will know Feb 19 03:59:03 rwhitby: do you remember what we were talking about? Preware was removing it from Preware when I uninstalled, but it wasn't actually undoing the patch. Feb 19 04:00:17 howdy rwhitby Feb 19 04:01:17 WillJitsu: ah, the prerm Feb 19 04:01:31 rwhitby: yeah, what directory is that file located in? Feb 19 04:01:50 WillJitsu: unfortunately, since you've just installed it, it will be using aupt-3 now, so the file's no good to me Feb 19 04:01:58 oh ok Feb 19 04:02:01 WillJitsu: but you should be able to uninstall it now Feb 19 04:02:13 alright I installed it via webosqi, so lemme see if Preware will remove it properly Feb 19 04:02:15 jacques_pre: hi Feb 19 04:02:59 in LA now, still on plane Feb 19 04:04:34 jacques_pre: 66Kg of boxes at the hotel tomorrow Feb 19 04:05:13 dayum Feb 19 04:05:18 you guys make me wish i was there Feb 19 04:05:23 cool Feb 19 04:05:28 * zsoc ponders the next flight outta town Feb 19 04:08:11 rwhitby: it removed properly that time. thanks Feb 19 04:08:27 WillJitsu: excellent, so all is resolved? Feb 19 04:09:37 rwhitby: yep Feb 19 04:18:07 does it require a patch to be able to set ringtones per contact? Feb 19 04:18:49 nvm I found it Feb 19 04:18:49 dur Feb 19 04:24:37 woohoo... work time... Feb 19 04:24:49 I shoulda e-mail myself my code for the Upstart GUI Feb 19 04:24:59 then I coulda worked on it here... Feb 19 04:27:46 cryptk|work: or put it in a repo on git.webos-internals.org ... Feb 19 04:28:02 that is true too... Feb 19 04:28:28 I didn't want to put it in the repo yet because it basically has the look (very little work) with no actual functionality yet Feb 19 04:28:45 if you were to look at it right now you would just scratch your head and say WTF!?! Feb 19 04:29:08 but once I get time to work on it a little more it will be going in there... probably this weekend Feb 19 04:29:24 wish I could be there too, maybe a future one Feb 19 04:29:26 once I get it to at least show a list of upstart services Feb 19 04:30:11 tried to swing it, just bad life related timing Feb 19 04:30:23 cryptk|work, you don't put things in the repo to impress other developers Feb 19 04:30:29 destinal-wirc: you talking about SCALE? Feb 19 04:30:40 yup Feb 19 04:30:49 zsoc: I know, but there really isn't much Feb 19 04:31:09 little more than some modified CSS and some hacked up JsTop, lol Feb 19 04:31:19 hehe well it doesn't hurt :> Feb 19 04:31:41 so at first glance it seems like it is a full app, but then you realize that it is still mostly JsTop (and a broken JsTop at that, lol) Feb 19 04:32:14 can I request a quick moment of silence for gDialPro... Feb 19 04:32:23 lol Feb 19 04:32:30 RIP my favorite app... Feb 19 04:32:38 why can't gDialPro continue as homebrew? Feb 19 04:33:20 there is some kind of problem with the current google API's that would require a server side solution Feb 19 04:33:32 I'm planning on fixing it with service or plugin Feb 19 04:33:39 I don't know what the problem is... and it could probably be resolved with a service Feb 19 04:33:43 exactly Feb 19 04:34:11 destinal-wirc: have you gotten the code from him or are you just going to work with what is in the precentral feed? Feb 19 04:35:25 with 1.2.9. if I can get it going maybe can convince him to open source,or I'll do a new client for the servic Feb 19 04:38:13 I really want a good gvoice client Feb 19 04:39:53 hopefully he'll open source it, no sense quitting without giving others a good chance to continue Feb 19 04:40:59 I don't think he is so much quitting as much as placing it on hold until he is able to do what he needs (I.E. some future WebOS version) Feb 19 04:42:34 rwhitby, someone broke the widk: make: *** ../../packages/alsa-lib: No such file or directory. Stop. Feb 19 04:42:56 zsoc: yep Feb 19 04:43:06 rwhitby, what is depending on that anyway? Feb 19 04:43:11 find the package that depends on it, and move it to nonworking Feb 19 04:44:12 libsndfile Feb 19 04:44:13 will do Feb 19 04:44:41 * cryptk|work thinks rwhitby broke it... Feb 19 04:45:02 rwhitby, o, bad news... i uh... lost my rsa key Feb 19 04:45:26 how do you 'lose' an RSA key? Feb 19 04:45:31 suuuuure.. Feb 19 04:45:33 zsoc: lost as in someone else may have it, or lost as in deleted. Feb 19 04:46:07 rwhitby, i backed up a copy before repartition, turns out my copy is corrupt Feb 19 04:46:21 make a new one? Feb 19 04:47:38 rwhitby, 2048 is ok right? Feb 19 04:47:43 yep Feb 19 04:48:27 * zsoc loves randomart images Feb 19 04:49:33 yay got preware working :) Feb 19 04:49:58 lol updating the feeds helped... Feb 19 04:50:03 * cryptk|work loves the 'security' randomart images are supposed to provide Feb 19 04:50:04 heh Feb 19 04:50:40 any chance the folder for patches could be un-forbidden? :-p Feb 19 04:50:54 nope Feb 19 04:50:56 jdfrosty, no Feb 19 04:51:00 what do you mean the folder for patches? Feb 19 04:51:03 heh didn't think so Feb 19 04:51:07 nope Feb 19 04:51:13 /media/cryptofs? Feb 19 04:51:25 jdfrosty: but if you're cluey you can create your own local feed Feb 19 04:51:39 oh, nvm, I get it now, lol Feb 19 04:52:27 rwhitby: when the upstart manager is used to start and stop services it just takes the IP of the service right? Feb 19 04:52:46 the name of the file in /etc/event.d Feb 19 04:52:50 yeah Feb 19 04:53:02 haha, so in theory we could launch the SDL apps with it, lol Feb 19 04:53:08 yep Feb 19 04:53:49 not really a theory Feb 19 04:54:10 well... in practice it could Feb 19 04:54:14 happy now... Feb 19 04:54:51 I jsut meant in theory becuause it would be pointless to do so when you could just use the app icon in launcher as a faster/better way Feb 19 04:58:31 I was thinking of highlighting the 'dangerous' services in red or something... Feb 19 04:58:57 I would have to hardcode in though which services are 'dangerous' Feb 19 04:59:35 and I was thinking of calling pretty much and stock service 'dangerous' and especially LunaSysMgr Feb 19 05:00:19 cryptk|work: perhaps a preference to show system services or not Feb 19 05:00:33 rwhitby: exactly Feb 19 05:00:43 then highlight them in red if they are shown Feb 19 05:00:55 I am still debating wether or not to allor stopping the Luna Service Feb 19 05:01:07 if i do allow it, then it will come with a gigantic warning Feb 19 05:01:39 I am talking screen flashing red, phone vibrating warning, lol Feb 19 05:02:16 hm... so i don't have git-mv, but git-core is installed. wtf. Feb 19 05:02:57 I have been meaning to ask, why did you guys go with git instead of svn? Feb 19 05:03:11 because it's more awesomer? Feb 19 05:03:46 just seems that I see SVN more oftin than git Feb 19 05:04:11 svn has a single point of failure, the central server. Anyone who has our git repos can just serve them up and continue if our server dies. Feb 19 05:04:34 rwhitby: true Feb 19 05:05:03 so if git.webos-internals.org is ever offline for hours, and people complain, I just say "meh". Feb 19 05:08:16 lol Feb 19 05:09:27 anyone know why i might be missing git-mv? Feb 19 05:10:35 because it thinks you smell funny? Feb 19 05:10:43 oh, git mv does the same thing as git-mv lol Feb 19 05:10:44 go figure Feb 19 05:10:46 have you tried reinstalling git-core? Feb 19 05:16:07 dtzWill: hola Feb 19 05:17:56 dtzWill_, you're late D: Feb 19 05:21:07 zsoc: if you make a service similar to the upstart service for kernel modules I will adapt my GUI to it for you once it is done Feb 19 05:21:33 kkk Feb 19 05:22:21 hmm.. what would such a gui be needed for? Feb 19 05:22:49 destinal, for awesome, clearly Feb 19 05:23:03 rwhitby, i've had three testers, i'm going to push gsmwav to packages/ Feb 19 05:23:08 er, apps/ Feb 19 05:23:18 zsoc: ok Feb 19 05:23:26 cryptk|work: our very first use of an upstart service was to start games Feb 19 05:23:37 (before we understood type: game in appinfo.json) Feb 19 05:27:24 destinal: I know Feb 19 05:27:43 oh, well with "haha, so in theory we could launch the SDL apps with it, lol" Feb 19 05:27:53 zsoc: I was curious as to why you would want to mess with kernel modules Feb 19 05:28:03 yeah, I clarified what i meant by in theory Feb 19 05:28:17 I was jsut saying that because it is obviously not the best way to do it Feb 19 05:28:40 cryptk|work: oh you meant with the gui Feb 19 05:28:46 yeah Feb 19 05:29:05 why start the GUI to start the SDL app when you can just click the icon to start the SDL app Feb 19 05:29:21 I think there would be some benefit in setting up custom scripts in upstart and firing them off this way though Feb 19 05:29:32 easier than terminal Feb 19 05:29:44 yep Feb 19 05:29:59 for testing custom services and whatnot it would be useful Feb 19 05:30:48 I think i will release it on the official app catalog once PDK is out and charge eleventy billion dollars... Feb 19 05:31:05 make a fortune and pay for the internals server for life, lol Feb 19 05:31:10 does anyone have an email address for the gdial person? Feb 19 05:32:16 destinal: is gdial going to be removed from the preware feed? the ipk has been deleted but it still exists in the feed Feb 19 05:32:21 it's breaking my upgrade Feb 19 05:32:22 cryptk|work: and I'll make one and charge ten billion nine hundred nine hundred ninety nine million, nine hundred ninety nine thousand, nine hundred ninety nine dollars and edge you out Feb 19 05:34:17 destinal: damn you... Feb 19 05:34:18 xcomp: I think the Packages data gets pulled from the precentral app gallery and it looks like the app still exists there. not sure if it's still downloadable there or not Feb 19 05:34:26 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Eleventy+Billion Feb 19 05:34:37 xcomp: it should disappear within 15 minutes of PreCentral's feed saying it is no longer there. Feb 19 05:35:43 i wish he wouldn't delete it though, but it is understandable ... hopefully he gets google's attention and they do something to help Feb 19 05:35:59 that or palms attention Feb 19 05:36:03 I think that is more likely Feb 19 05:36:04 losing gdial would really suck Feb 19 05:36:21 xcomp: it does... I already had to switch to Visual Voicemail Feb 19 05:36:33 and i was totally willing to pay a buck a month for gDial Feb 19 05:36:43 hell, I would pay 2 bucks a month for preware Feb 19 05:36:46 cryptk|work: i actually signed up Feb 19 05:36:58 xcomp: I was going to do it tonight at work Feb 19 05:37:14 i was one of those who was surprised to open my email today and find a message saying I had been refunded my money Feb 19 05:37:16 Visual Voicemail still works at least Feb 19 05:37:35 don't need visual voicemail -- I get voicemail delivered to email Feb 19 05:37:47 the dialing and sms is what I need Feb 19 05:37:47 but the google voice web interface just isn't as snappy Feb 19 05:37:57 agreed on the SMS Feb 19 05:38:23 I use my google voice numebr as my "Home" number since it has a local area code and my cell doesn't Feb 19 05:38:41 so I like to be able to call people back on the same number they called me on, lol Feb 19 05:39:06 also freaks people out when they call and get my voicemail, I have alot of custom ones Feb 19 05:39:33 my buddy Pat called me and his is "F U Pat... leave a message" he thought for weeks I had that as my voicemail for everyone... Feb 19 05:41:11 my favorite feature is the black hole voicemail message for unwanted callers Feb 19 05:41:45 the one where they think it's ringing and they're leaving a message but nothing happens Feb 19 05:43:18 later Feb 19 05:50:59 xcomp: agreed Feb 19 06:11:42 there's a pair of giant palm billboards right across the street from my room window Feb 19 06:12:03 coincidence? I think so. Feb 19 06:12:10 I experinced an odd bug today Feb 19 06:12:22 my phone said 88% battery, then asecond later reported 0% battery Feb 19 06:12:29 but kept running Feb 19 06:12:47 quick luna restart made the battery report accurately again Feb 19 06:13:05 but that was bizarre Feb 19 06:13:33 last night, second time my pre became nonresponsive - had to pull battery and fsboot Feb 19 06:55:06 * oil just woke up from 4 hour "nap" Feb 19 06:57:00 food coma? Feb 19 06:58:00 didn't eay Feb 19 06:58:05 eat* Feb 19 06:58:25 lose Feb 19 06:58:53 I'm watching olympics hockey game Feb 19 07:18:58 rwhitby? Feb 19 07:19:49 is bsdiff part of the nslug2 build? Feb 19 07:37:55 hello all Feb 19 07:38:03 havent been on here in a while Feb 19 07:38:22 ive exhausted all recources and need some help Feb 19 07:40:53 i started experiencing unresponsive touch screen of death a week ago..that ended up turning into being stuck at the palm logo which glows, freezes and starts back to no glow and so on..ive opened up port to listen with the novaproxy.py script..can get in via putty but i need to copy files off and cant access via winscp or puttys sftp or scp clients via usb..any ideas? Feb 19 07:45:46 are the files outside of media/internal? Feb 19 07:45:59 no Feb 19 07:46:05 i just need pics from 100PALM Feb 19 07:46:29 have you tried orange+sym+u? Feb 19 07:46:49 that seems to work even if the phone is in the middle of a boot Feb 19 07:47:08 no response..what does that do btw Feb 19 07:47:26 puts your phone in USB mode Feb 19 07:47:52 as in USB drive mode Feb 19 07:48:56 great niw its back to low battery screen..ill try it when it gets back to the palm logo Feb 19 07:49:07 it's something Palm added for people whose screen becomes unresponsive and needs to get stuff off media interal Feb 19 07:49:10 ive gotten it into usb mode trying webos docgtor Feb 19 07:49:27 not the white usb mode Feb 19 07:50:01 what should the screen look like Feb 19 07:50:54 ill brb, ill check your response when i get back and hopefully itl be back at the logo Feb 19 07:50:54 like when you hook your pre to a computer and hit USB drive button in the menu that asks media sync, just charge or USB drive Feb 19 09:36:45 once again the awesomeness of jquery comes through. Feb 19 09:37:15 i was able to find a jquery plugin that does oembed and with a couple lines of now have video embedding working perfectly. Feb 19 10:48:43 heya Feb 19 12:27:11 nned some help pls- how do i reinstall novacom on mac Feb 19 12:31:27 I use the one that comes with the SDK Feb 19 12:35:43 yeah i need to install it manually anyone got the command Feb 19 12:39:17 i think i just did it through terminal lets see Feb 19 12:41:02 I packed up my laptop already, otherwise I would check. Its something in /opt/ where the binaries end up Feb 19 12:53:53 i just need to know how to manually install novacom, anyone?? Feb 19 12:57:44 i think ive done it, terminal says installing package...should it tell me when its done cos after that nothing came up Feb 19 13:00:14 nope, ipkg failed Feb 19 13:13:16 iSmite: you could try to extract the .deb Feb 19 13:13:34 and manually satisfy its dependencies Feb 19 13:48:24 i recently purchased a pre from someone who had changed the esn on this phone. i didnt know if i could revert it back to the original esn? if you know any information regarding such please /msg me Feb 19 13:50:12 hi Feb 19 13:50:31 since yesterday i have a strange problem with my palm Feb 19 13:51:53 i can't install or update any apps, and the prroblem apear by the app catalogue, preware and terminal Feb 19 13:52:14 do you know this bug or problem? can someone help me? Feb 19 14:05:54 I am probably not in the correct channel - I would like to change the lock screen on the PalmPre to display emergency contact information; such as a med-alert number; where can I find information on that? Feb 19 14:25:47 I'd recommend booting installer image as a second option to paz00kzie but he's gonr Feb 19 14:31:17 destinal-wirc am not sure if that was for me... I had considered just making a new png file; and using novaterm to upload it to the palm Feb 19 14:31:28 PackratDragon: it's just html and cas, yoi Feb 19 14:31:56 html and cas, yoi? Feb 19 14:32:05 css not cas Feb 19 14:32:08 I know html, I am familiar with css... Feb 19 14:32:14 Ok... :D Feb 19 14:32:16 aggressive spellcheck Feb 19 14:33:33 if you know linux you could novaterm in and look around Feb 19 14:33:37 so then if it just css and htm for the lock screen (where you have to enter your password to unlock the pre) I could just make a simple webpage to show my picture, and display the emergency contact info Feb 19 14:34:19 sure. you could make buttons to dial them too Feb 19 14:34:46 I know linux :) am just finishing up my network and systems admin & Web & Database technologies Associates at the local community college Feb 19 14:35:28 sounds like you'll have a platform you can really easily customizee Feb 19 14:36:14 the phone programs /apps are mojo which are javascript Feb 19 14:38:03 I have found that the linux shell is really limited.. but that is to be expected.... I am use to ubuntu Feb 19 14:39:37 you can install bash and any tools you like.. see optware and ipkg-opt Feb 19 14:41:01 I will have to look into that... It will be a project for the spring break; I really *should* be working on my final PHP/MYSQL project and not playing with my phone. Project is due in about 2 weaks Feb 19 14:41:06 err weeks Feb 19 14:44:26 yeah I hear you. I think exploring a phone os based on web technologies should be worth extra credit, lol Feb 19 14:44:44 hehe Feb 19 14:45:59 PackratDragon: you can even install apt-get, gcc, and friends in a Debian chroot. Though unless you need that this is going overboard. Feb 19 14:46:08 and re PHP, I'm sorry... Feb 19 14:47:49 It isn't going overboard until you fry the phone; then if you are smart; you have the protection plan, they send you a new one, and you don't do that again. :D Feb 19 14:48:09 PackratDragon: protection plan has a $100 deductable. Feb 19 14:48:16 i.e. it'll cost you $100 Feb 19 14:48:35 at least, that's Sprint's. Verizon probably is similar though. Feb 19 14:49:07 you shouldn 't fry your phone though. Feb 19 14:49:30 just don't do "rm -rf" at the root prompt. :) Feb 19 14:50:15 heh, webOS doctor will save you if you do Feb 19 14:54:30 is anybody here familiar with the side effects of "transplanting" PalmDatabase.db3 from one pre to another? Feb 19 14:55:08 my Pre's touchscreen is dying and I don't want to lose all my sms and call history... but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble Feb 19 14:55:19 I'm having a problem with my Palm Pre, if I enter an event in the Google calendar, which is my default, it disappears after I enter it. The only one that works is my Palm profile. Feb 19 14:58:10 EdLin: weird, I'd try remove and readd gmail acct Feb 19 14:58:30 destinal-wirc: wouldn't that remove my email? Feb 19 14:59:12 EdLin: not if you add it back Feb 19 14:59:28 what about all of my contact-link setttings? Feb 19 15:00:09 dunno, I use gmail for all contact data Feb 19 15:00:32 I do too, but sometimes I need to link a Yahoo or Facebook account to the gmail contacts manually. Feb 19 15:00:49 it would work for me Feb 19 15:00:54 k Feb 19 15:01:10 I'll see, I hope it won't mess things up if I do it. Feb 19 15:01:45 well you might backup stuff in case I guess Feb 19 15:02:04 back up? Feb 19 15:03:59 well there's no easy tool but you could back up the db files by hand. oh one more thing Feb 19 15:04:16 what version webOS? Feb 19 15:04:34 1.3.5.1 Feb 19 15:04:50 sounds like you're getting close to my question now :) Feb 19 15:05:27 ah the 1351 should fix invisible 2010 Cal items Feb 19 15:05:28 destinal-wirc: is that OK? Feb 19 15:05:36 i recently purchased a pre from someone who had changed the esn on this phone. i didnt know if i could revert it back to the original esn? if you know any information regarding such please /msg me Feb 19 15:06:31 wow I didn't know you could change that Feb 19 15:07:05 sounds plus on Sprint time Feb 19 15:07:27 when is 1.4 webOS being released Feb 19 15:07:57 Guinness`: re the db files I've never tried it Feb 19 15:08:00 PackratDragon: when it's ready Feb 19 15:08:29 :p I had heard the 15th of Febuary; Feb 19 15:08:47 but it hasn't been released yet Feb 19 15:08:50 what you heard doesn't really affect reality Feb 19 15:10:08 Is anyone familiar with repairing the esn/meid of a pre? Feb 19 15:10:23 rumors even if accurate can refer to outdated info from palm for instance Feb 19 15:10:30 I realize that; just wasn't sure if there was an update Feb 19 15:10:45 destinal-wirc: ok, but are there multiple db files to be backed up for complete data? Feb 19 15:11:48 Guinness`: I'd search all dbs and copy them Feb 19 15:12:46 does internalz even *have* a search feature? ..or do you mean manual? Feb 19 15:13:09 ah I use shell Feb 19 15:13:26 ok Feb 19 15:13:46 PackratDragon: the CEO announced that it was planned for February. It's still February. It will be for another week plus. There would be no need for an 'update' until after then. Feb 19 15:18:07 it would be ok if put off to march Feb 19 15:22:03 * PackratDragon shrugs Feb 19 15:23:19 better a solid release than a quick one imo Feb 19 15:23:54 I am not arguing that at all. Feb 19 15:24:33 and I am not upset that it isn;t released yet... was just curious if anyone had heard anything.. Feb 19 15:25:23 I suspect changes we're bigger than normal, thus had more issues to work through Feb 19 15:26:39 s/we're/were/ Feb 19 15:26:40 destinal-wirc meant: I suspect changes were bigger than normal, thus had more issues to work through Feb 19 15:27:23 morning Feb 19 15:28:16 Rick_work: morning Feb 19 15:28:58 any idea why full erase on pre doesn't remove my palm profile? Feb 19 15:29:23 if you want to do THAT you have to doctor after full erase. Feb 19 15:29:29 it's a two stage process. Feb 19 15:29:57 oh i thought that with full erase it can do it or with ##RNA# or something like that Feb 19 15:31:12 anyway thanks Feb 19 15:31:19 because I have to return my old pre to palm Feb 19 15:31:41 so i wondered how i can get rid of my palm profile from the phone... now it looks like i have to webos doctor it Feb 19 15:46:23 Rick_work, one more question when I get my new palm pre from palm do I have to call sprint to activate it or no? how it will know that it's my phone? Feb 19 15:54:24 sitting here waiting at the drug test place... Feb 19 15:57:04 Palm is swapping it direct, not sprint? Feb 19 15:57:22 if so, yes, you will have to call or stop in at a sprint store. Feb 19 16:07:34 once I get back home I am getting back to work on the upstart manager Feb 19 16:18:54 Rick_work, yes palm is swapping the phones Feb 19 16:18:57 advance exchange Feb 19 16:21:15 can someone tell me when egaudet is on Feb 19 16:41:41 Rick_work, oh i found this: http://www4.sprint.com/WLSApp/esnswap/do/Welcome;jsessionid=HGbJYh3RWSpNqzQKGvBsp86C42M6rSPKx9XnTjrG1j1Bkh2Fggv0!616992327 looks like I can swap my phone online ;) Feb 19 16:43:25 coolness Feb 19 16:43:38 ~seen egaudet Feb 19 16:43:39 egaudet is currently on #webos-internals (1d 9h 46m 9s). Has said a total of 24 messages. Is idling for 14h 38m 44s, last said: 'is there a way to do that?'. Feb 19 16:48:11 would someone be so kind as to walk me through the removal of a single borked patch without running EPR? Tis the Hide App Vendors patch. Seems to not play well with the AUPT updates. Feb 19 16:51:27 Ron001: http://tinyurl.com/yb63vvz Feb 19 16:52:25 nt4cats: thank you Feb 19 16:53:39 Ron001: if you're going to run patches (or other webos-internals stuff) I highly recommend you follow their twitter feed Feb 19 16:53:57 They don't publish much, but when they do it is helpful (e.g. that's where I got the link I just sent you). Feb 19 16:54:39 I don't do much with twitter other than that -- but I have "Twee Free" on my Pre just so that I can follow @webosinternals Feb 19 16:58:28 You should follow me, too (@nt4cats). I tweet all of my useful insights. Of course, what that really means, is that when I signed up for twitter I tweeted "I guess I have a twitter account now" and haven't tweeted since. Feb 19 17:06:11 test Feb 19 17:06:31 pumpa1: hi Feb 19 17:06:37 hmm how come it lets me talk without having a registerd nick in here if i use wirc Feb 19 17:06:41 thts me Feb 19 17:06:43 en0x: you really don't want to post your session ID publically Feb 19 17:07:02 iSmite: #webos-internals doesn't require registration to speak Feb 19 17:07:05 destinal-work, i c&p it from forum Feb 19 17:07:14 it does on colloquy?? Feb 19 17:07:24 it says cannot send to channel unless i ident Feb 19 17:08:14 iSmite: we don't require registered nicks. what error does colloquy say exactly? Feb 19 17:08:34 cannot send to channel Feb 19 17:08:40 then a box pops up asking for my password Feb 19 17:08:44 are you sure #webos-internals and not #webos? Feb 19 17:08:51 yeah Feb 19 17:09:27 don't know, you're the only one with the issue. web clients and pidgin and irssi and others all can talk here without registration Feb 19 17:09:40 lol Feb 19 17:09:42 my luck then Feb 19 17:11:32 unregistered irssi talking Feb 19 17:13:20 iSmite: I know #webos still has unregistered nicks silenced. Feb 19 17:13:49 we used to a while back before freenode switched irc daemons and blocked the javascript spam plague Feb 19 17:13:54 ok Feb 19 17:44:14 hola Feb 19 18:19:44 Is anyone familiar with repairing the esn/meid of a pre? i recently purchased a pre from someone who had changed the esn on this phone. i didnt know if i could revert it back to the original esn? if you know any information regarding such please /msg me Feb 19 18:24:39 syntax-: wouldn't sprint be willing to help you if it's putting it back to original state? Feb 19 18:25:46 not sure if they do that? Feb 19 19:03:01 why does preware run so slow on the emulator... Feb 19 19:03:09 the downloading of the feeds is horrendously slow... Feb 19 19:03:45 ahh, because it wasn't downloading them... Feb 19 19:04:24 I thought the emulator could share your Internet connection? Feb 19 19:06:10 I was trying to follow the WebOS schools class, and it said to create a profile, which I couldn't do on the emu Feb 19 19:31:41 BoomerET: Sure you can Feb 19 19:31:56 BoomerET: just run First Use Feb 19 19:32:30